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It really just counts as 45. Each time you go past 360 the count resets to zero. Kind of like how when you go past midnight, the next hour is 1 instead of 25. /s
Never got that far. It was, "I'm fucked up, but I can beeeend." "But can't we go to herm deploh?" "Nah, bruh, we got this bish!" Trust me, bud! I've sent turds to the nether realm. I'm gonna send this pipe there, too. Watch, as I make this apostrophe and semicolon go to battle in this argument. Can you smell what the underpaid spark is coooooooooooooking? Sorry bro, lunch breaks over.
The part that baffles me the most is where they go out of their way to get around that ledge, instead of just. Straight.
180 degrees right there for no particular reason.
Are you talking about those four back to backs in the third and fourth pictures? If they went straight across that low point the corners of the concrete would be inside the radius. They would have had a gap of a few inches. What they did is actually how you would get around the outside of a corner as tight as possible. To get around one corner is a back to back, to get around two corners is two back to backs. I actually can't fault their technique getting around those obstacles, but when you put it all together it looks pretty stupid. This is a case where the foreman should have ordered three LBs for all the outside corners.
This wouldn’t really take that long to pipe. A couple hours maybe. They didn’t whole stick it so that makes it faster, plus there’s a lot of symmetry so some of your bends you could do twice with the same measurements. There are also a lot of places where you can break the run in half to fish it. If they actually piped all the way to the last light you wouldn’t need a ground, so two wires. This wouldn’t be that hard to pull either. Mounting the lights, piping, pulling, and trimming should take one guy most of the day.
Nowhere I've worked lets you get away with that. Inspectors say no because they've seen too many couplings that aren't tighted down. And they're right, I see them all the time too. It may be legal, but it's bad practice.
What can they do though? The code prescribes the minimum requirements for an installation and the inspector is there to enforce that minimum. They may not like it, but what can they actually ding you on?
You’d be surprised what the code will let you get away with. Everyone I know thinks every FMC whip needs a ground, but the same article says if your whip 6’ and under, uses listed fittings, is under 1-1/4” in trade size, protected by a 20 amp breaker, and not prone to vibration you don’t need a ground. So what is the book trying to say there? Lighting whips don’t need grounds, the FMC counts.
You guys are looking at it all wrong, the last 6 90’s cancel out the first 3… so in reality it’s a zero degree run
I kinda appreciate it, defiantly a hold my beer run
my milwaukee polyester isn't stiff enough to get through a run like that. it glides super easy up until 300 degrees and turns into a limp noodle. the speed leader I have on my steel ideal has gotten through up to 800. just have to cut off the factory head and torch it to install. takes 5 min
This is what happens when the boss says "I want the whole run tight to the concrete and don't block the sign" doesn't order any LBs, and leaves for the day.
JW: "Foreman said he is not gonna go to the supply house for anything else, and it needs done today."
Apprentice: "But, we need connectors and LBS"
JW: "I know, but we can only work with what we got, dont even have the fixture yet, we can pull the wire in and they can just bust a coupling to pull it back a lil and shove it in the connector/fixture later."
*One week later, the fixture arrives and the foreman is looking at the run.*
Foreman: "Shit, I forgot to get a pendant kit for that light, itll be fine, eh, its under an awning."
*Forman procedes to grab the first year 3-week on the job Apprentice and instructs him to "get it up for now"*
There's a pull point, you just have to pull to the first half of that 180 degree bend before you put the coupling on, and then feed the rest of the pipe over the wire...
Well the other light came wired up with 38’ of prewired conduit… so I just had to get her to the other light! But man- the other light is so cheap! Didn’t even have a plug on it! So the only option I had was to bareback my cable in and coil it. I sure hope it works.
The pull points were after each coupling, I guarantee they put the pipe over the wire instead of the other way around. Some maintenance guy was super proud of that 6-90 saddle abortion, as for the kick thing I don't know what they were thinking
This trade is funny.. it really shows you how people think and what they try.
But I'm not going to lie.. that situation is a tricky one.
I personally would have gone through the block so it went through straight .. instead of that third photo, 90s villa
Way over 360. If he had used a connector going into the light base I would have been impressed. This is what happens when the foreman gives your check in the AM but expects you to work the rest of the day.
