Oh but they do, you just need to sign up for their monthly service which is separate from the 3-4 different services you already pay for. And don't even think about sharing account info with friends or family, that is "stealing" and they could cancel your account!.. I mean they won't, because they want your money, but they can threaten you with cease and desist warnings.
*Edit to add: This is satire by the way, by pointing out the fact you need more and more service subscriptions just to access certain media is rediculous. Please don't take it as defense of weird streaming practices or even support of pirating.. it's just poking fun at the situation.
You pirate games because you have no money.
I pirate games because game devs losing a whole Russian region worth of revenue is supposed to help defeat Putin.
We are not the same.
We are not the same indeed.
But the saddest thing is when you do feel like paying, but you cannot. Even before the sanctions I tried to by a game for my German friends on steam, but couldn't because regional prices. Fuck it, I was ready to pay price of their region, but there is no such option in Steam.
Don’t buy g2a. It’s worse than piracy. To sum up, a lot of the keys on there are actually stolen via credit card, so the developer ends up paying the cost in stolen credit card fees. Piracy gains the dev no money. G2A’s stolen keys actually take money from the developer. https://youtu.be/twor6RYVtdQ
Speaking for me having to watch bundesliga (soccer) was and still is aggrevating.
Used to be friday games on eurosport, saturday games on sky and sunday games on dazn (and some other extra rule i cant remember)
Now its only sky and dazn i think. Still too much money
Edit: so i just stream it on some sketchy site.
I pirate content because im poor and most of the streaming services dont even provide where i live, besides netflix and prime, i dont think anyone else offers service in my country
People want to believe they’re not engaged in morally dubious behavior. I have done it too so I’m not being self righteous here.
I try to support my favorite niche content creators but I have very limited budget relative to my appetite for cool stuff. The end result is we get less content than we otherwise would because of piracy.
Not gonna shed a tear for Disney or HBO or Amazon Prime or whatever but it is objectively true that they make more of the content that makes money. I want more Wheel of Time and Game of Thrones and Witcher and JJK and blah blah blah, but I also don’t want to spend a lot of money. Pretty obvious conflict!
Why go to 5 different subscription services depending on what I want to see when I can go to 1 pirate location to watch it all? It's the convenience as much as the subscription costs at this point.
Not all I want to watch a shot at love with tila tequila its not on any streaming services, not available for digital download. So where can I legally watch it?
No idea, I'm not defending them btw. I'm saying they either force you into so many subscriptions you're paying for things now more than you ever paid for cable, or they deny access to things you want.
Take Nintendo for example, I want to play N64 games, well the normal emulator requires a paid Nintendo account so I can play SNES games, but wants you to pay additional to plays N64 games.. which I personally dislike
I know quite a few things I can't even get via a subscription. Literally no way to obtain a copy of several movies, TV shows, video games and music you can not legally purchase in any capacity anywhere in the world outside of piracy. In some instances, it's merely licensing issues confusing who can even legally sell the thing. But in many more, such as with Nintendo games, the company seems to just not be interested in making money off something people are literally begging to be able to pay for.
No, they don't. Some companies (Nintendo especially) hate their customers and if the *virtual* product gets a bit old it's practically gone forever unless you pirate it.
Nintendo is one of those companies I criticize here, you have to have a paid Nintendo account to play a random assortment of SNES games, and you have to upgrade to a "plus" service to play N64 games. Services on top of services.
“In general, we think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. For example, if a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the U.S. release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable. Most DRM solutions diminish the value of the product by either directly restricting a customers use or by creating uncertainty.”
Gabe Newell, ceo of valve
This quote is always dropped when piracy comes up and it’s still so true.
I‘ve now reached the point where I buy most movies on UHD or Blu Ray but still pirate them because the pirated copies are just superior to the legal ones in every way. Literally the only reason I pay for that stuff is because I want to support the creators, it’s more like a donation than a purchase.
Same goes for video games, DRM is the most ridiculous anti-consumer effort that exists. It’s absolutely and utterly useless in preventing piracy, costs millions and the only thing it really excels at is fucking over the poor people who actually pay for stuff.
I haven't bought a physical disc in probably ten years, but I also don't pirate anything. If you have the means to pay and you do so "to support the creators" you're only inconveniencing yourself. Digital library and on-demand streaming are simply better in quality and convenience
> Digital library and on-demand streaming are simply better in quality and convenience
That’s absolutely not the case. Netflix for example reduced the bitrate of 4K content in Europe over the pandemic. Generally most streaming media has extremely low Bitrate, especially compared to Blu-ray or UHD discs (the difference can easily be tenfold).
And it’s only convenient as long as you have a supported setup and the storefront you bought the content from is willing to provide you with it.
If you have an old receiver between your TV and set-top-box, you won’t be able to play Blu-ray’s or stream high quality (for most streaming services, that’s 720p and higher) at all because the HDCP chain is broken. Using the wrong browser? No content or 480p, if you’re lucky. Older device that’s generally not supported? No content. Warner decides a show you “bought“ should be written off? It just disappears from your library. On vacation in another country? Most content won’t be available.
