If you search this sub it does happen occasionally. Sometimes law enforcement will watch the dealers and post office will flag the package. Then they’ll do a controlled delivery to the house so they can bust you with it in your possession. I think that tends to happen more if you are making a lot of purchases or ordering bulk amounts. The post I saw was a girl that was ordering adderall 1-2 times a week. Also, if you are ordering pill presses or illegal firearms the post office is more likely to do a controlled delivery. I believe she was able to plead down to a low charge by cooperating with the police to bust the dealer.
You should read the dark net bible and actually follow it. The delivery house needs to be completely clean. No drugs or other paraphernalia. Only order stuff every couple of months. Only have 1 package in route at a time. If you place 3 orders the first one could get snagged and then post office will start checking all of your mail and could find the other 2. Ordering from the dark web is all about plausible deniability. If they snag your package and find more drugs in the house or in the mail it will be easier to make the case that you were the one ordering it. Don’t fuck with international orders. The cheaper prices are tempting, but the chances of getting caught or losing your package go up astronomically. Don’t ever order to an address if any package gets seized. At that point the address is burned and you need to find a new place to receive deliveries.
Read the dark net Bible located in this sub’s FAQ section. It answers all of these questions. No, you don’t need a VPN to access tor in most cases. If your ISP blocks tor access you will need to set up a VPN bridge to access it. Bible has directions on how to do that. Bible also tells you how to set up a USB flash drive that runs a special program that wipes all the data anytime you shutdown the computer or pull the drive.
Read the dark net Bible and check out mental outlaw on YouTube and actually read it like I’m going too and no a vpn would just compromise u tor is a vpn in of itself
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I once read an article about a guy who ordered and either it was sent by accident, or because the address wasn't correct, to a neighbor who took it to the police. Then for some reason went to the station to try and retrieve the package.
No one gives a crap if you buy a personal use amount of drugs every now and then. Get 10,000 fent pills shipped to the house and be prepared for a meet and greet from the Feds.
It's not far off. I know I've heard of people smoking 100 a day, so wouldn't last much longer than 3 months for one person. They are pretty weak for an opioid tolerant person I think.
Normally no, but if any package (in the USA) is determined to have any felony amount of illegal drugs, personal or otherwise, authorities are going to get involved.
You do realize ANY amount of illegal drugs in the mail is a felony amount right lol they don’t go “oop this one has 53 grams and not 52, time to bust down the doors boys!”
Back when XM got busted the feds got on his profile and messaged me back. Luckily knew what was up, asked me for my address for a reship. RIP to a legend, we messaged back and forth quite a bit over a year or so before getting busted. Nice guy
Its a good idea to have a secret word or number you can ask your guy if something seems kinda fishy and if they cant give you that code than its time to break off contact. That implies they didnt write it on their laptop with a sharpie but its worth doing imo.
I got busted as a buyer in 2015. Haven't bought since. First time offender and did a year. Shit was ass. My only advice is don't buy overseas unless you are ok with the risk.
Yeah it's no problem, I've served my time and no longer live the lifestyle, so I don't mind sharing my experience. I was a small time dealer in my area and started buying from other US places in like earlyyyyyyy silk road days then eventually got greedy and started buying over seas for better prices(MDMA). I got away with it in total for like 3-4 years I wanna say. I don't remember when I originally started exactly but yeah every once in awhile a package would just never show up and I just wrote it off as getting lost in the mail. Well one day I got a call from the post office(should have been my first clue) that my package was ready to pickup, but my Box was full so they couldn't put it in there. I went and picked it up and everything was normal. I drove the long way home and didn't see anyone following me. Got home opened the package and there was a tracker inside. Immediately just sank, knew I was busted. Looked out the window and every cop in my entire little town had to have been on my street lmao. It was so overkill but oh well. Turns out when those packages went missing here and there that was the DEA building a case and they handed it over to my local trooper station to bust me. Originally was charged with a whole bunch of shit and they tried to nail me with 15 years lmao. I had the worst lawyer in the history of lawyers and still got it down to 1. Ended up sentenced with a class c felony with an SIS.
Thank you for sharing, I feel it's still really important for people to see stories like this. I've heard of plenty of controlled deliveries / pickups but never the extra step of adding a tracking device! So sorry that happened to you but so glad you didn't get hit with 15 years. Hope life is going well for you!
If I'm being 100% honest it was probably the best thing that's ever happened to me. Or at least was a huge turning point in my life. I had been making like 6 figures basically straight out of highschool and had partied and eaten myself up to 430 pounds. I hadn't worked a real job more than a month at a time in like 4 years because why would I? I had more money than I knew what to do with. I also failed college because I had no drive to go so I'd sign up for classes and go like once then just leave em and fail. After I got arrested while I was on third party before my sentencing I like completely flipped my life around. I started going to school again and passed all my classes I could before I went to jail. I started losing weight and got a job. When I got out I continued on that path and now I have lost 220 pounds. I have my degree and am a licensed CPA and I have 3 kids and am a home owner. I found discipline and worked my ass off to get here. Don't get me wrong I still party here and there, but I definitely needed a dose of reality and that definitely gave it to me.
I think this is also a REALLY important story for people to see. It sounds awesome to sit around and make a ton of money just by taking some legal risk. Many don"t think about what that can do to you as a person. I wasn't even doing that well dealing; just enough to pay the bills and it made me completely unmotivated. I didn't even like some of the drugs I was selling but I ended up getting addicted to them simply out of boredom. Your story is inspiring to those worried they have no other option or to those who think it's too late to turn things around. Very glad to hear you're doing well, and that you still know how to party! Thank you for sharing
Believe me, my butthole was puckered when I sent in that application. They had to do a full investigation and I had to send in like every court doc I could get my hands on and write this huge letter on how I've turned my life around and all this shit. There isn't real clarity on what they let through and what they don't except for the obvious like if you are a felon for embezzlement they won't and shit like that. I think it also varies state to state.
