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"He believes that the challenges presented by Venus like carbon dioxide and clouds made of sulfuric acid “can be overcome with breathing apparatus and acid-resistant materials.”
He seems to have a foolproof plan
Yep. This is the first problem I see. The second is it's really fucking hot. Isn't it subverting like 80 times our pressure on earth? It's like that episode of Futurama. How many atmospheres of pressure can the ship take? Well it's a spaceship so anywhere from 0 to 1.
Accurate, ocean gate was staffed by inexperienced engineers, and led by a moron with a Deathwish. What I was saying that is if they stay in the upper atmosphere of Venus, the pressure is about the same as earth along with the temperature. That said I wouldn’t trust these guys near a spacecraft.
He's not wrong that thosechallenges can be solved with those means, however:
1. Implementing those solutions is the actual problem, thinking of the concept is easy.
2. There's more than just those 2 issues on a trip to Venus. The first is just getting there.
Maybe you should read the article instead of being so snarky. He also stated he would use an OEM game controller rather than third-party so I’m not sure what else you expect of him.
I mean he’s not wrong if they stay in the upper atmosphere where the heat and pressure isn’t an issue. That said I don’t trust these guys to make a child’s toy, let alone some sort of outer space zeppelin.
You will find him shopping for parts at your local home depot in the spacecraft section. It's right next to the submersible section so he's pretty familiar.
Either he is exceptionally stupid, or this is some clever plan he has come up with to slowly eliminate clout chasing billionaires with dangerous, sure to fail adventures. My guess he's got a bad case of the dumb-dumbs
Ngl Venus seems a more hospitable place than Mars in a few regards. Similar gravity, similar pressures & similar temperatures in the upper atmosphere.
No real protection against radiations but Mars is the same.
No way to go to the surface so it’s not very attractive but maybe if you market it like the city in The Empire Strikes Back, you can sell a few tickets before pulling the rug
I disagree; The pressures on the surface of Venus is akin to being 3,000 feet underwater. (Water pressure is what caused the titan to collapse in microseconds)
All missions to venus lasted hours at most til the technology ultimately failed due to the pressure.
Several rovers survived and are surviving for years on Mars.
There is the opposite issue however; with a very thin atmosphere and practically zero radiation protection.
Neither has life currently cuz its not currently compatible with life.
I think what he is saying is that the upper atmosphere has equivalent pressure and temperature as the surface of the earth. With the huge pressure differentials between the upper and lower atmosphere, it is possible to build bases buoyed above the clouds that would be hospitable for humans.
Hi. I'm a self taught self appointed expert on implosions.
For my self affirmed Curriculum Vitae, I'm looking for volunteers to expand my expertise in "explosions".
Terms and dodgy conditions apply.
Go gratify yourself, you clown.
>I'm looking for volunteers to expand my expertise in "explosions".
Good thinking. It's definitely safer for people to explode *outwards* rather than inwards.
96.5% carbon dioxide and 3.5% nitrogen. Temperature at the surface 740 K, pressure 93 bar (1,350 psi). Clouds of sulfuric acid cover the entire planet. Bon voyage my man.
Hey, Elon! This guy thinks he'll get to the surface of Venus before you do. Gonna sit there and let him? Do it as soon as you can. Maybe cut a few corners if you have to
If we having issues sending them to Mars (radiation, etc) why would Venus be any easier. Especially considering the life of probes is measured in minutes or hours.
The theory goes if you stay in the upper atmosphere, the temperature and pressure would be earthlike. From there, you just need to solve the radiation and acidity.
Um...the surface temperature of Venus is about 870 degrees Farenheit (465 C). The atmosphere is almost completely composed of carbon dioxide. I'm pretty sure that means it is uninhabitable for humans.
At surface levels, yes. But floating habitats at around 50km are hypothesized to be compatible with most human needs with the exception of breathable air.
He's completely full of shit. The atmospheric pressure and temperatures on Venus would make that practically impossible. Every spacecraft that has ever landed on Venus has quickly failed because of the conditions there. Venera 13 holds the record and it lasted only a little over 2 hours. Not to mention the fact that it takes almost 4 months for spacecraft to travel there.
This dude is an idiot.
He isn't talking about landing on Venus he is talking about staying 50 km above the surface where the temps and atmospheric pressure is about the same as it is here on earth , that said i wouldnt trust him to blow up a paper bag .
