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BeamTeam032

We talk about ideas, not people.


FreshBert

I'm sweating looking at that outfit. Fetterman's a big guy and DC is humid af.


DionBlaster123

i'm glad i don't live in D.C. between the humidity and the fact that it seems to be the only place left in America where you're required to wear a suit and tie to work every day...my dry cleaning bills would be freakish lol


ProfessionalCamera50

polyester fabric šŸ™


broadfuckingcity

Seersucker as well


KindFlows

Game recognizes game


djb185

Wearing a hoodie in mid June in DC is insane. Adding a tie is on a whole other level.


ghobhohi

And adding a suit jacket too is also insane.


SmoltzforAlexander

Republicans donā€™t actually like Fetterman, they just think they can use him to create division in the Democratic Party. Ā  Rubin is doing what his party bosses are telling him to do. Ā He never strays from the script.Ā 


Trout-Population

Uh, maybe? Idk I think the recent Republican love of John is genuine. Been seeing a lot of them hope he switches parties.


supamario132

Why? He's not useful to them as a Republican. His tenure in office hinges on him running against Mehmet Oz


Trout-Population

Fetterman switching to the GOP would be incredibly useful to them. It would give them another US Senator and a leg up in winning this seat in 2028.


SandersDelendaEst

John is not anywhere close to a conservative. This is extremely wishful thinking on their part


Trout-Population

He is running for re-election in four years, which is a long time for him to change his opinions even further. Also, I feel like if he does decide to switch parties, it will be out of survival rather than ideology. We had a GOP Senator a few years back named Arlen Specter who knew he was going to lose renomination so he switched parties to try his luck in the Dem primary. It failed, because PA Dems wanted an actual Democrat to run, but even so, the primary was close. John's popular in GOP circles and is getting vilified in liberal circles. I think his path of least resistance to another term would either be through the GOP, or to, you know, stop being a fucking idiot.


SandersDelendaEst

There were other reasons Arlen Specter loss. Like Joe Sestak ruining things after Obama had stuck his neck out for Specter. I would bet a decent amount of money that Fetterman is not going to switch parties. Like $1000 if given the chance. Heā€™s also much more popular with democrats than you think. Heā€™s not going to face a serious Democratic challenger. Some loser from the AOC left who gets 15% of the vote. If the squad canā€™t beat George Latimer IN NEW YORK over Israel, they arenā€™t going to stand A CHANCE in Pennsylvania.


Trout-Population

Things have the potential to change over four years, but right now if someone like Summer Lee ran (essentially PA's AOC, happens to be from John's hometown), she would probably lose a primary against him. It would have to be a big name, more moderate Dem. My dream candidate would Matt Cartwright.


couplemore1923

How is it that PA with a population of nearly 13,000,000 leaves voters having choose between likes of Oz and Fetterman? (Yes I know same problem exists national level presidential candidates)


supamario132

IMO its simply because it takes so much money to campaign that people rarely win without either DNC or RNC funding and they would never support


couplemore1923

We desperately need new political parties. Between special interest groups having hijacked DNC RNC and fact we have diverse population over 330 million citizens the 2 political party system isnā€™t working. We need IMO two additional political parties otherwise weā€™re headed serious trouble near future.


supamario132

Ranked choice voting is an immediate improvement that should be in every election. It's why Sarah Palin isn't still haunting the halls of power


couplemore1923

Ranked Voting certainly helps voters better understand the candidates but end of the day special interest groups/higher ups DNC RNC still wield incredibly unhealthy influence over our congressional members so few willing go against them. Two new political parties started clean with connections only to their voters we could start to salvage our democracy.


fuckswithboats

Ranked Choice Voting Publicly Funded Elections Fuck Parties Vote on Ideas Build Coalitions to Move Ideas Forward


couplemore1923

Add in Election Day as a national holiday. Also serious promotion of Primary Day, Here NY we have extremely low turnouts for Primary Day. (DNC RNC both want low turnouts for Primary Days)


supamario132

Yeah but implementing ranked choice is actually doable. Convincing the two parties to dissolve of their own volition will never be electorally possible


couplemore1923

Wouldnā€™t ask the DNC RNC to change, what we need two new political parties clean slate. In perfect scenario one left one right. Everyday Americans becoming more more aware that Uber wealthy/special interest groups not only controlling our politicians but destroying our democracy.


