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Intelligent people don't actually come out of the womb knowing everything... they become smart because they never stop learning. Stupid people become so because they don't seek to learn. I'm not sure who said it, but saw an interview where someone said, "I love finding out that I was wrong, because it means I've learned something new."
That sentiment is also the foundation of modern science, as it happens.
And it’s why some people are anti-science: “oh you said something was like this but now you’re saying it’s like that? Make up your mind stupid scientists.” People can be wrong or just not know enough to know they’re wrong, shut up you pricks.
Yes!!
It really annoys me when I tell someone they are wrong and show them the information trying to teach them something and they just start an argument with me like I am calling them stupid! No I was trying to teach you because that’s how you learn. You will never be right if you can’t look up a simple fact and admit when you are wrong.
Probably half of my in private browser use is me looking up random stuff that i should already know and would be embarrassed if someone saw the google search
" how to get to reddit.com "
" what number comes after 37? "
" How to spell the word spell "
" What does sleep mean? "
" how old am i if i was born 30 years ago? "
For real, I don’t understand that person at all! I am 100% sure a dozen is 12 and I still double checked on google before reading too far into the comments haha
This is where AI should jump in before you hit “send” and say “hey, did you know a dozen is 12 and not 20”.
Like how gmail does when it detects I use the word “attached” but forgot to attach something.
They have gone through their whole life pulling shit like this, and occasionally it works because someone decides placating them is easier than dealing with the tantrum. They might know better and this is just an attempt to get something free.
They would spend an hour until they found something that says a dozen is 20 on the 18th page of the Google search then they would show you that one link.
Just like the anti vaxx dopes.
I used to live near an amazing German bakery and cafe.
The first time I went, all the cookies looked really good, so I just ordered one to try, and it was just a really really good cookie. So after my lunch, decided I would order a dozen to take home.
They told me “ok, a dozen cookies, just so you know our dozen is a baker’s dozen.” And I had no idea what that meant, and didn’t ask, I just said “ok, cool, just throw a dozen of your favorite cookies into the box, idc what kinds, just an assortment because they all look good”
Got home to find 13 cookies and was SO excited over a bonus cookie! And my husband had to explain that a baker’s dozen is 13.
It wasn’t IN Germany, it was a German family who’d moved to the US, that opened their own bakery/cafe with traditional German food and pastries.
Also how I learned that the German potato salad is the superior potato salad.
Yeah because it knows it's thirteen. There is no bakers dozen in Germany. Source: am German, living in Germany. Parents owned a bakery for almost 20 years.
I'm german and heard of baker's dozen but never heard someone use it. More common in my opinion is devil's dozen for 13, because 13 is already associated with the devil, evil and misfortune.
I still asked Wikipedia about the baker's dozen. Seems like there was a law in middle ages where shopkeepers got punished if they gave you less than promoted. Bakerys started to put one item extra in case one of the goods where to small to count as one at its own. So they wouldn't get punished.
It's an English term and is more about the weight. A loaf of bread had to weigh a certain amount by law. And as baking bread is not really an exact science it was safer for bakers to sell 13 loaves as a dozen to ensure the legal minimum weight was correct. Selling underweight bread was a criminal offence which was surprisingly forward thinking for medieval England.
I don't think it is fair to call it forward thinking. Sometimes we like to lay claim to intelligence like our predecessors didn't have any. Rather it was a necessity. Wherever there is crafty thinking, there will be people using their heads to cheat the system. And the result will always be rules that seem to make little sense designed to stop that rare individual who teaches the rest to cheat with them.
In the end, they figured out they could just add powdered plaster to the flour. The miller would cut it with just a bit to add to their profits. Then the dealer would do the same. Then the baker... Estimates place some of the most common bread sold in Victorian bakeries at about 50% plaster. The cheapest was like 80% (iirc). Food adulteration was a huge problem. The British government actually told families (suggested) to add just a bit of bleach to their milk if it was spoiled, because it would make it look and taste like fresh milk. But it was definitely still just rotten milk mixed with bleach. No one knows how many people died from farmers and store keepers doing this with whole batches.
>Also how I learned that the German potato salad is the superior potato salad.
Funny because there are two kinds of potato salad in Germany and the different regions will go to war over what kind is better
I still think about this place even though now I live halfway across the country.
The cookie I tried was just a basic butter cookie, but it had some type of crushed nuts mixed in, pecans or walnuts or something. And it was the best cookie ever. I don’t even like nuts all that much, but this cookie was so good and the nuts made it better somehow?
I was a SO excited to find a bonus cookie, like getting a bonus curly fry in the bottom of the bag.
Anyway, any time I was in the area and didn’t have cookies, I’d stop and get some German potato salad, and then a bakers dozen of cookies to just have at home for when I needed a reward for doing any task.
I love that. I’m eating fried rice this very moment but I caught myself wistfully saying “oh *fuck*” and laughing (relatable) at how you don’t even like nuts that much but this cookie was just *good*
I bet having a little reward for yourself like that was nice. Where I live now (I moved just a few months ago so I’m learning the town) I found a local pie place that just makes the *best* goddamn banana cream pie I’ve ever had and I don’t even care for bananas or cream or pie, but I’ve hurt my throat once going “MMMMMM” so sharply. It’s cool yet melts in your mouth and the bananas are somehow SO fresh even when it’s the end-of-the-day closing pie.
