IF there's a split up ahead on your side of the cones, the left lane is relevant to you seeing as the sign is to your left and you're on that side of the cones. So straight on is the first of two lanes at the split.
That’s a shit show. I would probably use the left lane because it’s what you would do for straight on if there were no other instructions, and these instructions basically add up to zero. But obviously you need to be very aware of people in the right lane and ready to evade.
Maybe someone trained/skilled in law can better answer...
But my crude understanding is that if signs did not fully comply with TSRGD, then by definition they could not be considered as legal road signs.
Until one guy seriously took the mickey (The Parking Adjudicator and Sunderland City Council on the application of Herron [2010]), then the concept of "Substantial Compliance" became a precedent for these kind of cases where a defective sign is still considered legal if the intent is still obviously understood by anyone who would have understood a fully compliant sign.
Narrowed to one lane or still two? If there’s space for two cars straight over then it doesn’t really matter which sign you follow because no one’s crossing over anyone else
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This seems to be a future 3 entry lanes roundabout, but only lanes #1 and #2 are available now, so you go left and straight from 1st lane and you turn right from the 2nd.
I assume the right hand sign is used when the traffic is allowed on the other side of the cones, using entry lanes #2 and #3 and then you go left from lane#2 and straight+right from lane#3.
It looks like they’re planning to keep the two lanes separate for now and so if you’re to the right side of the cones you need to go straight over in the right lane. If you’re to the left side (as is OP here) you need to go straight ahead in the left lane, the only time you change lane in the roundabout is if you’re coming off left or right
Go on then genius, what would you do? Half the cars, including myself, follow the left sign. The other half follow the other sign causing problems every morning.
The half that followed the sign on the closed off road, what if one of them vans with the big yellow arrows pointing down and to the right were parked up in that lane would you post saying…I can’t get to the right of the arrow because that lane is coned off…. ?
It’s clear based on the signage at both sides of the road that someone has messed up, the signs indeed contradict themselves.
That being said, I would personally apply every day driving experience to the equation and go in the left lane by default for straight ahead and left, unless instructed otherwise.
As the signage is contradictory this would void the unless instructed otherwise part.
Springfields roundabout, ignore the signs cause its a fucking free for all anyways, I drive a truck through here daily and the amount of pricks that cut me off because they take the other lane is stupid
If it's a roundabout, then when in doubt go with the right lane - that way you can go full way round the roundabout to get the right point for your exit.
Well, whoever they hired for roadworks traffic control fucked up.
If I heard correctly they're already overdue on finishing them
Construction is going round and round in circles.
Oh so that's why they're working on/near a roundabout!
They were only there to fix a pothole and installed a roundabout in error
IF there's a split up ahead on your side of the cones, the left lane is relevant to you seeing as the sign is to your left and you're on that side of the cones. So straight on is the first of two lanes at the split.
That’s a shit show. I would probably use the left lane because it’s what you would do for straight on if there were no other instructions, and these instructions basically add up to zero. But obviously you need to be very aware of people in the right lane and ready to evade.
Based on those signs, I'd ay either lane, depending on which lane you're currently in.
The arrows don’t look thick enough.. thought road signs had to meet certain standards?
These signs are definitely illegal.
Maybe someone trained/skilled in law can better answer... But my crude understanding is that if signs did not fully comply with TSRGD, then by definition they could not be considered as legal road signs. Until one guy seriously took the mickey (The Parking Adjudicator and Sunderland City Council on the application of Herron [2010]), then the concept of "Substantial Compliance" became a precedent for these kind of cases where a defective sign is still considered legal if the intent is still obviously understood by anyone who would have understood a fully compliant sign.
Is it two lanes straight over after the roundabout?
It will be eventually but right now they have roadworks that narrow the road both just as you get on the roundabout and just as you leave it
Narrowed to one lane or still two? If there’s space for two cars straight over then it doesn’t really matter which sign you follow because no one’s crossing over anyone else
Pick one and floor it.
Yes.
There's only one lane so that
It's very apparent. The path is actually a lane. If you go with that it all makes sense.
You might find yourself driving at 90 degrees across the opposite lane of traffic. But, signage. It's your job to follow, not to question.
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This seems to be a future 3 entry lanes roundabout, but only lanes #1 and #2 are available now, so you go left and straight from 1st lane and you turn right from the 2nd. I assume the right hand sign is used when the traffic is allowed on the other side of the cones, using entry lanes #2 and #3 and then you go left from lane#2 and straight+right from lane#3.
ask the roadworks people. Genuinely.
Ahhhh an auditor trap
The lane with the divide down the middle
Looks like one lane on approach..
Who knows, TM contractors have fucked up
Is it a dual lane exit?
Well, the sign on the right is after the one on the left so, it’s the valid one. I think I went to school with the person who put those signs out.
It looks like they’re planning to keep the two lanes separate for now and so if you’re to the right side of the cones you need to go straight over in the right lane. If you’re to the left side (as is OP here) you need to go straight ahead in the left lane, the only time you change lane in the roundabout is if you’re coming off left or right
The sign on the inside of the cones is for the construction traffic, no?
They’re both right. You can approach in either lane.
Are there actually two lanes, or is presuming to illustrate guidance through ‘temporary measures’ marginally irrelevant?
A sign on your right hand side does not apply to you
Signs on your side of the road are the ones that count, left lane.
You shouldn’t drive then
Go on then genius, what would you do? Half the cars, including myself, follow the left sign. The other half follow the other sign causing problems every morning.
The half that followed the sign on the closed off road, what if one of them vans with the big yellow arrows pointing down and to the right were parked up in that lane would you post saying…I can’t get to the right of the arrow because that lane is coned off…. ?
Good old British rd highways maintenance. Could fuck up a piss up in a brewery 🤦🤦🤦🤦
It’s clear based on the signage at both sides of the road that someone has messed up, the signs indeed contradict themselves. That being said, I would personally apply every day driving experience to the equation and go in the left lane by default for straight ahead and left, unless instructed otherwise. As the signage is contradictory this would void the unless instructed otherwise part.
Springfields roundabout, ignore the signs cause its a fucking free for all anyways, I drive a truck through here daily and the amount of pricks that cut me off because they take the other lane is stupid
Shocking isn't it. I can't wait for it to be finished.
Take caution and follow someone
Following someone is not the best advice. Chances are high that they're as confused as you. Always make your own decisions on the road.
Aye you're right.
Drive in the middle of both lanes then go wherever you want without the risk of another colliding.
Well according to that BWM infront of you then you can just use both lanes and drive down the middle
If it's a roundabout, then when in doubt go with the right lane - that way you can go full way round the roundabout to get the right point for your exit.