All Hail Orcus!
(Orcus was a god of the underworld, punisher of broken oaths in Etruscan and Roman mythology. As with Hades, the name of the god was also used for the underworld itself. Eventually, he was conflated with Dis Pater and Pluto.)
They were named after this guy.
Fun fact orcas are smart enough to know that humans are not very nutritional for them, which is why they never have any documented attacks on humans in the wild
We don't actually know the precise reason there are no documented attacks, that's merely a hypothesis, I wouldn't parade it around as absolute fact. Orcas have complex social structures and language, so there can be many reasons for it.
"No one would have believed, in the early years of the 21st century, that our world was being watched by intelligences greater than our own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns, they observed and studied, the way a man with a microscope might scrutinize the creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency, men went to and fro about the globe, confident of our empire over this world. Yet, across the ~~gulf of space~~ ocean, intellects vast and cruel and unsympathetic regarded our planet with envious eyes...and slowly, and surely, drew their plans against us."
They are a pretty similar size. T-Rex maybe longer cos thinner pointy tail but they are in the same weight class. This graphic is a bit weird cus the orca is also in a massively different weight class. It's like pointing out that an elephant is stronger than a buffalo.
Idk if I'm reading it wrong, but it says "PSI" or pounds per square inch.
Thus, if the Orca has a bigger mouth, it's actually even more insane, because it's multiplicative right? It has more square inches of mouth **and** higher PSI bite force. Or am I misunderstanding the scale here?
I haven't thought about that book in ages.
"If your cat is kneading you, that's not a sign of affection. Your cat is actually checking your internal organs for weakness. If your cat brings you a dead animal, this isn't a gift. It's a warning."
[How to Tell If Your Cat Is Plotting to Kill You](https://amzn.to/45P41hk)
Hi, physicist here.
OP claims that is strongest bite FORCE. However, a FORCE is an extensive unit measured in Newtons, or, if you are American, in pound-force. Pound-force is the force which 1 pound of mass affected by earths gravity at the surface of earth is experiencing due to the acceleration g. It's basically normed force of gravity. Since acceleration g is not uniform on the earths surface, a normed value for the acceleration is taken here as well, but that's beside the point.
OP specifically declares PSI as the unit. PSI is the unit of PRESSURE. Pressure is an intensive unit measured in Pascal = 1 Newton / m² or, if you are an american in pound-force per square inch. Pounds per square inch would be mass per area, which is nothing without the acceleration provided by gravity.
Considering that animals have different teeth structures, with different areas for each teeth and different amounts of teeth, the pressure will differ wildly. It is unclear what OP is comparing here. My assumption is, OP mixed up the units and meant to compare the actual extensive value of force.
Same applies for the value given for the car.
Edit: After having several discussions with various people started by my original comment, I have learned that:
* "Bite force" and "bite pressure" are separate existing terms. One describes the force of the bite and the other the pressure applied by the bite. That makes absolute sense to me.
* "Bite force" is sloppily used for both parameters depending on the context. In the context of a general picture on the funny red site, this makes no sense to me and I stand behind my original points.
Thanks for the discussion everyone, have a nice time of day.
Edit/Correction: As I'm not a biologist, I've done a mistake with this comment, which was pointed out to me in one of the threads. The 4700 bar of pressure snail teeth take is not the bite force, but a different parameter which I, quite honestly, did not understand right away, but should really go to bed now. I'm leaving the original comment here, so you can be a witness of my shame:
Random fact from the top of my head to visualize my point: Snails supposedly apply a pressure of up to 4700 bar on their food with their teeth, which is almost 69 thousand psi. I would still prefer to be bitten by a snail than a human.
[https://www.uni-kiel.de/en/details/news/054-snailteeth](https://www.uni-kiel.de/en/details/news/054-snailteeth)
you get that from swimming (in) or drinking water that is contaminated with the larvae of the parasite that’s causing this, the snails are just a host in this lifecycle.
considering human bites. you really do not want to have a human bite that managed to damage your skin. the mouth flora of a human has a quite infectious composition of bacteria hanging around (maybe a dentist or physician can elaborate further)
Hi physicist, engineer here.