I have the object permanence and memory of a baby so it’s kind of nice to have a really hard day and hear my husband suggest we get some banana cream pie, and suddenly I’m reminded: *oh yEAH THAT EXISTS!!* and revel in my joy. If I move away I will dearly miss it
Fun fact the bakers dozen dates back to I think the French Revolution when bakers could be put to death for shorting people on baked goods by weight. So bakers would always add an extra piece to make sure they were giving above the minimum weight of bread and stuff so they wouldn’t be executed
I recall bakers being put to death during and after the French Revolution because of food shortages and accusations of bakers hoarding bread instead of providing it to people.
Denis Francois is who you’re thinking of. He was accused of hiding loaves of bread instead of selling them and even though he was found innocent a mob still dragged him out and decapitated him.
There are a pretty absurd number of times in history when righteous fury (justified or not) just turns into fury. My favorite is when the (first I believe) crusades happened and a bunch of them just decided to go pillage a random city instead of doing any actual crusading.
edit: I'm amused at how many different incidents people assumed I was referring to, it happened kind of a lot.
What they're probably thinking of is the trail of destruction most notably left by the people's crusade of 1096.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Crusade
They destroyed a large number of Jewish settlements across Germany and central Europe, and ended up in a dispute which lead to them sacking Belgrade. A week later they tried the same shit at Nis, which is in Serbia, burning down buildings, but the people there weren't having it and the garrison of Nis engaged them and killed 10000 crusaders.
They did manage to get to the middle east and looted and pillaged their way through the countryside. Reading the excerpts you can't help but feel the Turkish troops definitely would have felt like they were on the side of justice. Even with all the destruction the Turks were still noted to have spared and converted a lot of the crusaders, and to have refrained from killing women and children among them. Pretty sure this is not something the crusaders offered.
On their Way from their respective homelands to the Eastern Roman Empire they pillaged and also murdered a lot of Jewish People.
It got so bad that the King of Hungary refused to let crusaders through his Lands at first.
In Cologne a Bishop hid the Jewish Population of his City from Crusaders and they threatened to burn down his residence if he not release them to their Wrath.
It was insane.
But it has to be noted that this was the „Peoples Crusade“, not the more organized Army led by Nobility.
In Spanish the name is Friar's Dozen (docena del fraile), supposedly because friars and priests in general always asked for "a little extra" or ñapa. It's commonly used to avoid saying the word for 13 because it usually provokes a silly rime of sexual connotation, lol
I can't answer for them, but in Russian (and I think in Ukrainian, Belarusian and probably other Slavic languages) it's Devil's Dozen too.
There was a superstition that if 13 people will eat together, one of them will die in the next year.
There’s a chance that she’s so confused that she’s made up her own lore where there’s some sweet, sweet baker’s secret code to give two extra cookies for free if you order half as much.
As in “everybody knows that if you order half a dozen, two cookies are free. So half of 20 is 12.”
Basically, this woman is highly regarded in her community - this much is obvious.
I know a dozen is 12, but I don't know what a score is cause I never heard anyone use this term.
now I know it is 20 or approximately 20 or so it say in the dictionary.
“Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.”
The only reason anyone knows how much a score is is because of the Gettysburg Address. It’s not like an obscure word but it is also absolutely not commonly used, or used at all really. No one is ordering a score of cookies lol
Half a dozen is 6. A dozen is 12. A Baker's dozen is 13 and a score is 20. I dunno why they haven't picked this up yet, it's not really something you get taught. It's just one of those things you normally encounter
And every time you buy eggs at the store. The regular size packs of 12 say "dozen" right on them. I'm sure this person, like most everyone, buys eggs on a semi-regular basis.
Response would be “Bitch I know what a dozen is I don’t need to look anything up now stop fucking around and give what I paid for!”
Because dumb confident people aren’t looking for ways to realize how dumb they are.
i mean, Tolkien pretty famously told his editor the equivalent of 'i know what the dictionary says, i helped write it, my spelling is what it is'
I.E. The correct spelling of Elves and Dwarves is actually Elfs and Dwarfs. The 'v' spelling literally came into the lexicon because of Tolkien. Tolkien was also a professor at the time and had done work on the modernization of the Oxford Dictionary.
Is this a comparable situation, not really. I just like to bring this up when i can. :)
True but running a business is tough and a lot of work so if you can avoid situations like this then you should. Some people didn't pay attention in school and never will
Takes five seconds to tell someone that “a dozen is twelve”. If they want to argue it beyond that, tell them to read a dictionary.
The customer is NOT always right. That’s an expression that has been misinterpreted to mean something it didn’t originally mean (same goes for “one bad apple”^1)
“Customer is always right” refers to the marketplace deciding on a preferred option. A classic case is VHS tapes vs BetaMax tapes. BetaMax was superior for a number of technical reasons, but the customers preferred VHS. So it became the standard. It DOESN’T mean that every ignorant, demanding customer is right to “get whatever they want”.
