To be fair Mas ok pa ang JW sa INC. bakit ko nasabi eh sa JW wala sayo magbabanta kapag kinalaban mo sila sa INC meron. ang JW naniniwala na Dapat Basahin ang Biblia sa INC PASUGO lang ang dapat mo basahin. At sa JW magagalang pa makitungo ang karamihan ng Membro eh ang INC naku pag nanonood ako ng Debate bastos ang mga membro
regarding the Teaching Angwls and Jesus Christ if you carefully Study the Early Protestants and Bible Scholars they also belief that Jesus Christ is also Michael Archangel so i think the JW is not alone in this belief. Also the SDA belief in this Teachings
Since open naman na kayo to get out of the cult. Why not try to explore others, kung hindi ka din pabor sa JW ay mag play ka ng mga ibang sermon from other sects para masabi mo na sinuri ko ang lahat at sa puso ko, dito sa sektang ito ko naramdaman ang Espiritu Santo.
JW, they don't believe in hell, for them it's only a grave. They don't believe in eternal condemnation, for them, damned people will just be vanished from existence after the 1000 years of falling to a cliff with Satan and will have no chance to have eternal life with God in His Kingdom, they believe that would be their end because God is not Evil. On the contrary, to what the Bible says is that there is really an eternal condemnation, opposite of eternal life, which people should fear. It is God's wrath and justice, and that if heaven is real, so is hell where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. And what I've observed, they are more disciplined and obeys their doctrine than Incults especially when having romantic relationships, they do not have any with the taga sanlibutan.
Both INC and JW have their own website that you can check on. INCmedia for INC and JW.org for Jehovah Witness. It's better to search their teachings before you jump into.
You will never know unless you study the Bible with JWs. Tell them you only want to study but no plan to convert in any religion as you are trying to see the difference.
Actually when i was like 5 my mother and I (though I did not exactly remember how I was also dragged there) went to bible studies with the JWs very often cuz she is really really religious and the teachings there probably convinced her to convert to jw.
INC is a sub religion of JW. Cult members lurking in this sub would vehemently deny this without researching why Felix even went to the states and what college he was going into.
Thanks for sharing your story. It's unfortunate that your mom is addicted to cult organization. IMO There isn't that much difference between INC and JW - they both control members. Please note that I'm Agnostic and therefore, I am weary and treat ALL religious organization as suspect. I'm not going to review about INCULT doctrine since we're all familiar with. Therefore, I'll write down about JW!
According to their website: Jehovah's Witness (JW) believe that Jesus Christ began to rule in heaven as king of God's kingdom in 1914 and that Satan was subsequently ousted from heave to the earth, resulting in "woe" to humanity. They believe that Jesus rules visibly from heaven, perceived only as a series of "sians."
Per Christianity .com: JW started in 1870 led by Charles Taze Russell with their Bible studies and founded the religion in PIttsburgh, Pennsylvania. He died in 1916 and Joseph Franklin Rutherford became their leader. He further developed the JW's teaching and making it more organized and centralized. He changed the Watch Tower Society aggressively in spreading their beliefs. He also included new doctrines that the world would end in 1925. Russell died and Rutherford died in 1942.
When Rutherford died and Knorr took over and he continued to expand Rutherford's policies by establishing Watch Tower Bibile School of Gilead (South Lansing, New York) to train missionaries and leaders. He emphasized the door-to-door preaching. JW claimed "Jehovah is the personal name of God, as found in the Bible (EXODUS 6:3; PSALM 83:18). They used a Bible translation called the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION in which JW's own translation, no other religious group uses this Bible and JW's make very little use of other Bibles.
JW do not believe in the Trinity which is in common with INCULT. JW believe in a unitarian view of God where God is considered a single of divine entity and not a triune being. JW claimed that the Bible never explicitly mentions the terms "trinity."
Further JW don't celebrate Christmas or Easter which makes sense when they don't believe that Jesus is equal to God. They also do not celebrate other national holidays in an attempt to remain separate from the world.
JW also try to remain politically neutral, and they don't believe in serving in politics or in the military, mainly to distance themselves to distance from the mainstream culture.
JW hold controversial view of rejecting blood transfusions, even in life-or-death situations.