Meanwhile, I can watch all my content on all my devices, thanks to Plex and Jellyfin even with the convenience you’d expect from a streaming service like Netflix. I can download and keep my movies for as long as I like, I can just throw them on a USB stick and take them to a friends house, or just stream them over the internet wherever I am. I can watch most movies weeks or even months before they release in my region (if they are released at all).
The thing that really grinds my gears about all this is that it’s futile. EVERY SINGLE new movie or tv show will be available to pirate just hours after its release in the highest quality the streaming service or disc offers, sometimes even before the official release. It may not be the most convenient way, but if you know what you’re doing, pirating a movie is just as fast if not even faster than buying it. And ironically, you “own“ that piece of media whereas you just lend it from a legal source, even if you “buy“ it there.
This was so damn accurate in Argentina at the time we couldn't buy our games with ARS (argentinian pesos) instead of dollars, which are extremely expensive down here, nowadays there's great discounts in steam from time to time that even a broke ass like me can buy to support small developers. As a matter of fact, my dad himself taught me how to do piracy as a kid because everything that could be pirated was (and still is in many cases) VERY expensive.
Another thing that someone else brought up in relation to this quote:
Some might say "Oh, people will pirate things so they won't have to spend money." Thing is, if people genuinely had no money to spend, then you shouldn't care if they pirate it because they wouldn't be giving you money either way. The people who DO have money WILL be happy to spend it if it meant the service they're getting was worth it which, as the quote shows, often isn't.
basically, which isn't that bad, they even implemented online play for the multiplayer games. The only problem is that the server connection is pretty crappy. I'm just hoping for Game Boy to Game Boy Advance games to be implemented.
Fun fact, GBA emulators are extremely user friendly and easy to pick up! With most games, you simply download something like MyBoyFree or JohnGBALite (free versions but still outclass not playing the game, they have a built in all-in-one cheat engine coupled with a speed up function in the free versions with unlimited access) and download the ROM file off of a website (The games themselves are not built in but downloading ROM files is simple)
If you want me to go in more detail about the beauty of ROMs I'd be happy to!
(P.S. this is completely legal and most top search results like emulatorgames.net are safe, just don't click the popups. The paid versions just give convenience like removing sidebar ads, letting you enter cheat codes with infinite length instead of segments, and faster speedups so don't worry about only getting half a game or something. These games are available in the app store too)
Its always 3 steps forward and 2 steps back with Nintendo and playing their older games.
While at the same time getting more and more hostile with emulation.
It's not true, I don't pirate videogames because it's really easy to buy and download legally, but films and series are a nightmare sometimes
There would still be some pirates, but less
Can’t download and the quality is shit. Source: I know about xmanager. And its not really illegal. Just against the TOS
And premium account generators are trash. I’d rather not listen to music at all than use a hacked premium account. The experience is horrible.
I meant this in the sense that "Not everyone would continue to pirate it" and me not continuing is a proof of that statement.
His statement, in the other hand, meant "It would change nothing in the number of piracy" which is false, as for example, music piracy declined a lot following the creation of applications like Spotify.
Source : Wikipedia page of music piracy for example
I'd add that a statement without proof can be refuted without proof, so an anecdotical evidence is actually enough to disprove its comment.
>I don't pirate videogames because it's really easy to buy and download legally
You do not speak for everyone.
My sister pirates video games even when she has the money for them, so yeah.
Because some people try to act morally.
For some people, it is fair to remunerate people or corporations for their work. It's also a way, at your personal level, to contribute to the continuation of something you like or might like.
But if the remuneration or mean of remuneration expected from you is unfair on difficult to use, it becomes harder to fullfil this idea. I just couldn't legitimately pay 200$ to buy DVD for a series. (Extreme example but still).
If you really see the world only through the idea : "Why would I do X if Y is more profitable to me ?", you are honestly not a person I would like to have in my life, without offense.
>If you really see the world only through the idea : "Why would I do X if Y is more profitable to me ?", you are honestly not a person I would like to have in my life, ~~without offense.~~ full offence
FTFY you coward :P
But there would be a lot less of them. I don't pirate modern Nintendo Swith games, I buy them. I however do pirate gba and gamecube games because there isn't really any other way to play them besides succumbing to scalpers
Yeah there's always going to be people who would. But it's not about all piracy, it's about the overwhelming majority of it. And the overwhelming majority of people wouldn't pirate if there was a more convenient alternative available.
For example. Whenever I look for a new show to watch I always check if it's on Netflix, which I am subscribed to. Because it's much nicer to do it through there than some crusty website. But I'm also not going to have more than one streaming service subscription because that will Quick get ridiculously expensive and annoying. And w
switching between services constantly would be a massive hassle compared to just going to one crusty website for all my stuff.