It looks like the conduit was made to go around the pole, the light fixtures was moved, and most likely the client did not want to pay for new conduit, a junction box needs to be installed at the light fixture , and the painter did a smashed up paint job, so all in all, it looks like a amateur did this or it was a DIY project
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The bare wires with no junction box on the last slide was just 👌icing on the cake 😂
I giggled
It’s like someone made a physical joke for every electrician that walks by. I kind of love it haha
I’m not even an electrician and I’d laugh at this
I’m not even a real electrician and I snorted like an idiot
We can have a little bare wiring, as a treat.
You can have cake as a treat. Happy Cake Day! 🍰
And not doing box offsets after all the trouble to avoid pulling Ls
He didn't want to put too many bends in the run.
Obviously 🙄😂
But wanted the whole 360
The total amount of bends is 420
720 as I counted 8 90s six of them used to make an offset
Probably ran out of conduit after wasting so much on all the "fancy" bends.
“My uncle was an electrician so I have a natural affinity for it”
Perfection
Exactly
Could have at least ran it into the ceiling using a 90 for a cleaner finish but fuck man that shit must have been a bitch to pull
Dude must have used a whole tub of easy pull
This is gold 🤌 👌
I laughed actually
I was laughing out loud a few before that.
765 degrees but at least no pesky box offsets to kill through.
It really just counts as 45. Each time you go past 360 the count resets to zero. Kind of like how when you go past midnight, the next hour is 1 instead of 25. /s
That’s right
It resets with a pull point. Lol
LOL. Can I quote that to my inspector? He'll get a chuckle out of it.
Yes, I hereby proclaim it to be true.
Could have literally done 5 back to back 90’s in a straight line and would have used less bends AND still be using one less 90 😂
The floating wires at the end really caps it all off nicely
This is kind of amazing, actually
"im not even mad, im impressed "
The most weather proof fitting is no fittings at all. Also, you pipe it, you pull it.
That way it drains good !!
The amount of effort to avoid an LB is admirable.
...and didn't even bother to box offset after all that bullshit...
I bet when they asked about LBs they were just told "We don't have those. Make it work." Lol.
Never got that far. It was, "I'm fucked up, but I can beeeend." "But can't we go to herm deploh?" "Nah, bruh, we got this bish!" Trust me, bud! I've sent turds to the nether realm. I'm gonna send this pipe there, too. Watch, as I make this apostrophe and semicolon go to battle in this argument. Can you smell what the underpaid spark is coooooooooooooking? Sorry bro, lunch breaks over.
huh.. It does kinda seem like maybe they had a ton of conduit, no LB, and a lot of time lol.
Saved roughly 20 degrees by not doing box offsets though
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I see a ton of access couplings
Access couplings lol. Love it
The part that baffles me the most is where they go out of their way to get around that ledge, instead of just. Straight. 180 degrees right there for no particular reason.
Couldn’t do back to back…to back 90’s that close 🤷♂️
Are you talking about those four back to backs in the third and fourth pictures? If they went straight across that low point the corners of the concrete would be inside the radius. They would have had a gap of a few inches. What they did is actually how you would get around the outside of a corner as tight as possible. To get around one corner is a back to back, to get around two corners is two back to backs. I actually can't fault their technique getting around those obstacles, but when you put it all together it looks pretty stupid. This is a case where the foreman should have ordered three LBs for all the outside corners.
Crazyness those 3 LBs would’ve costed a hundred dollars we’d rather pay 6 guys 4 hours to pull this monstrosity and it still be done wrong
This wouldn’t really take that long to pipe. A couple hours maybe. They didn’t whole stick it so that makes it faster, plus there’s a lot of symmetry so some of your bends you could do twice with the same measurements. There are also a lot of places where you can break the run in half to fish it. If they actually piped all the way to the last light you wouldn’t need a ground, so two wires. This wouldn’t be that hard to pull either. Mounting the lights, piping, pulling, and trimming should take one guy most of the day.
So if you pipe box to box you don’t use a ground wire? 🤔🧐 you must be joking
The pipe counts as the ground. You have to make sure you've bonded everything back to the panel. 250.118(2) Emt is an equipment grounding conductor.