1. People nowadays excuse a bad cop (as an example) by saying he was “just one bad apple”. But the expression is “one bad apple spoils the entire bunch”. So saying a cop is “one bad apple” is actually acknowledging the entire department is “spoiled” (a.k.a. Bad).
WORDS MEAN THINGS. ignorance of their meaning doesn’t change what they mean.
Could be it...they buy 18, think its 20 and therefore "a dozen". Then buy 12 think it's half a dozen. It's the only way this reasoning could make any sense.
“How you bake but can’t count? A dozen is 20. A half dozen is 12.”
Even by this persons definition that they made up of how many a dozen is, that would make a half dozen obviously 10. Yet they say 12 right after they claim the person that sells dozens of baked goods can’t count. 🤦
Thats just someone who thinks everything is an expression that can be modified at will to fit what they wanna say. Half a dozen is 12 because its the expression, not because 12 is half of 20, duh!
I know a few people like that and while i dont bother correcting them in most cases (if i understand what theyre trying to say) i do sometimes let them know the reason nobody knows wtf theyre talking about.
Seriously... I can all too easily see a moblike small group on a violent mission because of not understanding math... and words...
I gotta get outta this place
That’s been going on for years. About 2000 or 2001 there had been 2 or 3 child kidnappings in England. This resulted in a lot of media scaremongering about pedos, and an angry mob actually attacked a paediatrician’s house because they were too stupid to tell the difference.
reminds me how at the start of the war in ukraine many ukrainian people (some of which I knew) got insults and death threats by people who thought they were russian
Just look at the math you guys.
20/2 .. the 20^/2 slides off the little slide and disappears then you're left with /2 so you straighten the slide and you get |2 or 12.
Well, some people are just adamant in being wrong.
At work I have had an outright argument with a 60 year old representative from the client who was claiming the > symbol points towards the greater value (like an arrow) and wanted us to reprint and re-sign a half thousand certificates to correct it.
For context we megger test (insulation testing) power cables for offshore installation and the value from the test had to be written on the completion certificates, typically as “measured value > 9999 Ohms” which is what the measuring instrument displays when the cable insulation is intact.
Well, he wanted it to show “measured value < 9999 Ohms” so it pointed to the higher value.
In the end I had to print out a page from some kids math website with graphical images of a crocodile eating the bigger value, and > being drawn as the crocodiles mouth and left it on his desk.
Never heard another complaint about how to use < and > again.
This actually reminded me of when I tried to get my first job in high school at a local market in a tiny town where a significant number of my classmates worked and the mother of one of my classmates was the owner.
At my interview she asked me how many jojos (potato wedges) are in half a *pound*. I said I didn’t know, and I would use the scale to find out.
I didn’t get the job.
Then in school, a couple friends who worked there randomly asked me how many half a dozen was. I said six. Then they told me she was talking shit about me, saying I was stupid and didn’t know what half a dozen meant, and that she’d never met anyone my age who didn’t know that and clearly I wouldn’t go far in life.
She did not say dozen, she said pound. I feel like the fact that I said I would need to use a scale should have clued her in that she’d said the wrong thing or at the very least I had misheard. Half a pound is one of the most common orders of jojos at delis that sell them. Who the hell only orders 6 potato wedges? They weren’t even big ones either.
Those friends went back and told her that she must’ve misspoken because I was able to tell them what half a dozen was when they asked me out of the blue. She doubled down and told them that she knows what she said and they were friends with a dumbass.
I didn’t want to work there anyway after that if she was going to tell people she knew I went to school with that I was a dumbass. What was she trying to do, encourage them to bully me for being stupid? If she hired me thinking I was an idiot she would’ve been a nightmare to work for.
Her son actually apologized to me and said she actually did similar to a lot of people.
I realize now that she was probably just a bitch but at the time I took it really hard. She made me feel really worthless.
A few years back I was coming from a casino trip with my ex. We stopped by a Buccee's because that's a tradition. I stand in line to get beef jerky and when I'm up I ask for a lb of lemon pepper. The man behind the counter grabs a few thin strips, places it on the scale and wraps it up. "Next!" I ask him if he could go ahead and even it out. He responds that I only asked for a pound of lemon pepper. I point to the folded paper he pushed towards me and said yes I'd like a pound so if you could go ahead and fill the order that'd be great. Didn't raise my voice, hadn't touch the jerky. He grabs the wrapped jerky puts it back in the scale and begins to take a tone. He tells me "Sir you asked for a pound I put a pound in there, if you want more you can just say so because you can read just like everybody else" as he points to the digital scale reading .10. Now I'm getting upset, he's drawing attention to me in a crowd and making me look like an asshole because he doesn't know how decimals work. I raise my voice a little, partly anger more so anxiety and fear and I respond sure I'll take 9 more lbs if he's using the same unit of measurement. He practically tosses the jerky at me mumbles something and all I caught was damn Mexicans. I'm pissed, I'm raising my hand for a one finger salutation and my ex just happened to walk up. She takes my hand, grabs the jerky and tells the jerky clerk we're good before pulling me to the cash register. Before we get to the register we stop by the sunglass stand. She tells me she heard the last bit, placed her hand on my cheek and tells me to just let it go. We walk to the register, cashier scans everything and as she scans the jerky comments "that's odd, usually people buy this stuff by the pound. If you're only looking to try it you could have asked for a sample."