I think this is mainly about Nintendo. Those old game cartridges don’t last forever, and since they no longer sell products such as gba games, the only way to acquire them is to pirate them. Especially as games are now starting to reach the end of their shelf life.
It’s not true for everyone, if I can legally watch something and pay for it I always will. But Australia only has 33% of what American Netflix has because licensing laws so there are shows that I would **never** be able to watch unless I pirate them.
Post makes generalized claim.
Comment says general claim is not correct.
Others reply that the comment is wrong because the claim is mostly true, or true under specific circumstances, or true if the person actually meant this loosely related claim and not the one originally being argued.
1+1=1.999999999
No 1+1=2
Well actually if you round 1.999999 up it becomes 2 and blah blah blah
It was also not very good, much smaller library and extremely inconvenient!
I generally agree that non-monetary inconveniences are a big deal driving piracy. But cost is also a huge factor, especially today where many people have pretty easy access to huge libraries of content. But there are substantial fees.
Fr. I’d pay for the streaming services but at this point you have to collect them like infinity stones. How many are we at now? A dozen different subscriptions to cover half the movies and shows I want to watch? I simply don’t have the money for that.
Saturday morning cartoons on Tv with awesome kids' ads is better than all the BS now.
You didn't get anything "on demand" you had to wait for it and that made it better.
There was a show on Cartoon Network called Infinity Train. All of a sudden, it was taken off all streaming services, taken off the air, all mention of it scrubbed from CN’s Twitter and YouTube; it was just gone. There was no reason provided. CN just took all that hard work from the producers, writers, animators, voice actors, and everyone else who poured their blood, sweat, and tears into this show and flushed it. Pirating that show is now the most reliable way to watch it, therefore not only making piracy easy, but also ethical.
If a product is easier and more convenient to pirate than get officially it’ll get pirated, games where you have to go through ten steps every time you open it to prove you bought it are more likely to get pirated and have the validation stuff bypassed than a game where you open it and it just runs
iTunes made more money for the recording industry off of me in the first month of use than they had made the old fashioned way in over 20 years.
Now if only the NHL would get their crap together, jettison those legacy regional cable blackout agreements, and get me the damn Rangers games I want, they could make some (more) money off of me, too.
They did, and people still pirated 😭
But, even with that being said, I'm still gonna pirate content. I get supporting creators, especially when they make beautiful content, but I'm just not a fan of paying for a subscription just to watch the ONE thing in that subscription (ex: Amazon with Invincible and The Boys and it's runoff animated show). Literally a waste of my money
The TV show “Touch” is a very good example of this. (I’ll admit the name isn’t great without context but it’s very good and I highly recommend it). It was on Netflix when I watched it and absolutely loved it. There’s lots of parts that show different countries and have different languages so obviously subtitles are essential. Since I watched it, it had been taken off Netflix but is now on Prime. I tried to show my Bf it and he was enjoying it but it quickly came apparent we wouldn’t be able to watch it as “speaking X” isn’t a great way of telling a story
I literally own NFS Underground 2 but can't play it because I don't have an xbox 360. Id like to play it legally but it's easier to just pirate the game I actually own than go buy a used xbox
Seriously why is a ds still 200$ and why didn't they make the switch and ds cartridges compatible I just want to play Kirby super star ultra without paying a butload of money for an old ass device
In the UK, you can only watch house of the dragon at most at 1080p SD with Now TV IF you also purchase the £5 boost add on. Without it you get SD 720p.
Pirating it would get you 4k HDR.
They do look at this stuff. They use statistics to model expected income. The gain from lowering prices to reduce theft is probably lower than the loss due to lowering the prices. Theft/pirating is just part of their overhead. It’s all calculated.
...there is?
It's called pay for it.
If you specifically talking about content that isn't anywhere, or only in a certain country than yes I agree.
However I'm not going to give any of you the benefit of the doubt as a lot of you proudly admit to pirating things you could just be paying for. Don't have the money, don't pirate it.
There's a huge gap between "make a living" as if total revenue exceeds total costs and "high profit" as if total revenue exceeds total costs by a certain margin that must grow every year.
The former is quite manageable. The latter inevitably leads to explouting both employees and consumers.
The artists have got to make a living, the companies can get fucked
They pay the artists peanuts, and then middle-man and restrict the consumers access to it to create an artificial scarcity that need not exist. They create and solve the problem, for money, poorly, and a lot of people aren't about it
Some content is simply not for sale anymore, nintendo is famous for this, only way to get it is to pirate it or buy some overpriced second hand copy of the game if there even is one.
That's what this meme is about. Don't ask for examples, I don't know any, just know that Nintendo and some companies do that.
Well the meme says “companies” not “Nintendo”. I’m perfectly within my right to ask for examples, your refusal to provide them shows that there’s not many of this supposed issue. Yes, Nintendo does perpetrate this, and for that piracy is viable and understandable. But again, the meme doesn’t call out Nintendo, it doesn’t even call out one industry. It’s directly towards all companies who produce anything that could be pirated, and I’d like examples of something that’s better quality pirated than purchased legally as you’ve asserted exist. You can’t make a claim and not be prepared to support it. If you don’t know any examples, you don’t know it’s true, and you’re talking out of your ass.