To attain salvation in JW, the members must live in accordance with the teachings of the Watchtower Society which includes door-to-door evangelism, following moral and ethical standards and be active in the JW's community.
The majority of JW's hope for salvation in a restored paradise on Earth. They believe that God's original purpose for humanity was to live forever in a paradise on Earth, and this purpose will be fulfilled in the future.
Those with the earthly hope believe that only a limited number of 144,000 individuals known as the "anointed class" will go to heaven to rule with Christ. The rest of the faithful Witnesses will be resurrected on Earth and will have the opportunity to live in a are stored paradise after Armageddon.
They don't celebrate birthday at kahit yong lupang hinirang ay hindi nila sinasapuso dahil iyon taw ay pagsamba tas para sa kanila ang tunay na pangalan ng Diyos ay Jehova which is not. Yhwh tas gagawung Jehova?. Nah
Ang Kristo sa kanila ay si Archangel Miguel.
and SOME OF DOCTRINES ARE SAME OF IGLESIA NI MANALO
THE EARLY MANALITAS ARE BELIEVING THAT JEHOVAH IS THE FATHER FELIX ACCEPT THE TEACHINGS OF JW THAT JEHOVAH IS THE ONE TRUE GOD, JUST TO PROVE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD,
Yes I TAUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE
BASE ON MY OWN STUDY AND OBSERVATION
THE TRUE RELIGION IS JEHOVAHS WITNESS
THEY ARE THE ONE WHO REALLY FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS CHRIST
it is so long to elaborate here but you can see it to them in the way of their living
>she only sees JW as the "true religion"
That's basically what the INCult said too.
What your family experienced in INCult will be the same with JW.
Tell your mom you guys are just switching from one cult to another.
tell to your mom, she can just go online muna. Hindi need n magpunta sa simbahan agad. hindi yon pinipilit. what's important una personal relationship with Father God. kpg meron n nito, established n to, Xa n maglilead sa inyo saan kaung church o kung ano ang gusto niang gwin nio. Hindi nmn dn kz tlga lht ay for church (i mean the building) workers. Ang iba, sa labas ng building n to tintlga. Kya importante una ang relasyon k Father God pra mlman ni mom mo sn xa.
The fact that the Jehovah's Witnesses disfellowship people for disagreeing with them, meaning virtually no contact, even if they are family members, is something you should keep in mind. That and not only are members not allowed to celebrate birthdays, they are encouraged to even avoid celebrating others' birthdays or participating in such celebrations. Seeing all the anecdotes of kids growing up and going to the library whenever their friends or classmates have a birthday party is disheartening.
As an ex-jw, I totally agree. As a kid that was raised inside that religion, I feel like I missed out a lot growing up. When I was disfellowed, I didnt feel any regret leaving the church. I regret getting baptized in the first place. This caused a lot of drama in our family and literally destroyed my relationship with them. Until now, they are not talking so much to me.
Be careful saying this because the **theists** like to claim that atheism is a new religion or a new ideology of sorts, and that atheists are organizing some type of demonic movement of the devil to lead the believers astray. We know this isn't true.
Atheists simply do not believe in any gods or deities in the same way we don't believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy. We live our lives governed by reality rather than superstition.
Where did you hear that stupid shit?
Atheism has been around since the dawn of ages. If you don't know well now you know.
>Atheists simply do not believe in any gods or deities in the same way we don't believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy. We live our lives governed by reality rather than superstition.
No shit Sherlock.
At ease, soldier.
I don't know why you're coming at me all hostile. I'm atheist myself so you're preaching to the choir here.
I stated what some THEISTS like to claim, as I've heard it before.
The only one here making a fuss is you.
What exactly is the point you're trying to make with your condescending comments? All you did was re-state what I said in different words.
What's obvious to you may not be obvious to everyone else. We're all here to learn, and you aren't the only one here reading comments.
At ease soldier. I am merely trying to get to the bottom of your funny rhetoric. If one could call it that.
My purpose here is to have a heavy dose of an intellectually penetrating conversation with ex-INC members... and not be a poser.
Then perhaps my comment was confusing.
Maybe I can clarify:
Original comment stated that "Atheist is the best religion".