The pressures of the deep ocean is outstanding and dangerous as we have all seen in the titan disaster. It exploded in microseconds; several times faster than a blink of the eye...
Venus has runaway greenhouse effect and has such a thick atmosphere that at the surface the pressure is like that of being 3,000ft underwater.
So dealing with similar conditions of pressure as before (though not as great as the depths of titanic); and not to mention Venus being an avg of circa 160 MILLION miles away from earth. And having to launch out of earth's atmosphere and travel there; AND BACK.
I wouldnt trust this guy with a potato gun.
Nooo, they don't want to go explore a vacuum. They keep wanting to go to places where EVERYTHING WANTS TO CRUSH YOU.
Do billionaires have a crushing fetish?
Ok, hear me out. The reason the sun sank was: one, they cut costs on titanium by using carbon fiber. That stuff is strong, but it hates pressure, and collapsed. And two, the hardware was sh!tty. But when going through space, there is very little pressure, and carbon fiber would be chill with it. JK that guy is an !mbicile.
Uhh...
Even if we assume that he was right and he could do it perfectly safely... How would you survive on Venus, and why would you want to go to Venus?
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Off you jolly well fuck, then.
"He believes that the challenges presented by Venus like carbon dioxide and clouds made of sulfuric acid “can be overcome with breathing apparatus and acid-resistant materials.” He seems to have a foolproof plan
It’s the intense pressure of the Venusian atmosphere I’d be concerned with, as his last vehicle didn’t handle pressure very well.
Yep. This is the first problem I see. The second is it's really fucking hot. Isn't it subverting like 80 times our pressure on earth? It's like that episode of Futurama. How many atmospheres of pressure can the ship take? Well it's a spaceship so anywhere from 0 to 1.
90 times. Yah… the acid and CO2 are the least of the worries.
They could avoid that by staying in the upper atmosphere. That said these people should never be allowed anything high-tech again.
They could have avoided killing people by not going in the water.
Accurate, ocean gate was staffed by inexperienced engineers, and led by a moron with a Deathwish. What I was saying that is if they stay in the upper atmosphere of Venus, the pressure is about the same as earth along with the temperature. That said I wouldn’t trust these guys near a spacecraft.
Well, that's all of my concerns sated.
Well jolly gee, I’m convinced!
I am sorry, the headline suggests sending humans to Venus, is there any mention of returning and in what condition?
“I said send you there, not return you from there. Tfoh.”
He's not wrong that thosechallenges can be solved with those means, however: 1. Implementing those solutions is the actual problem, thinking of the concept is easy. 2. There's more than just those 2 issues on a trip to Venus. The first is just getting there.
Maybe you should read the article instead of being so snarky. He also stated he would use an OEM game controller rather than third-party so I’m not sure what else you expect of him.
Haha nice
And the 870 degree surface temps??
Read the article (/s). Just build cities 50km above the surface. You know, Columbia style from Bioshock Infinite.
He should try it out just like the guy in Rick and Morty who thought he was acid proof.
It can be over 800 degrees on the surface of Venus
So it’s a good idea to bring popcorn
And a Logitech controller
I mean he’s not wrong if they stay in the upper atmosphere where the heat and pressure isn’t an issue. That said I don’t trust these guys to make a child’s toy, let alone some sort of outer space zeppelin.
So that just leaves the crushing atmospheric pressure and the surface temperature upwards of 700K.
Of course! The final step in a massive, complex goal is to simply believe in something.
Yea that's some fool me twice shit right there
Just like Elon lead by example sir show us how safe your plans are unlike Elon however I think this guy's dumb enough to actually go himself
You will find him shopping for parts at your local home depot in the spacecraft section. It's right next to the submersible section so he's pretty familiar.
Bro must be sweating the can’t get all his tech at RadioShack anymore.
Aliexpress for the win!
To get to Venus one needs to break out the big dogs! Temu and Wish!
Wish is so appropriately named for this particular venture.
He's seen some rocket engine kits in the aisle as he's passed by and always thought it would be kinda fun for a future project.
Either he is exceptionally stupid, or this is some clever plan he has come up with to slowly eliminate clout chasing billionaires with dangerous, sure to fail adventures. My guess he's got a bad case of the dumb-dumbs
Lol, the only robots we ever sent there lasted all of half an hour. Maybe let’s see if we can get an unmanned mission to last a day first.