Microsoft and Adobe make most of their money by selling to schools and studios and other places not the average consumer. So basically me pirating doesn't even put a dent into their pockets.
The problem is they always want a proprietary rather than following existing standards
It really shouldn't need to be this difficult now the internet exists
Another irony is that when things were on VHS (if you ignore betamax) and DVD (if you ignore - and +) it was actually already partially solved, the only reason people were pirating those was because the DRM made it hard to store/transport conveniently once you already owned it, and the region lock and censorship was a pain in the cock
Fundamentally not true. There will always be pirating, even if it's offered in places legally. What is true is that when businesses make it hard to access content or remove content, yes, it leads more people to want to pirate.
I have 4 subscriptions, if there is something I cannot find on those 4 its either not worth my time to watch, or will be downloaded somewhere else. I shouldn't even need to have 4 in the first place.
Looking at you Disney only allowing the owl house timber watches on the Disney channel and realising it months later on Disney+.
Basically the only way to watch it without spending money getting cable is to pirate it
I mostly do it because certain movies and a lot of older anime are unavailable to watch on any streaming sites and cannot be bought physically in an easy manner
Especially with softwares. Like I don't understand why are softwares so costly. Bitch, it's a virtual asset. You can just copy paste and sell it, bringing the cost down per piece.
Just look at MS windows. Official site says 100£, key reseller site says 10£. Why would I pirate if I can buy the product 10times cheaper.
AI development is still in its infancy, but with ongoing involvement from companies, the technology will only continue to improve and open up more possibilities in the future.
A lot of companies still don't fully grasp the potential that AI tools have to offer, so it's important to educate them on what AI can do and how it can potentially help their business.
Oh but they do, you just need to sign up for their monthly service which is separate from the 3-4 different services you already pay for. And don't even think about sharing account info with friends or family, that is "stealing" and they could cancel your account!.. I mean they won't, because they want your money, but they can threaten you with cease and desist warnings. *Edit to add: This is satire by the way, by pointing out the fact you need more and more service subscriptions just to access certain media is rediculous. Please don't take it as defense of weird streaming practices or even support of pirating.. it's just poking fun at the situation.
yea lol wtf is this meme saying... i pirate content because they want my fucking money
I pirate games because I have no money We are not the same.
You pirate games because you have no money. I pirate games because game devs losing a whole Russian region worth of revenue is supposed to help defeat Putin. We are not the same.
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We are not the same indeed. But the saddest thing is when you do feel like paying, but you cannot. Even before the sanctions I tried to by a game for my German friends on steam, but couldn't because regional prices. Fuck it, I was ready to pay price of their region, but there is no such option in Steam.
you can get keys on G2A i think
Don’t buy g2a. It’s worse than piracy. To sum up, a lot of the keys on there are actually stolen via credit card, so the developer ends up paying the cost in stolen credit card fees. Piracy gains the dev no money. G2A’s stolen keys actually take money from the developer. https://youtu.be/twor6RYVtdQ
that's WHY i dont wanna give it to them
you cant give what you don't have tho
I pirate games until I can afford to buy them and suppourt the developers, we are not the same
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Like battle for middle earth. Can't get that outside of private sellers or gamestores.
Speaking for me having to watch bundesliga (soccer) was and still is aggrevating. Used to be friday games on eurosport, saturday games on sky and sunday games on dazn (and some other extra rule i cant remember) Now its only sky and dazn i think. Still too much money Edit: so i just stream it on some sketchy site.
I pirate content because im poor and most of the streaming services dont even provide where i live, besides netflix and prime, i dont think anyone else offers service in my country
People want to believe they’re not engaged in morally dubious behavior. I have done it too so I’m not being self righteous here. I try to support my favorite niche content creators but I have very limited budget relative to my appetite for cool stuff. The end result is we get less content than we otherwise would because of piracy. Not gonna shed a tear for Disney or HBO or Amazon Prime or whatever but it is objectively true that they make more of the content that makes money. I want more Wheel of Time and Game of Thrones and Witcher and JJK and blah blah blah, but I also don’t want to spend a lot of money. Pretty obvious conflict!
You prolly won’t get upvoted because people on the internet like to not pay what they owe to the evil companies But have mine
> oh but they do No they don't, it's region locked. I literally cannot watch it legally.
Why go to 5 different subscription services depending on what I want to see when I can go to 1 pirate location to watch it all? It's the convenience as much as the subscription costs at this point.
Not all I want to watch a shot at love with tila tequila its not on any streaming services, not available for digital download. So where can I legally watch it?