Of course, I didn't take this literally and I'm aware that the original commenter did not mean this literally. Atheism is not a religion, and while that is obvious to you, me, the original commenter and most readers here, it isn't to *everyone*.
Now, the intention behind my comment was to draw attention to the fact that there are some religious zealots that believe and peddle the notion that atheism is some type of evil organized movement, when in fact, atheism is simply a lack of belief in any deities.
My hope was to clarify to anyone reading the original comment, that atheism in not a religious movement, but rather, the lack thereof. Again, that's obvious to many of us, but I know first hand from conversations with religious people and fellow INC members that some of them have the wrong understanding of atheism.
I hope this clears up what I meant with my original comment, yet I still don't quite understand what about my comment rubbed you the wrong way.
>Now, the intention behind my comment was to draw attention to the fact that there are some religious zealots that believe and peddle the notion that atheism is some type of evil organized movement, when in fact, atheism is simply a lack of belief in any deities.
Atheism is simply a rejection of belief in God.
Here's what I've found online to delve deeper into the subject. Oh and btw, I am an atheist myself.
Excerpt
Philosophical models not falling within established religious structures, such as Daoism, Confucianism, Epicureanism, Deism, and Pandeism, have also been considered to be NONTHEISTIC religions. The Church of Satan adheres to LaVeyan Satanism, which is nontheistic (the evil organized movement you are talking about perhaps?)
Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, and Jainism are all considered atheists. We could also throw Hinduism there (excerpt: Hinduism is sometimes considered nontheistic because it emphasizes following one's dharma, or duty, more than worshiping deities).
Three types of Atheism:
The non-religious, the nonbelievers, and the agnostic.
Let's hope that some of these answers will enlighten those 'too lazy to even look up the answer' bastards.
>I hope this clears up what I meant with my original comment, yet I still don't quite understand what about my comment rubbed you the wrong way
Don't worry about a thing.
**Cultural**
They believe they are the chosen ones by God which shows superiority and they don't celebrate holidays that have pagan origins (birthday, new year and etc). They avoid participating in society (e.g. voting during election) because they believe the world is evil or condemned already so they avoid any effort to repair it.
**Theologically**
They believe Jesus is the Incarnation of St. Michael the Archangel but when Jesus was born he had only one nature which is human nature (not spirit, divine or angelic nature) which is absurd to be honest.
Are you for real?
It might be I'm using the wrong term **Incarnation**
But can you care to explain this official doctrine on **JW Website** ?
*... So the Bible speaks of both Michael and “his angels” and Jesus and “his angels.” (Matthew 13:41; 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22) Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role.*
https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-teach/who-is-michael-the-archangel-jesus/
If you don't call that **Incarnation** then what is it? Michael is alternative name for Jesus?
These Fringe Religions claiming to be followers of Christ are a disgrace to Mainstream Christianity in general which make Christianity look stupid in the whole world.
I've been telling that to her (despite being an atheist) but she only ever asks me if I want to return to being a catholic just bcos I'm so against inc 🥹🥹🥹
At least there is more freedom being catholic, but I dislike the rules, some of their quirks, and dogmas 😑 But it's a good start that your mother is doubting inc, but if only I can go to your house, I would tell her not to join JW.
You can read a lot about JW here in reddit.
Tell her no more organized religion..it all boils down to Contributions / Donations👌💰 others are just subtle, but most are very pressing like the INCULT😣
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To be fair Mas ok pa ang JW sa INC. bakit ko nasabi eh sa JW wala sayo magbabanta kapag kinalaban mo sila sa INC meron. ang JW naniniwala na Dapat Basahin ang Biblia sa INC PASUGO lang ang dapat mo basahin. At sa JW magagalang pa makitungo ang karamihan ng Membro eh ang INC naku pag nanonood ako ng Debate bastos ang mga membro
regarding the Teaching Angwls and Jesus Christ if you carefully Study the Early Protestants and Bible Scholars they also belief that Jesus Christ is also Michael Archangel so i think the JW is not alone in this belief. Also the SDA belief in this Teachings
Since open naman na kayo to get out of the cult. Why not try to explore others, kung hindi ka din pabor sa JW ay mag play ka ng mga ibang sermon from other sects para masabi mo na sinuri ko ang lahat at sa puso ko, dito sa sektang ito ko naramdaman ang Espiritu Santo.
