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bballaddict8

Seems like you got a get-out-of-jail free card. Hold on to that one.


MVXX_the-mango

Will do boss šŸ«”šŸ«”


Wut_elduhz_boohk_say

Absolutely this! Time to be free!


OldExplanation8468

Are you saying that 4 elders and some of their wifes use weed? I'm interested if there is any "secret update" I just discovered that there is no more articles talking shit about father's day, would be interesting if something similar happened with weed.


MVXX_the-mango

Yes! As well as some other people who are active in the congregation. It has them all listed as recreational in our system, as opposed to medical. This whole situation is funny asf to me šŸ’€


Effective_Date_9736

If this is true, then you are in the unique position of able to disfellowship or at least destroy the entire body of elder. https://preview.redd.it/tm2qcctip57d1.png?width=548&format=png&auto=webp&s=15e51bb149589cc0310591cb8b820ce47b01d2d8


OldExplanation8468

Yep, hope OP do something with that info, sadly the reason of hypocrisy is because many people keep quiet, for sure is gonna be a problem if you don't want to be df too, but something should happen with this info.


MVXX_the-mango

Iā€™m unbaptized šŸ«”šŸ«” so no DF for me


turbochariot

Straight up reverse UNO card right here šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Truthdoesntchange

Absolutely NOTHING should happen with this info. Customers have the right to privacy and if OP breaches that by sharing names of customers, he could - and should - be fired. Unless youā€™re willing to replace OPs income should he experience a job loss (which would undoubtedly impact his ability to use the dispensary as a reference when seeking future employment) and cover any legal fees he could potentially incur should the dispensary or any of the customers chose to pursue legal action against him, itā€™s incredibly stupid and reckless to encourage him to ā€œdo somethingā€ with the info.


MVXX_the-mango

Iā€™m not going to leak it to anyone, dw! I just thought it was kinda interesting. My daughter and I live with my PIMI dad and stepmom, so I want keep our living situation as calm as possible. Thanks for your concern though!


iAdden

Donā€™t actively go out and tell people, but if any of the elders threaten you with anything, feel free to hold it over their heads.


OldExplanation8468

Its like that situation that watchtower show on an article telling about a sister who works at a hospital and notice that another sister have an appointment to do an abortion but in this case, weed.


Truthdoesntchange

Sort of. weed is a much lesser ā€œsinā€ according to JWs. abortions or blood transfusion are judicial situations where as occasional weed use can just be a matter of ā€œcounselā€ (at least the first time according to old friends of mine who got caught). Either way, good thing OP isnā€™t a PIMI baptized JW where he has to deal with that kind of ā€œmoral dilemma.ā€ You did get me wondering if any JW nurse or tech has ever been sued for violating HIPPA to report someone getting an abortion of blood transfusion.


OldExplanation8468

Will be pretty interesting if that is the case, they would be even in more problems for the coercion trying persuade her to not do it.


Rebeldinho

Itā€™s the rules for thee not for me attitude that OP could maybe illuminate for some of the other members


Spiritual-Station-51

Yeah but she risks losing her job by exposing all the witnesses. But if it were me Iā€™d take that chance. Or she should approach her boss and let her boss know how much shit sheā€™s been thru in the cong with elders and now this. The owner just might let her expose them all. Iā€™d LOVE to see this hit the newspapers


MVXX_the-mango

Iā€™m a guy lmao. I just thought it was funny. Not my place to expose anyone! My daughterā€™s mom left us and weā€™re staying with my PIMI family. My coworkers know I was raised JW tho. Thatā€™s always a fun conversation


Spiritual-Station-51

Oops sorry I did t catch the gender thing lol


[deleted]

No, not just the body of elders. Right now, we are looking at Thanos holding the infinity glove with all stones! Hahahah I would love to work at my local dispo just to check the accounts on my local area and see whoā€™s living the DOUBLE LIFE.


FlowerPower670

šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£


Lucii88

i love itšŸ˜‚


saltyDog_73

they aren't even trying to hide it!! Rec vs Med. If they don't have a medical card, then this is a big red flag. You should send an anonymous letter to the CO and the Branch and maybe even a neighboring elder body. Back in the day, there would be a huge cleaning of the house and a whole new body brought in, nowadays, who knows what they would do?


QuietBit8

They don't have enough men. They won't do a thing. Maybe a talk about how drugs are bad and that's it.