Yeah it's no problem, I've served my time and no longer live the lifestyle, so I don't mind sharing my experience. I was a small time dealer in my area and started buying from other US places in like earlyyyyyyy silk road days then eventually got greedy and started buying over seas for better prices(MDMA). I got away with it in total for like 3-4 years I wanna say. I don't remember when I originally started exactly but yeah every once in awhile a package would just never show up and I just wrote it off as getting lost in the mail. Well one day I got a call from the post office(should have been my first clue) that my package was ready to pickup, but my Box was full so they couldn't put it in there. I went and picked it up and everything was normal. I drove the long way home and didn't see anyone following me. Got home opened the package and there was a tracker inside. Immediately just sank, knew I was busted. Looked out the window and every cop in my entire little town had to have been on my street lmao. It was so overkill but oh well. Turns out when those packages went missing here and there that was the DEA building a case and they handed it over to my local trooper station to bust me. Originally was charged with a whole bunch of shit and they tried to nail me with 15 years lmao. I had the worst lawyer in the history of lawyers and still got it down to 1. Ended up sentenced with a class c felony with an SIS.
While you can't say never bc if you're online doing illegal shit you're doing illegal shit and that always comes with a risk period. But while I'm sure it's happened it's extremely extremely rare. But if a buyer is actually a seller at home. And are buying large not personal quantities than that chance is a lot higher
Yes they do my mate had UK customs send him a letter where he could claim the items were his which is weird because he also received a court date! In the mean time the police made him go for a voluntary interview. The charge would be importation and depending how much or what it weighed you might get charged with intent to supply in the UK.
I saw a special on TV a while ago about the Darknet - where they would catch a seller & through the records (spreadsheet) he kept of mailing addresses, they went after the buyers.
Now this may be a case of knowing that they wanted to publicize this case & scare buyers as well as sellers.
I was a heroin addict, and 99% of my habit was supported by product ordered from the Darknet. In my early days, I was waiting an unusually long time for an order from a vendor I used regularly. My guy was not updating and responding to messages. I Googled local news stories from the state on the return address for his packages, and the surrounding states. Yep, he was busted.
I watched the news footage showing him and his home and I freaked out, thinking about how my name and address could be in a file, or on paper or a shipping label in the hands of police. Nothing happened. It scared the hell out of me, but not enough to stop buying heroin (later, I stopped for other reasons).
Why would he have a spreadsheet with everyone’s address’s? That’s fucked up. I guarantee you they only went after it because he was dumb enough to spoon feed it to them like that.
No not for small amounts. The "articles" you read are usually sellers being busted or people buying large enough quantities to be considered resellers. The USPS is the largest drug dealer in the world, no one is going after someone for an eightball. I don't know what kind of batshit crazy people are using COD for drugs, that's just next level stupid.
International purchases are another story, keep it domestic.
Yeah they have a few videos showing users being arrested after they sign for the package. If the post office intercepted it and turns it into police they might set up a sting.
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What's the Bible have to do with buying drugs illegally... you're one of those who have to add the Bible into your day to day to feel righteous aren't you?
Users do get busted. Your best line of defense is ordering domestic only pretty much. If you are in the US, they need a warrant or probable cause to open the pack. If it's international, customs can open for any reason
They only need a warrant if it's USPS, since it's a government owned agency. If it's UPS or FedEx they can open up whatever whenever. I have a friend who used to work for FedEx and he had some wild stories.
Yes, users do get busted. There are plenty of articles showing this. Read about one just the other day, seller gets arrested for selling fake money and they went after several buyers as well.
Yeah counterfeit money is a different ballgame though, they don’t fuck around with anyone in that circle. I mean the secret service oversees that area of activity lmao
I think ordering fake money online eliminates the plausible deniability you'd have when receiving a fake bill as change.
It also proves intent.
I guess you could argue that your motive wasn't to use it as money but as a film prop or something? But I wouldn't want to be the guy trying to convince the Secret Service of that, either.
That’s a lil much u doing 7 years for a oz of meth I know this from experience and depending on the state ur in ur doing almost all the time especially with Texas and fl at the state level of 85% u pass a fake one dollar bill u might do a couple months and if u go fed witch is not happening with ONE dollar ur looking at a way smoother and lighter sentence
Read an article the other day about a recent operation where the Swedish police checked over 10,000 packages in the domestic post office in the second largest. People who orderd smaller amounts were contacted and informed their package was ceased while people who orderd larger amounts (what is conciderd larger amounts is not specified) were raided and arrested. So if you live in Sweden its probably time to find a vendor that actually has a good stealth game because the police are working hard over here to put a stop to people ordering drugs online. There is also cases from a few years ago when a large swedish vendor got busted. They mostly sold benzos and other prescription pills. They forgot to encrypt a backup disc that contained all their transactions which lead to alot of buyers being arrested even if they only orderd smaller amounts.
This is Sweden and I know this doesnt apply to other places even in Europe. Sweden has some very strict drug laws and in just the past year new laws have come into play that are directed at specificly combating the dw drugmarkets. Busting vendors is hard work and most of the time its pretty fruitless so the swedish police have shifted forcus and started going after buyers insted.
If you live in Sweden: Make sure your vendor has good stealth. Throwing a zip into a brown padded envelope with no return adress does not cut it. This is exactly what they are looking for. Read the bible and try to live by it. Especially the part about not having anything ilegal at home when expecting a delivery. Password protect all your devices with a STRONG password because if they come knocking on your door they will confiscate all electronic devices and look for evidence. Six numbers are not a safe password. Use Bitwardens password checker to see how long it would take to break your password. Woth noting is that in Sweden the police do not need a warrent to enter your home, storage spaces or your car. If they suspect you might have drugs in any of these spaces they will enter. If you do not provide a key they will use force. And I think this goes without saying but deny any charges thrown at you. Even if it pretty obvious that you are going down for the crime there is no point in admitting it. Confessing to the crime will not give you a lighter sentence since we dont have plea deals in the swedish judicial system.
Even if this does not apply to the country where you live I hope everyone stays safe and think twice when doing illegal activites. Im not trying to scare anyone but the stakes are quite high and if you are going to involve yourself in crime be smart about it. Dont take risk you dont have to take. My last word of adivce is to only do One Crime At A Time! Stay safe y’all.
