They carried 11 dbs on the initial 53 man roster last year. 7 CBs and 4 S.
There is always some strange bottom of the roster churn right after though where they immediately cut guys and stash them on the practice squad.
No. That is not the case for PUP. They can be placed on at any time but by the final cutdown they must either be released/waived, traded, or put on the 53. Outside of that, they can instead be placed on the Reserve PUP list which means they must miss at least the first 4 games of the season.
With Brown, they can pull him off PUP at any time prior to cutdowns, but he cannot go back on.
If a player is placed on IR prior to cutdowns they are *not* eligible for return and will instead spend the entire year on IR unless waived/injured.
Not necessarily true, when we signed him Howie wouldn’t commit one way or the other. He I have zero confidence in Maddox to make it through a season. Even when he did play last year, it wasn’t good. There’s a reason no other teams even brought him in for a physical.
That said, he would be my choice over Bradbury or Ricks who needs more refinement
Ringo is only 21 years old, he was seen as a raw prospect coming out, and we traded this year’s 3rd rounder to get him. I think there’s basically no chance he’s not on the team this year. I’d like for Ricks to make his way on the roster too though.
I thought his athletic abilities and physical presence were pretty obviously on display for the games we asked him to start.
Dude was a raw rookie and was an obvious upgrade over Bradberry imo.
Slay is likely gone after this year and Maddox/Rodgers are on 1 year deals, so having a young guy like Ringo under team control for a few more years - at least as depth if nothing else - is pretty valuable. No team would give up more than a mid-late rounder in a trade, and the FO effectively spent this year’s 3rd on him. I would be shocked if he got traded. Not 0% chance but he’s a LOT safer than Ricks.
I don't think Ringo's role will change because he's young(not 22 yet) and even though he was drafted in the 4th, they basically used a 3rd to get him. Would not be surprised if they still want him to eventually become a potential starting caliber outside CB. The issue with Sydney is the injury which may keep him out early in the season. He probably could've fought for a spot on the higher end of the safety depth chart. I have no idea what they may do with Ricks though he will probably be on the roster.
**My guess on who we keep at DB:**
Outside corner: Slay, Mitchell, Ringo, Ricks
Slot: Maddox, Rodgers
Safety/Slot hybrid: CJGJ, Dejean
Safety: Blankenship, Sydney Brown
Cut: Bradberry, McPhearson, Jobe
I think people are way overreacting to Bradberry's previous season.
He was atrocious, yes. But he was also very good the year before. I'm not saying he should start whatsoever, but from the perspective of the organization coming off their worst defensive season in a very long time, I think they would be interested to see if Bradberry can make a comeback under Fangio. Desai was shit, and whatshisname was even worse.
Again, if the dead cap wasn't so bad, I would cut Bradberry too. But I think the organization is okay with at most benching him to see if he can be a depth piece and ideally be a little bit better under Fangio. (brought to you by a guy who thought Ringo should have taken Bradeberry's spot halfway through the season)
Bradberry also has been good one year horrible the next every year of his career. So very reasonable he bounces back.
My guess is Ringo and Ricks will be stashed and then will be in the limelight come 2025 when Slay and Bradberry are gone.
Reducing Bradberry's snap count might benefit him and the young guys who get to learn from him. He still has size and experience in the red zone and against certain big WRs. He might play less against elite speed.
For sure, good point. The more I think about it the more I talk myself into thinking he shouldn’t be cut at all. I have a hard time believing his decline last year will carry over this year. He won’t be a Pro bowler but he should be serviceable .
I personally thought they would still end up starting Bradberry next year(pre draft obviously) because of the way we generally treat rookies/vets and the fact that I figured we would be going g OL in the first and a 2nd round DB would be unlikely to beat out Bradberry for the spot(and he would get slight edge over Ringo and Rodgers)
Then the Eagles went b2b for corners and traded up for one.