No idea, I'm not defending them btw. I'm saying they either force you into so many subscriptions you're paying for things now more than you ever paid for cable, or they deny access to things you want. Take Nintendo for example, I want to play N64 games, well the normal emulator requires a paid Nintendo account so I can play SNES games, but wants you to pay additional to plays N64 games.. which I personally dislike
I know quite a few things I can't even get via a subscription. Literally no way to obtain a copy of several movies, TV shows, video games and music you can not legally purchase in any capacity anywhere in the world outside of piracy. In some instances, it's merely licensing issues confusing who can even legally sell the thing. But in many more, such as with Nintendo games, the company seems to just not be interested in making money off something people are literally begging to be able to pay for.
No, they don't. Some companies (Nintendo especially) hate their customers and if the *virtual* product gets a bit old it's practically gone forever unless you pirate it.
Nintendo is one of those companies I criticize here, you have to have a paid Nintendo account to play a random assortment of SNES games, and you have to upgrade to a "plus" service to play N64 games. Services on top of services.
Put it in the vault, then charge a fortune when you take it out.
Lmao pirating rocks wdym? Fuck IP's and all that dogshit.
“In general, we think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. For example, if a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the U.S. release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable. Most DRM solutions diminish the value of the product by either directly restricting a customers use or by creating uncertainty.” Gabe Newell, ceo of valve
This quote is always dropped when piracy comes up and it’s still so true. I‘ve now reached the point where I buy most movies on UHD or Blu Ray but still pirate them because the pirated copies are just superior to the legal ones in every way. Literally the only reason I pay for that stuff is because I want to support the creators, it’s more like a donation than a purchase. Same goes for video games, DRM is the most ridiculous anti-consumer effort that exists. It’s absolutely and utterly useless in preventing piracy, costs millions and the only thing it really excels at is fucking over the poor people who actually pay for stuff.
I wonder what would happen if instead of being taken down, pirating sites were just forced to add a button that lets you donate to the legal owner
Now that’s an interesting idea. I wonder if studios would make more money this way or by selling stuff without drm.
I haven't bought a physical disc in probably ten years, but I also don't pirate anything. If you have the means to pay and you do so "to support the creators" you're only inconveniencing yourself. Digital library and on-demand streaming are simply better in quality and convenience
> Digital library and on-demand streaming are simply better in quality and convenience That’s absolutely not the case. Netflix for example reduced the bitrate of 4K content in Europe over the pandemic. Generally most streaming media has extremely low Bitrate, especially compared to Blu-ray or UHD discs (the difference can easily be tenfold). And it’s only convenient as long as you have a supported setup and the storefront you bought the content from is willing to provide you with it. If you have an old receiver between your TV and set-top-box, you won’t be able to play Blu-ray’s or stream high quality (for most streaming services, that’s 720p and higher) at all because the HDCP chain is broken. Using the wrong browser? No content or 480p, if you’re lucky. Older device that’s generally not supported? No content. Warner decides a show you “bought“ should be written off? It just disappears from your library. On vacation in another country? Most content won’t be available. Meanwhile, I can watch all my content on all my devices, thanks to Plex and Jellyfin even with the convenience you’d expect from a streaming service like Netflix. I can download and keep my movies for as long as I like, I can just throw them on a USB stick and take them to a friends house, or just stream them over the internet wherever I am. I can watch most movies weeks or even months before they release in my region (if they are released at all). The thing that really grinds my gears about all this is that it’s futile. EVERY SINGLE new movie or tv show will be available to pirate just hours after its release in the highest quality the streaming service or disc offers, sometimes even before the official release. It may not be the most convenient way, but if you know what you’re doing, pirating a movie is just as fast if not even faster than buying it. And ironically, you “own“ that piece of media whereas you just lend it from a legal source, even if you “buy“ it there.
Yeah, everyone knows that music piracy didn’t take off until the great CD shortage of 2003.
*laughs in 1980s dual tape deck*
Classic Newell's Law. No comment section across the internet fails to bring this up in regards to piracy.
Actually, that's Cunningham's Law, not Newell's Law
I had to look that up. Isn't Cunningham's Law about posting the wrong answer to get the right answer?
Yes.
This was so damn accurate in Argentina at the time we couldn't buy our games with ARS (argentinian pesos) instead of dollars, which are extremely expensive down here, nowadays there's great discounts in steam from time to time that even a broke ass like me can buy to support small developers. As a matter of fact, my dad himself taught me how to do piracy as a kid because everything that could be pirated was (and still is in many cases) VERY expensive.
Another thing that someone else brought up in relation to this quote: Some might say "Oh, people will pirate things so they won't have to spend money." Thing is, if people genuinely had no money to spend, then you shouldn't care if they pirate it because they wouldn't be giving you money either way. The people who DO have money WILL be happy to spend it if it meant the service they're getting was worth it which, as the quote shows, often isn't.
Nintendo is in that classroom rn
oh, you want to play this snes game that only has 10 copies and will never be released on virtual console?