I almost gor busted one time.
I was ordering a lot of crack. One vendor was simplly throwing it in a USPS envelops in a baggie. I ordered from them several times because it was cheap. He said he got a scare at his dropoff and that was the last I heard of him.
I was doing the drug beccause I had two failed hips and no paoini killers. They wouldn't give me pain killers, despite my condition, because of the "Pain killer epidemic." I did what I did because our asshole government fucked me,. The pain of a failed hip is debilitatiing, and I had two of them and still had to work 9-5 or lose my income and insurance which would fuck my family of four because I was sole provider. . The hips failed because I was forced to take corticosteroid epiduirals to avoid necessary back surgery my health insurance company didn;t want to pay for. Cant really pay your CEO $35 mil a year and give out bvack surgeries. They ruined my hios and still had to pay for the necessary surgery.
Just thinking about what I wewnt through back then pisses me off. It was a miserable, pauinful, time. Not sure if it shows in mny writing, but Im beating the fuck out of this keyboard.
Fast forward some time later (I dont recall the exact time frames this was circa 2017-2018) or two after this went down. I was odering Kratom by the kilo. My kratom was set to be delivered one day and never shohwed up. On informed delivery it said "out for delivery" for several days.
It was a numnber of days before I cojuld file for a lost package on USPS website. After those days elapsed, I filed for lost package. Later that day I received a call from the post master general at the post office. He said he had my package and it was stoppedd because igt was suspecgted narcotics. He told me I could come claim my Kratom.
I went to the post office, and the post masyter general met me in the parking lot. He showed me myt bags of kratom, and explaoined to me that he had been watching my mail because I had 7 grams of cocaine sent to my address. I said "I don;'t know anything about that," he rolled his eyes and said, "look. it was last year. You can;t get in troubl;e for it. I'm telling you that's why I have been monitoring your mail. Don;'t have anymore narcotics sent to your house."
I said "OK" and left with my Kratom. I stopped ordering anything after that.
Moral of the story: they will eventaually x-ray what is coming through in USPS envelopes. Especially overnight, which I happened to order too frequently back then. If you get something from a vendor that is not x-ray proof, do not order from them again.
X-ray proof is a must! Especially for powder or rock cocaine, or similar drugs. Stealth is good second to x-ray and decoy + steealtrh + x-ray proof is the best way to go.
This is reddit...so flame on. Don't bother replying "this never happened," or "you're lying." No one needs to see that and it doesn't add to the discussion. Just down vote and move along.
I'm sharing my experience in the hopes it may help someone.
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Stop nad think; why do you think vendors have learned over the years to use stealth and mylar bag insteaff of just stuffing druigs in an express envelope?
They learned through trial and error. If mylar and stealth were not needed, do you really think they would use it?
That's about one of the dumbest full of shit stories on here, you know how many pieces of mail go through the post office everyday, you really think they xray that, post office doesn't give a shit what you mail , only way your getting caught is if package breaks open, stinks or somebody told em it was coming, the USPS is the biggest drug courier in the world
Your comment does not ad to the discussion here. That's why there are no responses to it.
Like I said; donwn vorte and move on if you don't believe it. It happened as I say it happerned.
Why do you think vendors have learned over the years to use mylar and stealth instead of just stuffing the drugs in an express envelope? You;re just another jackass that thinks he knows everything and orders very little in the grand scheme of things.
My Coinbasse account shows thate I have bought over $100k in coin since the account inception. Those coins have all been spent on drugs.
How much have you spent over the years? $10K? $20lk? Let me lonoww you get to my level, pal.
I speculate on how they foud the drugs. Everything I said that happened, actually happened.
I really don't give a fuck if you believe it or not.
Down vote and move on. Your comment adds nothing to this conversaation.
Users like you make Reddit a shitty place.
How often are normal packages handled by USPS lined with mylar? If its unusual for a package to be lined with mylar it'll just make the package stand out, right?
Your comment does not add to the discussion here.
Like I said. Down vote and move on. I don;t give a fuck if you believe it or not.
It happened as I say it happened.
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Ages ago, it was a more common thing with USPS. COD - Cash On Delivery. TV ads for products you order by mail or phone would say “No COD” because, I assume, they knew too many people would not pay when the time came and/or USPS didn’t want to deal with a high volume of cash for thousands of garbage products.
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Super long story short..after getting in trouble at work I was suspended for 2 weeks. I decided it was finally time I quit my benzo habit cold turkey. After 2 weeks withdrawal I was in psychosis, calling the police on myself at 3 am. I thought people were “defecating on my bed and living room furniture.” They took me to the hospital and they kept me in the psych ward for 3 days against my will. Clean ever since
Yea luckily no seizures. It was from a mix of 5-6 days no sleep and withdrawal. My neurologist said one more day in psychosis I would’ve been a schizophrenic catatonic. Yeah tho im back to normal now, no lifelong issues somehow lol
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There is no point in boosting users, they are small fries and there are hundreds fold more users than sellers - perusing users would be impossible task and waste of Police budgets.
This is not certain but I believe that they don't bother with orders because they are small amounts going to nobody worthy of the laws attention, also I heard the other day that 1 in 6 packages in the USA have drugs in them so can't lose that much business and where I am in Australia it's a federal matter and they need a warrant to open it hardly worth the time or money so they incinerate it if detected, the last thing is if your digitally clean at home and they do a controlled drop they have no case if you say I wasn't expecting a package
Yes, sometimes it does happen. Here's two news articles where they mention having access to extensive buyers lists and now thousands of user across the globe are supposedly at risk. Stay safe.
"The arrests took place in the United States (153), the United Kingdom (55), Germany (52), the Netherlands (10), Austria (9), France (5), Switzerland (2), Poland (1) and Brazil (1). A number of investigations to identify additional individuals behind dark web accounts are still ongoing. As law enforcement authorities gained access to the vendors’ extensive buyer lists, thousands of customers across the globe are now at risk of prosecution as well."
https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/288-dark-web-vendors-arrested-in-major-marketplace-seizure
"Federal agents executed a search warrant of LeCoque’s online vendor account and located information for 279 orders of illegal drugs from May 2020 to May 2021, including a total of 604 grams of methamphetamine and 234 grams of heroin."
https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/02/29/dark-web-dealer-meth-heroin-heads-prison
My boy got busted, intl half ounce popular dissociative drug.