DionBlaster123

they have been saying this for decades now and i've always said that the way the election system works pretty much prevents third parties in the U.S. from being anything other than a way for leftists to hand the Republican Party multiple wins (see 2000 and 2016)


thehungarianhammer

Because Fetterman had some progressive street cred until the Tree of Life shooting and 10/7, then he decided AIPACā€™s money was more important - heā€™s a mediocre nepo baby who was going through a progressive phase anyway - now that heā€™s on the government teat, heā€™s gonna be just another neoliberal puppet. And because republicans ran terrible candidates and their voters just went on name recognition - theyā€™re running another carpetbagger this cycle, and itā€™s a guy that LOST to Oz in the primary last go around. And once again, their voters wonā€™t care that heā€™s a hedge fund guy who doesnā€™t live near them or care about them.


DionBlaster123

I'm getting very strong Tulsi Gabbard-esque vibes from Fetterman i remember back in 2016...Tulsi was one of the most vocal Bernie supporters, and she even did a song and dance at the DNC to decry what was basically just a sham coronation for Hillary Clinton but then look at the route she went. I wouldn't be shocked if Fetterman does the same fucking thing


Objective-Insect-839

I mean, America's population is 320 million, and we get to choose between Biden and Trump.


BigBowl-O-Supe

I like Fetterman


couplemore1923

The verbiage Fetterman uses defending Netanyahuā€™s Govt that of a fanatic which is a deal breaker for me.


BigBowl-O-Supe

What has he said that makes him sound like a fanatic? I'm open to hearing information that I haven't before that might change my mind about him.


naetron

Because they're morons that saw one quote out of context. He's still very solidly a Democrat.


Trout-Population

It's far more than one quote, but yeah, his voting record is still very liberal on nearly every issues besides the border and Israel.


ghobhohi

Is there a way to see Congressmen/Senator voting records?


TheOneAndOnlyNeruu

yeah its not very fun finding what youre looking for but its all online and available. one place to start is https://www.senate.gov/legislative/votes_new.htm


houstonyoureaproblem

Agree with the first part, disagree with the second. Dave isn't getting a script from anyone. He's a nobody. Everything he does is an attempt to gain traction online with people who are willing to send him money, i.e. right wingers. He's desperate for relevance.


war_m0nger69

I think plenty of centrist Republicans like him well enough. Probably similar to how centrist Democrats liked McCain. I'm Independent and I like him a lot - not from Pennsylvania but would vote for him for sure.


[deleted]

They were of course apoplectic at him simply wearing shorts a few months ago and said he was clearly the most mentally unfit Democrat. Now of course, all that has changed is his position on genocide.


Felix_Leiter1953

Ah, the coveted Dave Rubin endorsement. Dave "Kingmaker" Rubin.


adifferentviewforyou

Go through Dave's Twitter for last 48 hrs and take a shot anytime he mentions being sane


LionelHutzinVA

I feel like Dave has a Word-of-the-Day calendar and ā€œsaneā€ came up recently. Hence is need to work it into EVERY discussion


metalshoes

He is literally shaking with sanity right now.


ghobhohi

My Wife tried this out and now she's black out drunk and she's not responding.


Avantasian538

The sanest Democrat is AOC but Dave would never admit it.


Visible_Season8074

Being pro-bombing kids = Sane.


BeamTeam032

Republicans don't care about kids. They would rather kids starve than raise taxes on the 1%. You'll never convince people, especially people who don't care about kids, that Israel is doing the wrong thing.


Such-Letterhead4294

Youā€™ll never live down the absolute a$$hattery youā€™ve demonstrated here and elsewhere on Reddit. The internet is forever friend, and you have beclowned yourself. Iā€™m šŸ’ÆšŸ’Æ you donā€™t vote, nor ever have. Go back to sucking your thumb and building your pocket pu$$y for the week


doofer20

There must be a gas leak in here. This canary is going crazy


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BeamTeam032

lmao, Oh i absolutely vote, though I'm in CA, so my vote doesn't really matter. I've voted in every single election, I've even voted for school board. lmao. And this is reddit. All I would have to do, is log out, create a new gmail and never log into this account again. You're almost as brain dead as the guy who had a stroke.


RonnieJamesFio

Take your fuckin meds boomer, reading this gave me a bigger stroke than Fetterman


CollinABullock

Legitimately what are you talking about?


Such-Letterhead4294

Being pro-terrorist = fuc%ing loser


GoRangers5

Noa's home.