Bradberry is done
I don't think its overreacting. I think its based on youth and exploring talent in the CB room. Yes he played bad last year but he will also be 31 before the season starts. If the Eagles feel like the youth on the team is worth developing he is good as gone come June 1. They can take about a 4 million hit on the 2024 cap this year and defer the rest to next
No one is saying he’s starting, just that he’ll be on the roster.
Honestly I think there’s a better chance he’s starting week 1 than he is to be cut…and my money is on Q to start week 1.
Whether he is starting or not isn't my point. My point is that the Eagles have shown that if they have solid young talent that is worth developing with limited spots they will go with the young talent to develop. Whether or not that actually happens neither of us know.
The issue that a post-6/1 cut is (from my understanding) going to cost us the same regardless of whether he’s on the team or not, so why not see if an All-Pro from 2 years ago still has some juice and bounce back like he’s done seemingly every other year? Cutting him seems like an overreaction, even based on his poor play last year, because of the money he’s already guaranteed
My comment is based on the premise of how the CB room shakes out. The difference with a post June 1 cut is that basically you can, if you choose, defer a large amount of his cap to next year. In his case 10 million can be deferred to next year and 4 million this year. This is essentially betting(based on precedent) that they cap will increase next year so 10 million next year will not be as impactful as this year.
I see my previous comment got downvoted but this is EXACTLY what happened with Cox in 2022 before they resigned him and was going to happen to Slay had he not restructured. The Eagles have eaten cap hits in other situations as well. What gives Bradberry immunity when those 2 didn't have it, especially given the size of the CB room and the aged of those in the CB room with JB going into the season at 31 and the younger talent in their early 20's
I agree that if he comes to camp and he truly has lost it relative to how the other guys perform, but it's more so people (not necessarily you) saying they would rather just cut him outright without seeing him in camp.
And I understand the concept of deferring the cap with a post-6/1 cut. My point is that, in terms of salary, there is seemingly no difference if he were to played one more year on this contract (based on the potential out we have after 2024) or if he were cut post-6/1. Unless they make an odd choice to cut him now, he's getting $4 million this year and $10 million next year regardless and that money is counting against the cap. If he's going to be getting the same money in a situation where he plays out this year or he's cut after 6/1, it seems like it's a far better situation to see how things work out first
I talked about that in another comment saying basically that the org has to decide whether the young CBs have more potential than an aging former all pro. He may be given the benefit of the doubt because of whatever the fuck that was with the defense last year. That still means somebody has to go.
There’s not really any cap incentive to cut him it’s pretty much a wash…keep him til camp and see if someone gets hurt and a team gets desperate for a CB. Teams like Jags/Colts real weak at CB even before camp starts. Trading him much better or just keep and cut next offseason.
my comment is regarding the original post about how the new guys fit in. In another comment further down I gave my reasoning and it had nothing to do with the cap.
Basically we can't keep all the guys in the CB room and IF the org determines that Bradberry is cooked and the newer guys are worth developing then Bradberry is as good as gone. A trade would be nice but everyone knows what his production was like last year and the Eagles have been known to eat a contract and cut a player if there is conflict with either money or room. Most recently it was Slay who would have been released if he didn't restructure and Cox in 2022 who was released post June 1 but was ultimately re-signed. The post June 1 cut allows the Eagles to defer, if they choose, 10 million or so of Bradberry's cap hit to 2025 with 4 million counting toward this year.
His skill set is perfect for Fangios scheme. He was tasked to do far too much press coverage and played like shit because that’s not his style of play. Eagles are definitely giving him another year
I think the eagles are planning for the scenario where both Bradberry (cut) and Slay (age) are toast this year. I would bet they keep as many DBs as possible
While it was admirable that Ricks, a UDFA, came in and wasn’t a disaster last year - I don’t think he factors in to long term plans besides a backup role at best.
Brown will continue development, possibly taking over for CJGJ or Blankenship after we move on from them.