A while ago 1/3 pound burger marketing campaign failed because the public couldn’t figure that 1 part of 3 is bigger than 1 part of 4. They thought 1/4 is bigger than 1/3. This is most people. I have people who graduated college that couldn’t get past it. 80% of people are like this and it’s scary.
so a dozen is 20
half a dozen is 12
so halving two halfdozens (aka a dozen) means you have 24
no wonder people didnt like the 1/3-pounder burger cause they thought its less than the 1/4-pounder
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That’s really embarrassing. They are texting it with such confidence too. They should’ve double checked “dozen” on Google.
That’s the part that always baffles me, when they’re so confident in it. I’ll literally google a word before using it to make sure I use it correctly
I do this as well, but it's probably because we aren't complete dumbfucks and actually consider that we might be wrong before we speak lol
I agree, this is due to relative intelligence not in spite of it
Intelligent people don't actually come out of the womb knowing everything... they become smart because they never stop learning. Stupid people become so because they don't seek to learn. I'm not sure who said it, but saw an interview where someone said, "I love finding out that I was wrong, because it means I've learned something new." That sentiment is also the foundation of modern science, as it happens.
And it’s why some people are anti-science: “oh you said something was like this but now you’re saying it’s like that? Make up your mind stupid scientists.” People can be wrong or just not know enough to know they’re wrong, shut up you pricks.
Yes!! It really annoys me when I tell someone they are wrong and show them the information trying to teach them something and they just start an argument with me like I am calling them stupid! No I was trying to teach you because that’s how you learn. You will never be right if you can’t look up a simple fact and admit when you are wrong.
Probably half of my in private browser use is me looking up random stuff that i should already know and would be embarrassed if someone saw the google search
" how to get to reddit.com " " what number comes after 37? " " How to spell the word spell " " What does sleep mean? " " how old am i if i was born 30 years ago? "
I do the same thing, and if I’m still not sure, I’ll just use a different word lol
In this instance the numpty ordering should have used the word “twenty”
The word they were looking for was a score of cookies, which is basically only used as 4 score and 7...
For real, I don’t understand that person at all! I am 100% sure a dozen is 12 and I still double checked on google before reading too far into the comments haha
If they knew how to google, they wouldn’t have this problem in the first place.
I'm more perplexed by "20 / 2 = 12"
Baker’s Half Dozen, duh.
Which makes sense since bakers obviously can't count.
This is where AI should jump in before you hit “send” and say “hey, did you know a dozen is 12 and not 20”. Like how gmail does when it detects I use the word “attached” but forgot to attach something.
this is when that little paper clip guy would actually be useful with his stupid hints.
The moment people start missing Clippy and thinking "Clippy would be useful here", that is the moment we know shit went terribly wrong at some point.
Clippy was ahead of his time
“It looks like you’re about to make an ass out of yourself and likely to wind up on the internet: did you know you’re off by 7? See: Baker’s Dozen”
that’s hilarious!! 😂😂😂
Omg the paper clip guy!!!! I miss him 🥺
“I always knew this AI thing is stupid, it doesn’t even know a dozen is 20”.
I just want AI to correct "would of" automatically, with no option to opt-out, on every single platform in existence
Google is filled with the baker elite trying to hide the truth that a dozen is in fact 20, don’t let them brainwash you!
The one thing big wheat doesn’t want you to know!!
They have gone through their whole life pulling shit like this, and occasionally it works because someone decides placating them is easier than dealing with the tantrum. They might know better and this is just an attempt to get something free.
These kind of people probably will think Google is wrong if it said a dozen is twelve
/r/confidentlyincorrect
They would spend an hour until they found something that says a dozen is 20 on the 18th page of the Google search then they would show you that one link. Just like the anti vaxx dopes.
Standard Dozen = 12, Bakers Dozen = 13, Idiot Dozen = 20
I used to live near an amazing German bakery and cafe. The first time I went, all the cookies looked really good, so I just ordered one to try, and it was just a really really good cookie. So after my lunch, decided I would order a dozen to take home. They told me “ok, a dozen cookies, just so you know our dozen is a baker’s dozen.” And I had no idea what that meant, and didn’t ask, I just said “ok, cool, just throw a dozen of your favorite cookies into the box, idc what kinds, just an assortment because they all look good” Got home to find 13 cookies and was SO excited over a bonus cookie! And my husband had to explain that a baker’s dozen is 13.
Never heard that in germany in my whole life up to now
It wasn’t IN Germany, it was a German family who’d moved to the US, that opened their own bakery/cafe with traditional German food and pastries. Also how I learned that the German potato salad is the superior potato salad.
>baker’s dozen Funny, if you look that up in German dicitionaries, it'll literally just go "thirteen" (but in German ofc).
#DREIZEHN
Gesundheit
Hallo! Ich spreche nur ein bisschen deutsch, aber ich lerne es in Duolingo.