After tearing the apartment to smithereens
Had tobacco smoking pipe (used for tobacco), scales (told hia lawyer baking is a hobby)like 4 non narcotic unperscribed pills, and obvious cutting agents, Olde boy told em the inositol was daily vitamin he took and the Boric acid was because he had a pest infestation.
Sentenced a year probation,,, weekly drug class for a year.
Ordered to the same address ASAP after end of probation domestic, all ships land.
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Do they go after roid users that just get personal quantity? Curious bc I friend was asking about ordering stuff online and I didn’t know what to tell him
Yes all the time but its mostly because of a mistake they made like using a fake address or something stupid like that and the reason you dont hear about it is because its not news worthy and maybe makes the local paper at best. It has to be a significant amount to draw any real attention and most are less than the average busts local cops are making on your local roads so if you arent looking at arrest records all the time you will not see it.
I’ve been ordering for 3/4 years, so I’m not exactly an OG, I’ve probably spent quite a few grand, max I ever order is a couple hundreds worth, hardly ever order internationally, never followed opsec or read a dark meh bible, and i’ve had no trouble. I’d just recommend ordering personal amounts, domestic only and you really won’t have an issue, the problems start when you are importing kilos of cocaine
Ordered on dw from just after the Sr days. Had one international interception, got a love letter saying they had confiscated 2.09g of Heroin and it would be destroyed. Informed vendor, who then reshipped and package came through no problem. Have successfully ordered from that vendor many times since. Seriously some of you are **seriously** hyper paranoid. However if I was ordering larger quantities that could be interpreted as being for onward disruption I would absolutely have practiced better OpSec.
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Simple answer - yes, and it might not even be your fault.
I had a domestic package delivered with the worst stealth I've ever seen. Luckily I already had a legal prescription for the medication, but I couldn't get a refill until a certain date (should say I'm NL / EU).
I keep my orders local now - ideally NL or Germany.
Same country = minimal risk
EU to EU = low risk
UK to EU / vice versa = medium risk
International should always be considered high risk and there's even different levels of risk IE ordering pills from NL to US/Aus etc
I feel sorry for our friends in Aus and NZ - street prices are a joke. Thus I understand people that want to take the risk.
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Lol, maybe a fed fundraiser operation, but entrapment?? The last 13 or so years of many markets making billions and only a handful of arrests begs to differ
Yeah it's very likely, I once read a story about a redditor who bought few grams of weed from the darkweb (in my country weed it's still ilegal) and when the packege arrived, he opened it and it was tea. the next day he was raided by the police and been taken to the police station to interrogation so it's not always safe for buyers nor for sellers
Always use a burner address. Not a relatives! Not an address that will be checked. It has to be a true burner address that’s active but not being used or one that’s not likely to be checked.
If you search this sub it does happen occasionally. Sometimes law enforcement will watch the dealers and post office will flag the package. Then they’ll do a controlled delivery to the house so they can bust you with it in your possession. I think that tends to happen more if you are making a lot of purchases or ordering bulk amounts. The post I saw was a girl that was ordering adderall 1-2 times a week. Also, if you are ordering pill presses or illegal firearms the post office is more likely to do a controlled delivery. I believe she was able to plead down to a low charge by cooperating with the police to bust the dealer. You should read the dark net bible and actually follow it. The delivery house needs to be completely clean. No drugs or other paraphernalia. Only order stuff every couple of months. Only have 1 package in route at a time. If you place 3 orders the first one could get snagged and then post office will start checking all of your mail and could find the other 2. Ordering from the dark web is all about plausible deniability. If they snag your package and find more drugs in the house or in the mail it will be easier to make the case that you were the one ordering it. Don’t fuck with international orders. The cheaper prices are tempting, but the chances of getting caught or losing your package go up astronomically. Don’t ever order to an address if any package gets seized. At that point the address is burned and you need to find a new place to receive deliveries.
This right here. Follow the DW Bible, one drop at a time, domestic always if possible. Personal use amounts.
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Thanks buddy!
this only happens if they suspect you of distributing further.
That’s not true. I’ve seen plenty of posts where the people were just heavy users. There is no excuse for having bad Op Sec.
How do I find the darknet bible? Ima lil slow
Bro I ordered like 7 packages all at the same time I think none of the packages are coming but I can't even get into my account to check😭
Are you sure you were on an actual dark net market site and not some clone that just stole all of your money?
Dumb newbie question. What site should I look at?
Taxi.tor lists the status of various websites and provides the official links.
Thanks. Don t mean to sound paranoid but should I use a VPN before I click on the link?
Read the dark net Bible located in this sub’s FAQ section. It answers all of these questions. No, you don’t need a VPN to access tor in most cases. If your ISP blocks tor access you will need to set up a VPN bridge to access it. Bible has directions on how to do that. Bible also tells you how to set up a USB flash drive that runs a special program that wipes all the data anytime you shutdown the computer or pull the drive.
Read the dark net Bible and check out mental outlaw on YouTube and actually read it like I’m going too and no a vpn would just compromise u tor is a vpn in of itself
Tor.taxi
Same marketplace I already used before successfully but I might've used a phishing link this time
Can you say what market it is?
Abacus
Did you Tor Taxi to find the link or use any of the security feature to confirm you’re on the real marketplace?
The security features are required to login to the site. They worked obviously so I assumed the link was good
Which security features? The fake sites make security features look legit, but will let you into the fake site no matter what you do. Archetype has a security feature where it pops up a bunch of usernames and you have to select your own to get in. The clone sites will skip that step since they don’t actually know what your username is.
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Why?
I once read an article about a guy who ordered and either it was sent by accident, or because the address wasn't correct, to a neighbor who took it to the police. Then for some reason went to the station to try and retrieve the package.
What a dumbass
GIMME MY DRUGS!!!
😂😂 he must be stupid or something
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Bring a dummy?
What
he meant, is you new fear “being* a dummy?”