Ringo will either be a primary outside backup or maaaaaaybe develop into a starter beside Mitchell after Slay departs. That’s still a pretty big maybe at this point, but that would be the optimistic outlook.
Sydney Brown will probably get on the field in dime packages. Long term, he probably takes over for CJGJ in a year or 2.
Kelee is going to be the top backup at outside CB if we cut Bradberry. He had flashes down the stretch last year, I think he could be a long term answer at CB2, but finding a way to get him on the field will be tough if Slay and Q both stay healthy
Ricks is just depth. He wasn't awful last year but Kelee showed more upside. He'll be decent depth but I'd be shocked if he's on the team in another year or 2.
Maddox is on a one year deal and isn’t a lock to make the team , Slay looked really good the last couple of years but is quite old and this is probably his last with the team, Bradberry will probably be cut before the season.
Not saying all these guys can start but I think there can be roles for all of them.
They have to compete for their jobs.
Eagles wouldn’t have spent their first two picks on the secondary and spent good money on CJGJ if any of these guys had stepped up and looked like a starter last year.
Of course they were young players and they can get better. And they’ll have to if they want a roster spot because there’s real competition this year.
Ideally...
Brown will be a backup safety in the short term, and should still replace CJGJ when he leaves in a year or two.
Kelee Ringo is our #4 outside corner. He moves to our primary backup next year when Slay retires and Rodgers becomes the starter opposite Mitchell.
Ricks is potentially the odd man out, unable to even be our primary backup. He probably leaves for a better opportunity when his contract is up.
Ringo # 1, I see him as the future of the team alongside this year’s picks.
Brown too until his injury, that was the worst possible timing. Hopefully it doesn’t stunt his development.
Ricks is depth. IIRC he may play the Maddox role once everything is said and done. Keep all 3 on the roster.
A lot depends on where they see DeJean playing long term. Is he a Safety? Slot Corner? Outside Corner?
I think Brown is still a future starter at safety. He has more upside than Blankenship does. I like Blankenship but I wonder if he's as good as he is going to get. I don't think Brown has hit his ceiling yet.
Ringo and Ricks probably don't have a long term future with the team unless Mitchell or DeJean crash and burn or get bit by the injury bug.
I think Ringo has a future depending on a variety of factors. Like how the organization views his development(drafted at just 20 years old and turns 22 in 2 months) and they basically used a 3rd on him. Also, it depends on how they view Dejean's role like if he will play a lot of outside CB. It also depends if they see a future with Ringo in the slot CB or safety positions like how many people discussed Ringo switching to when he reached the pro level.
I don't see them giving up on him just yet because of what they spent in draft capital to get him. I agree his future largely hinges on what they do to DeJean. Prior to the draft I was expecting him to get a shot at unseating Bradberry this summer, but that is obviously going to fall to Mitchell.
If they see DeJean playing inside whether it be safety or slot then I see them potentially giving Ringo a shot at Slay's spot in another year or two.
Last year the opening roster had 7 CBs and 4 Safeties. I imagine something similar. Sydney Brown also is a good candidate for PUP list. Bradberry is likely gone one way or another. Assuming those:
CBs:
Slay
Mitchell
Maddox
McPhearson
Rodgers
Dejean
Ringo
Ricks
S:
CJGJ
Blankenship
Probably keep one more CB and initially use Dejean as a Safety. The camp battles will decide the last spot or two.
Ricks has tremendous upside potential. Too many people allow the fact that he went undrafted cloud their reality that’s he’s actually a solid player. Unfortunately, it probably won’t dawn on most people until he’s gone.
I seriously don’t understand why everyone loves Brown. Aside from the INT return TD, the dude was trash all year. Missing tackles, blown coverage, etc. The fact people want him to replace Blankenship is mind blowing. Visually, he seems worse than Kurt Coleman.