Sehr gut, und viel Glück!
Prost
I do not want three toes in my cookies, please. Thank you
Yeah because it knows it's thirteen. There is no bakers dozen in Germany. Source: am German, living in Germany. Parents owned a bakery for almost 20 years.
A dozen years?
get out
🤣😂
For score years
I'm german and heard of baker's dozen but never heard someone use it. More common in my opinion is devil's dozen for 13, because 13 is already associated with the devil, evil and misfortune. I still asked Wikipedia about the baker's dozen. Seems like there was a law in middle ages where shopkeepers got punished if they gave you less than promoted. Bakerys started to put one item extra in case one of the goods where to small to count as one at its own. So they wouldn't get punished.
It's an English term and is more about the weight. A loaf of bread had to weigh a certain amount by law. And as baking bread is not really an exact science it was safer for bakers to sell 13 loaves as a dozen to ensure the legal minimum weight was correct. Selling underweight bread was a criminal offence which was surprisingly forward thinking for medieval England.
I don't think it is fair to call it forward thinking. Sometimes we like to lay claim to intelligence like our predecessors didn't have any. Rather it was a necessity. Wherever there is crafty thinking, there will be people using their heads to cheat the system. And the result will always be rules that seem to make little sense designed to stop that rare individual who teaches the rest to cheat with them. In the end, they figured out they could just add powdered plaster to the flour. The miller would cut it with just a bit to add to their profits. Then the dealer would do the same. Then the baker... Estimates place some of the most common bread sold in Victorian bakeries at about 50% plaster. The cheapest was like 80% (iirc). Food adulteration was a huge problem. The British government actually told families (suggested) to add just a bit of bleach to their milk if it was spoiled, because it would make it look and taste like fresh milk. But it was definitely still just rotten milk mixed with bleach. No one knows how many people died from farmers and store keepers doing this with whole batches.
>Also how I learned that the German potato salad is the superior potato salad. Yes. Yes it is.
>Also how I learned that the German potato salad is the superior potato salad. Funny because there are two kinds of potato salad in Germany and the different regions will go to war over what kind is better
This was a sweet story that brought a smile to my face. I can feel your joy of the bonus cookie. Mmm
I still think about this place even though now I live halfway across the country. The cookie I tried was just a basic butter cookie, but it had some type of crushed nuts mixed in, pecans or walnuts or something. And it was the best cookie ever. I don’t even like nuts all that much, but this cookie was so good and the nuts made it better somehow? I was a SO excited to find a bonus cookie, like getting a bonus curly fry in the bottom of the bag. Anyway, any time I was in the area and didn’t have cookies, I’d stop and get some German potato salad, and then a bakers dozen of cookies to just have at home for when I needed a reward for doing any task.
I love that. I’m eating fried rice this very moment but I caught myself wistfully saying “oh *fuck*” and laughing (relatable) at how you don’t even like nuts that much but this cookie was just *good* I bet having a little reward for yourself like that was nice. Where I live now (I moved just a few months ago so I’m learning the town) I found a local pie place that just makes the *best* goddamn banana cream pie I’ve ever had and I don’t even care for bananas or cream or pie, but I’ve hurt my throat once going “MMMMMM” so sharply. It’s cool yet melts in your mouth and the bananas are somehow SO fresh even when it’s the end-of-the-day closing pie. I have the object permanence and memory of a baby so it’s kind of nice to have a really hard day and hear my husband suggest we get some banana cream pie, and suddenly I’m reminded: *oh yEAH THAT EXISTS!!* and revel in my joy. If I move away I will dearly miss it
Fun fact the bakers dozen dates back to I think the French Revolution when bakers could be put to death for shorting people on baked goods by weight. So bakers would always add an extra piece to make sure they were giving above the minimum weight of bread and stuff so they wouldn’t be executed
Medieval England and it was jail time not death but yes that’s why it’s called that.
I recall bakers being put to death during and after the French Revolution because of food shortages and accusations of bakers hoarding bread instead of providing it to people.
Denis Francois is who you’re thinking of. He was accused of hiding loaves of bread instead of selling them and even though he was found innocent a mob still dragged him out and decapitated him.
That does sound like the french revolution.
Yep he was one of many innocent individuals that was killed. People who can’t feed their children have nothing left to lose.
There are a pretty absurd number of times in history when righteous fury (justified or not) just turns into fury. My favorite is when the (first I believe) crusades happened and a bunch of them just decided to go pillage a random city instead of doing any actual crusading. edit: I'm amused at how many different incidents people assumed I was referring to, it happened kind of a lot.
The sack of Constantinople in 1204? If so, that’s the 4th crusade
What they're probably thinking of is the trail of destruction most notably left by the people's crusade of 1096. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Crusade They destroyed a large number of Jewish settlements across Germany and central Europe, and ended up in a dispute which lead to them sacking Belgrade. A week later they tried the same shit at Nis, which is in Serbia, burning down buildings, but the people there weren't having it and the garrison of Nis engaged them and killed 10000 crusaders. They did manage to get to the middle east and looted and pillaged their way through the countryside. Reading the excerpts you can't help but feel the Turkish troops definitely would have felt like they were on the side of justice. Even with all the destruction the Turks were still noted to have spared and converted a lot of the crusaders, and to have refrained from killing women and children among them. Pretty sure this is not something the crusaders offered.