Is JW less cultish than INC though?
Nope, same same
JW, they don't believe in hell, for them it's only a grave. They don't believe in eternal condemnation, for them, damned people will just be vanished from existence after the 1000 years of falling to a cliff with Satan and will have no chance to have eternal life with God in His Kingdom, they believe that would be their end because God is not Evil. On the contrary, to what the Bible says is that there is really an eternal condemnation, opposite of eternal life, which people should fear. It is God's wrath and justice, and that if heaven is real, so is hell where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. And what I've observed, they are more disciplined and obeys their doctrine than Incults especially when having romantic relationships, they do not have any with the taga sanlibutan.
Both INC and JW have their own website that you can check on. INCmedia for INC and JW.org for Jehovah Witness. It's better to search their teachings before you jump into.
You will never know unless you study the Bible with JWs. Tell them you only want to study but no plan to convert in any religion as you are trying to see the difference.
Actually when i was like 5 my mother and I (though I did not exactly remember how I was also dragged there) went to bible studies with the JWs very often cuz she is really really religious and the teachings there probably convinced her to convert to jw.
We are accounted with every decision we made for ourselves. We have a freedom to choose what we wanted to be.
INC is a sub religion of JW. Cult members lurking in this sub would vehemently deny this without researching why Felix even went to the states and what college he was going into.
Thanks for sharing your story. It's unfortunate that your mom is addicted to cult organization. IMO There isn't that much difference between INC and JW - they both control members. Please note that I'm Agnostic and therefore, I am weary and treat ALL religious organization as suspect. I'm not going to review about INCULT doctrine since we're all familiar with. Therefore, I'll write down about JW! According to their website: Jehovah's Witness (JW) believe that Jesus Christ began to rule in heaven as king of God's kingdom in 1914 and that Satan was subsequently ousted from heave to the earth, resulting in "woe" to humanity. They believe that Jesus rules visibly from heaven, perceived only as a series of "sians." Per Christianity .com: JW started in 1870 led by Charles Taze Russell with their Bible studies and founded the religion in PIttsburgh, Pennsylvania. He died in 1916 and Joseph Franklin Rutherford became their leader. He further developed the JW's teaching and making it more organized and centralized. He changed the Watch Tower Society aggressively in spreading their beliefs. He also included new doctrines that the world would end in 1925. Russell died and Rutherford died in 1942. When Rutherford died and Knorr took over and he continued to expand Rutherford's policies by establishing Watch Tower Bibile School of Gilead (South Lansing, New York) to train missionaries and leaders. He emphasized the door-to-door preaching. JW claimed "Jehovah is the personal name of God, as found in the Bible (EXODUS 6:3; PSALM 83:18). They used a Bible translation called the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION in which JW's own translation, no other religious group uses this Bible and JW's make very little use of other Bibles. JW do not believe in the Trinity which is in common with INCULT. JW believe in a unitarian view of God where God is considered a single of divine entity and not a triune being. JW claimed that the Bible never explicitly mentions the terms "trinity." Further JW don't celebrate Christmas or Easter which makes sense when they don't believe that Jesus is equal to God. They also do not celebrate other national holidays in an attempt to remain separate from the world. JW also try to remain politically neutral, and they don't believe in serving in politics or in the military, mainly to distance themselves to distance from the mainstream culture. JW hold controversial view of rejecting blood transfusions, even in life-or-death situations. To attain salvation in JW, the members must live in accordance with the teachings of the Watchtower Society which includes door-to-door evangelism, following moral and ethical standards and be active in the JW's community. The majority of JW's hope for salvation in a restored paradise on Earth. They believe that God's original purpose for humanity was to live forever in a paradise on Earth, and this purpose will be fulfilled in the future. Those with the earthly hope believe that only a limited number of 144,000 individuals known as the "anointed class" will go to heaven to rule with Christ. The rest of the faithful Witnesses will be resurrected on Earth and will have the opportunity to live in a are stored paradise after Armageddon.
