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On VII/III/MMXXIV this great nation has had the courage to fight Arabic numeral invasion. Well done America for XX time this year you have made me proud. I never thought it would happen. I’m XLI and I have been practice for this moment for the past XXIII years.
I moved to Colorado s few years ago from the west coast so I run into lots of Texans now. Is it the fattest state or something? 95% of the people who climb out of a truck with Texas plates have been loudmouthed fatass dipshits.
Yes, back to Latin numbers to distance ourselves from uncultured swines who dare use Arabic numerals. While we're at it, shall we also replace all use of the letter 'u' by 'v'?
If I'm reading this correctly you are 31 and been practicing for this moment for 23 years? I can't remember what L is lmfao 🤣 I haven't touched these numerals since middle school many years ago
You do realise that there is such a thing known as Arabic numerals. The ones we use today are loosely based on them but not the actual ones they use in Arabic countries.
1 = ١
2 = ٢
3 = ٣
4 = ٤
5 = ٥
6 = ٦
7 = ٧
8 = ٨
9 = ٩
Etc…
Just use the Arabic keyboard on your smartphone and you’ll see..
123 is Western Arabic numerals
١٢٣ is Eastern Arabic numerals
The 123 set are derived from the symbols used in Arab North Africa (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, etc.) and Arab controlled Spain where it then spread further into Europe, while the ١٢٣ set is what was used in the Middle East (Iraq, Syria, Arabia, etc.)
No, those are Eastern Arabic numerals, sometimes used in Persia. ‘Arabic numerals’ (12345) are (how strange) the actual ones used in Arab nations, especially ones towards the West.
But we call 1,2,3... arabic numerals. The ones you showed are referred to as Indian numerals.
It all has to do with how the number system traveled from china to India to the middle east to Europe.
So when referring to our number system, "Arabic numerals" *IS* accurate.
I am about to give up on humanity, if it weren't for some bright sparks out there that gives me a smidge of hope everything isn't lost, I don't think I would like to be around any more.
The issue for me is the internet. It's just too easy to see the worst of people. But I've found that if you go places and meet people in real life, they're usually quite kind. Sure there's bigots, but most of the people that you'll speak to while out and about are kind, or at the very least polite. I just find it sad that bad experiences tend to stick out to us more. If you're conscious of positive interactions though, it can be amazing how many there are when you just look
the same question was also in my country in Europe. It looked similar. So it's not just about the USA, but in general about the global stupidity of people
It's definitely ignorance, but hardly bigotry. Not wanting your kid to learn a "foreign" numbering system is pretty valid if they aren't going to use it and theres better use of their time. Obviously in this case, it's not a foreign numbering system (hence the ignorance). If the question was the Arabic language instead, pretty valid to not want to waste time learning that rather than focus on english etc.
I hope you appreciate that you actually took the time to try and convince the replies that it's not bigotry, only ignorance. "it's not racism. It's just that they don't want to use numbers associated with brown skinned foreigners who they're racist against".
That's the dumbest shit I've read today, so kudos. It's early still, but I'm confident that the profundity and abundance of stupidity of your comment is going to keep it at the top of the pile for the rest of the day. That's particularly fitting today, as a bunch of non-bigots celebrate by drunkenly running around setting things on fire to celebrate their freedom while voicing their support for a man who is telling them that he's going to take freedoms away when elected. There isn't a post on the whole of Reddit that is better suited then yours for this day. Congratulations, sir. You *are* America!
It's funny how Al Khwarizmi the arabic scholar himself credits the Hindus for this system but white people got it from Arabs so I guess it's "Arabic numerals" now.
no those are the arabic numerals
١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ are the indian numerals which are used in arabic alongside the aforementioned arabic numerals
yes we use both indian and arabic numerals but the indian ones are more popular
I'm up for Japanese numerals instead. 1, 2 and 3 make a lot more sense than ours, then it gets a bit weird.
They also have a specific numeral (and word) for ten thousand billion, for 1 trillion, a hundred million, ten thousand and one thousand. Which is nice. Instead of writing 10,000,000,000,000,000 you just write 京 (or say 'Kei') and you're done.
Incorrect. The numerals are from and developed in the Arab world.
However arabic numerals operates under a *numbering system* developed in India (base 10, positonal notation, existence of 0 as a unique number, decimal places etc.)
It's like how most languages use an alphabet, but that doesn't mean that each alphabet was actually from Greece because they came up with the *system* of alphabets.
Today, at XOO/XXX/XXXXXXOXOOO, the accursed Arabic numeral systems have been deleted from history. We shall use the one true binary system granted by our divine AI god!