While I know some people use the "pound mass" as a unit of mass, that's technically incorrect. The appropriate mass measurement in the Imperial system is a slug, which is roughly equal to 32 pounds.
A pound is a unit of force, so pounds per square inch would make perfect sense. There is no need to say "pounds-force" because all pounds are units of force unless otherwise noted. And again, I know some people do note that, but they're mostly either intentionally trying to be confusing (college professors) or don't understand the difference between weight and mass (most everyone else). Which incidentally, is where the confusion came from in the first place.
"A pound is a pound is a pound." - Dr. Olson, one of my college professors who hated the pound-mass.
Dude I hated pound force sections in my engineering classes. Such a waste of time and brain power to learn such a useless unit for a structural engineer.
Hey engineer, water department maintenance technician here
Those "flushable" wipes are not flushable. Neither is grease/crisco/lard, golf balls, hydraulic oil, barbie dolls, etc. You may be doing serious harm to the smooth operation of your collection system by flushing objects that do not belong there
(Old) Engineer as well, had a long argument about that a ounce of platinum was heavier than a ounce of feathers to my teacher. This was 40 years ago and I am still bitter.
For those confused precious metals are measured in Troy ounces, slightly heavier than a standard ounce. I live in Australia so ounces may have not have been their strong suit. There was no internet to prove my point.
Some might say that while you accurately differentiate between force and pressure, using PSI to discuss bite strength is appropriate and common. PSI provides a clearer comparative measure of bite effectiveness across different species, accounting for variations in tooth area and arrangement.
Maybe for determining punctures. But raw force output is still very much important. A hippo’s bite pressure of 1800 psi is very similar to a Jaguar at 1500 psi. That said, the cross sectional area of hippo teeth far exceeds a jaguars and the total force exerted is going to be orders of magnitude higher. I’d take my chances with the Jaguar, personally
Yep. I was lucky enough to see hippos, Nile Crocs, lions, and a leopard in the same day in Kenya. I'll take my chances with the leopard mostly because I'm pretty sure it wouldn't want anything to do with a person. The lions seemed like they'd be mostly disinterested. I wanted nothing to do with the two aquatic animals that day. There was a reason you had to have a ranger with a rifle with you while hiking along that river.
Thank you for clarifying it !!
I did some researches on the matter to find the bite force and not the pressure. Didn't find it, sadly everyone uses the pressure. However I came across this wikipédia article about Biting Force / size of the animal in Kg.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bite_force_quotient
I'm still mad that I didn't find the raw biting force. If you have please send a link ;)
That's always the problem isn't it, physicists making assumptions. You got the evidence right though. Yes, bite "force" is somewhat of a misnomer, but it is actually a measure of pressure, not force (it's divided by the bite contact area). In more rigorous publications you'll see "bite force" and "bite pressure" distinguished very carefully.
The car measure of 2500 psi is roughly correct. A car crusher generates over [2000 psi and 150 tons](https://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-crusher1.htm) of pressure and force respectively.
Hi, thanks for the explanation and the link.
I am deeply sorry, but I just can't help myself: Comparing hydrostatic pressure (car crusher) and uniaxial pressure (teeth) is a big big no-no in most cases. Pretty much very different ways the pressure is affecting the solid even for the most basic geometries. Literally cost me weeks of progress when I was a bachelor student and just applied hydrostatic pressure values from literature using a uniaxial press and couldn't figure out why my samples are falling apart several processing steps later.
Not saying it's right, saying that "2500 psi" taken out of context makes more sense than "2500 lbf" or "2500N" when talking about crushing cars. Your first comment was about the units being wrong, my comment was about the units being correct, just referred to wrongly as "force". And yes, I'm no physicist, but [the difference between the two](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1dsbfak/oc_animals_with_strongest_bite_force/lb1n9pd/) did come to mind. Some of my thinking about the other comment chain might have bled into my comments on yours.