What's a virtual console?/s
I don't really fallow Nintendo but If I remember correctly I should be a monthly subscription service like x box game pass but for old nintendo game
basically, which isn't that bad, they even implemented online play for the multiplayer games. The only problem is that the server connection is pretty crappy. I'm just hoping for Game Boy to Game Boy Advance games to be implemented.
Fun fact, GBA emulators are extremely user friendly and easy to pick up! With most games, you simply download something like MyBoyFree or JohnGBALite (free versions but still outclass not playing the game, they have a built in all-in-one cheat engine coupled with a speed up function in the free versions with unlimited access) and download the ROM file off of a website (The games themselves are not built in but downloading ROM files is simple) If you want me to go in more detail about the beauty of ROMs I'd be happy to! (P.S. this is completely legal and most top search results like emulatorgames.net are safe, just don't click the popups. The paid versions just give convenience like removing sidebar ads, letting you enter cheat codes with infinite length instead of segments, and faster speedups so don't worry about only getting half a game or something. These games are available in the app store too)
The selection is quite low compared to what the Wii U offered honestly
Its always 3 steps forward and 2 steps back with Nintendo and playing their older games. While at the same time getting more and more hostile with emulation.
Disney too, with the anime they've poached
They can put their games on steam or not. I'll play them anyways.
Where's Mother 3 Reggie??
Windwaker HD on switch please 😤
Nah, people would pirate either way.
It's not true, I don't pirate videogames because it's really easy to buy and download legally, but films and series are a nightmare sometimes There would still be some pirates, but less
>It's not true Yeah, your anecdotal evidence really disproves his point
Just look at music piracy. Its basically non-existing nowadays because its just easier to pay for Spotify and get every song plus more in a nice UI
I use Spotify premium! Illegally.... There are apps out there
Can’t download and the quality is shit. Source: I know about xmanager. And its not really illegal. Just against the TOS And premium account generators are trash. I’d rather not listen to music at all than use a hacked premium account. The experience is horrible.
I used Spotify++ and the sound quality was fine. Didn't sound anywhere near as bad as YT MP3's, but I still couldn't download anything.
I meant this in the sense that "Not everyone would continue to pirate it" and me not continuing is a proof of that statement. His statement, in the other hand, meant "It would change nothing in the number of piracy" which is false, as for example, music piracy declined a lot following the creation of applications like Spotify. Source : Wikipedia page of music piracy for example I'd add that a statement without proof can be refuted without proof, so an anecdotical evidence is actually enough to disprove its comment.
An anecdote that perfectly illustrates a larger point which has been proven to be true.
There would be less but a good amount of pirates don’t wanna pay either way.
Or cant
Naw most people are lazy or don’t wanna bother paying. There’s no way I can’t fish out $10 a month but there’s no much reason to.
>I don't pirate videogames because it's really easy to buy and download legally You do not speak for everyone. My sister pirates video games even when she has the money for them, so yeah.
I definitely would still be pirating. Why pay for something I can get for free?
Because some people try to act morally. For some people, it is fair to remunerate people or corporations for their work. It's also a way, at your personal level, to contribute to the continuation of something you like or might like. But if the remuneration or mean of remuneration expected from you is unfair on difficult to use, it becomes harder to fullfil this idea. I just couldn't legitimately pay 200$ to buy DVD for a series. (Extreme example but still). If you really see the world only through the idea : "Why would I do X if Y is more profitable to me ?", you are honestly not a person I would like to have in my life, without offense.
>If you really see the world only through the idea : "Why would I do X if Y is more profitable to me ?", you are honestly not a person I would like to have in my life, ~~without offense.~~ full offence FTFY you coward :P
Wanted to say the same. That being said, it would make pirating less desirable for many.
But there would be a lot less of them. I don't pirate modern Nintendo Swith games, I buy them. I however do pirate gba and gamecube games because there isn't really any other way to play them besides succumbing to scalpers
Steam prove it wrong. When games were on stream and with my local currency(and prices) I bought a ton. Nowadays I only buy 90%off or from keyehops.
Yeah there's always going to be people who would. But it's not about all piracy, it's about the overwhelming majority of it. And the overwhelming majority of people wouldn't pirate if there was a more convenient alternative available. For example. Whenever I look for a new show to watch I always check if it's on Netflix, which I am subscribed to. Because it's much nicer to do it through there than some crusty website. But I'm also not going to have more than one streaming service subscription because that will Quick get ridiculously expensive and annoying. And w switching between services constantly would be a massive hassle compared to just going to one crusty website for all my stuff.
True, but people would pirate less
Nope i have Disney+ but can't watch bleach anime because it's region locked
I think this is mainly about Nintendo. Those old game cartridges don’t last forever, and since they no longer sell products such as gba games, the only way to acquire them is to pirate them. Especially as games are now starting to reach the end of their shelf life.
It’s not true for everyone, if I can legally watch something and pay for it I always will. But Australia only has 33% of what American Netflix has because licensing laws so there are shows that I would **never** be able to watch unless I pirate them.
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Who is still pirating music since Deezer / Spotify ?