WTF America? We have been using Arabic numerals from before the US even existed, for fucks sake it all any one uses in the world, how the fuck are they this fucking dumb?
It’s not all anyone uses though. Oddly enough, Arabs use Indian Numerals these days. I had to learn both numbering systems growing up and sometimes still get my 2s and 6s messed up.
You do realise that there is such a thing known as Arabic numerals. The ones we use today are loosely based on them but not the actual ones they use in Arabic countries.
1 = ١
2 = ٢
3 = ٣
4 = ٤
5 = ٥
6 = ٦
7 = ٧
8 = ٨
9 = ٩
Etc…
Just use the Arabic keyboard on your smartphone and you’ll see..
> The ones we use today are loosely based on them but not the actual ones they use in Arabic countries.
In the west they call them "Arabic numerals" because of where they came here from.
In Arabic regions they call the ones used with Arabic script "Hindu numerals" (الأرقام الهندوسية) for the same reason.
I think we might be confusing West Arabic(0-9) and East Arabic numerals which are really different, though I can't think of a reason why Americans should know East Arabic numerals
This and the one where they list the chemical composition of an apple and ask if they would eat it are so old by now that people just aren’t paying attention.
.١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩ - these aren't Arabic numbers by the way. Origins are from ancient India, and there are for it's badly integrated in Arabic language. Otherwise why it would be to write numbers left to right when whole language is written l
Right to left? And ind Arabic texts they often write numbers and dates just by words 🤷♂️☝️🙏
Where was this survey from? Who are the 2000 or so people who contributed? This tells us nothing without context and so is designed to cause the exact response almost everyone on here is giving. This sort of post is designed to fragment society. Don't fall for it.
The numbers from 0-9 are called Arabic numerals as they were introduced by Arabs to western world and they were actually from India.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-we-call-Arabic-numerals-the-way-it-is-when-in-reality-the-Arabs-got-those-numbers-from-India
Wiki Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals?wprov=sfti1
American education system failed americans in the first place. You can see their ignorance in almost all kinds of polls these days.
It’s all some deep state plot by the Scions of the Roman Empire. First, they shove the Roman Alphabet down our throats; then some mathematician from Pisa, Leonardo Pisano Fi’Bonacci (really a member of the Illuminati) starts shoving a 10 base number system transcribed in Hindu-Arabic script down our throats because with those figures, according to him, “any number whatsoever is written”.
There’s a conspiracy for you.
/s
I would say for an extra curricular activity and maybe involved something with the Middle East or anything along that but as a common knowledge I don't even think we teach Roman numerals anymore
"A score and a score and a score and a score and a year and a year and a year and a year and a year and a year and a year ago our fathers brought forth upon this continent a new nation..."
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On VII/III/MMXXIV this great nation has had the courage to fight Arabic numeral invasion. Well done America for XX time this year you have made me proud. I never thought it would happen. I’m XLI and I have been practice for this moment for the past XXIII years.
I’m 54, and will never understand roman numerals as long as I LIV.
r/angryupvote
Why are you angry, that was good!
I love that a slightly incorrect way to write 69 is LIXX
Nice!
Yep, that's what she said! ...I'll see myself out, thank you!...
Lick(s)
That’s a good one!
Dude...
I will need ✌️ beers after this...
5 beers?!? It wasn’t *that* bad of a joke!
Schroedinger's beer
I guess the next poll should be about using words of arabic origin. Welcome to the XXI Century.
Americans already tried to ban alcohol. Didn't work well...
I guess they couldn't handle the *lemons* life gave them
*When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life get the lemons back! Get mad!*
Burn life’s house down with the lemons.
They tried to legislate the value of pi to be 3.2 (well, Indiana did).
What an irrational thought.
There are not decimal nor fractions in roman numbers 🥲
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2016/05/31/arabic-weather-term-haboob-is-apparently-troubling-for-some-texans/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2016/05/31/arabic-weather-term-haboob-is-apparently-troubling-for-some-texans/)
Ugh... Lets hope theese texans never watch the night sky. Deneb, Altair, Mirach, Aldebaran, Hamal, Alkaid... Might be too much for them.
I mean most believe in a flat earth anyway
I moved to Colorado s few years ago from the west coast so I run into lots of Texans now. Is it the fattest state or something? 95% of the people who climb out of a truck with Texas plates have been loudmouthed fatass dipshits.
I thought they just got terrified of the word 'boob'. Cause they seem utterly offended by the existence of women
To haboobs!!