However, while crocodilians have high bite force, they have very low strength when it comes to opening their jaws. All the power is in the bite. You can hold a croc's mouth shut with one hand.
Or, at least, you could if it wasn't for the rest of the animal attached to the mouth that probably doesn't care to have its jaws held shut.
If the goal is to cut through something, PSI is what matters. You can increase it either by adding more force or by having sharper teeth.
However it doesn't make sense for crushing, that's more about total force. So the car compactor doesn't belong in the graphic.
Hippos, my friend. They have those spears as teeth and are absolutely terrifying using their mouths regardless of having fewer teeth than all the other animals in this info graphic.
I was more thinking about getting rid of all your teeth except one upper and one lower tooth. Then all your jaw muscles could concentrate the force onto that one tooth pair!
But I suspect the teeth wouldn't like that very much.
I came here to say this too, " pounds per square inch"
I feel they are too high?
but I only say this because it looks disproportionate, due to the quantity of measurement
(Wow I got a really strong dejavu writing that!)
TIL "In fact, no dog breed has a jaw structure that functions like a locking mechanism. However, pit bulls do have strong jaw muscles and a powerful bite, similar to a German Shepherd's. When they bite down on something and are determined not to let go, it can appear as if they have a locking jaw. Pit bulls are also more likely than other breeds to grab onto something and shake it. "
Nope. Saw this in a Nova episode several years ago. A researcher with the human genome project found that all humans have the same birth defect from a broken gene pair or something like that. They figured out that it's related to bite strength; it's why our bite is so much weaker than other primates.
But here's the thing: in order to anchor and support those stronger biting muscles, the skulls of other apes have to fuse together earlier than humans and that prevents them growing bigger brains. Without that defect leading to weakened bite strength, we couldn't have become as smart of a species.
They’re called killer whales because it was a mistranslation of whale killer - because they kill whales. There have been no *confirmed* cases of orcas killing people in the wild. Which would probably already make them much safer than newer species such as bully XL’s. They actually have a part of the brain that is completely dedicated to social understanding, a part of the brain that humans don’t have. They’re incredibly complex creatures that don’t deserve any sort of slander, we could probably learn a lot from them
Yeah, it's just sloppy terminology. Bite "force" here really is bite pressure (which is meaningful, don't get me wrong), as opposed to actual force (which we also measure), while there's some discussion that what we actually care about is bite *torque*, and then there's fun stuff like [bite force quotient](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bite_force_quotient).
So are they measuring the cross-sectional area of the mouth or point of bite contact (teeth). Does homeless guy with 1 toof have higher bite pressure? I have a feeling they are measuring force, not pressure, but used pressure units.
Plus, when you see the comparison, 2500 psi to crush a car. 2500 lb makes sense, psi doesnt
Yes, pressure *should* be calculated by dividing over the bite contact area. Yes, someone with one tooth will have a higher bite pressure. Each measure has its own pros and cons.
Here's a fun description of several ways of measuring it for humans (search "bite pressure"):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5713870/
For a couple of studies where they measure *force* and report in Newtons:
https://journals.biologists.com/jeb/article/226/7/jeb245255/306239/Measurement-of-voluntary-bite-forces-in-large
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5932386/
Interesting data, but I wish it was sorted. Parsing the data in this format takes longer than optimal. "Pretty" is only good as long as it doesn't interfere with "useful".
I don’t think this actually means the orca can crush the shit out of the car, it could easily tear meat sure. But biting down on a body of metal with full force of 2880000 lbs will probably incapacitate them. Same way that a jet pilot can’t 10000 mph just because it can
If this is accurate, and we're going on bite force alone, I'd be better off simultaneously fighting a nile crocodile, a hippo, a grizzly bear, a polar bear, a jaguar, a great white shark, an alligator, a gorilla, and a human person than I would fighting a single orca.
More fake news - this graph omits the obvious #1 contender - squirrels 😂
(But seriously, an adult Eastern Gray Squirrel has a bite force of up to 22,000 psi!)
so an orca can crush a car. That is of course the reason we use a boat when we go sail the sea.