NiceBedSheets

*Like bro, Iā€™m just following the laws of the authorities, man*


NJRach

Weed is allowed for medical reasons. Not surprising a bunch of elders would be partaking šŸ˜‚ Iā€™ve had my med card since the pandemic & im surprised I havenā€™t run into anyone from the congregation at the dispo. The way JWs are both depressed and sick, Iā€™m sure more than half the congregation qualifies for a med card in my state.


MVXX_the-mango

Yeah lmao. I know that part, but theyā€™re recreational, not medical. In our system when we scan IDā€™s it either pops up medical in which weā€™d also need to see that med card, or recreational.


NJRach

Interesting! You could cause a lot of havoc for them, if you wanted to.


MVXX_the-mango

The chaos goblin in me wants to so bad XD If my daughter and I werenā€™t living with my dad i definitely would. Baby girl takes priority. As soon as we get an apartment tho?? Thatā€™s a whole different story


NJRach

Well, itā€™s the smart thing to prioritize your daughterā€™s welfare. Hope youā€™re able to get out soon.


MVXX_the-mango

Thank you! Sheā€™ll always come first


bestlivesever

Better to let them continue and let the borg go down in smoke


Wonderful_Minute2031

I know people that were told that itā€™s not approved even for medicinal uses. Itā€™s so frustrating that the elders are allowed to do so many things that the friends arenā€™t. The friends would never even know if there was a secret update to the elders book. But thereā€™s a sentence in the elder book that says if they sin and no one finds out then they are ok and donā€™t need to confess it. Why do they get special treatment?


margovanax

"the friends" šŸ˜† I totally forgot about that phrase, it's one I made fun of even back when I was still indoctrinated


_ridges_

There are plenty of meds that we can consume without a prescription [or card, in this case] to treat ailments. Cards require extra process and expense, and many may not see the benefit of getting the med discount, if any, if they're light consumers. They may get burned on smoking [unlikely], but not on "drugs", if you were to say anything. I'm happy weed is essentially regulated like alcohol [one of the most damaging drugs on the planet, statistically] now, and quite destigmatized. Edit: typo


CuriousCrow47

Not everywhere it isnā€™t. Ā Idaho in particular is surrounded by legal states but we donā€™t even have medical, which I could seriously use!


_ridges_

Did I say "everywhere"? Stay in your lane.


CuriousCrow47

You pretty much did! Ā Just saying weā€™re not all so lucky.


_ridges_

No. Here's an example that may help you: "Zoos have giraffes." This is a true statement, however.... not all places have zoos. Not all zoos have giraffes. Some zoos DO have giraffes. There is no global statement about all zoos or all places.


CuriousCrow47

Whatever.


turd-crafter

I just commented this. I helped my elder grandfather get a weed card for my grandma who had cancer. He said if itā€™s legal in your state and you need it medically then itā€™s ok.


Octopus-train

Everyone in my hall was self medicating with alcohol and food. I would not be surprised if the elderā€™s wives have moved on to weed.Ā 


Internal-Machine

This only aggravated me because my ex snitched to the elders about our usage. To think that some elders in our committee could have been actively using is so aggravating.


4theluvofshalyssa

yup i got into so much trouble for this back when i was in, twice reproved and countless ā€œshepherding callsā€. I was always the scapegoat but i knew so many others who partook in the devils lettuce.


Internal-Machine

Exactly even knew an active Ministerial servant who was smoking the night before giving his first public talk.


Super-Cartographer-1

Dude, I think you got a huge get outta jail free card now! I donā€™t think thereā€™s been any direct announcements to the R&F but I think the elders book says if you have a script or a doctor recommends weed for you then itā€™s cool.


4lan5eth

Now if they snitch on you for working there, they have to explain why they know about it. Sort of like me using my name on this sub as well as all the comments I make on ExJW content on YouTube. If they tell, then they inadvertently tattle on themselves. ![gif](giphy|W9d37aHZgWyuMCGAsU|downsized)


MVXX_the-mango

I like the way you think homie


Ill-Morning-8081

Buying prerolls is mind blowing. The only thing Iā€™d heard on weed (aside from the info in the elderā€™s book) was that smoking was a complete no-no because itā€™s ā€œdefilingā€ the body, but edibles and such were a conscience matter for medical. Would be hilarious if thatā€™s the next update though


Vivid-Intention-8161

From what iā€™ve heard, my old cong in a legal state is hooked on edibles, which are apparently a conscience matter now? Getting PREROLLS from YOU is crazy though šŸ˜­ pretty sure they still canā€™t smoke anything!


turbochariot

You're serving where the weed is greater. Please continue.