Because every player on the Eagles = stud. I thought brown was pretty crummy as well along with Bingo and Rick's. The defense was awful because of talent problems. Fangiblow is coming here to collect fat checks while bring retired, but no way he's hyped with anyone he saw play secondary last year.
He was a rookie playing on a defense that was struggling all over the field. His ceiling is super high. We just need to give him time to develop and put him in better situations and he will be more than fine.
Because he’s cheap, 22 and actually looked solid when he was played to his strengths. Looked like shit at slot because we had literally no one that could play it last season, I’d advise people not high on Ringo or Ricks to look at that Seahawks game again, they were up against a very good WR core without Slay and looked really good. Sadly Bradberry being burnt toast on the last drive made everyone forget
God our secondary went from one of the worst in the league to possibly one of the best depending on how they all play. I’ve never seen a turnaround like that in any secondary ever I don’t think.
Yeah they definitely focused on secondary. Added two top draft picks, CJGJ, and re-signed Maddox (which really counts as an addition). Count on Bradberry, Slay, and Maddox to be gone by ‘25. Then it all belongs to the young guys.
Pretty much. If Slay is still playing really well, then we could keep him but I doubt it. He’s too old and they could pay one of the young guys way less. Bradberry will 100% be gone and I’m glad, fuck him, he sucks. The young guys are gonna completely take over, I just hope Mitchell, DeJean, and Trotter Jr live up to the hype. I mean there isn’t nearly as much hype for Trotter Jr, but I think he could really fit in well soon.
They carried 11 dbs on the initial 53 man roster last year. 7 CBs and 4 S. There is always some strange bottom of the roster churn right after though where they immediately cut guys and stash them on the practice squad.
Pretty sure all the guys in the title are PS eligible, and if they’re really loaded teams will IR players and have them come back if they need them.
Brown will start the season on PUP. I foresee a few players going to IR right before cutdown as well.
Yup. A couple guys will be “injured.”
Believe he will still need to be on initial 53 first though
No. That is not the case for PUP. They can be placed on at any time but by the final cutdown they must either be released/waived, traded, or put on the 53. Outside of that, they can instead be placed on the Reserve PUP list which means they must miss at least the first 4 games of the season. With Brown, they can pull him off PUP at any time prior to cutdowns, but he cannot go back on. If a player is placed on IR prior to cutdowns they are *not* eligible for return and will instead spend the entire year on IR unless waived/injured.
Brown and Ringo are depth. Ricks is probably out.
Which means that Ricks will be a decent starter on another team soon. As is tradition for corners we cut.
Yup ricks is def better than ringo.
With his hands he's better, But he's not a better db. Ringo is faster, stronger and bigger.
Ringo got smoked in the cfp before the draft and got smoked all year last year. Im 49 and I could do better than ringo. Hes trash.
Sidney Brown?
Rasul Douglas, Eric Rowe. I thought there were more but thats all I can come up with. The guy we got from the bills but I guess we didn't draft him.
Eric Rowe did help us win a superbowl when he attempted to cover Alshon. I do wish we kept Douglas.
Nelson has been playing pretty well for the Texans as well.
I think you may have also been thinking about Patrick Chung. But he’s a safety.
Wait Chung was an eagle before a patriot? Daaaaaamn
In between lol. He left here and then popped off
Patrick Chung
Ricks played more than Ringo last year
Higher floor, lower ceiling.
Brown is still the best box safety we have tho
Maddox probably get cut
They’re not cutting one of the only dudes with real NFL experience playing slot
I hear ya, but he's only got 875000 guaranteed. I think he's the safety net in case above dudes don't pan out this preseason.