They’re literally attacking boats and ripping the rudders off.
They’re really orcanized.
They are orcastrasting the crime
Orcastrasting the crime or castrating you
Orcanized crime
An hour late there bud
Been saving that one in his pocket since the last time he saw it and fumbled the opportunity
Guess I’m at a loss of how I fumbled the opportunity?
https://youtu.be/_Yhyp-_hX2s?feature=shared
Shoulda let the moment come up orcanically
Mom said to get off the Internet
You could almost say they're doing it on porpoise.
That is one specific group of Orca’s. Certainly not normal behavior, in general, for them.
Orcas doing the Lord’s work
What do you mean? They're not attacking large polluting oil tankers. They're usually sinking small sail boats
Orcas sunk a 50 foot yacht last May. I don’t consider that to be small or a sail boat.
All Hail Orcus! (Orcus was a god of the underworld, punisher of broken oaths in Etruscan and Roman mythology. As with Hades, the name of the god was also used for the underworld itself. Eventually, he was conflated with Dis Pater and Pluto.) They were named after this guy.
lol yes unless they’re attacking my baby seals or penguins. Imo it’s only a matter of time before they start nibbling on surfers toesies.
>it’s only a matter of time before they start nibbling on surfers toesies. After the first one that only means one thing: invasion.
They like great white shark liver.
Fun fact orcas are smart enough to know that humans are not very nutritional for them, which is why they never have any documented attacks on humans in the wild
We don't actually know the precise reason there are no documented attacks, that's merely a hypothesis, I wouldn't parade it around as absolute fact. Orcas have complex social structures and language, so there can be many reasons for it.
They made sure there were no witnesses.
They are organized enough to hide all human attacks and probably have a strong lobby to stop all the investigations
"No one would have believed, in the early years of the 21st century, that our world was being watched by intelligences greater than our own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns, they observed and studied, the way a man with a microscope might scrutinize the creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency, men went to and fro about the globe, confident of our empire over this world. Yet, across the ~~gulf of space~~ ocean, intellects vast and cruel and unsympathetic regarded our planet with envious eyes...and slowly, and surely, drew their plans against us."
Hands up if you heard this in Orson Welles' voice.
Dumm, dumm, DUM
I thought it was quite smart actually.
It's because they've seen what we can do, and they're smart enough to draw their own conclusions
This is the most likely hypothesis, yes. It wasn't that long ago that whaling was one of the world's largest industries.
There are, however, well-documented attacks on humans by orcas in captivity
Probably already have its just they know not to leave witnesses
Apparently an orca has greater bite force than even a T-Rex. Mammals are pretty cool.
They are a pretty similar size. T-Rex maybe longer cos thinner pointy tail but they are in the same weight class. This graphic is a bit weird cus the orca is also in a massively different weight class. It's like pointing out that an elephant is stronger than a buffalo.
Idk if I'm reading it wrong, but it says "PSI" or pounds per square inch. Thus, if the Orca has a bigger mouth, it's actually even more insane, because it's multiplicative right? It has more square inches of mouth **and** higher PSI bite force. Or am I misunderstanding the scale here?
thanks dad
We need more orcas on land then.
Why is my cat not in this list?
Is your cat secretly an orca in a cat costume?
He is not hiding his murderous intentions very well.
I haven't thought about that book in ages. "If your cat is kneading you, that's not a sign of affection. Your cat is actually checking your internal organs for weakness. If your cat brings you a dead animal, this isn't a gift. It's a warning." [How to Tell If Your Cat Is Plotting to Kill You](https://amzn.to/45P41hk)
🎶🎶She wants me dead🎶🎶
That would explain the huge ass dorsal fin.
You got me curious, so I looked it up. Housecats are around 60-65 psi and dogs (German Shepard in this case) are up to 250.
I too was looking for a cat or dog just to see how they rate to the bigger beasts.