Susceptible talaga sa cults mga parents natin 🥲
Left a cult to join another. Lol
They don't celebrate birthday at kahit yong lupang hinirang ay hindi nila sinasapuso dahil iyon taw ay pagsamba tas para sa kanila ang tunay na pangalan ng Diyos ay Jehova which is not. Yhwh tas gagawung Jehova?. Nah Ang Kristo sa kanila ay si Archangel Miguel.
Another reason why ayoko magconvert to JW 😂 Pano kung magbday crush ko???
Weird ang docrine ng JW, ang heaven sa kanila ay itong mismong Earth haha
and SOME OF DOCTRINES ARE SAME OF IGLESIA NI MANALO THE EARLY MANALITAS ARE BELIEVING THAT JEHOVAH IS THE FATHER FELIX ACCEPT THE TEACHINGS OF JW THAT JEHOVAH IS THE ONE TRUE GOD, JUST TO PROVE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD,
If you have children, I hope they can think critically and aren't as gullible as you are.
Yes I TAUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE BASE ON MY OWN STUDY AND OBSERVATION THE TRUE RELIGION IS JEHOVAHS WITNESS THEY ARE THE ONE WHO REALLY FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS CHRIST it is so long to elaborate here but you can see it to them in the way of their living
nah man i dont think theres a "true religion" cuz religions are made to control ppl from what Ive seen
hi atheist can we be friend in other social media platform
*sighs in atheist* You're joking, right? Please tell me you're joking.
INC is nothing more than the Filipino lovechild of JW and Scientology. KEEP OUT
hindi ba pwedeng magpahinga muna sa mga panlilinlang ng mga lider ng relihiyon at dumerecho muna tayo sa Diyos?
Dumerecho na sa Diyos. The leaders are just humans with flaws and lies.
>she only sees JW as the "true religion" That's basically what the INCult said too. What your family experienced in INCult will be the same with JW. Tell your mom you guys are just switching from one cult to another.
tell to your mom, she can just go online muna. Hindi need n magpunta sa simbahan agad. hindi yon pinipilit. what's important una personal relationship with Father God. kpg meron n nito, established n to, Xa n maglilead sa inyo saan kaung church o kung ano ang gusto niang gwin nio. Hindi nmn dn kz tlga lht ay for church (i mean the building) workers. Ang iba, sa labas ng building n to tintlga. Kya importante una ang relasyon k Father God pra mlman ni mom mo sn xa.
Different toilet, same shit.
The fact that the Jehovah's Witnesses disfellowship people for disagreeing with them, meaning virtually no contact, even if they are family members, is something you should keep in mind. That and not only are members not allowed to celebrate birthdays, they are encouraged to even avoid celebrating others' birthdays or participating in such celebrations. Seeing all the anecdotes of kids growing up and going to the library whenever their friends or classmates have a birthday party is disheartening.
As an ex-jw, I totally agree. As a kid that was raised inside that religion, I feel like I missed out a lot growing up. When I was disfellowed, I didnt feel any regret leaving the church. I regret getting baptized in the first place. This caused a lot of drama in our family and literally destroyed my relationship with them. Until now, they are not talking so much to me.
Best religion is atheist ❤️
Be careful saying this because the **theists** like to claim that atheism is a new religion or a new ideology of sorts, and that atheists are organizing some type of demonic movement of the devil to lead the believers astray. We know this isn't true. Atheists simply do not believe in any gods or deities in the same way we don't believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy. We live our lives governed by reality rather than superstition.
Where did you hear that stupid shit? Atheism has been around since the dawn of ages. If you don't know well now you know. >Atheists simply do not believe in any gods or deities in the same way we don't believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy. We live our lives governed by reality rather than superstition. No shit Sherlock.
At ease, soldier. I don't know why you're coming at me all hostile. I'm atheist myself so you're preaching to the choir here. I stated what some THEISTS like to claim, as I've heard it before.
Well if you know what they said isn't true, then why make a fuss of it? For a self-claimed atheist, I just hope your favorite expression isn't OMG.
The only one here making a fuss is you. What exactly is the point you're trying to make with your condescending comments? All you did was re-state what I said in different words. What's obvious to you may not be obvious to everyone else. We're all here to learn, and you aren't the only one here reading comments.