Nowhere I've worked lets you get away with that. Inspectors say no because they've seen too many couplings that aren't tighted down. And they're right, I see them all the time too. It may be legal, but it's bad practice.
What can they do though? The code prescribes the minimum requirements for an installation and the inspector is there to enforce that minimum. They may not like it, but what can they actually ding you on? You’d be surprised what the code will let you get away with. Everyone I know thinks every FMC whip needs a ground, but the same article says if your whip 6’ and under, uses listed fittings, is under 1-1/4” in trade size, protected by a 20 amp breaker, and not prone to vibration you don’t need a ground. So what is the book trying to say there? Lighting whips don’t need grounds, the FMC counts.
Funny you assume there was a foreman involved at all.
They would’ve had like 3 inches less clearance for vehicles if they went straight. The 2nd and 5th 90 are more like 85 so they’re flush on bottom.
huh, guess I learned something today. Thanks!
You guys are looking at it all wrong, the last 6 90’s cancel out the first 3… so in reality it’s a zero degree run I kinda appreciate it, defiantly a hold my beer run
But fitting, did you see? He used inside couplings
Never heard of a “Anybody” or a LB I guess lol so many unnecessary 90’s because of it
No pull box and more then 360 degrees in total bends and to top it off no box for the light lol
Someone get the fish tape, I got this
I'll take that bet.
Better be a milwaukee polyester tape with a bit of solid taped on to make that sum bitch go.
my milwaukee polyester isn't stiff enough to get through a run like that. it glides super easy up until 300 degrees and turns into a limp noodle. the speed leader I have on my steel ideal has gotten through up to 800. just have to cut off the factory head and torch it to install. takes 5 min
Tape a little solid a few inches and it pushes like a champ.
It's all in the hips
That's hideous
They pulled at the coupling.
They pulled the wire length then slid the pipe on as they went is the only explanation i can think of
They pulled the wire length then slid the pipe on as they went is the only explanation i can think of
Couplings. Can't do multiple bends when you're this advanced.
Ehh it’s ok, for me it’s fine. For you, you no like, I fix no problem. Thank you sir.
I can’t believe they didn’t use a plastic bang on bushing. Also, I love set screws outside.
I bet the guy who did this was real proud of his work too
This is what happens when the boss says "I want the whole run tight to the concrete and don't block the sign" doesn't order any LBs, and leaves for the day.
Damn🤔🤦
To much time on my hands, ticking away!!!!
I guess pull elbows are non existent in this universe
Ahh, the ole "I know a guy" situation.
8 90’s… interesting
Reminds me of the guys who say “I only cut conduit at the end of the run”
That paint job with no regards to the surface behind
Thank god he didn’t put an offset in it he would’ve gone over his bending radius
The trick is to pull the wire as you install the conduit.
Looks to me that he didn't have a way to cut the pipe and used "all of it "
I was enjoying it until the last slide
Ima snakeeee
This is the conduit that comes with the wire already inside. Just bend and install. The ends will make up on their own.
If the back to back 90s didn't have a coupling I'd be impressed
Black and white straight out the pipe 🤣
I personally thought the paint job was awful
And the hairpin curve was required to reach 360 deg
Time and materials job
I counted about 8.5 90’s
Best ending shot EVER
lol
I like it 🤷♂️
LB’s, never heard of them.
I'm curious behind the thought process of this disaster. If there was any ...
I think I see 810 degrees of bending with no pull point lol
First glance I thought that was done in sealtite, what with all of the unnecessary bends and everything
This just can't be. This was not done by an electrician, let alone an apprentice.
Was it made of scraps?
It’s led no box required
Supply house out of pulling ells
Someone's been playing waaaay too much snake.
All that amazing pipework, and he forgot the fucking box. Unbelievable.
That would fail inspection where i live
All that bending, and couldn’t be bothered to do an offset.