Oh okay cheers
No one gives a crap if you buy a personal use amount of drugs every now and then. Get 10,000 fent pills shipped to the house and be prepared for a meet and greet from the Feds.
I mean... if it's not domestic, yeah, but I'd tell you some stories about my own endeavors, but I'm not that dumb.
This guy ate a baby and makes the most meth from here to the hollers of Kentucky!!!
First rule about eating babies, shop local
nothing wrong with the hollers of Kentucky..WV too..or the basement depths of any big city..Whats your joke?
10,000 IS personal use 🤔
It's not far off. I know I've heard of people smoking 100 a day, so wouldn't last much longer than 3 months for one person. They are pretty weak for an opioid tolerant person I think.
10,000 Fent pills? Holy crap.
Normally no, but if any package (in the USA) is determined to have any felony amount of illegal drugs, personal or otherwise, authorities are going to get involved.
Get involved generally meaning doing little to nothing unless it’s an easy case or significant amount.
You do realize ANY amount of illegal drugs in the mail is a felony amount right lol they don’t go “oop this one has 53 grams and not 52, time to bust down the doors boys!”
You are wrong.
Back when XM got busted the feds got on his profile and messaged me back. Luckily knew what was up, asked me for my address for a reship. RIP to a legend, we messaged back and forth quite a bit over a year or so before getting busted. Nice guy
Its a good idea to have a secret word or number you can ask your guy if something seems kinda fishy and if they cant give you that code than its time to break off contact. That implies they didnt write it on their laptop with a sharpie but its worth doing imo.
I got busted as a buyer in 2015. Haven't bought since. First time offender and did a year. Shit was ass. My only advice is don't buy overseas unless you are ok with the risk.
Not doubting you at all, but just so more of us are informed, do you mind sharing how this went down? TIA
Yeah it's no problem, I've served my time and no longer live the lifestyle, so I don't mind sharing my experience. I was a small time dealer in my area and started buying from other US places in like earlyyyyyyy silk road days then eventually got greedy and started buying over seas for better prices(MDMA). I got away with it in total for like 3-4 years I wanna say. I don't remember when I originally started exactly but yeah every once in awhile a package would just never show up and I just wrote it off as getting lost in the mail. Well one day I got a call from the post office(should have been my first clue) that my package was ready to pickup, but my Box was full so they couldn't put it in there. I went and picked it up and everything was normal. I drove the long way home and didn't see anyone following me. Got home opened the package and there was a tracker inside. Immediately just sank, knew I was busted. Looked out the window and every cop in my entire little town had to have been on my street lmao. It was so overkill but oh well. Turns out when those packages went missing here and there that was the DEA building a case and they handed it over to my local trooper station to bust me. Originally was charged with a whole bunch of shit and they tried to nail me with 15 years lmao. I had the worst lawyer in the history of lawyers and still got it down to 1. Ended up sentenced with a class c felony with an SIS.
Thank you for sharing, I feel it's still really important for people to see stories like this. I've heard of plenty of controlled deliveries / pickups but never the extra step of adding a tracking device! So sorry that happened to you but so glad you didn't get hit with 15 years. Hope life is going well for you!
If I'm being 100% honest it was probably the best thing that's ever happened to me. Or at least was a huge turning point in my life. I had been making like 6 figures basically straight out of highschool and had partied and eaten myself up to 430 pounds. I hadn't worked a real job more than a month at a time in like 4 years because why would I? I had more money than I knew what to do with. I also failed college because I had no drive to go so I'd sign up for classes and go like once then just leave em and fail. After I got arrested while I was on third party before my sentencing I like completely flipped my life around. I started going to school again and passed all my classes I could before I went to jail. I started losing weight and got a job. When I got out I continued on that path and now I have lost 220 pounds. I have my degree and am a licensed CPA and I have 3 kids and am a home owner. I found discipline and worked my ass off to get here. Don't get me wrong I still party here and there, but I definitely needed a dose of reality and that definitely gave it to me.
I think this is also a REALLY important story for people to see. It sounds awesome to sit around and make a ton of money just by taking some legal risk. Many don"t think about what that can do to you as a person. I wasn't even doing that well dealing; just enough to pay the bills and it made me completely unmotivated. I didn't even like some of the drugs I was selling but I ended up getting addicted to them simply out of boredom. Your story is inspiring to those worried they have no other option or to those who think it's too late to turn things around. Very glad to hear you're doing well, and that you still know how to party! Thank you for sharing
Hey thanks for sharing your story and good for you man. Hard lesson s are often the best teachers.
You can get a CPA license as a felon? I didn't think you could!
Believe me, my butthole was puckered when I sent in that application. They had to do a full investigation and I had to send in like every court doc I could get my hands on and write this huge letter on how I've turned my life around and all this shit. There isn't real clarity on what they let through and what they don't except for the obvious like if you are a felon for embezzlement they won't and shit like that. I think it also varies state to state.
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My brother in Christ I said small time. Never did anything over 100 grams
How big was the biggest pack you’ve got ordered internationally?
100 grams probably. Don't think I ever went above that.
Yeah it's no problem, I've served my time and no longer live the lifestyle, so I don't mind sharing my experience. I was a small time dealer in my area and started buying from other US places in like earlyyyyyyy silk road days then eventually got greedy and started buying over seas for better prices(MDMA). I got away with it in total for like 3-4 years I wanna say. I don't remember when I originally started exactly but yeah every once in awhile a package would just never show up and I just wrote it off as getting lost in the mail. Well one day I got a call from the post office(should have been my first clue) that my package was ready to pickup, but my Box was full so they couldn't put it in there. I went and picked it up and everything was normal. I drove the long way home and didn't see anyone following me. Got home opened the package and there was a tracker inside. Immediately just sank, knew I was busted. Looked out the window and every cop in my entire little town had to have been on my street lmao. It was so overkill but oh well. Turns out when those packages went missing here and there that was the DEA building a case and they handed it over to my local trooper station to bust me. Originally was charged with a whole bunch of shit and they tried to nail me with 15 years lmao. I had the worst lawyer in the history of lawyers and still got it down to 1. Ended up sentenced with a class c felony with an SIS.