Yeah, no. That’s why CJGJ is here
Uh, no? CJGJ is here to play safety, him having the ability to play slot too doesn’t change that fact
Not necessarily true, when we signed him Howie wouldn’t commit one way or the other. He I have zero confidence in Maddox to make it through a season. Even when he did play last year, it wasn’t good. There’s a reason no other teams even brought him in for a physical. That said, he would be my choice over Bradbury or Ricks who needs more refinement
If he’s healthy he’s probably a lock for the roster. Big “if” of course…
He just signed a 1 year contract so he's basically locked in for the year barring his usual injury
he'll be on IR by week 3 anyway, guy cant stay healthy for more then 3 games
I’d take Ricks over ringo
Ringo is only 21 years old, he was seen as a raw prospect coming out, and we traded this year’s 3rd rounder to get him. I think there’s basically no chance he’s not on the team this year. I’d like for Ricks to make his way on the roster too though.
And Ringo was flat out better too lol.
I thought his athletic abilities and physical presence were pretty obviously on display for the games we asked him to start. Dude was a raw rookie and was an obvious upgrade over Bradberry imo.
He could be traded to a different team rather than cut. There's not no chance
Slay is likely gone after this year and Maddox/Rodgers are on 1 year deals, so having a young guy like Ringo under team control for a few more years - at least as depth if nothing else - is pretty valuable. No team would give up more than a mid-late rounder in a trade, and the FO effectively spent this year’s 3rd on him. I would be shocked if he got traded. Not 0% chance but he’s a LOT safer than Ricks.
Zech McPherson is also a FA after this season. Someone is probably getting kept and it’s probably going to be whoever is most versatile or most value
I forgot about him. Coaches love him…
Ringo looked a lot better than Ricks last year imo
Need to give Ringo more than his rookie year to develop
I wouldn’t but I’m keeping Ricks
I'd keep Ricks over Jobe.
No question about it. I’d be annoyed if Ricks is the one left out.
Jobe shouldn't even be in the discussion for staying.
Ringo>Ricks Ricks is a great player though
John, Paul, and George too
Although they play different positions, I’d take both Ringo and Ricks over Brown.
I don't think Ringo's role will change because he's young(not 22 yet) and even though he was drafted in the 4th, they basically used a 3rd to get him. Would not be surprised if they still want him to eventually become a potential starting caliber outside CB. The issue with Sydney is the injury which may keep him out early in the season. He probably could've fought for a spot on the higher end of the safety depth chart. I have no idea what they may do with Ricks though he will probably be on the roster.
**My guess on who we keep at DB:** Outside corner: Slay, Mitchell, Ringo, Ricks Slot: Maddox, Rodgers Safety/Slot hybrid: CJGJ, Dejean Safety: Blankenship, Sydney Brown Cut: Bradberry, McPhearson, Jobe
Rodgers doesn’t play slot
Fr idk why people are saying he’s a nickel/slot corner. He’s an outside corner he’s just a bit short.
Too much madden
I kept him on the outside in my franchise 😤
I definitely moved him inside hahaha
He was projected to play slot coming into the NFL. Colts went against the grain. Doesn’t mean he can’t be put there for us.
I doubt they end up cutting McPherson, dude does too much on special teams looks like he is becoming that next Maragos type player for us
That’s already 10 dbs how many do we usually roster? Likely we cut someone that gets signed right away this year.
Usually 10-12, and yeah we are absolutely gonna cut someone who will immediately get picked up
We had 11 last year.
Yeah but how you play on special teams matters a lot for those last spots at any position.
I could see him being a practice squad call up guy. I doubt anyone signs him especially coming off an Achilles tear
Our special teams was good without him last year though
We’re not cutting Bradberry
He is likely to be a post June 1st cut.
I think people are way overreacting to Bradberry's previous season. He was atrocious, yes. But he was also very good the year before. I'm not saying he should start whatsoever, but from the perspective of the organization coming off their worst defensive season in a very long time, I think they would be interested to see if Bradberry can make a comeback under Fangio. Desai was shit, and whatshisname was even worse. Again, if the dead cap wasn't so bad, I would cut Bradberry too. But I think the organization is okay with at most benching him to see if he can be a depth piece and ideally be a little bit better under Fangio. (brought to you by a guy who thought Ringo should have taken Bradeberry's spot halfway through the season)
Bradberry also has been good one year horrible the next every year of his career. So very reasonable he bounces back. My guess is Ringo and Ricks will be stashed and then will be in the limelight come 2025 when Slay and Bradberry are gone.