California is banned everyone!
Now use that with imperial units: How many gallons of water fit into a XL feet long freight container?
We talking regular or high cube XL containers?
Just when I thought the American middle endian date system could not be made any worse...
for rome!
now the latinos are taking over
IV/VII/MMXXIV**
I wonder how many people can read this without looking up Roman numerals.
Remind me what L means in Roman numerals?
Yes, back to Latin numbers to distance ourselves from uncultured swines who dare use Arabic numerals. While we're at it, shall we also replace all use of the letter 'u' by 'v'?
If I'm reading this correctly you are 31 and been practicing for this moment for 23 years? I can't remember what L is lmfao 🤣 I haven't touched these numerals since middle school many years ago
Nice work there dudebruh
'I love the poorly educated!'
They are too many... **and they elect the president**
...what explains why DT is so popular. Sigh
"It's better the Roman style, not the Martyr"
Wow! I guess 57% probably should have googled Arabic numbers before taking the poll. Just saying
29% did Google Arabic numerals.
14% didn't google but were too scared to answer wrong
Honestly I respect those jist as much as the ones that did google
Or maybe just went to school.
I'm sorry, I can't read the results
I think you mean LVII%
You do realise that there is such a thing known as Arabic numerals. The ones we use today are loosely based on them but not the actual ones they use in Arabic countries. 1 = ١ 2 = ٢ 3 = ٣ 4 = ٤ 5 = ٥ 6 = ٦ 7 = ٧ 8 = ٨ 9 = ٩ Etc… Just use the Arabic keyboard on your smartphone and you’ll see..
123 is Western Arabic numerals ١٢٣ is Eastern Arabic numerals The 123 set are derived from the symbols used in Arab North Africa (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, etc.) and Arab controlled Spain where it then spread further into Europe, while the ١٢٣ set is what was used in the Middle East (Iraq, Syria, Arabia, etc.)
No, those are Eastern Arabic numerals, sometimes used in Persia. ‘Arabic numerals’ (12345) are (how strange) the actual ones used in Arab nations, especially ones towards the West.
But we call 1,2,3... arabic numerals. The ones you showed are referred to as Indian numerals. It all has to do with how the number system traveled from china to India to the middle east to Europe. So when referring to our number system, "Arabic numerals" *IS* accurate.
Stop posting facts they are not welcome
You’re poorly educated too clearly
I like how LVII% of the people are favoring progress
What next? Teaching Latin alphabet and other woke, inclusive nonsense?
I never fail to be amazed by American ignorance and bigotry.
What’s it like to be optimistic about your fellow man? Human ignorance almost never surprises me.
I am about to give up on humanity, if it weren't for some bright sparks out there that gives me a smidge of hope everything isn't lost, I don't think I would like to be around any more.
The issue for me is the internet. It's just too easy to see the worst of people. But I've found that if you go places and meet people in real life, they're usually quite kind. Sure there's bigots, but most of the people that you'll speak to while out and about are kind, or at the very least polite. I just find it sad that bad experiences tend to stick out to us more. If you're conscious of positive interactions though, it can be amazing how many there are when you just look
Happy cake day!
the same question was also in my country in Europe. It looked similar. So it's not just about the USA, but in general about the global stupidity of people
Not limited to Americans. Just asked the dude next to me (germany), and he answered with "no" as well.
And people wonder why we fail at PISA test every year.
You can't fail at PISA, the results are mostly presented as a ranking.
Curious if other countries were given this poll. What were their results?
Honestly, the only surprising thing here is that so many people said yes.
It's definitely ignorance, but hardly bigotry. Not wanting your kid to learn a "foreign" numbering system is pretty valid if they aren't going to use it and theres better use of their time. Obviously in this case, it's not a foreign numbering system (hence the ignorance). If the question was the Arabic language instead, pretty valid to not want to waste time learning that rather than focus on english etc.
They also might have to learn binary code *vomits*
I hope you appreciate that you actually took the time to try and convince the replies that it's not bigotry, only ignorance. "it's not racism. It's just that they don't want to use numbers associated with brown skinned foreigners who they're racist against". That's the dumbest shit I've read today, so kudos. It's early still, but I'm confident that the profundity and abundance of stupidity of your comment is going to keep it at the top of the pile for the rest of the day. That's particularly fitting today, as a bunch of non-bigots celebrate by drunkenly running around setting things on fire to celebrate their freedom while voicing their support for a man who is telling them that he's going to take freedoms away when elected. There isn't a post on the whole of Reddit that is better suited then yours for this day. Congratulations, sir. You *are* America!