Because Fluffy has a built-in emergency release lever
Hi, physicist here. OP claims that is strongest bite FORCE. However, a FORCE is an extensive unit measured in Newtons, or, if you are American, in pound-force. Pound-force is the force which 1 pound of mass affected by earths gravity at the surface of earth is experiencing due to the acceleration g. It's basically normed force of gravity. Since acceleration g is not uniform on the earths surface, a normed value for the acceleration is taken here as well, but that's beside the point. OP specifically declares PSI as the unit. PSI is the unit of PRESSURE. Pressure is an intensive unit measured in Pascal = 1 Newton / m² or, if you are an american in pound-force per square inch. Pounds per square inch would be mass per area, which is nothing without the acceleration provided by gravity. Considering that animals have different teeth structures, with different areas for each teeth and different amounts of teeth, the pressure will differ wildly. It is unclear what OP is comparing here. My assumption is, OP mixed up the units and meant to compare the actual extensive value of force. Same applies for the value given for the car. Edit: After having several discussions with various people started by my original comment, I have learned that: * "Bite force" and "bite pressure" are separate existing terms. One describes the force of the bite and the other the pressure applied by the bite. That makes absolute sense to me. * "Bite force" is sloppily used for both parameters depending on the context. In the context of a general picture on the funny red site, this makes no sense to me and I stand behind my original points. Thanks for the discussion everyone, have a nice time of day.
Edit/Correction: As I'm not a biologist, I've done a mistake with this comment, which was pointed out to me in one of the threads. The 4700 bar of pressure snail teeth take is not the bite force, but a different parameter which I, quite honestly, did not understand right away, but should really go to bed now. I'm leaving the original comment here, so you can be a witness of my shame: Random fact from the top of my head to visualize my point: Snails supposedly apply a pressure of up to 4700 bar on their food with their teeth, which is almost 69 thousand psi. I would still prefer to be bitten by a snail than a human. [https://www.uni-kiel.de/en/details/news/054-snailteeth](https://www.uni-kiel.de/en/details/news/054-snailteeth)
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> I would still prefer to be bitten by a snail than a human. do you want to get Schistosomiasis? Because this is how you get Schistosomiasis
you get that from swimming (in) or drinking water that is contaminated with the larvae of the parasite that’s causing this, the snails are just a host in this lifecycle. considering human bites. you really do not want to have a human bite that managed to damage your skin. the mouth flora of a human has a quite infectious composition of bacteria hanging around (maybe a dentist or physician can elaborate further)
Hi physicist, engineer here. While I know some people use the "pound mass" as a unit of mass, that's technically incorrect. The appropriate mass measurement in the Imperial system is a slug, which is roughly equal to 32 pounds. A pound is a unit of force, so pounds per square inch would make perfect sense. There is no need to say "pounds-force" because all pounds are units of force unless otherwise noted. And again, I know some people do note that, but they're mostly either intentionally trying to be confusing (college professors) or don't understand the difference between weight and mass (most everyone else). Which incidentally, is where the confusion came from in the first place. "A pound is a pound is a pound." - Dr. Olson, one of my college professors who hated the pound-mass.
Hi engineer, computer scientist here. I have nothing to contribute.
Dude I hated pound force sections in my engineering classes. Such a waste of time and brain power to learn such a useless unit for a structural engineer.
Hey engineer, water department maintenance technician here Those "flushable" wipes are not flushable. Neither is grease/crisco/lard, golf balls, hydraulic oil, barbie dolls, etc. You may be doing serious harm to the smooth operation of your collection system by flushing objects that do not belong there
Just heard about fatbergs. :-O
(Old) Engineer as well, had a long argument about that a ounce of platinum was heavier than a ounce of feathers to my teacher. This was 40 years ago and I am still bitter. For those confused precious metals are measured in Troy ounces, slightly heavier than a standard ounce. I live in Australia so ounces may have not have been their strong suit. There was no internet to prove my point.
Some might say that while you accurately differentiate between force and pressure, using PSI to discuss bite strength is appropriate and common. PSI provides a clearer comparative measure of bite effectiveness across different species, accounting for variations in tooth area and arrangement.