On their Way from their respective homelands to the Eastern Roman Empire they pillaged and also murdered a lot of Jewish People. It got so bad that the King of Hungary refused to let crusaders through his Lands at first. In Cologne a Bishop hid the Jewish Population of his City from Crusaders and they threatened to burn down his residence if he not release them to their Wrath. It was insane. But it has to be noted that this was the „Peoples Crusade“, not the more organized Army led by Nobility.
You must be really old if you remember that
In Spanish the name is Friar's Dozen (docena del fraile), supposedly because friars and priests in general always asked for "a little extra" or ñapa. It's commonly used to avoid saying the word for 13 because it usually provokes a silly rime of sexual connotation, lol
> It's commonly used to avoid saying the word for 13 because it usually provokes a silly rime of sexual connotation, Could you expand on this more?
lol I always thought it’s 13 bc the baker would eat one themselves haha
in my native tongue 13 is the devil's dozen
May I ask what is your native tongue? Mine is Spanish from Venezuela and we call it "priest's dozen"
I can't answer for them, but in Russian (and I think in Ukrainian, Belarusian and probably other Slavic languages) it's Devil's Dozen too. There was a superstition that if 13 people will eat together, one of them will die in the next year.
Don't forget there's also the Moron's Dozen, which is 9
…Idiot half dozen = 12.
I love how they think half of 20 is 12
She means a "score." That's 20.
I think you’re giving her WAY too much credit. There’s not a chance in hell she knows what a score is if she thinks 12 is half of 20.
She def doesn't know what a score is else she wouldn't think a dozen is 20 😅
There’s a chance that she’s so confused that she’s made up her own lore where there’s some sweet, sweet baker’s secret code to give two extra cookies for free if you order half as much. As in “everybody knows that if you order half a dozen, two cookies are free. So half of 20 is 12.” Basically, this woman is highly regarded in her community - this much is obvious.
A score here would be free cookies
Four score and 7 cookies ago, I didn't have diabetes.
Gawd damn! That's like *counts fingers* 47 cookies!
You have 47 fingers?
Never said they were *my* fingers. My collection is still growing
This is like my favourite joke... I'd sell a kidney for _____ then add I didn't say my kidney.
I'd give my middle testicle to be normal
Why would you give up lucky number seven? Sure he's the runt of the litter but he's got spunk.
😂👏
i'd give you a thumbs up but they're all i have left
Or 87, but who's counting...
Our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation filled with bad Maths and worse Geography.
Bad Maths and chocolate chips!
or drugs.
No, she doesn’t. She thinks a dozen is 20. She’s just stupid
I know a dozen is 12, but I don't know what a score is cause I never heard anyone use this term. now I know it is 20 or approximately 20 or so it say in the dictionary.
Then if someone confuses her and throws in a thing about a Baker’s dozen oh man the math just gets wild
Thank goodness she wasn't thinking of a Gross.
“Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.”
The only reason anyone knows how much a score is is because of the Gettysburg Address. It’s not like an obscure word but it is also absolutely not commonly used, or used at all really. No one is ordering a score of cookies lol
I mean, I am *now*...
I think it’s time to start a movement. Let’s all go into bakeries and start ordering by the score!
In the U.K. a score is pretty common slang for £20. Think the confusion would arise from there being 20 cookies rather than £20 worth of cookies.
You might tell someone that you've ordered "scores" of cookies, though, if you mean lots.
Like 4 score and …. Years ago in the Gettysburg Address. I get it now.
(4×20)+7 (Quatre-vingt)+sept The french aren't so crazy after all ;)
EightyFuckinSeven. Edit: Unless its SeventyFuckinThree. 😬😬
Somehow I don't think they do
And a half score is 12. Everyone knows that.
One score of cookies please baker
Half a dozen is 6. A dozen is 12. A Baker's dozen is 13 and a score is 20. I dunno why they haven't picked this up yet, it's not really something you get taught. It's just one of those things you normally encounter
I mean you definitely get taught what a dozen is in school or at least I did. Not that you need it
I mean, clearly people do need it as demonstrated here haha.
And every time you buy eggs at the store. The regular size packs of 12 say "dozen" right on them. I'm sure this person, like most everyone, buys eggs on a semi-regular basis.
Your mistake was assuming she knows how to read.
They are either angling for free cookies or they failed upwards in school.
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Simple response: “go look up ‘dozen’ in the dictionary and report back with an apology”
I sure would like to know the response was.
Response would be “Bitch I know what a dozen is I don’t need to look anything up now stop fucking around and give what I paid for!” Because dumb confident people aren’t looking for ways to realize how dumb they are.
Just reply with: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dozen
"You got the dictionary in on your scam!"