People watched TV with ads for thousands of years for free until somebody fucked it up
Thousands of years
Eons.
Since the dawn of time
How do you think they filmed the Ice Age movies dummy? TV was already a thing.
Yeah! Ray Romano actually, indeed, descends from Wooly Mammoths!
Yeah mate, remember that time when Christopher Columbus saw a land on TV, and he went like “I gotta sail there”.
Game of Thrones was a documentary
Obviously. Also, you know that historical figure Jack Sparrow? Yeah mate, he kinda looked like Johnny Depp. Bit weird innit
It was also not very good, much smaller library and extremely inconvenient! I generally agree that non-monetary inconveniences are a big deal driving piracy. But cost is also a huge factor, especially today where many people have pretty easy access to huge libraries of content. But there are substantial fees.
Legal and easy. Always remember easy.
Fr. I’d pay for the streaming services but at this point you have to collect them like infinity stones. How many are we at now? A dozen different subscriptions to cover half the movies and shows I want to watch? I simply don’t have the money for that.
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Saturday morning cartoons on Tv with awesome kids' ads is better than all the BS now. You didn't get anything "on demand" you had to wait for it and that made it better.
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When I was on vacation at America I was shocked to find out there are ad breaks in fucking kid cartoons
Nintendo
People would still totally pirate it
Summertime Render?
I haven't seen it is it good
I’m watching it now it’s pretty good imo, definitely a stand-out show.
Who knows?! Disney bought the distribution rights and won't release it in America.
Let's be real, people would still pirate it, but it would definitely cut down on that.
As a Bleach fan I felt this
Wait is there a way to legally watch Bleach?
Hulu in the US and Disney + in the Uk and Canada. But for the rest you can't unfortunately
There was a show on Cartoon Network called Infinity Train. All of a sudden, it was taken off all streaming services, taken off the air, all mention of it scrubbed from CN’s Twitter and YouTube; it was just gone. There was no reason provided. CN just took all that hard work from the producers, writers, animators, voice actors, and everyone else who poured their blood, sweat, and tears into this show and flushed it. Pirating that show is now the most reliable way to watch it, therefore not only making piracy easy, but also ethical.
I wish I could pirate a house
They do, money
If a product is easier and more convenient to pirate than get officially it’ll get pirated, games where you have to go through ten steps every time you open it to prove you bought it are more likely to get pirated and have the validation stuff bypassed than a game where you open it and it just runs
Depending on where one lives, if there isnt a way to consume it legally, one is allowed to pirate it.
It's a classic case of corpo-cunts wanting more money.
copro-cunts
iTunes made more money for the recording industry off of me in the first month of use than they had made the old fashioned way in over 20 years. Now if only the NHL would get their crap together, jettison those legacy regional cable blackout agreements, and get me the damn Rangers games I want, they could make some (more) money off of me, too.
Me still thinking about Flash Player.
I miss Flash Player
I would still pirate it
if these kids could read, they wouldn't stream so much shit to their brains
@the national hockey league
They did, and people still pirated 😭 But, even with that being said, I'm still gonna pirate content. I get supporting creators, especially when they make beautiful content, but I'm just not a fan of paying for a subscription just to watch the ONE thing in that subscription (ex: Amazon with Invincible and The Boys and it's runoff animated show). Literally a waste of my money
Looking at you NHL
Service: "Not available in your country." Me: " Are you sure about that?"
To be fair, yes I would.
Bleach in europe rn. God i hate disney
The TV show “Touch” is a very good example of this. (I’ll admit the name isn’t great without context but it’s very good and I highly recommend it). It was on Netflix when I watched it and absolutely loved it. There’s lots of parts that show different countries and have different languages so obviously subtitles are essential. Since I watched it, it had been taken off Netflix but is now on Prime. I tried to show my Bf it and he was enjoying it but it quickly came apparent we wouldn’t be able to watch it as “speaking X” isn’t a great way of telling a story
NINTEND🤮
Lookin at you, Nintendo
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amazon prime video
I literally own NFS Underground 2 but can't play it because I don't have an xbox 360. Id like to play it legally but it's easier to just pirate the game I actually own than go buy a used xbox
Seriously why is a ds still 200$ and why didn't they make the switch and ds cartridges compatible I just want to play Kirby super star ultra without paying a butload of money for an old ass device
sadly not true i pirate out of spite
In the UK, you can only watch house of the dragon at most at 1080p SD with Now TV IF you also purchase the £5 boost add on. Without it you get SD 720p. Pirating it would get you 4k HDR.
What do you think streaming services are
not available in your country is my streaming service
All I need to do is pay for 9 streaming services to watch the 10 shows I like. No problem
They do look at this stuff. They use statistics to model expected income. The gain from lowering prices to reduce theft is probably lower than the loss due to lowering the prices. Theft/pirating is just part of their overhead. It’s all calculated.