Ngl Venus seems a more hospitable place than Mars in a few regards. Similar gravity, similar pressures & similar temperatures in the upper atmosphere. No real protection against radiations but Mars is the same. No way to go to the surface so it’s not very attractive but maybe if you market it like the city in The Empire Strikes Back, you can sell a few tickets before pulling the rug
I disagree; The pressures on the surface of Venus is akin to being 3,000 feet underwater. (Water pressure is what caused the titan to collapse in microseconds) All missions to venus lasted hours at most til the technology ultimately failed due to the pressure. Several rovers survived and are surviving for years on Mars. There is the opposite issue however; with a very thin atmosphere and practically zero radiation protection. Neither has life currently cuz its not currently compatible with life.
I think what he is saying is that the upper atmosphere has equivalent pressure and temperature as the surface of the earth. With the huge pressure differentials between the upper and lower atmosphere, it is possible to build bases buoyed above the clouds that would be hospitable for humans.
Hi. I'm a self taught self appointed expert on implosions. For my self affirmed Curriculum Vitae, I'm looking for volunteers to expand my expertise in "explosions". Terms and dodgy conditions apply. Go gratify yourself, you clown.
>I'm looking for volunteers to expand my expertise in "explosions". Good thinking. It's definitely safer for people to explode *outwards* rather than inwards.
If he comes back from the maiden flight, he'll earn the credibility he no longer has.
The worlds most creative serial killer.
I can send people over Niagara Falls and I have no engineering experience
How hard can it be? I managed to keep my egg from cracking in that 8th grade experiment! I must be an expert or something
I must say that I assisted my son in a similar endeavor and the egg survived a three story drop. Where do we sign up for funding?
Someone did survive going over the falls in a barrel so that technically possible just very stupid.
Lots of people have gone over the falls in barrels, afaik. Most of them survive, though the Canadians will fine you if you get caught.
96.5% carbon dioxide and 3.5% nitrogen. Temperature at the surface 740 K, pressure 93 bar (1,350 psi). Clouds of sulfuric acid cover the entire planet. Bon voyage my man.
I forgot about the high temperatures. Yea iif there is a hell; it aught to look like Venus
Found the pessimist. /s
Time for round two! Who wants to go this time? I vote for Jeff and Mark to go
Don’t forget Elon.
Well he'll want to use his own company
Hey, Elon! This guy thinks he'll get to the surface of Venus before you do. Gonna sit there and let him? Do it as soon as you can. Maybe cut a few corners if you have to
Yup that'll do it
They will use Switch controllers with motion control this time for better handling.
Oh no… lol. 😅
If we having issues sending them to Mars (radiation, etc) why would Venus be any easier. Especially considering the life of probes is measured in minutes or hours.
The theory goes if you stay in the upper atmosphere, the temperature and pressure would be earthlike. From there, you just need to solve the radiation and acidity.
Notice he’s not saying anything about bringing them back…
As long as his passengers are rich assholes then have at it.
Would be nice if Elon decided to try doing something that lives up to the icon he’s pretended to be
There needs to be a new TV show that sends egotistical billionaires on extremely hazardous adventures.
Boeing must be having a sale
But why?
Let me guess, all the experts are wrong again.
The fact that this man hasn't gone into seclusion out of remorse says it all. I'm just surprised he hasn't been buried under a mountain of lawsuits.
I have a list of people he can take.
He shouldn't be allowed near anything with pressures exceeding a bicycle tire.
Sign me up!
Of course, we can send humans safely to Venus. However, did he say they would coming back safely?!
Extremely safe. Once the check clears he is safe to spend their money.
Evrry calm down. Well all know how money works, and when some super rich people disappear onto an other planet, it's only better for everyone else.
You first!
The old con-man tactic of dividing and conquering. If one scam doesn’t work, abandon it and move on to something else, preferably more grandiose.
"It's so simple, we don't even need to land on the surface, we'll just float a city in the clouds!"
1 way trip only folks.
I fully support him getting a few dozen of his billionaire buddies and proving everyone who says he can't wrong. 
So they can't solve for high pressure but I'm sure they've solved for no pressure right? Right?
I don’t doubt humans could one day have a settlement on Venus, but I sure as shit don’t trust this guy to do it.
Um...the surface temperature of Venus is about 870 degrees Farenheit (465 C). The atmosphere is almost completely composed of carbon dioxide. I'm pretty sure that means it is uninhabitable for humans.