Maybe for determining punctures. But raw force output is still very much important. A hippo’s bite pressure of 1800 psi is very similar to a Jaguar at 1500 psi. That said, the cross sectional area of hippo teeth far exceeds a jaguars and the total force exerted is going to be orders of magnitude higher. I’d take my chances with the Jaguar, personally
Yep. I was lucky enough to see hippos, Nile Crocs, lions, and a leopard in the same day in Kenya. I'll take my chances with the leopard mostly because I'm pretty sure it wouldn't want anything to do with a person. The lions seemed like they'd be mostly disinterested. I wanted nothing to do with the two aquatic animals that day. There was a reason you had to have a ranger with a rifle with you while hiking along that river.
PSI is never and cannot ever be a measure of force just like miles per hour cannot be a length.
Thank you for clarifying it !! I did some researches on the matter to find the bite force and not the pressure. Didn't find it, sadly everyone uses the pressure. However I came across this wikipédia article about Biting Force / size of the animal in Kg. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bite_force_quotient I'm still mad that I didn't find the raw biting force. If you have please send a link ;)
Tasmanian Devil W Quolls are also awesome and they deserve more love.
I envision me standing next to an Orca with my tire gauge now… and wondering why it’s pushing the entire stick out every time
That's always the problem isn't it, physicists making assumptions. You got the evidence right though. Yes, bite "force" is somewhat of a misnomer, but it is actually a measure of pressure, not force (it's divided by the bite contact area). In more rigorous publications you'll see "bite force" and "bite pressure" distinguished very carefully. The car measure of 2500 psi is roughly correct. A car crusher generates over [2000 psi and 150 tons](https://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-crusher1.htm) of pressure and force respectively.
Hi, thanks for the explanation and the link. I am deeply sorry, but I just can't help myself: Comparing hydrostatic pressure (car crusher) and uniaxial pressure (teeth) is a big big no-no in most cases. Pretty much very different ways the pressure is affecting the solid even for the most basic geometries. Literally cost me weeks of progress when I was a bachelor student and just applied hydrostatic pressure values from literature using a uniaxial press and couldn't figure out why my samples are falling apart several processing steps later.
Not saying it's right, saying that "2500 psi" taken out of context makes more sense than "2500 lbf" or "2500N" when talking about crushing cars. Your first comment was about the units being wrong, my comment was about the units being correct, just referred to wrongly as "force". And yes, I'm no physicist, but [the difference between the two](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1dsbfak/oc_animals_with_strongest_bite_force/lb1n9pd/) did come to mind. Some of my thinking about the other comment chain might have bled into my comments on yours.
You are absolutely right! I get so much feedback on this one comment, I'm starting to lose continuity. Anyways, thanks for the discussion
Yeah I thought so because I’m fairly sure the crocodile has the strongest bite force of any animal
so what you’re saying is 250 humans working together could chew a car
And 9 women working together can get through a pregnancy in one month.
We can get this done, but it's going to take more money and different politicians.
However, while crocodilians have high bite force, they have very low strength when it comes to opening their jaws. All the power is in the bite. You can hold a croc's mouth shut with one hand. Or, at least, you could if it wasn't for the rest of the animal attached to the mouth that probably doesn't care to have its jaws held shut.
We all learned this when we were young kids and really into crocodiles.
Psi seems like an odd unit to use? If you have pointy teeth it lowers the surface area and would increase the psi.
If the goal is to cut through something, PSI is what matters. You can increase it either by adding more force or by having sharper teeth. However it doesn't make sense for crushing, that's more about total force. So the car compactor doesn't belong in the graphic.
> You can increase it either by adding more force or by having sharper teeth. Or fewer teeth... But I don't think that would actually be helpful.
Hippos, my friend. They have those spears as teeth and are absolutely terrifying using their mouths regardless of having fewer teeth than all the other animals in this info graphic.
I was more thinking about getting rid of all your teeth except one upper and one lower tooth. Then all your jaw muscles could concentrate the force onto that one tooth pair! But I suspect the teeth wouldn't like that very much.