JW: "Foreman said he is not gonna go to the supply house for anything else, and it needs done today." Apprentice: "But, we need connectors and LBS" JW: "I know, but we can only work with what we got, dont even have the fixture yet, we can pull the wire in and they can just bust a coupling to pull it back a lil and shove it in the connector/fixture later." *One week later, the fixture arrives and the foreman is looking at the run.* Foreman: "Shit, I forgot to get a pendant kit for that light, itll be fine, eh, its under an awning." *Forman procedes to grab the first year 3-week on the job Apprentice and instructs him to "get it up for now"*
How to turn a few hours into two days!
I guess you don’t need a pull point if you pull wire as you set pipe. This could end up being a new standard
This is a work of art
"that's beautiful, now take it down"
There's a pull point, you just have to pull to the first half of that 180 degree bend before you put the coupling on, and then feed the rest of the pipe over the wire...
You bend it you pull it, wise guy. I’ll be in the van lmk when you’re done hahaha
“Didn’t have an LB with me”
The lengths this person went through to just do completely unnecessary shit, is admirable.
Well the other light came wired up with 38’ of prewired conduit… so I just had to get her to the other light! But man- the other light is so cheap! Didn’t even have a plug on it! So the only option I had was to bareback my cable in and coil it. I sure hope it works.
And you know someone was proud of that work too… smh…
When the game of Snake never quite leaves your head from the old Nokia days. Should've played Mario bros instead.
That's 8 90s and a kick. Wtf. "We'll call it 360. No one will ever know"
And the set screw connectors... Smh
Damn! I got seasick looking at it
Not gonna lie, that’s kind of impressive.
I also wonder if he or she is color blind and ran out of rain tight fittings?
There's at least 9 bends right there...
Brocephus. W. T. F.
I feel like this was actually harder to do lol
Genius
Fukin beaut
lord Zeus almighty god of the spooky sparkies. Like 800° of bend in one run. Who left their apprentice unattended?
‘Ryan Reynolds Dr. “but why?”’
The pull points were after each coupling, I guarantee they put the pipe over the wire instead of the other way around. Some maintenance guy was super proud of that 6-90 saddle abortion, as for the kick thing I don't know what they were thinking
I think that’s a few more that 360 degrees between boxes
Like 450⁰ extra degrees
Holy crap! It kept going as I watched in awe and wonder…. Then I saw the last picture and died.
They got the conductors thru it, what's the problem?
Just run bx lol holy shit.
Kossé ça tabarnak
👏👏👏
What is an LB or Street 90
How many degrees of bend is that?
Beautiful PVC work 💯✨🔥
Those poor first years
All those bends and didn’t throw in a box offset… that transition was pretty cool tho.
The 3 martini lunch strikes again!
Sometimes it takes so much talent to be so wrong
Ok, who the fuck did this
This trade is funny.. it really shows you how people think and what they try. But I'm not going to lie.. that situation is a tricky one. I personally would have gone through the block so it went through straight .. instead of that third photo, 90s villa
The fact they actually pulled that is amazing.
Nice Set Screws!
A few j boxes and this guy could have had a clue lol
Couldve of offset under at least.
Wow
I remember my first time running pipe lol
FUCKIN NICE
can’t believe you pulled the license plate of that car just to post this picture
I think your a tad ove 360° there.
Fun time in Mexico?
If I pipe it I can pull it!! WTF ever hear of pulling elbows.
My arm hurts just looking at this.
Trying to use enough one hole straps to somehow distract everyone from how grossly over on bends they are 😂
someone was practicing for their pipe bending final.
And no box offset
Lmaoooo it just keeps going. My man has literally never seen a junction box in his life.
I love it
There’s about 795 degrees of bends in this pipe run but didn’t bother with a box offset for the light on the wall. 😂😂
I triple dog dare you!!
This must be a riddle for batman
Way over 360. If he had used a connector going into the light base I would have been impressed. This is what happens when the foreman gives your check in the AM but expects you to work the rest of the day.
😆
lol all of that, but no box offset
Glad bro didn't become a plumber. Did he?
It looks like the conduit was made to go around the pole, the light fixtures was moved, and most likely the client did not want to pay for new conduit, a junction box needs to be installed at the light fixture , and the painter did a smashed up paint job, so all in all, it looks like a amateur did this or it was a DIY project
What in the paid by the hour is going on here
At what point is the conduit energized? Guesses?
Yep, that guy had too much time on his hands and needs to be fired.
For a few different reasons