For those that don’t know, 1 2 3 etc are “Arabic numerals.”
I mean the original poll was baity for those who simply did not know
Yet they still felt the need to input their opinion
That's the whole point. The poll was intended to catch proud ignorance.
Yes, and people who don't understand stuff should learn about it before taking a stance.
I want to make a mention politic but I don't know how to do it properly so here you go
Arabs actually use different numbers. Just visit an Arabian country and see for yourself.
No they’re not. Those are Indian numerals.
It's funny how Al Khwarizmi the arabic scholar himself credits the Hindus for this system but white people got it from Arabs so I guess it's "Arabic numerals" now.
Which is actually Indian
no those are the arabic numerals ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ are the indian numerals which are used in arabic alongside the aforementioned arabic numerals yes we use both indian and arabic numerals but the indian ones are more popular
Americans when they see "Arab" in a sentence
I'm up for Japanese numerals instead. 1, 2 and 3 make a lot more sense than ours, then it gets a bit weird. They also have a specific numeral (and word) for ten thousand billion, for 1 trillion, a hundred million, ten thousand and one thousand. Which is nice. Instead of writing 10,000,000,000,000,000 you just write 京 (or say 'Kei') and you're done.
As « Arabic » numerals are in fact from India, it is fine.
How come so few people know this
Incorrect. The numerals are from and developed in the Arab world. However arabic numerals operates under a *numbering system* developed in India (base 10, positonal notation, existence of 0 as a unique number, decimal places etc.) It's like how most languages use an alphabet, but that doesn't mean that each alphabet was actually from Greece because they came up with the *system* of alphabets.
Hindu-arabic numerals
Pizza is Italian-American ?
Today, at XOO/XXX/XXXXXXOXOOO, the accursed Arabic numeral systems have been deleted from history. We shall use the one true binary system granted by our divine AI god!
Unfortunatly the 0 is also arabic, roman numerals have no 0, and thus can't be binary.
All hail the ai overlords
Should repost get so many upvotes?
Stop reposting this shit. I've seen this same meme reposted at least XIV times today. Stop it!!!!
Fuck Arabic numerals, return to Roman! Hey bartender, ✌️ five pints of beer please
So what numbers were used for the 10 Commandments. Just throwing this in there to hurt some brains.
Obviously the God given Christian numerals. Christ was actually named after them centuries later when they added not to most of the commandments.
This timeline is hopelessly stupid.
Tbf I wouldn’t expect the average American to know what that
I wouldn’t expect anyone to know that Arabic numerals are what we use.
Most people don’t know, I sure didn’t until I read about it online. It’s not really necessary information
REPOST BOT. Account has either been bought or stolen.
WTF America? We have been using Arabic numerals from before the US even existed, for fucks sake it all any one uses in the world, how the fuck are they this fucking dumb?
It’s not all anyone uses though. Oddly enough, Arabs use Indian Numerals these days. I had to learn both numbering systems growing up and sometimes still get my 2s and 6s messed up.
You do realise that there is such a thing known as Arabic numerals. The ones we use today are loosely based on them but not the actual ones they use in Arabic countries. 1 = ١ 2 = ٢ 3 = ٣ 4 = ٤ 5 = ٥ 6 = ٦ 7 = ٧ 8 = ٨ 9 = ٩ Etc… Just use the Arabic keyboard on your smartphone and you’ll see..
> The ones we use today are loosely based on them but not the actual ones they use in Arabic countries. In the west they call them "Arabic numerals" because of where they came here from. In Arabic regions they call the ones used with Arabic script "Hindu numerals" (الأرقام الهندوسية) for the same reason.
What about Al Jebra ?
These are not Arabic, these are Persian and were stolen by arabs like everything they have.
Best country my ass😂😂😂😂
They are Indian
Yes but not enough is being done to educate and ban the use of dihydrogen monoxide. It is everywhere, but has so many ill effects including death.
They should learn Roman instead
Perhaps they can start first selecting an official language first.
This is just what al Gebra wants
I saw this years ago
Now do a poll on Christian Nationalist numbers …Those Arabs and their numbers are invading our school borders.
Just remember, Rome fell because without a zero, they couldn't terminate their C programs.
Only patriot numerals will do.
Why?
Why?
Why what
Why this question. (Phew!)
I guess you would get the same or even more lopsided result if the same is asked to people in Arab countries about Hindu numerals!