I hate the fact I can see that happening
i mean, Tolkien pretty famously told his editor the equivalent of 'i know what the dictionary says, i helped write it, my spelling is what it is' I.E. The correct spelling of Elves and Dwarves is actually Elfs and Dwarfs. The 'v' spelling literally came into the lexicon because of Tolkien. Tolkien was also a professor at the time and had done work on the modernization of the Oxford Dictionary. Is this a comparable situation, not really. I just like to bring this up when i can. :)
This is why if you run a business you clearly put 12 cookies instead of a dozen because idiots like this exist
Nah. Just because idiots exist doesn’t mean you should pretend that words don’t mean what they mean.
True but running a business is tough and a lot of work so if you can avoid situations like this then you should. Some people didn't pay attention in school and never will
Takes five seconds to tell someone that “a dozen is twelve”. If they want to argue it beyond that, tell them to read a dictionary. The customer is NOT always right. That’s an expression that has been misinterpreted to mean something it didn’t originally mean (same goes for “one bad apple”^1) “Customer is always right” refers to the marketplace deciding on a preferred option. A classic case is VHS tapes vs BetaMax tapes. BetaMax was superior for a number of technical reasons, but the customers preferred VHS. So it became the standard. It DOESN’T mean that every ignorant, demanding customer is right to “get whatever they want”. 1. People nowadays excuse a bad cop (as an example) by saying he was “just one bad apple”. But the expression is “one bad apple spoils the entire bunch”. So saying a cop is “one bad apple” is actually acknowledging the entire department is “spoiled” (a.k.a. Bad). WORDS MEAN THINGS. ignorance of their meaning doesn’t change what they mean.
Googlethatshit.com
Better response - mail them a printed out page from a dictionary
So can I assume that they've never bought eggs before?
Probably never bothered to count them and always wondered how their 20 eggs got gone so fast.
They probably buy the packs of 18 and assume it’s 20 but think that that’s a dozen.
Could be it...they buy 18, think its 20 and therefore "a dozen". Then buy 12 think it's half a dozen. It's the only way this reasoning could make any sense.
They think they were always buying half a dozen
Exactly what I thought
I always get 18 in my dozen of eggs at the store
great math, i rate it as 5 out of 7 stars
Perfect score!
No, score is 20.
Shut up, Robert
“How you bake but can’t count? A dozen is 20. A half dozen is 12.” Even by this persons definition that they made up of how many a dozen is, that would make a half dozen obviously 10. Yet they say 12 right after they claim the person that sells dozens of baked goods can’t count. 🤦
Thats just someone who thinks everything is an expression that can be modified at will to fit what they wanna say. Half a dozen is 12 because its the expression, not because 12 is half of 20, duh! I know a few people like that and while i dont bother correcting them in most cases (if i understand what theyre trying to say) i do sometimes let them know the reason nobody knows wtf theyre talking about.
There is no such thing as ”understanding” those people. You can only assume and guess. Sometimes you are right.
Math is dead, long live the Idiocracy. Now where's my 20 cookies? /s (sort of)
Seriously... I can all too easily see a moblike small group on a violent mission because of not understanding math... and words... I gotta get outta this place
That’s been going on for years. About 2000 or 2001 there had been 2 or 3 child kidnappings in England. This resulted in a lot of media scaremongering about pedos, and an angry mob actually attacked a paediatrician’s house because they were too stupid to tell the difference.
reminds me how at the start of the war in ukraine many ukrainian people (some of which I knew) got insults and death threats by people who thought they were russian
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20 isn’t even a Baker’s Dozen. And how is 12 half of 20?
a dozen: 20 a half dozen: 12 a half of a dozen: 10 It's real simple ain't it?
You divide 20 by 2 and you get ten. Then you add the extra two (for funsies) and you get 12. Easy peasy math!
You divide by 2 and carry the erm 2. Dimwit.
 20/2 is 12 apparently
I see the problem. You carried the 2.
Just look at the math you guys. 20/2 .. the 20^/2 slides off the little slide and disappears then you're left with /2 so you straighten the slide and you get |2 or 12.
My nephew does, but he just turned 6
7% of Americans are 6 or under, so it checks out.
Can't believe 93% are wrong. What is happening to this country?
There is literally zero chance this person knows how much a score is
Well, let's give them credit, maybe they do. After all, they're trying to score 8 more cookies.
I don’t know what type of math this is. I wasn’t taught this.
It ain't Math, it's Meth.
It must be either very good or very poor one coz this is either a fantastic trip she is on or she is about to fall over in a breakdown
this is so insane. i hate people who think they’re right when they’re not at all lmfao
This is why if you run a business you clearly put 12 instead of a dozen. People like yhis exist and its easy to forget
If only people had access to a system that allowed them to quickly and easily look stuff up so that they don't make fools of themselves.
Life must be very complicated for this person.
r/confidentlyincorrect
Well, some people are just adamant in being wrong. At work I have had an outright argument with a 60 year old representative from the client who was claiming the > symbol points towards the greater value (like an arrow) and wanted us to reprint and re-sign a half thousand certificates to correct it. For context we megger test (insulation testing) power cables for offshore installation and the value from the test had to be written on the completion certificates, typically as “measured value > 9999 Ohms” which is what the measuring instrument displays when the cable insulation is intact. Well, he wanted it to show “measured value < 9999 Ohms” so it pointed to the higher value. In the end I had to print out a page from some kids math website with graphical images of a crocodile eating the bigger value, and > being drawn as the crocodiles mouth and left it on his desk. Never heard another complaint about how to use < and > again.
