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john-johnson12

Lucky bastard


ErlAskwyer

šŸ˜‚ stumbled on this sub last week and seen nothing but poppies. Low and behold a load just ready in the wild garden. I've scored a few and they seeping, don't know if can be bothered going the whole distance with the production tho. Maybe next year when less going on at the house and can read up how to do it


jojoO_0

The book "Opium for the masses" has some nice instructions.


koushakandystore

You know about making tea with the pods right? Be a shame to waste all that potential tea. You can make a batch while they are still green. If you want some instructions just send me a chat request. Otherwise you can find all the instruction you need online. Definitely donā€™t toss them out after scoring them. That would be a waste. This time of year this site is pretty much only poppies. Thatā€™s because this is peak bloom time in the northern hemisphere. Similar thing happens in the fall for our Southern Hemisphere members. The rest of the year itā€™s mainly weed and cactus. But I am noticing more khat and tropane alkaloid hearing plants too. Enjoy your harvest!


RhetoricalCocktail

There are some VERY simple ones that are basically just boil with a bit of lemon juice, strain, boil off the water


ErlAskwyer

You scar the bulbs all the way around? Wait till day after and it's gone hard and scrape that off.. then boil that with lemon and then dry it.. what's left that's somewhat raw opium?


Stan_is_the_man

You can literally just eat the raw opium start slow


Shady_Lines

So how much "latex" are we talking for a dose, ballpark figure, if you scored and just ate it raw off the pod? I just found a few in my own garden that look promising, scored one and done a successful allergy test


RhetoricalCocktail

Yeah basically, at least from what I've remembered reading. Obviously look up a recipe yourself but I think so


ErlAskwyer

Ok I can manage that šŸ¤™


ErlAskwyer

You scar the bulbs all the way around? Wait till day after and it's gone hard and scrape that off.. then boil that with lemon and then dry it.. what's left that's somewhat raw opium?


koushakandystore

You donā€™t even need to boil it. When I harvest my pods I eat the raw latex and get VERY VERY stoned. But I have a high tolerance and have been doing this 20 years. I donā€™t score any of my pods. I dry them, grind the entire plant, make a hot water extraction and use distillation to yield the raw opium. Eat donā€™t have to do anything else. Very simple and you donā€™t waste any that way. Scoring and scraping is a primitive method that people developed before they had access to all the technologies that make large scale harvesting possible. I highly recommend you order Jim Hogshireā€™s book Opium for the Masses. Has everything you need to know about growing, procuring and safety. He has lived an interesting life. Heā€™s a folk hero up here in the Pacific Northwest. The feds came after him for writing his books and he beat them in court.


ErlAskwyer

Thanks yeah I saw that book, I'll get it. If I cut the head off with 6" of stalk on and dry them and wait for the book will that save my progress?


misfit-gardens

So you hot water extract the plant and then distill the water extract? Or you distill the whole plant itself?


koushakandystore

If you want to discuss the process feel feee to send me a chat request. Iā€™ll tell you exactly how I do the distillation.


Sepharda_Tejana

I have the text *The International Cultivators Handbook* by Lisle Drake in ebook format for Kindle. I also found a pdf copy of it in public domain in my local library. It has several techniques for harvesting the sap from the poppy bulbs and photos of some of the people who cultivate it in various areas practicing said techniques and some cool interesting interviews with some of the indigenous peoples who have done this for generations. Great text for anyone who has an interest in drug culture, regardless of whether they are a grower of anything or not.


ErlAskwyer

Fancy sharing?


Sepharda_Tejana

Ofc I couldnā€™t copy the link or the text from the one from my local library, and the kindle version I know is stuck in that format. After not being able to share the public information I got for free, I got all angry and started to look for a free share-able copy (itā€™s a JSTOR pdf file for academic research, sometimes those have a copyright license lock on the link to apparently discourage the sharing of the research section of property owned by *public and free* libraries, but thatā€™s another rant for another sub). Thatā€™s so annoying! Itā€™s good info and I am livid that I finally found a public domain copyā€¦ but I canā€™t copy it. Whatā€™s the point in public domain, then?!? Very aggravating. But I did find a link with illustrations, very cool. Its a different edition than the Kindle version I have so the illustrations are new to me! Hereā€™s a copy of the link to the pdf I did find that I can share and it comes with a viewing app imbedded within it via the Library of Alexandriaā€™s *Internet Archive* project: https://archive.org/details/cultivatorshandb0000unse


ErlAskwyer

Thanks so much šŸ™


DoggedDoggity

Keep the pressure light. You pierce that dermis with your blade, itā€™s over. Good luck!