I think we might be confusing West Arabic(0-9) and East Arabic numerals which are really different, though I can't think of a reason why Americans should know East Arabic numerals
Based on this, they clearly don't
From a country that declared Moses as founding father
We’re doomed.
😂😂😂😂😂
Yes they should
It's that or using those invading Latin numerals.
We want American numerals!
Knowledge is power, so make sure we limit that as much as possible.
Roman Numeral Trigonometry is hard, bro.
Alright so this one is actually pretty darn funny.
The American education system is beyond horrible. Now I understand why Trump is so popular
LVII % think it's a Bad Idea.
Are there freedom numbers? Where is that option? (/s i am being sarcastic here, just to be clear)
I’m still waiting for them to include pig latin in the syllabus
do “who’s buried in Grant’s tomb?” next!
All right students. Please solve for x. VII^II + XXIII / IX = x
This and the one where they list the chemical composition of an apple and ask if they would eat it are so old by now that people just aren’t paying attention.
LOL
Call me stupid, but isn't our numeral system already the Arabic one?
Lets stop teaching numbers 👍
This is clearly just people trolling.
.١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩ - these aren't Arabic numbers by the way. Origins are from ancient India, and there are for it's badly integrated in Arabic language. Otherwise why it would be to write numbers left to right when whole language is written l Right to left? And ind Arabic texts they often write numbers and dates just by words 🤷♂️☝️🙏
Clearly, some people skipped a few too many math classes
Morons are so stupid they don’t even know what they are mad about.
Where was this survey from? Who are the 2000 or so people who contributed? This tells us nothing without context and so is designed to cause the exact response almost everyone on here is giving. This sort of post is designed to fragment society. Don't fall for it.
Correct, they should teach the Indian Numerals instead.
Hahahaha. In my (not American) school they told us about Roman vs "Arabic" numerals. I now call them Hindu numerals.
The numbers from 0-9 are called Arabic numerals as they were introduced by Arabs to western world and they were actually from India. https://www.quora.com/Why-do-we-call-Arabic-numerals-the-way-it-is-when-in-reality-the-Arabs-got-those-numbers-from-India Wiki Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals?wprov=sfti1 American education system failed americans in the first place. You can see their ignorance in almost all kinds of polls these days.
Modern arab numbers are not the same as the ones used in modern latin script, OP is just being a pretentious asshat.
Funny how they kinda forgot Arabic numerals are 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10, etc. God help us all. How the fuck did people this stupid survive to adulthood?
No to Arabic Numerals. Freedom Figures all the way!
Bruh. The literal percentages are in Arabic Numerals🤦🏻♂️
Yes. And they should clearly teach more history as well. We’re surrounded by ignorant morons.
american education is wild
No need for Arabic (1,2,3), but Cyrillic (д, ж, и, Є, Ц) might come handy, if Trump wins the elections... 🤭
American idiots and school system at it's finest.
Trust me that more than 57% of americans are idiots.
Its like repuglicans being against unisex bathrooms, meanwhile they all have them in their homes.
Dumb racist fuckers.
It’s all some deep state plot by the Scions of the Roman Empire. First, they shove the Roman Alphabet down our throats; then some mathematician from Pisa, Leonardo Pisano Fi’Bonacci (really a member of the Illuminati) starts shoving a 10 base number system transcribed in Hindu-Arabic script down our throats because with those figures, according to him, “any number whatsoever is written”. There’s a conspiracy for you. /s
Oh, boy!
I would say for an extra curricular activity and maybe involved something with the Middle East or anything along that but as a common knowledge I don't even think we teach Roman numerals anymore
Fun Fact: Someone did a poll to decide if we should bomb the city in aladdin and a lot of people voted they should
Stupid people vote for anything, as long as the tax payer funds… I mean forgives, their college/university fees. Ban Dihygrogen Oxide!
"A score and a score and a score and a score and a year and a year and a year and a year and a year and a year and a year ago our fathers brought forth upon this continent a new nation..."
... after being this bigoted and racist, they still get offended like a white shirt
Is this a question from that girl who graduated from a New York City high school a couple of years with a 0.0 GPA?
Love this answer. Bring back Roman numbers!
Americans would vote against teaching the new form of the anglo-saxon language in schools
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Now, how about Phoenician alphabet as it came from where is nowadays Lebanon, so also Arab?
Idiots
let's jut rename them to "freedom numerals".
Like 0123456789 or the squiggly ones?
Our Government School systems are substandard compared to what education in this country should be.
ROFL!
Goes to show you how stupid people have become.
And those people can vote...
Should whoever reposts this next be flogged and hunted trough the streets by a mob?