While you can't say never bc if you're online doing illegal shit you're doing illegal shit and that always comes with a risk period. But while I'm sure it's happened it's extremely extremely rare. But if a buyer is actually a seller at home. And are buying large not personal quantities than that chance is a lot higher
Yes they do my mate had UK customs send him a letter where he could claim the items were his which is weird because he also received a court date! In the mean time the police made him go for a voluntary interview. The charge would be importation and depending how much or what it weighed you might get charged with intent to supply in the UK.
What did he order an from what country lol Did he do time?
Luckily no time it was percy amounts, it was powder is all I'll say from the Netherlands
So he just got a warning?
Fines and suspended sentence
Same thing happened to me,some country but to Germany,but no fines and everything got dropped... How did they prove it was him ordering tho
I don't remember exactly, possibly the address he received a letter from Uk customs notifying a parcel had been seized.
They didn't have my stuff just chat history and adress from busted guy
That's unfortunate
>the police made him go for a voluntary interview. Not sure voluntary is the word I'd use here lol
I saw a special on TV a while ago about the Darknet - where they would catch a seller & through the records (spreadsheet) he kept of mailing addresses, they went after the buyers. Now this may be a case of knowing that they wanted to publicize this case & scare buyers as well as sellers.
I was a heroin addict, and 99% of my habit was supported by product ordered from the Darknet. In my early days, I was waiting an unusually long time for an order from a vendor I used regularly. My guy was not updating and responding to messages. I Googled local news stories from the state on the return address for his packages, and the surrounding states. Yep, he was busted. I watched the news footage showing him and his home and I freaked out, thinking about how my name and address could be in a file, or on paper or a shipping label in the hands of police. Nothing happened. It scared the hell out of me, but not enough to stop buying heroin (later, I stopped for other reasons).
Why the fuck would he have a real return address on his packages?
He probably didn't have a real return address, but the fake one is likely near where he does actually live.
He did not. IIRC surveillance followed him from a post office he used more than once.
Do you remember the name?
What's the name of the special or channel it was on?
Why would he have a spreadsheet with everyone’s address’s? That’s fucked up. I guarantee you they only went after it because he was dumb enough to spoon feed it to them like that.
Yeah I got a letter bcs of a busted seller but it got dropepd
Yes but it’s uncommon
Lol
What an ominous “lol”
I mean just from like reading crap there's always a 10% chance you will get fU%$<=
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Dmt idk maybe
no
You can cuss on the internet
No not for small amounts. The "articles" you read are usually sellers being busted or people buying large enough quantities to be considered resellers. The USPS is the largest drug dealer in the world, no one is going after someone for an eightball. I don't know what kind of batshit crazy people are using COD for drugs, that's just next level stupid. International purchases are another story, keep it domestic.
They're one of the largest drug transporters. They don't actually deal drugs. It would be fucking great if they did. Hahaha.
Yeah they have a few videos showing users being arrested after they sign for the package. If the post office intercepted it and turns it into police they might set up a sting.
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That’s why you never sign for anything. If they read the Bible, they would know this. Terrible Opsec. No plausible deniability.
What's the Bible have to do with buying drugs illegally... you're one of those who have to add the Bible into your day to day to feel righteous aren't you?
Lol pretty sure he was talking about the dark net bible my dude
I almost fell for it
Glad you didnt
Users do get busted. Your best line of defense is ordering domestic only pretty much. If you are in the US, they need a warrant or probable cause to open the pack. If it's international, customs can open for any reason
They only need a warrant if it's USPS, since it's a government owned agency. If it's UPS or FedEx they can open up whatever whenever. I have a friend who used to work for FedEx and he had some wild stories.
Thank you! Totally forgot to mention that
Ive had an order of 5 sheets of lsd and 1/2 O of a pvp siezed from an international order but never had an issue with smaller orders
I still can't figure out how the fuck to use it.
It can be a little overwhelming if you've never done it before, but once you learn how it's super simple.
Yes, users do get busted. There are plenty of articles showing this. Read about one just the other day, seller gets arrested for selling fake money and they went after several buyers as well.
Yeah counterfeit money is a different ballgame though, they don’t fuck around with anyone in that circle. I mean the secret service oversees that area of activity lmao
Right. A very very different situation. I'd rather be busted with an ounce of meth then for tryihg to pass off even a fake 1$ bill
Anyone can get given a fake 1dollar in a shop lol an oz of meth is way worse
I think ordering fake money online eliminates the plausible deniability you'd have when receiving a fake bill as change. It also proves intent. I guess you could argue that your motive wasn't to use it as money but as a film prop or something? But I wouldn't want to be the guy trying to convince the Secret Service of that, either.
That’s a lil much u doing 7 years for a oz of meth I know this from experience and depending on the state ur in ur doing almost all the time especially with Texas and fl at the state level of 85% u pass a fake one dollar bill u might do a couple months and if u go fed witch is not happening with ONE dollar ur looking at a way smoother and lighter sentence
Yea Uncle Sam doesn’t play about his skrilla
Counterfeit money is VERY different than buying drugs.. one takes money from the government, the other supplies them with money.