MVXX_the-mango

HAHA This made my day thanks so much


lets-b-pimo

Really only the elders and PIMOs know that medicinal weed is not an issue unless it becomes something people talk about. The elders manual discusses using under the guidance of a doctor. This information is not public to R&F JWs. Recreationally, nothing has changed. But anecdotally it seems that a rather large percentage of PIMI JWs are using these days and no one talks about it or they keep it very quiet. Don't ask don't tell. I think it's good. Even if using doesn't help them to the path of deconstructing, it's much healthier than drowning their issues in alcohol.


Wonderful_Minute2031

I think itā€™s wrong that there is subset of people that do not have access to a treatment that could substantially reduce their stress. This creates a privileged class that gets to break the rules and the ones that probably need it the most are prevented from having it. Iā€™m sick of this. These kinds of hierarchies make dangerous groups survive longer because the privileged group thrives on their power and privilege, tells everyone things arenā€™t so bad because they are NOT subject to the same rules, and they continue to enforce those harmful rules on very vulnerable people.


cinnamrum

wow for a ā€œunified organizationā€ thereā€™s not a lot of unity šŸ˜­ my mom bought me cbd oil for joint pain and told me to hide it from everyone while shaming people for smoking weed very very funny


4thdegreeknight

At the next public talk, Weed, Satans Lettuce


margovanax

I call it jazz cabbage


4thdegreeknight

didn't have my glasses on when I opened this I read JIZZ


CuriousCrow47

1) Ew. Ā 2) Iā€™ve had some mindblowing sex while high, so I understand. Ā šŸ˜


Naked_Excited87

Good fucking god I would have loved smoking weed back when I was in the organization. ![gif](giphy|BdR7LApFzvNok)


AerieFar9957

Meeting would have been so much more interesting! So would my comments!


Naked_Excited87

Knowing me Iā€™d start giggling in the middle of my comment and run to the restroom whilst laughing my ass off. šŸ˜‚


AerieFar9957

Exactly!


Lucii88

i always wondered how many other jws smoked flower in secret i knew i couldn't be alone


littlescaredycat

I've had a medical weed card for a few years. I know several others who do as well. I also know others who do not have medical cards but use it for medical reasons. I do not know of any who openly admit to using it for recreation. However, I know that many likely do (including myself, although primarily for medical reasons). I'm not sure what state you are in, but the state I am in will only list you as a medical user if you are a card carrier. So, even though many use it for medical, unless they have a card, the dispensary will list them as recreational users. For reference, I am an elders wife, and I am PIMO. Side note...I'm (mildly) shocked that an elder was buying pre rolled blunts. My understanding is that if a JW uses it for medical reasons, they are NOT to smoke it. LOL, I bet that elder was shaking in his shoes when he saw you! And please follow the advice of @Larchington and don't out anyone. That's a huge violation of privacy and would likely lead to crappy consequences for you. And totally not related...congratulations on your baby girl! šŸ’ž *edit for typos


MVXX_the-mango

Thank you! I totally get that. I actually got my dad and stepmom to try edibles for their anxiety. Definitely will not tell anyone, I just thought it was a little ironic lmao. and Thank you so much!! My daughter means everything to me lmao


littlescaredycat

It's very ironic! Did the elder or his wife talk to you when they saw you? Or did they buy from another person at the dispenserary?


MVXX_the-mango

There was kind of an unspoken agreement to keep it professional, no religious talk at all. Only because we get commission and all my other coworkers were busy. They did ask how little Miss is, so that was nice. It was slightly uncomfortable but ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ


youngspitball

thanks for the more cool story/info , and respect for not being a tattle-tale like the borg wants all its members to be ironically. But if ever u need to , u can press the red button


MVXX_the-mango

Thanks Dude! My thing is itā€™s just ironic that itā€™s the same elder who yelled at me. What I didnā€™t add is this elder picks me apart every time I see him for a bunch of different reasons that arenā€™t really relevant to this post.


youngspitball

That's what makes it even wilder, he's acts holier than thou but luvs the indica or is it sativa or hybrid flower lol, Id accidently on purpose call him brother Piffington


MVXX_the-mango

LMAO Right? Bro, weā€™re both here for the same reason, youā€™re no better than anyone else


youngspitball

Facts.


PremierEditing

I'm not sure if it's legal or whatever, but I'd take a few pictures of their customer records on the sly. Just in case any of them ever want to start some crap and you need to come to "an understanding"


alohaflan

Yeah this is definitely a criminal act. Don't do this OP lol


SwankyLittleSparrow

If you decide to leak this information, please do it in a way that only exposes the elders. The rank and file have enough problems and need a break.