ErlAskwyer

Ah ok you literally just want the skin scratching


DoggedDoggity

Exactly. Too deep and it dries up on the spot.


beachyfeet

Very nice!


viceboi666

ā€œFoundā€ them


TheeJimmyHoffa

Forgot what kind they planted too. See a lot of it on here. Hard to tell who has accidentally planted and who has accidentally found them. But they are nice all the same


pichael288

Those digitalis/foxglove are huge man, mine never get that tall


ErlAskwyer

That whole patch seems to be thriving left to itself


iactuallydontknow_-

Active


EricSpearing80

The carnation poppies are active I kinda thought so I spread a bunch of seed pods last fall and some this spring only had two come up so far but the dogs have been digging up the gardens pissing me off I wanted a harvest this year


[deleted]

Boof the dogs


EricSpearing80

Lol


weneeddiscriminators

yup!


Cubensisaustin710

It will if you heat it to much. Long as you lightly evaporate off the water till gets to that sticky substance you can roll into a ball. If you try to do like a roiling boil or whatever it's called yeah you'll probably break down dome compounds into other substances. And you still might through lightly evaporating the water cause some compounds to break down just due to time and the little bit of heat but it'll be okay the amount that will break down won't be alot just don't let it really get to a boil at all you know. Just to where steam starts to come off the water keep it there and stir it or put a magnetic stir bar if have that machine. But you won't lose enough to cause a noticeable difference. Plus some of the compounds that might break down may break down and (usually do) into a compound your body can absorb quicker and easier


ErlAskwyer

papaver paeoniflorum?


[deleted]

Was going to say peony poppy, and I thought not active or if it is its at a low content.


ErlAskwyer

Thank you


Old-Level-965

You can even just eat the raw pods. 4-5 and your feeling like MC 30. M30. Morphine sulfate contin coated 30 mg. Mind you won't get addicted this way, too much of an ordeal to consume for serious abuse.


Shady_Lines

>Mind you won't get addicted this way, too much of an ordeal to consume for serious abuse. Absolutely not true at all. Speaking from experience. Once a day was enough for me, duration wise and trust me, no amount of effort is too much in the pursuit of a high.


CertainComposer1770

Those are beautiful you ought to just collect seed and grow those suckers, the poison ain't worth a shit.


Shady_Lines

One man's poison is another man's potion.


CertainComposer1770

Very true


Kaskaskad

The strain is called tallulah belle Bush or Pink Fizz they also grew in my Garden and had no effect of 25 pods. I picked way to early tho. Idk if it's cuz I picked to early or it's just a low potency strain I didn't found any Info. May u can tell me if they worked for u?


ErlAskwyer

I won't be using them this year I don't know how to do it, maybe next year I'll give it a crack. Thanks for the input tho


Kaskaskad

Well u just grind the poppy heads up and make a tea of them. Slowly upping ur numbers ur supposed to start of with 3-5heads


Stan_is_the_man

Another way you can do it is by drying the pod's in a window then making tea with 2-3 pods at first definitely start slow tho you can learn how to use those pods safely with abt an hr of research you can totally use them this year go over to r/opiates and ask questions


itchybeats

Yea lmao


NewTrader21

how does it grow by itself ??


ErlAskwyer

Really well apparently šŸ˜‚ There were lots of plants in an overgrown garden when we moved in. More like jungle. We dozed everything up and got back to mud. A year later all these flowers popping up, we decided to leave a patch of them as looked pretty. This was that


TheeJimmyHoffa

Seeds will lay dormant for who knows how long. But when the conditions are right and you havenā€™t lost the bread tag twice in a row theyā€™ll pop up. If you want to control kinda how many pop keep the seeds and plant yourself.


ErlAskwyer

I was thinking this. May e next yeah the whole garden šŸ˜‚


Impossible-Notice439

Poppies and salvias are generally easy to grow. Depends on climate but thereā€™s not much to it


solventlessherbalist

Yes , you ā€œfound them in your gardenā€


Shady_Lines

More like "they found you", šŸ˜‰


tayfun333

Yes


Cogito_Ergo_Sum1

Thatā€™s the stuff


nonnatototita

And gorgeous


Frosty-Helicopter870

How can you all tell that these are the right ones?


Old-Level-965

Yup 110%.


Cubensisaustin710

I agree with the guy that said boil the opium you collect with water and strain it to get rid of extra plant material (stems leaves waxes fats) and boil the water down till it gets nice and sticky and then collect it into a ball and can either try and heat it lightly to speed up getting more liquid out or just let it sit in the sun for a bit mixing it into its self every few days. That will basically create smokeable opium though it's smokeable after collection this creates a smoother more refined smoke and is how they made it in large quantities back when opium dens were around. You could try and get the chemicals needed to break it down and create purer product but one you'll lose a great deal. Usually when making heroin they only get about 10% weight from what they originally started with. Second most countries the chemicals are on a watch list or banned so hard to get. Especially AA which is needed to convert morphine base into heroin. I guess you could research krokidil and how it's made and maybe be able to make a cheap drug. Not sure they use codeine pills for that. That stuffs nasty though


ErlAskwyer

I'm actually after the smokable opium like back in the dens, you've explained really well I think I understand thank you. Just wondering how long to boil for at start as someone said the heat will destroy the product?


Cubensisaustin710

Sorry the reply for your comment I didn't hit reply and just posted it as a regular comment my bad bro