I came here to say this too, " pounds per square inch" I feel they are too high? but I only say this because it looks disproportionate, due to the quantity of measurement (Wow I got a really strong dejavu writing that!)
Wow, 1 normal comment. Thank you stranger
And it's a shit unit
Is the orca bite pressure stat a recent discovery? I remember seeing lists like these frequently and the crocodiles would always be on top.
Don't hyaenas also have a crazy high bite force?
The only bite stronger than an Orca is a Crisp cold refreshing Barq’s©️ Root beer on a hot summers day
Pit bulls conspicuous in their absence
While they have a nice bite force, isnt their impressive bite noteworthy more for the locking jaw?
me when i spread misinformation on the internet. there's no such thing as a "locking jaw" in any breed of dog
TIL "In fact, no dog breed has a jaw structure that functions like a locking mechanism. However, pit bulls do have strong jaw muscles and a powerful bite, similar to a German Shepherd's. When they bite down on something and are determined not to let go, it can appear as if they have a locking jaw. Pit bulls are also more likely than other breeds to grab onto something and shake it. "
Cool, just need 15 homies to help me bite the hell out of my ex's car.
TIL everything is the consistency of butter to an orca.
A leopard seal has 6000 psi and is missing.
And hyenas, with around 4500 psi
I have a macaw... that's all the bite force I need to deal with.
Can human beat any of these with a sword?
Humans have killed everything in this picture with sticks.
Boy humans suck, we need a patch asap Edit: why are you taking this seriously lmao
Nope. Saw this in a Nova episode several years ago. A researcher with the human genome project found that all humans have the same birth defect from a broken gene pair or something like that. They figured out that it's related to bite strength; it's why our bite is so much weaker than other primates. But here's the thing: in order to anchor and support those stronger biting muscles, the skulls of other apes have to fuse together earlier than humans and that prevents them growing bigger brains. Without that defect leading to weakened bite strength, we couldn't have become as smart of a species.
Nerf humans
Shouldn't those wild dogs in Australia be on the list?
Dingoes. They're equal to the Jaguar.
Tassie Devils should be too
God, I wish they used newtons of force instead of PSI.
Didn't notice what sub this was at first, and just assumed it was in r/dndmemes as a guide for shape-shifting and summoning animal companions.
I love how adorable and cute the perception a lot of humans have of Orcas. But in the wild they are absolutely smart, dicks, and assholes
We do call them killer whales
They’re called killer whales because it was a mistranslation of whale killer - because they kill whales. There have been no *confirmed* cases of orcas killing people in the wild. Which would probably already make them much safer than newer species such as bully XL’s. They actually have a part of the brain that is completely dedicated to social understanding, a part of the brain that humans don’t have. They’re incredibly complex creatures that don’t deserve any sort of slander, we could probably learn a lot from them
They kill basically everything except for humans
Humans basically kill everything including humans
They are dicks though. The throw seals around like footballs for fun.
Orcas are such magnificent creatures…
They forgot to add "Me at Taco Bell" to the list.
Wouldn't sperm whales have superior bite force?
How much psi when I’m chewing gum and bite my lip?
So 10 human bits equal 1 hippo bits
Maybe my response for “most irrational fear” being orcas isn’t so irrational, Susie, who decided to eviscerate my life when she sent her ‘like.
So by this 'data' orca can crush a car. Go on, tell me how humanity isn't hopeless.
Don't park your car in the ocean.
In a triathlon, they would win with swimming. We inherently run better. So it would come down to whoever rides a bike better.
So bears.
Bears can also swim so a bear could legit win a triathlon.
Bears can also illegitimately win a triathlon by mauling the other racers first.
Still legit - "mauling competitors" is not listed in the rules!
Only in Russia
Yeah, it's just sloppy terminology. Bite "force" here really is bite pressure (which is meaningful, don't get me wrong), as opposed to actual force (which we also measure), while there's some discussion that what we actually care about is bite *torque*, and then there's fun stuff like [bite force quotient](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bite_force_quotient).