At ease soldier. I am merely trying to get to the bottom of your funny rhetoric. If one could call it that. My purpose here is to have a heavy dose of an intellectually penetrating conversation with ex-INC members... and not be a poser.
Then perhaps my comment was confusing. Maybe I can clarify: Original comment stated that "Atheist is the best religion". Of course, I didn't take this literally and I'm aware that the original commenter did not mean this literally. Atheism is not a religion, and while that is obvious to you, me, the original commenter and most readers here, it isn't to *everyone*. Now, the intention behind my comment was to draw attention to the fact that there are some religious zealots that believe and peddle the notion that atheism is some type of evil organized movement, when in fact, atheism is simply a lack of belief in any deities. My hope was to clarify to anyone reading the original comment, that atheism in not a religious movement, but rather, the lack thereof. Again, that's obvious to many of us, but I know first hand from conversations with religious people and fellow INC members that some of them have the wrong understanding of atheism. I hope this clears up what I meant with my original comment, yet I still don't quite understand what about my comment rubbed you the wrong way.
>Now, the intention behind my comment was to draw attention to the fact that there are some religious zealots that believe and peddle the notion that atheism is some type of evil organized movement, when in fact, atheism is simply a lack of belief in any deities. Atheism is simply a rejection of belief in God. Here's what I've found online to delve deeper into the subject. Oh and btw, I am an atheist myself. Excerpt Philosophical models not falling within established religious structures, such as Daoism, Confucianism, Epicureanism, Deism, and Pandeism, have also been considered to be NONTHEISTIC religions. The Church of Satan adheres to LaVeyan Satanism, which is nontheistic (the evil organized movement you are talking about perhaps?) Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, and Jainism are all considered atheists. We could also throw Hinduism there (excerpt: Hinduism is sometimes considered nontheistic because it emphasizes following one's dharma, or duty, more than worshiping deities). Three types of Atheism: The non-religious, the nonbelievers, and the agnostic. Let's hope that some of these answers will enlighten those 'too lazy to even look up the answer' bastards. >I hope this clears up what I meant with my original comment, yet I still don't quite understand what about my comment rubbed you the wrong way Don't worry about a thing.
**Cultural** They believe they are the chosen ones by God which shows superiority and they don't celebrate holidays that have pagan origins (birthday, new year and etc). They avoid participating in society (e.g. voting during election) because they believe the world is evil or condemned already so they avoid any effort to repair it. **Theologically** They believe Jesus is the Incarnation of St. Michael the Archangel but when Jesus was born he had only one nature which is human nature (not spirit, divine or angelic nature) which is absurd to be honest.
Had a discussion with cousin about that🤭 JWs don't believe in Incarnation by the way 🤣🤣🤣
Are you for real? It might be I'm using the wrong term **Incarnation** But can you care to explain this official doctrine on **JW Website** ? *... So the Bible speaks of both Michael and “his angels” and Jesus and “his angels.” (Matthew 13:41; 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22) Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role.* https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-teach/who-is-michael-the-archangel-jesus/ If you don't call that **Incarnation** then what is it? Michael is alternative name for Jesus? These Fringe Religions claiming to be followers of Christ are a disgrace to Mainstream Christianity in general which make Christianity look stupid in the whole world.
wait what????? me: shocked
Bawal blood transfusion, holidays, at birthday sa JW. Tell your mom, you can still honor and have faith in God even without religion.
I've been telling that to her (despite being an atheist) but she only ever asks me if I want to return to being a catholic just bcos I'm so against inc 🥹🥹🥹
At least there is more freedom being catholic, but I dislike the rules, some of their quirks, and dogmas 😑 But it's a good start that your mother is doubting inc, but if only I can go to your house, I would tell her not to join JW. You can read a lot about JW here in reddit.
Because they are sweet people. Jehovas Sweetness 💗💖💞❣️💓💘
Tell her no more organized religion..it all boils down to Contributions / Donations👌💰 others are just subtle, but most are very pressing like the INCULT😣
Parehas kulto
From one cult to another.
Exactly why I don't want to convert to JW 😭 Just wanna be freed from this cult cuz it's making me sick just by attending worship services
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