Two end of season painful plays come to mind.
Reducing Bradberry's snap count might benefit him and the young guys who get to learn from him. He still has size and experience in the red zone and against certain big WRs. He might play less against elite speed.
For sure, good point. The more I think about it the more I talk myself into thinking he shouldn’t be cut at all. I have a hard time believing his decline last year will carry over this year. He won’t be a Pro bowler but he should be serviceable .
I personally thought they would still end up starting Bradberry next year(pre draft obviously) because of the way we generally treat rookies/vets and the fact that I figured we would be going g OL in the first and a 2nd round DB would be unlikely to beat out Bradberry for the spot(and he would get slight edge over Ringo and Rodgers) Then the Eagles went b2b for corners and traded up for one. Bradberry is done
I don't think its overreacting. I think its based on youth and exploring talent in the CB room. Yes he played bad last year but he will also be 31 before the season starts. If the Eagles feel like the youth on the team is worth developing he is good as gone come June 1. They can take about a 4 million hit on the 2024 cap this year and defer the rest to next
No one is saying he’s starting, just that he’ll be on the roster. Honestly I think there’s a better chance he’s starting week 1 than he is to be cut…and my money is on Q to start week 1.
Whether he is starting or not isn't my point. My point is that the Eagles have shown that if they have solid young talent that is worth developing with limited spots they will go with the young talent to develop. Whether or not that actually happens neither of us know.
The issue that a post-6/1 cut is (from my understanding) going to cost us the same regardless of whether he’s on the team or not, so why not see if an All-Pro from 2 years ago still has some juice and bounce back like he’s done seemingly every other year? Cutting him seems like an overreaction, even based on his poor play last year, because of the money he’s already guaranteed
My comment is based on the premise of how the CB room shakes out. The difference with a post June 1 cut is that basically you can, if you choose, defer a large amount of his cap to next year. In his case 10 million can be deferred to next year and 4 million this year. This is essentially betting(based on precedent) that they cap will increase next year so 10 million next year will not be as impactful as this year. I see my previous comment got downvoted but this is EXACTLY what happened with Cox in 2022 before they resigned him and was going to happen to Slay had he not restructured. The Eagles have eaten cap hits in other situations as well. What gives Bradberry immunity when those 2 didn't have it, especially given the size of the CB room and the aged of those in the CB room with JB going into the season at 31 and the younger talent in their early 20's
I agree that if he comes to camp and he truly has lost it relative to how the other guys perform, but it's more so people (not necessarily you) saying they would rather just cut him outright without seeing him in camp. And I understand the concept of deferring the cap with a post-6/1 cut. My point is that, in terms of salary, there is seemingly no difference if he were to played one more year on this contract (based on the potential out we have after 2024) or if he were cut post-6/1. Unless they make an odd choice to cut him now, he's getting $4 million this year and $10 million next year regardless and that money is counting against the cap. If he's going to be getting the same money in a situation where he plays out this year or he's cut after 6/1, it seems like it's a far better situation to see how things work out first
I talked about that in another comment saying basically that the org has to decide whether the young CBs have more potential than an aging former all pro. He may be given the benefit of the doubt because of whatever the fuck that was with the defense last year. That still means somebody has to go.