My 41-year-old ass legit still has to think about those goddamn crocodiles everytime I read `>` or `<`.
This actually reminded me of when I tried to get my first job in high school at a local market in a tiny town where a significant number of my classmates worked and the mother of one of my classmates was the owner. At my interview she asked me how many jojos (potato wedges) are in half a *pound*. I said I didn’t know, and I would use the scale to find out. I didn’t get the job. Then in school, a couple friends who worked there randomly asked me how many half a dozen was. I said six. Then they told me she was talking shit about me, saying I was stupid and didn’t know what half a dozen meant, and that she’d never met anyone my age who didn’t know that and clearly I wouldn’t go far in life. She did not say dozen, she said pound. I feel like the fact that I said I would need to use a scale should have clued her in that she’d said the wrong thing or at the very least I had misheard. Half a pound is one of the most common orders of jojos at delis that sell them. Who the hell only orders 6 potato wedges? They weren’t even big ones either. Those friends went back and told her that she must’ve misspoken because I was able to tell them what half a dozen was when they asked me out of the blue. She doubled down and told them that she knows what she said and they were friends with a dumbass. I didn’t want to work there anyway after that if she was going to tell people she knew I went to school with that I was a dumbass. What was she trying to do, encourage them to bully me for being stupid? If she hired me thinking I was an idiot she would’ve been a nightmare to work for. Her son actually apologized to me and said she actually did similar to a lot of people. I realize now that she was probably just a bitch but at the time I took it really hard. She made me feel really worthless.
A few years back I was coming from a casino trip with my ex. We stopped by a Buccee's because that's a tradition. I stand in line to get beef jerky and when I'm up I ask for a lb of lemon pepper. The man behind the counter grabs a few thin strips, places it on the scale and wraps it up. "Next!" I ask him if he could go ahead and even it out. He responds that I only asked for a pound of lemon pepper. I point to the folded paper he pushed towards me and said yes I'd like a pound so if you could go ahead and fill the order that'd be great. Didn't raise my voice, hadn't touch the jerky. He grabs the wrapped jerky puts it back in the scale and begins to take a tone. He tells me "Sir you asked for a pound I put a pound in there, if you want more you can just say so because you can read just like everybody else" as he points to the digital scale reading .10. Now I'm getting upset, he's drawing attention to me in a crowd and making me look like an asshole because he doesn't know how decimals work. I raise my voice a little, partly anger more so anxiety and fear and I respond sure I'll take 9 more lbs if he's using the same unit of measurement. He practically tosses the jerky at me mumbles something and all I caught was damn Mexicans. I'm pissed, I'm raising my hand for a one finger salutation and my ex just happened to walk up. She takes my hand, grabs the jerky and tells the jerky clerk we're good before pulling me to the cash register. Before we get to the register we stop by the sunglass stand. She tells me she heard the last bit, placed her hand on my cheek and tells me to just let it go. We walk to the register, cashier scans everything and as she scans the jerky comments "that's odd, usually people buy this stuff by the pound. If you're only looking to try it you could have asked for a sample."
A while ago 1/3 pound burger marketing campaign failed because the public couldn’t figure that 1 part of 3 is bigger than 1 part of 4. They thought 1/4 is bigger than 1/3. This is most people. I have people who graduated college that couldn’t get past it. 80% of people are like this and it’s scary.
I’d say post this back on the group without the persons name, watch them get roasted publicly
I'm curious if that person has ever heard the phrase a dozen eggs
Dozen! Dos + Ten
It probably comes from French: 12 is douze. Dozen is douzaine (and you pronounce it close enough to dozen).
I'm gonna need to see pics of people explaining to this fool how wrong he is, and how he responds.
Nah, 20 is a score. A dozen is 12
I mean, 20 cookies sounds like a score to me.
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as we all know, a dozen is 20, a baker's dozen is 13, and half a dozen is 12, because 20/2=12
"A dozen is 20!" "A half dozen is 12!" ...even if one statement was correct one wouldn't be
I don't know what's funnier, the fact that they think a dozen is 20 or that half of it is 12
*spose to*
People have the world’s knowledge at their fingertips in the modern age.. and still choose to be stupid. 🤷♂️
In England, a dozen is 12 and a baker’s dozen is 13. If the agreement was a dozen I’d expect 12 but hope for 13.
We need to stop blurring out names of stupid people lol
Not sure if I’m more concerned they think a dozen is 20 or that they think half of 20 is 12
Stay in school, kids
Schools stop letting failing students move up grades and graduate!
No child left behind.
Seller was respectful and handled it professionally. Could of just msged back dumb arse lol.
Another example of America's failed education system. 🙄
so a dozen is 20 half a dozen is 12 so halving two halfdozens (aka a dozen) means you have 24 no wonder people didnt like the 1/3-pounder burger cause they thought its less than the 1/4-pounder