At surface levels, yes. But floating habitats at around 50km are hypothesized to be compatible with most human needs with the exception of breathable air.
So replacing inhospitable temperatures with lethal doses of gamma radiation is the better option?
Having a team of Hulks crewing the colony would make repairs much easier. Or harder, depending on which form they have, I guess.
Please take Elon Musk with you
Can get em there….
All of the billionaires should go, sounds like fun
Technically I can send anyone safely to any planet. Landing and surviving? Fingers crossed.
This has to be a joke, right?..... right?
Do it... A message to all billionaires willing to fund and travel. Do it. Please. Signed : everyone working for you.
This man is mentally ill.
He's completely full of shit. The atmospheric pressure and temperatures on Venus would make that practically impossible. Every spacecraft that has ever landed on Venus has quickly failed because of the conditions there. Venera 13 holds the record and it lasted only a little over 2 hours. Not to mention the fact that it takes almost 4 months for spacecraft to travel there. This dude is an idiot.
He isn't talking about landing on Venus he is talking about staying 50 km above the surface where the temps and atmospheric pressure is about the same as it is here on earth , that said i wouldnt trust him to blow up a paper bag .
At least spring for an official Xbox controller this time dude.
Will they fly the spacecraft with a PlayStation controller?
The pressures of the deep ocean is outstanding and dangerous as we have all seen in the titan disaster. It exploded in microseconds; several times faster than a blink of the eye... Venus has runaway greenhouse effect and has such a thick atmosphere that at the surface the pressure is like that of being 3,000ft underwater. So dealing with similar conditions of pressure as before (though not as great as the depths of titanic); and not to mention Venus being an avg of circa 160 MILLION miles away from earth. And having to launch out of earth's atmosphere and travel there; AND BACK. I wouldnt trust this guy with a potato gun.
Depending on how you define safely, sure.
He can "safely" fund the expedition and monitor its progress from home.
Cool. Send all the billionaires.
I'll have what he's freebasing
Nooo, they don't want to go explore a vacuum. They keep wanting to go to places where EVERYTHING WANTS TO CRUSH YOU. Do billionaires have a crushing fetish?
If you're going to do that I'd suggest a PS5 controller this time.
They might die in the process, but he would remain safely here on Earth. /s
We know we can *send* things to Venus and that presumably means people. It’s the getting back part that’s the trick.
Can we send this guy to Uranus?
Yeah sure, dude. You go first.
Yes he can send them, it's what happens when they get there that you need to worry about
I wouldn’t ride in a car with that guy.
Sulfuric acid rain and temperatures that melt lead on the surface. Sure. Sure you can.
The fact there seems to be a market for this shit tells you that being a billionaires must fuck up your head to an absurd degree.
he means, he'll be safely on earth.
Ok, hear me out. The reason the sun sank was: one, they cut costs on titanium by using carbon fiber. That stuff is strong, but it hates pressure, and collapsed. And two, the hardware was sh!tty. But when going through space, there is very little pressure, and carbon fiber would be chill with it. JK that guy is an !mbicile.
Don't worry, the sun will rise one day. :) ^((Sorry, had to do it))
Pretty sure he can't send humans to Florida safely, let along anywhere else. It seems lies are trendy these days in tech circles.
This needs to be edited to say “human remains”
He's probably fighting off investors with an umbrella right now.
I’m sure it will be safe. For him. Not so much for those he sends…
Nah he’s high if he thinks he can bro
You first friend
Here's what a proposed real mission to Venus looks like: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zephyr_(rover)
~~Venus~~ __Hades__
Sure! You First!
Here we go again :/
I will kiss the girl from Venus …FOR SCIENCE
Start with the billionaires, please
Maybe you can get some pointers from the Mars One project.
Yeah, OK bro.
Uhh... Even if we assume that he was right and he could do it perfectly safely... How would you survive on Venus, and why would you want to go to Venus?
No thanks.
I don't trust this dude to send an email let alone a person any where
I fully suppory this sort of thing as a means to deal with the billionaire problem.
The only conceivable way of surviving on Venus is in some kind of cloud city.
*Come! Join me in my extraterrestrial grave!*
Lol
This guy should hire Terrence Howard. I'm sure between the 2 of them they can figure it out
"""""safely""""""
You first. Alone.
Define "safely"