...there is? It's called pay for it. If you specifically talking about content that isn't anywhere, or only in a certain country than yes I agree. However I'm not going to give any of you the benefit of the doubt as a lot of you proudly admit to pirating things you could just be paying for. Don't have the money, don't pirate it.
Legally at a reasonable price
Companies would go bankrupt if they follow that logic, they gotta make living.
This is more about ease of purchase than pricing I believe
Region locking isn't gonna hurt Netflix and Disney
There's a huge gap between "make a living" as if total revenue exceeds total costs and "high profit" as if total revenue exceeds total costs by a certain margin that must grow every year. The former is quite manageable. The latter inevitably leads to explouting both employees and consumers.
The artists have got to make a living, the companies can get fucked They pay the artists peanuts, and then middle-man and restrict the consumers access to it to create an artificial scarcity that need not exist. They create and solve the problem, for money, poorly, and a lot of people aren't about it
Damn I got ratioed
I think ‘retain the content legally’ might be a better phrasing. At least, that’s how I feel about most subscriptions.
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I needed Illustrator for schoo, and for the first time i pitated something Even I put sea shanties when it finished the instalation
The way to consume it legally is to pay for it. There’s plenty of valid arguments in piracy’s favor but this is not one of them.
But why pay for it if you get an inferior version?
Some content is simply not for sale anymore, nintendo is famous for this, only way to get it is to pirate it or buy some overpriced second hand copy of the game if there even is one. That's what this meme is about. Don't ask for examples, I don't know any, just know that Nintendo and some companies do that.
Well the meme says “companies” not “Nintendo”. I’m perfectly within my right to ask for examples, your refusal to provide them shows that there’s not many of this supposed issue. Yes, Nintendo does perpetrate this, and for that piracy is viable and understandable. But again, the meme doesn’t call out Nintendo, it doesn’t even call out one industry. It’s directly towards all companies who produce anything that could be pirated, and I’d like examples of something that’s better quality pirated than purchased legally as you’ve asserted exist. You can’t make a claim and not be prepared to support it. If you don’t know any examples, you don’t know it’s true, and you’re talking out of your ass.
Tatsuro Yamashita is on that class LOL!
Looking at you Nintendo
Only way to stream Always Sunny is on Disney+… coooooool no thanks
We're looking at you nintendo!
*legally without ads
Microsoft and Adobe make most of their money by selling to schools and studios and other places not the average consumer. So basically me pirating doesn't even put a dent into their pockets.
Minecraft is pretty popular and widely available game everywhere but definitely the most pirated game of all time.
Dear Nintendo, release your damn legacy titles. People will buy them
But than we would have to watch it with ads if they did that at least streaming networks don’t have ads excluding Hulu
Nintendo: i pretend I didn’t see that
South park Canada. Common man it's been years
The problem is they always want a proprietary rather than following existing standards It really shouldn't need to be this difficult now the internet exists Another irony is that when things were on VHS (if you ignore betamax) and DVD (if you ignore - and +) it was actually already partially solved, the only reason people were pirating those was because the DRM made it hard to store/transport conveniently once you already owned it, and the region lock and censorship was a pain in the cock
oh yes we would!
They still will, but less people will resort to it
I still would. Fuck companies
If I could buy a show from a central place I would buy so much crap just to have collections.
Lookin at you, Nintendo. Put the old Pokémon games on switch already!!
Litteraly Disney + with Bleach rn.
Fundamentally not true. There will always be pirating, even if it's offered in places legally. What is true is that when businesses make it hard to access content or remove content, yes, it leads more people to want to pirate.
U.K. citizen wishing to watch KotH
Try to tell this to Nintendo
I have 4 subscriptions, if there is something I cannot find on those 4 its either not worth my time to watch, or will be downloaded somewhere else. I shouldn't even need to have 4 in the first place.
Do you want ads? This is how you get ads.
Nintendo ☕
Nah people still would
Looking at you Disney only allowing the owl house timber watches on the Disney channel and realising it months later on Disney+. Basically the only way to watch it without spending money getting cable is to pirate it
Nintendo moment
I mostly do it because certain movies and a lot of older anime are unavailable to watch on any streaming sites and cannot be bought physically in an easy manner
For real no Disney+ in Ukraine like at all. Even if I pay them I cant log in on TV without VPN.
Say that to Nintendo
Uh wrong. There isn’t a soul that is pirating right now because the shit ain’t legal people are pirating because the shit ain’t free.
Nintendo.
Especially with softwares. Like I don't understand why are softwares so costly. Bitch, it's a virtual asset. You can just copy paste and sell it, bringing the cost down per piece. Just look at MS windows. Official site says 100£, key reseller site says 10£. Why would I pirate if I can buy the product 10times cheaper.
Looking at you George Lucas
*coughs*Nintendo*coughs*
No I still pirate anime and manga
Epl 3 o'clock games would be nice
Or in poor countries games cost half of you monthly wage so buying them regularly is not posible unless you want to eat your couch
No no there would still be a shit tine of pirating
I think affordable is the word you are looking for.
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