MVXX_the-mango

Oh definitely. I probably wonā€™t do anything about it, only because my daughter and I live at my dads and I want our living arrangement to be as peaceful as possible until her and I can get out of there.


AReverieofEnvisage

Omfg. I shouldn't feel bad when I smoke then. Fuck this shit.


[deleted]

As far as I understand if it's for medicinal purposes it's allowed However I'm sure it's not supposed to be made public


ChumpChainge

Last I heard they still arenā€™t allowed to smoke it because that is ā€œa spiritistic practiceā€. May have changed. It all changes.


[deleted]

I know a CO that literally told a relative to "enjoy" when they expressed the fact that they smoke Certain rules aren't for the rank and file to know until there's a reason to know


Past_Library_7435

I tā€™s legal in most states. I donā€™t understand what you couldnā€™t work there? These dispensaries are required to run with all the licenses and permits required for operating. Itā€™s not as if you were growing and selling from your home. They need to chill. Added. It isnā€™t as if youā€™re were holding stock in Lockheed Martin or anything of the sort? ![gif](giphy|3oEjHT9udpeZ0O5fmU)


EasyBounce

Jehovah's Witnesses...chill...šŸ¤£


Past_Library_7435

Judging others when the GBā€™s hand is in the Cooke jar. ![gif](giphy|J2yhxLhNnCmIdrVKEw)


EasyBounce

The SPECIAL cookie jar! šŸ« 


crispychickensam

My dad was disfellowshipped for a couple reasons, smoking (cigs & weed) was one of them. Shows just how backwards their whole system is.


Freeluna16

Be Petty, report them to Bethel! lol


figuringitout316

I smoked for like 10 years as a pretty convincing PIMO. My mom ended up finding some empty carts of mine and told me to tell the elders or she would. I fought about it because one elder did already know, and was fine. But had to go through with meeting with more elders, they wrote a letter to the branch. I was nervous for months until we got the reply stating that ā€œsoundness of mind needs to be used.ā€ Essentially, as long as I wasnā€™t broadcasting it, or offering it to anyone else, I was in the clear. Soo, they never made an announcement but Iā€™m sure the general consensus got around and a lot of people are okay with it, especially in edible form.


margovanax

That's interesting, I wonder if they are "pimo" I wouldn't expose them either, it's not like they are doing anything wrong. The hypocrisy is irritating tho, I was dfd for drinking alcohol when I was only 23, that was my wake up call.


MoonBaby812

Itā€™s for his cataracts, lol! ![gif](giphy|xTiTnnDMc77xnZ4GjK)


Oshawott_68

The most devoted elders I see.


aftherith

He was probably worried you smelled weed from his car and tried to do the ol' flip it and reverse it.


incogkneegr0

I remember when an elder who lived above me, smoked weed and the property manager who was also a witness, (yes we all went to the same congregation) would gaslight us and say he wasnā€™t. THEY ALL BE LIGHTING IT UP! Iā€™m so not surprised


MVXX_the-mango

Thatā€™s funny af


[deleted]

I also work in the cannabis field and have several JWs in my store. They didnā€™t know me but I knew them LOL


MVXX_the-mango

I love that for us XD


adamw0776

Obviously she won't leak the info. She had to know about HIPPA laws in order to even work at a dispensary. But what she SHOULD do is wait for the perfect moment at some meeting where they are talking about the body as a temple and how good it is to abstain from drugs alcohol and tobacco etc, and then comment that "with a lot of people using marijuana under the guise of medical issues, christians need to be careful not to fall into this trap, etc, etc" Just to make the elders die inside.šŸ‘šŸ½šŸ¤£


MVXX_the-mango

Iā€™m a guy but thanks lol


adamw0776

Oops..my bad. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ I notice the name mango.. You in S Florida?


MVXX_the-mango

Nope lmao, I live in a legal state, I made the username when I was like 16-17 šŸ’€


svens_even

That's a funny story, weed be helping many


ColorlessGem-n-eye

Lol. You should pop into just 1 meeting, arrive late so everyone's head hinges and looks back, and leave right before it ends. Power move.


ILearnAlotFromReddit

Sounds like everybody is living a "double life" šŸ˜‚


FindingPIMO

To nosey elder: "Excuse me, brother, but how would you know what weed smells like? Hm? Hmm?"