HickoryCreekTN

Iā€™m glad for her. Can we quit killing kids now?


KayserFuzz

He literally is in the "Why I left the left" pipeline and had admitted that the brain injury he got from the car crash he was found at fault for, is the reason for why he's leaning more to the right. Edit: Forgor about the stroke, THEN the car crash


SilentCicada9294

Literally brain broken


YourphobiaMyfetish

I remembered after his stroke all the Republicans were laughing about how Democrats all have broken brains... then started praising Fetterman when he suddenly took a hard shift right...


Daryno90

He said the stroke is what made him conservative, if we are lucky, the car crash will reverse the brain damage


KayserFuzz

Thaaaats it, forgot about the stroke somehow, yeah hopefully.


hoothizz

Republicans are so funny


MrSchmeat

He has LITERAL brain damage.


catsandchexmix

Fun fact he said that brain damage made him more Centerest the best clip i could find https://youtu.be/Mx5tY3O4skw?si=p5YSJj7SFjdU3eXI


MrSchmeat

I mean it definitely turned him more Zionist, thatā€™s for sure


shermstix1126

Anyone else find it funny that Fetterman had a stroke that led to permanent brain damage and took a hard right turn shortly thereafter?


Otherwise-Wash-4568

Man. They hated this guy a while ago


Mean_Web_1744

The stroke turned him into a genocidal maniac.


steelydanfan69420

Only took brain damage from a stroke to see things from the right side.


I_Vecna

Like Hack to know if someone sucks; Dave endorses them.


ghobhohi

He isn't endorsing John though, he's giving a back handed compliment towards him.


Toefudo

Dave "Hard R" Reuben


JackKovack

https://images.app.goo.gl/7MMw1f23TPH8W51N6


walman93

Until he remembers Fetterman still agrees with 90% of the party platform Fetterman would chew Rubin up and spit him out


Slooters313

He's closer to being the Marjorie of Dems


ClimateBall

Edgelords are now real.


12BarsFromMars

Even the lamest of Democrats is head and shoulders about you Rubin, youā€™re an imbecile


WillOrmay

That suit hoodie is actually based


homebrew_1

The people that listen to rubin for news are pretty dumb.


[deleted]

Dave wants to blow him.


eurekashairloaves

I don't think he could name 10 Dem senators


FeatureAvailable5494

Must be that brain damage


Myko475

Heā€™s a big ol bag of nothingness. Oh and he dressed like an idiot.


giracello92

Dave Rubin is a liar šŸ¤„ He goes on his show to tell everyone heā€™s having a baby with his HUSBAND. The magats blow his stream up that day. Dave Rubinā€™s IQ might be below 50 Trump for prison 2024


flowstuff

self hating gay man said what!?


ExpressionOk7431

I love him!


SpiderDeUZ

He says one thing taken out of context and suddenly the sides switch on him.


Ramblinrambles

Funny how he hated him when he didnā€™t realize he was faking being a progressive. Looks like he found a real kindred spirit


bmillent2

I always heard he just doesn't want to be labeled as a Progressive, are there certain positions he's switched on or something?


Daryno90

Dude ran on being a progressive actually, many who campaigned for him felt betrayed by him.


bmillent2

I understand that, but then after a while it seems like he just doesn't care about the Progressive Label so much, but did he change his views on anything? If he actually hasn't changed his views in anything I don't really understand why people feel betrayed


Daryno90

Well I havenā€™t followed him much but from my understanding, members from his staff from the start quit because Fetterman apparently back down from some of his stances that he ran on


[deleted]

It takes a fully brainless man to be looked up to by the right wing nutters. This guy is a trashy sellout.


GoRangers5

Next President


Trout-Population

Two years ago I was saying this. Not now I'm afraid.


Hairwaves

This faux suit hoodie shit is so stupid. What is this the third time he's done a toungue in cheek hoodie suit combination? Just wear one or the other! Election time is over, enough with the attention seeking meme shit. Also is he like medically required to wear a hoodie?


Transcendshaman90

Ah the flip publicans...... Rare but thriving phenotype


EccentricAcademic

People suffering brain damage seem to become more conservative.


KingRoach

Hamas was labeled a terrorist organization when JF was a child and has been considered a terrorist organization his entire adult life. Are we suprised heā€™s on the side of the country thatā€™s fighting the terrorist organization?


MadOvid

Someone needs to remind him what happened to the gay people who supported the Nazis.