There’s not really any cap incentive to cut him it’s pretty much a wash…keep him til camp and see if someone gets hurt and a team gets desperate for a CB. Teams like Jags/Colts real weak at CB even before camp starts. Trading him much better or just keep and cut next offseason.
my comment is regarding the original post about how the new guys fit in. In another comment further down I gave my reasoning and it had nothing to do with the cap. Basically we can't keep all the guys in the CB room and IF the org determines that Bradberry is cooked and the newer guys are worth developing then Bradberry is as good as gone. A trade would be nice but everyone knows what his production was like last year and the Eagles have been known to eat a contract and cut a player if there is conflict with either money or room. Most recently it was Slay who would have been released if he didn't restructure and Cox in 2022 who was released post June 1 but was ultimately re-signed. The post June 1 cut allows the Eagles to defer, if they choose, 10 million or so of Bradberry's cap hit to 2025 with 4 million counting toward this year.
Why not? I could see it happening. Might not be the likely thing but definitely possible.
His skill set is perfect for Fangios scheme. He was tasked to do far too much press coverage and played like shit because that’s not his style of play. Eagles are definitely giving him another year
Looks reasonable to me. I think the 9 other than Ricks are nearly locks, and then we keep 1 or 2 of Ricks, Bradberry, and McPhearson.
where does everybody keep getting this idea that rodgers is a slot despite never playing there?
I think the eagles are planning for the scenario where both Bradberry (cut) and Slay (age) are toast this year. I would bet they keep as many DBs as possible
Thought this was a fuck-marry-kill
Depth because at some point we will have 2-3 injured DBs at the same time. Pretty much happened every year except both times we went to the super bowl
While it was admirable that Ricks, a UDFA, came in and wasn’t a disaster last year - I don’t think he factors in to long term plans besides a backup role at best. Brown will continue development, possibly taking over for CJGJ or Blankenship after we move on from them. Ringo will either be a primary outside backup or maaaaaaybe develop into a starter beside Mitchell after Slay departs. That’s still a pretty big maybe at this point, but that would be the optimistic outlook.
Sydney Brown will probably get on the field in dime packages. Long term, he probably takes over for CJGJ in a year or 2. Kelee is going to be the top backup at outside CB if we cut Bradberry. He had flashes down the stretch last year, I think he could be a long term answer at CB2, but finding a way to get him on the field will be tough if Slay and Q both stay healthy Ricks is just depth. He wasn't awful last year but Kelee showed more upside. He'll be decent depth but I'd be shocked if he's on the team in another year or 2.
Maddox is on a one year deal and isn’t a lock to make the team , Slay looked really good the last couple of years but is quite old and this is probably his last with the team, Bradberry will probably be cut before the season. Not saying all these guys can start but I think there can be roles for all of them.
Fight it out.
impossible to say until they all get the chance to compete in camp. Cheap depth is certainly not a bad thing
I think the hope for Brown is to become the 2nd safety and push Blankenship down to third
Brown could be better than Reed in a year or two, should definitely keep him
They have to compete for their jobs. Eagles wouldn’t have spent their first two picks on the secondary and spent good money on CJGJ if any of these guys had stepped up and looked like a starter last year. Of course they were young players and they can get better. And they’ll have to if they want a roster spot because there’s real competition this year.
All I know is camp is going to be a battle !!!
Brown is injured. Doubt he starts the year on the active roster. Ringo and Ricks are competing for spots. Wouldn’t say either of them are locks.
Ringo is a definite lock. We traded up to get him (so obviously we liked him) and he was always seen as a young developmental corner (he is only 21).
And Isaiah The reality is, some of these people might find themselves in the practice squad in the near future
My dumbass thought that said Sydney Sweeney and I thought it was the weirdest fmk ever
Ideally... Brown will be a backup safety in the short term, and should still replace CJGJ when he leaves in a year or two. Kelee Ringo is our #4 outside corner. He moves to our primary backup next year when Slay retires and Rodgers becomes the starter opposite Mitchell. Ricks is potentially the odd man out, unable to even be our primary backup. He probably leaves for a better opportunity when his contract is up.
ricks is probably gone unless he can beat out rodgers or hall in preseason
same as last year, solid backups / practice squad
Ringo # 1, I see him as the future of the team alongside this year’s picks. Brown too until his injury, that was the worst possible timing. Hopefully it doesn’t stunt his development. Ricks is depth. IIRC he may play the Maddox role once everything is said and done. Keep all 3 on the roster.