Noverante_Xessa

Keep your cards close to your vest. Youā€™re untouchable now, but you gotta play it right. The ball is on your field. Good luck dude. Peace āœŒļø


kyinva

Tbh I know quite a few witnesses that openly consume weed with a prescription (I dont know any witnesses who live in recreational states) thereā€™s nothing in the Bible that condemns weed in and of itself, just smoking it, stuff like weed and hair dye and tattoos arenā€™t against the jw religion, but half the people in the congregation donā€™t know or care


Shalenga

drugs are bad mmmkay


turd-crafter

I helped my elder grandfather get a weed card for my grandmother because she had cancer. He told me the rule was if itā€™s legal in your state and you need it medically itā€™s all good. Iā€™m in California if that matters.


MVXX_the-mango

Yeah, these guys are all recreational though


Cottoncandy82

Girl, take a picture šŸ“ø of their accounts just in case. Elders have a tendency to enforce do as I say, not as I do. So cya just in case.


Spiritual-Station-51

Yep the Oct 2023 elders book updated we can smoke weed if we have a medical card https://preview.redd.it/cwchpdk3887d1.jpeg?width=1517&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1af5e12e4f31ab0edba7b020dc32bf09c561c6d4


MVXX_the-mango

Theyā€™re all listed as recreational in the system, none have med cards. Which they should apply bcs they get a nice discount


Suougibma

If it were me, I'd start spreading rumors and create a disturbance.


HasmattZzzz

Most of the Borg I knew growing up were raging alcoholics so it's not a surprise they use MJ. I would rather that than the alcohol to be honest make them chill out šŸ˜‰šŸ˜…


lovesaints

Dude I absolutely love this. This is one of those self-protecting systems where no one is going to rat each other out but they all know each other's little secret.


Illustrious-Chart-75

Lots of jw's on the green especially here in Canada. A few years back there was a get together at an elders house that was suspiciously outspoken about weed. He opened up his freezer for some ice and there was a plate of frozen brownies in it.


0819_Leo

Is it legal to purchase where you live? Regardless I agree with the get out of jail card. I have a cartridge for pain management and it is the only thing that helps to be honest.


Moontie-Baggins

How did u get a job at the dispensary? Was there any specific training??


David949

OMG you sinner smoking gods gift to mankind. You should just bounce out and enjoy a flat blunt for all of us


ResponseNo1526

Hahahahaa this is funny af! 420 all the way I remember I was council for weed when I was 19 some stuppid ā€œbest friendā€ JW trashy ass bitch decided to feel bad about doing it and went to tell the elders that we had smoked weed. Elders started asking me how many times I consumed told them only 2 šŸ¤­ why the fuck they care! Itā€™s my life now that I am out of the CULT my parents are okay with it šŸ˜ their is nothing wrong with weed it does help if used properly


EmotionallyNumb23

Brilliant! A prospective baptismal candidate wouldnt be able to get away it though. Keep that info mentally logged just incase you need it one day op!


[deleted]

I remember a few years ago I was staying at a friends house whoā€™s wife was my boss, but also JWā€™s, and she introduced me to the insurance game which I love. I was with him in his truck as we were driving around town, and he whips his vape out and says ā€œ yeah this stuff really helps my anxiety! Do you feel comfortable if I vape this around you?ā€ I ofcourse said yes but I was still concerned because I was just waking up too and I had thought of their family as the perfect witness family. But Iā€™ve always kept that as my get out of jail free card in case for whatever reason I needed lol! They donā€™t talk to me anymore because I assume they think I donā€™t attend meetings anymore, I could care less though! Lovely family but their attitude has always made them think theyā€™re better than anyone because theyā€™re making over 400k a year.


FlowerPower670

Wow šŸ˜³


SolidCalligrapher456

Iā€™d send this info to the CO like a good JW šŸ«”


Significant-Body-942

The SFL book says this about weed: "If the use of marijuana is legal and a medical doctor authorizes and/ā€‹or prescribes marijuana for a medical problem, a Christian may choose to make use of this form of treatment. If the growing of marijuana is also legal, a Christian who is using marijuana under a doctorā€™s supervision may decide to grow the drug for his personal use. Or a Christian may decide to grow the drug for someone in his household who is using it under a doctorā€™s supervision. These would be personal decisions. However, it would not be proper for a Christian to use marijuana just to experience euphoria or for him to grow it for others who are not part of his household. If a Christianā€™s medical use of marijuana or the growing of it for his personal medical needs causes a disturbance in the congregation, it could be that the Christian would no longer be viewed as exemplary."