So are they measuring the cross-sectional area of the mouth or point of bite contact (teeth). Does homeless guy with 1 toof have higher bite pressure? I have a feeling they are measuring force, not pressure, but used pressure units. Plus, when you see the comparison, 2500 psi to crush a car. 2500 lb makes sense, psi doesnt
Yes, pressure *should* be calculated by dividing over the bite contact area. Yes, someone with one tooth will have a higher bite pressure. Each measure has its own pros and cons. Here's a fun description of several ways of measuring it for humans (search "bite pressure"): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5713870/ For a couple of studies where they measure *force* and report in Newtons: https://journals.biologists.com/jeb/article/226/7/jeb245255/306239/Measurement-of-voluntary-bite-forces-in-large https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5932386/
Beautiful design that instantly makes the dataset not only understandable but fun! Bravo!
Interesting data, but I wish it was sorted. Parsing the data in this format takes longer than optimal. "Pretty" is only good as long as it doesn't interfere with "useful".
does that mean that it takes around 16 humans to crush a car by biting?
Where alligator snapping turtle
What is the area for this pressure?
645.16 mm^2
So it takes about 16 humans to bite through a car?
Gosh, now I know why I didn’t think it was an orca. It’s out of the charts.
But like what was their prey that they needed that for?
Why is it widely said that Saltwater crocodiles have the strongest bite?
What is the source of this information?
These same numbers have been floating around for at least a decade with no real source (which neither of the two named sites are) to back them up.
i just read about silver backs having stronger bite force than great whites wtf
BRB - going to collect 118 more humans. That orca is toast!
Huh…am i the only one surprised by the orca’s bite force?
i wish the "to crush a car" was also a circle in a different color, so make comparison easier
Glad to see they actually included the king in this. For some reason orcas get left out of these "strongest bite force" lists frequently.
Important to point out that several of these have never been tested and are based purely on simulations built around the animals cranial anatomy.
Orca are scary as hell, they are intelligent, fast, strong, and can crush cars....
hyacinth macaw is somewhere in the thousands. tragic.
What software is used to make charts like this?
How do they get those measurements?
Really thought the Tasmanian Devil would be on this list.
Is there a bite to size ratio chart?
Pretty sure pitbulls have around 230 psi bite force.
Now the true question: What do each of these animals have to bite to experience the crispness of a Pringle?
Killa whales over here bite-mogging all these other bite-virgins. Keep mewing, great white sharks!
What about snapping turtle
Data is beautiful, but not in 17th century units.
getting nibbled by a orca <3
I don’t think this actually means the orca can crush the shit out of the car, it could easily tear meat sure. But biting down on a body of metal with full force of 2880000 lbs will probably incapacitate them. Same way that a jet pilot can’t 10000 mph just because it can
I remember watching a wholeee hour long thing on animal planet about bite force, but they stopped at crocodiles 😯
An orca bite harder than a t-rex (12,000). Scary
wonder what the smallest animals with the most bite force are 🤔
So, if I'm reading this chart right, it would take about 15 humans to crush a car with their mouth.
Beautiful and unbelievably smart/powerful. I love these creatures! I don’t blame them for sinking sail boats lol
If this is accurate, and we're going on bite force alone, I'd be better off simultaneously fighting a nile crocodile, a hippo, a grizzly bear, a polar bear, a jaguar, a great white shark, an alligator, a gorilla, and a human person than I would fighting a single orca.
Bro forgot macaws. Those guys got power
More fake news - this graph omits the obvious #1 contender - squirrels 😂 (But seriously, an adult Eastern Gray Squirrel has a bite force of up to 22,000 psi!)
What the hell do they need this for? Why did they evolve to crush boulders with their teeth?
Orcas really are modern dinosaurs. Check out this orca skeleton. https://imgur.com/a/pD0R7JB
No wonder they can rip the livers right out of great white sharks
Gorgeous data presentation. Clear, clever, and those animals look like they’re smiling! Cute and smart. Thank you!
Pound for pound, the Tasmanian Devil has the strongest bite.
Orcas fuck so hard, but sound like squeaky toys...