This 👆🏻
*Ba-dumm tsss*
Which state
Read an article the other day about a recent operation where the Swedish police checked over 10,000 packages in the domestic post office in the second largest. People who orderd smaller amounts were contacted and informed their package was ceased while people who orderd larger amounts (what is conciderd larger amounts is not specified) were raided and arrested. So if you live in Sweden its probably time to find a vendor that actually has a good stealth game because the police are working hard over here to put a stop to people ordering drugs online. There is also cases from a few years ago when a large swedish vendor got busted. They mostly sold benzos and other prescription pills. They forgot to encrypt a backup disc that contained all their transactions which lead to alot of buyers being arrested even if they only orderd smaller amounts. This is Sweden and I know this doesnt apply to other places even in Europe. Sweden has some very strict drug laws and in just the past year new laws have come into play that are directed at specificly combating the dw drugmarkets. Busting vendors is hard work and most of the time its pretty fruitless so the swedish police have shifted forcus and started going after buyers insted. If you live in Sweden: Make sure your vendor has good stealth. Throwing a zip into a brown padded envelope with no return adress does not cut it. This is exactly what they are looking for. Read the bible and try to live by it. Especially the part about not having anything ilegal at home when expecting a delivery. Password protect all your devices with a STRONG password because if they come knocking on your door they will confiscate all electronic devices and look for evidence. Six numbers are not a safe password. Use Bitwardens password checker to see how long it would take to break your password. Woth noting is that in Sweden the police do not need a warrent to enter your home, storage spaces or your car. If they suspect you might have drugs in any of these spaces they will enter. If you do not provide a key they will use force. And I think this goes without saying but deny any charges thrown at you. Even if it pretty obvious that you are going down for the crime there is no point in admitting it. Confessing to the crime will not give you a lighter sentence since we dont have plea deals in the swedish judicial system. Even if this does not apply to the country where you live I hope everyone stays safe and think twice when doing illegal activites. Im not trying to scare anyone but the stakes are quite high and if you are going to involve yourself in crime be smart about it. Dont take risk you dont have to take. My last word of adivce is to only do One Crime At A Time! Stay safe y’all.
Obviously just test it out bro frfr, I'd order from China only though to be extra safe
Dawg your asking to get laced fucken china is where fentanyl is mainly made
I almost gor busted one time. I was ordering a lot of crack. One vendor was simplly throwing it in a USPS envelops in a baggie. I ordered from them several times because it was cheap. He said he got a scare at his dropoff and that was the last I heard of him. I was doing the drug beccause I had two failed hips and no paoini killers. They wouldn't give me pain killers, despite my condition, because of the "Pain killer epidemic." I did what I did because our asshole government fucked me,. The pain of a failed hip is debilitatiing, and I had two of them and still had to work 9-5 or lose my income and insurance which would fuck my family of four because I was sole provider. . The hips failed because I was forced to take corticosteroid epiduirals to avoid necessary back surgery my health insurance company didn;t want to pay for. Cant really pay your CEO $35 mil a year and give out bvack surgeries. They ruined my hios and still had to pay for the necessary surgery. Just thinking about what I wewnt through back then pisses me off. It was a miserable, pauinful, time. Not sure if it shows in mny writing, but Im beating the fuck out of this keyboard. Fast forward some time later (I dont recall the exact time frames this was circa 2017-2018) or two after this went down. I was odering Kratom by the kilo. My kratom was set to be delivered one day and never shohwed up. On informed delivery it said "out for delivery" for several days. It was a numnber of days before I cojuld file for a lost package on USPS website. After those days elapsed, I filed for lost package. Later that day I received a call from the post master general at the post office. He said he had my package and it was stoppedd because igt was suspecgted narcotics. He told me I could come claim my Kratom. I went to the post office, and the post masyter general met me in the parking lot. He showed me myt bags of kratom, and explaoined to me that he had been watching my mail because I had 7 grams of cocaine sent to my address. I said "I don;'t know anything about that," he rolled his eyes and said, "look. it was last year. You can;t get in troubl;e for it. I'm telling you that's why I have been monitoring your mail. Don;'t have anymore narcotics sent to your house." I said "OK" and left with my Kratom. I stopped ordering anything after that. Moral of the story: they will eventaually x-ray what is coming through in USPS envelopes. Especially overnight, which I happened to order too frequently back then. If you get something from a vendor that is not x-ray proof, do not order from them again. X-ray proof is a must! Especially for powder or rock cocaine, or similar drugs. Stealth is good second to x-ray and decoy + steealtrh + x-ray proof is the best way to go. This is reddit...so flame on. Don't bother replying "this never happened," or "you're lying." No one needs to see that and it doesn't add to the discussion. Just down vote and move along. I'm sharing my experience in the hopes it may help someone. **Edit:** Stop nad think; why do you think vendors have learned over the years to use stealth and mylar bag insteaff of just stuffing druigs in an express envelope? They learned through trial and error. If mylar and stealth were not needed, do you really think they would use it?
That's about one of the dumbest full of shit stories on here, you know how many pieces of mail go through the post office everyday, you really think they xray that, post office doesn't give a shit what you mail , only way your getting caught is if package breaks open, stinks or somebody told em it was coming, the USPS is the biggest drug courier in the world
Your comment does not ad to the discussion here. That's why there are no responses to it. Like I said; donwn vorte and move on if you don't believe it. It happened as I say it happerned. Why do you think vendors have learned over the years to use mylar and stealth instead of just stuffing the drugs in an express envelope? You;re just another jackass that thinks he knows everything and orders very little in the grand scheme of things. My Coinbasse account shows thate I have bought over $100k in coin since the account inception. Those coins have all been spent on drugs. How much have you spent over the years? $10K? $20lk? Let me lonoww you get to my level, pal. I speculate on how they foud the drugs. Everything I said that happened, actually happened. I really don't give a fuck if you believe it or not. Down vote and move on. Your comment adds nothing to this conversaation. Users like you make Reddit a shitty place.
Your dealer uses lead shielding? Or tungsten? Your X ray statement is laughable. No, carbon paper does not block anything.
Think he means mylar bags there, brother. Pretty standard practice for DN vendors
How often are normal packages handled by USPS lined with mylar? If its unusual for a package to be lined with mylar it'll just make the package stand out, right?
Makes you wonder right?
Mylar
Mylar bags block x-ray.
Post office wouldn't knowingly deliver 7grams of coke that's breaking the law, they would tell police. This never happened and isn't even believable.
Your comment does not add to the discussion here. Like I said. Down vote and move on. I don;t give a fuck if you believe it or not. It happened as I say it happened.
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If there is insufficient postage or something they can do that. For example, if they sent a 2 lb package marked as one or something.
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Ages ago, it was a more common thing with USPS. COD - Cash On Delivery. TV ads for products you order by mail or phone would say “No COD” because, I assume, they knew too many people would not pay when the time came and/or USPS didn’t want to deal with a high volume of cash for thousands of garbage products.
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I've had USPS take cash for non questionable packages. Last week an ebay package. Didn't carry change either, asshole.