A lot depends on where they see DeJean playing long term. Is he a Safety? Slot Corner? Outside Corner? I think Brown is still a future starter at safety. He has more upside than Blankenship does. I like Blankenship but I wonder if he's as good as he is going to get. I don't think Brown has hit his ceiling yet. Ringo and Ricks probably don't have a long term future with the team unless Mitchell or DeJean crash and burn or get bit by the injury bug.
I think Ringo has a future depending on a variety of factors. Like how the organization views his development(drafted at just 20 years old and turns 22 in 2 months) and they basically used a 3rd on him. Also, it depends on how they view Dejean's role like if he will play a lot of outside CB. It also depends if they see a future with Ringo in the slot CB or safety positions like how many people discussed Ringo switching to when he reached the pro level.
I don't see them giving up on him just yet because of what they spent in draft capital to get him. I agree his future largely hinges on what they do to DeJean. Prior to the draft I was expecting him to get a shot at unseating Bradberry this summer, but that is obviously going to fall to Mitchell. If they see DeJean playing inside whether it be safety or slot then I see them potentially giving Ringo a shot at Slay's spot in another year or two.
Last year the opening roster had 7 CBs and 4 Safeties. I imagine something similar. Sydney Brown also is a good candidate for PUP list. Bradberry is likely gone one way or another. Assuming those: CBs: Slay Mitchell Maddox McPhearson Rodgers Dejean Ringo Ricks S: CJGJ Blankenship Probably keep one more CB and initially use Dejean as a Safety. The camp battles will decide the last spot or two.
I don’t get this love for Ricks. He was serviceable when we should be aiming for better. Is he our new Greg Ward or smth?
Ricks has tremendous upside potential. Too many people allow the fact that he went undrafted cloud their reality that’s he’s actually a solid player. Unfortunately, it probably won’t dawn on most people until he’s gone.
I seriously don’t understand why everyone loves Brown. Aside from the INT return TD, the dude was trash all year. Missing tackles, blown coverage, etc. The fact people want him to replace Blankenship is mind blowing. Visually, he seems worse than Kurt Coleman.
Because every player on the Eagles = stud. I thought brown was pretty crummy as well along with Bingo and Rick's. The defense was awful because of talent problems. Fangiblow is coming here to collect fat checks while bring retired, but no way he's hyped with anyone he saw play secondary last year.
He was a rookie playing on a defense that was struggling all over the field. His ceiling is super high. We just need to give him time to develop and put him in better situations and he will be more than fine.
Because he’s cheap, 22 and actually looked solid when he was played to his strengths. Looked like shit at slot because we had literally no one that could play it last season, I’d advise people not high on Ringo or Ricks to look at that Seahawks game again, they were up against a very good WR core without Slay and looked really good. Sadly Bradberry being burnt toast on the last drive made everyone forget
Brown and Ringo are likely moving to Safety, and Ricks is a solid depth CB
God our secondary went from one of the worst in the league to possibly one of the best depending on how they all play. I’ve never seen a turnaround like that in any secondary ever I don’t think.
Yeah they definitely focused on secondary. Added two top draft picks, CJGJ, and re-signed Maddox (which really counts as an addition). Count on Bradberry, Slay, and Maddox to be gone by ‘25. Then it all belongs to the young guys.
Pretty much. If Slay is still playing really well, then we could keep him but I doubt it. He’s too old and they could pay one of the young guys way less. Bradberry will 100% be gone and I’m glad, fuck him, he sucks. The young guys are gonna completely take over, I just hope Mitchell, DeJean, and Trotter Jr live up to the hype. I mean there isn’t nearly as much hype for Trotter Jr, but I think he could really fit in well soon.