Sounds like a paranoia trip.
I’m sure it does. One package every 2 weeks of 200-400 benzos. I was a maniac. Tracking doesn’t lie
Hope you're OK
Yea 200-400 benzos is doin it big!
If you miss even one you’re probably gonna die or have to hit the ER. Benzo are fairly safe unless you suddenly withdraw without tapering off
Super long story short..after getting in trouble at work I was suspended for 2 weeks. I decided it was finally time I quit my benzo habit cold turkey. After 2 weeks withdrawal I was in psychosis, calling the police on myself at 3 am. I thought people were “defecating on my bed and living room furniture.” They took me to the hospital and they kept me in the psych ward for 3 days against my will. Clean ever since
No seizures? Are you okay now mentally?
Yea luckily no seizures. It was from a mix of 5-6 days no sleep and withdrawal. My neurologist said one more day in psychosis I would’ve been a schizophrenic catatonic. Yeah tho im back to normal now, no lifelong issues somehow lol
Holy shit bro. Glad you’re ok cause that’s definitely not something you would normally wanna do.
Thanks man I appreciate that. I’ve been super lucky
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I’d venture to guess very rarely. The feds are usually after the big fish. Not individual potheads and junkies 🤷🏾♂️
There is no point in boosting users, they are small fries and there are hundreds fold more users than sellers - perusing users would be impossible task and waste of Police budgets.
This is not certain but I believe that they don't bother with orders because they are small amounts going to nobody worthy of the laws attention, also I heard the other day that 1 in 6 packages in the USA have drugs in them so can't lose that much business and where I am in Australia it's a federal matter and they need a warrant to open it hardly worth the time or money so they incinerate it if detected, the last thing is if your digitally clean at home and they do a controlled drop they have no case if you say I wasn't expecting a package
Yes, sometimes it does happen. Here's two news articles where they mention having access to extensive buyers lists and now thousands of user across the globe are supposedly at risk. Stay safe. "The arrests took place in the United States (153), the United Kingdom (55), Germany (52), the Netherlands (10), Austria (9), France (5), Switzerland (2), Poland (1) and Brazil (1). A number of investigations to identify additional individuals behind dark web accounts are still ongoing. As law enforcement authorities gained access to the vendors’ extensive buyer lists, thousands of customers across the globe are now at risk of prosecution as well." https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/288-dark-web-vendors-arrested-in-major-marketplace-seizure "Federal agents executed a search warrant of LeCoque’s online vendor account and located information for 279 orders of illegal drugs from May 2020 to May 2021, including a total of 604 grams of methamphetamine and 234 grams of heroin." https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/02/29/dark-web-dealer-meth-heroin-heads-prison
My boy got busted, intl half ounce popular dissociative drug. After tearing the apartment to smithereens Had tobacco smoking pipe (used for tobacco), scales (told hia lawyer baking is a hobby)like 4 non narcotic unperscribed pills, and obvious cutting agents, Olde boy told em the inositol was daily vitamin he took and the Boric acid was because he had a pest infestation. Sentenced a year probation,,, weekly drug class for a year. Ordered to the same address ASAP after end of probation domestic, all ships land.
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I’ve known people to get busted ordering very small personal quantities
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I am user and get stated by the police be cause of ordering some stuff
Do they go after roid users that just get personal quantity? Curious bc I friend was asking about ordering stuff online and I didn’t know what to tell him
Yes all the time but its mostly because of a mistake they made like using a fake address or something stupid like that and the reason you dont hear about it is because its not news worthy and maybe makes the local paper at best. It has to be a significant amount to draw any real attention and most are less than the average busts local cops are making on your local roads so if you arent looking at arrest records all the time you will not see it.
They’ve never been busted. Safest place in the internet.
Never pick up. You have no idea what’s in it nor is it yours.
Have you ever got caught buying 20$ worth of weed ?
I’ve been ordering for 3/4 years, so I’m not exactly an OG, I’ve probably spent quite a few grand, max I ever order is a couple hundreds worth, hardly ever order internationally, never followed opsec or read a dark meh bible, and i’ve had no trouble. I’d just recommend ordering personal amounts, domestic only and you really won’t have an issue, the problems start when you are importing kilos of cocaine
Fifteen years ago the manager where I worked tried to get 1000 e pills. He got arrested. Don't know what happened past that
Ordered on dw from just after the Sr days. Had one international interception, got a love letter saying they had confiscated 2.09g of Heroin and it would be destroyed. Informed vendor, who then reshipped and package came through no problem. Have successfully ordered from that vendor many times since. Seriously some of you are **seriously** hyper paranoid. However if I was ordering larger quantities that could be interpreted as being for onward disruption I would absolutely have practiced better OpSec.
They looking for the big dawgs
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Simple answer - yes, and it might not even be your fault. I had a domestic package delivered with the worst stealth I've ever seen. Luckily I already had a legal prescription for the medication, but I couldn't get a refill until a certain date (should say I'm NL / EU). I keep my orders local now - ideally NL or Germany. Same country = minimal risk EU to EU = low risk UK to EU / vice versa = medium risk International should always be considered high risk and there's even different levels of risk IE ordering pills from NL to US/Aus etc I feel sorry for our friends in Aus and NZ - street prices are a joke. Thus I understand people that want to take the risk.
Yes, very rarly, though.
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users can get busted I remember reading an article about a guy getting busted for just buying stolen Netflix, Domino’s etc accounts off a DNM
Dnm?
Theres no news about them because the dnms are a fed entrapment and having articles about arrests would scare away their prey
Lol, maybe a fed fundraiser operation, but entrapment?? The last 13 or so years of many markets making billions and only a handful of arrests begs to differ
Never order to ur home address!
Yeah it's very likely, I once read a story about a redditor who bought few grams of weed from the darkweb (in my country weed it's still ilegal) and when the packege arrived, he opened it and it was tea. the next day he was raided by the police and been taken to the police station to interrogation so it's not always safe for buyers nor for sellers
never happened
[copy that story](https://www.reddit.com/r/buruieni/s/GvHNdCJTHn) on google translate or wherever you want and stop mispreading bullshit online
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