People have gone to jail for less. How many stories are out there of a guy punching someone in the face, who cracks their head on the sidewalk and dies, and a murder charge is caught.
Ill answer for you. Quite a few. This isnt any different.
Wow. I just posted in response to another comment about my friend killing someone who hit a curb with his head during argument. My friend is in prison for murder.
Yoooo same! I went to high school with a kid who got in a fight with an older dude outside a bar. Dude got knocked out, hit his head on a curb, had an aneurysm and died. Highschooler got charged with murder and went to prison.
A kid pushed me in the back at a house party one night as I was going down the basement stairs. I planted both arms as far out to my side and got purchase against the walls and stopped myself.
I had not looked at or even said a word to this kid all night. Mostly just chatting with friends around the house here and there. He was lucky I didn't return the favor. Ended up talking to him for a long time, he was really sorry. He was crying he was so sorry. He was telling me he was just insecure and I was the biggest guy there and he was the smallest.
Could have been very different life paths because someone lacked confidence. I hope that was a wakeup call for him. I didn't really do parties after that.
Thereās one of you in most accidental murder threads. Itās very common.
I took steps to mitigate this by getting rid of all them
And Iām still alive.
I got into a argument with a stranger the other day, I didn't want a fight, but I also shouldn't have answered his insults with worst insults, I ended being punched in the face, but I ended to choose not to retaliate for that exact reason, I'm two meters tall, and the last time I was in a figh (it was in eight grade), I know if I start to fight I won't be able to control my anger, so in fear of being arest for fighting in public at beast, or at worst, for the result of the fight, I did nothing and the guy just walked away, later (next weak) he found me in the metro and apologised, explaining that he wasn't himself, he was having a really bad day, and it just happend, and I also apologised to him
If the intent was to scare him when throwing him down, and he dies instead, the addition of "accidently" would be applicable. The act itself is not the accident, but the unintended outcome would be.
Intent matters, and also whether something is **foreseeable**. Is it foreseeable that pushing someone backwards down a huge flight of concrete stairs could lead to death? Of course. Here's a case in South Africa that lead to attempted murder charges https://au.news.yahoo.com/attempted-murder-charge-after-airbnb-guest-thrown-down-stairs-36335551.html
I was on a jury for a murder trial about 20 years ago. Texas. The judge's instructions were if we found that the accused acted in a manner that they knew **or should have known** could cause serious injury or death, then we were directed to find them guilty. And we did.
If you hit a motorcycle with your car during a fit of road rage, and they die, is it accidental?
I don't feel like the outcome of doing something deliberately dangerous to someone should count as an accident. Personally at least. I think every state can handle this differently.
I thought the guy fell on his own, and I was going to comment, that I'm terrified of that for myself. I'm smaller, but just a lot clumsy and sometimes those stairs are so steep.
I have the video paused because I'm not sure I want to watch the dark haired guy throw him down. I can't watch this sort of stuff.
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Nobody, except the players, have any real skin in the game. Any fan who is that emotionally attached to a game they watch, probably has bigger issues they should focus on.
I really wanted to go there, and the website told me I was accepted, but when I showed up the guy who answered the door told me I must be looking for the school down the road... weird vibes. Cool ass skate ramp out back though
That's a great team name, but my all-time favorite is the original name for the Arizona State Sun Devils.
Back when the school first started, it was called the Normal School of Arizona, which is what teacher's colleges used to be called. Their team name was "The Normals".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1899\_Normal\_School\_of\_Arizona\_Normals\_football\_team
Like it or not, sports are sanctioned tribalism. Even plenty of seemingly normal people in every other aspect of life can go nuts over sports. Just look at what happens in a country after the world cup. Or any time Philly wins something. That's not just weirdos. Sports speak to a primal aspect of humanity.
Yeah, I used to be like that when I was younger and emotionally immature. Then I had an epiphany and realized that I am way too emotionally invested in something that I have no control over.
It's been amazing watching sports ever since. I still have my teams but I don't get angry or sad or anything anymore when they lose.
It's just a stupid fucking game. It's hard to not laugh at people who wrap their entire identities up in a sports team
For whatever reason, sports serve as a proxy for other, larger grievances - often geographic, sometimes culture, can be political. Not to excuse poor fan behavior, just to say itās not always as simple as the laundry the teams are wearing.
It is actually. The idiots taking the "laundry the teams are wearing" more seriously than they should don't get the benefit of us rationalizing them as anything but emotional at best and irrational at worst. Stop coddling idiots.
Tribalism is not an excuse. An explanation maybe, but no excuse. You saying "it isn't as simple" IS excusing them. You can add factors like rivalries etc, but not whitewash their irrational behavior through circumstance. They are additions, not Nuance.
They literally said itās not an excuse. The fact that domestic violence rates go up so consistently after soccer matches in the UK that they make PSAs about it should tell you that people sublimate other issues into their investment in sports. Thatās not whitewashing, itās behavioral observation.
People donāt always compartmentalize well and they have unhealthy and unreasonable reactions to things that would be innocuous and fun for someone else.
Thereās a video of him standing up piss drunk instigating people all game. This is just bound to happen if you act like an animal in front of a crowd of people.
Canāt confirm, but it was alleged he also spit on someone, maybe the guy who eventually sent him tumbling down. All the kings horses and men werenāt needed for the recovery, though.
Could've died and could've taken an innocent bystander or two with him. Regardless of his size, an uncontrolled fall down what's essentially a long staircase could be devastating for him or anyone who happened to be in the aisle.
Youāre right and I feel bad for him. But causes have effects and getting plastered and shouting at people 90% of the time will end up in a really terrible situation like this.
Idk what to say, real life is usually like this.
His body mass is also significantly higher than a fit person's. All that weight can lead to significantly worse outcomes in a fall. It really comes down to how they land.
Honestly if a fight started in my section at a game I would just walk away. How many times have you seen somebody go in to help or break things up and get KOd? I'm not risking a broken jaw or worse because some idiots want to fight over their sports team.
I think after he flinched the push was pretty equal or common response. But the guy kept with it until he actually fell so the push became more of a slow motion tackle/throw? if he had just done a quick little boop push *then* the stair roll started Iād be like ahhh shit the dude didnāt even mean all that. But no heās like grabbing his taint and obviously trying really hard to get him to fall- thatās too far even if the fatty started it. I can understand a push back but he did much more than a shoulder tap
Yeah that was really gross. People are way too happy to get their little fight fetish on so they can feel like a big man. It's fuckin pathetic and he's lucky he didn't break that guy's neck or hurt anyone else on the sidelines.
I went to one NFL game when I moved to San Diegoā¦never again. A bunch of drunk man-children dressed in tube socks, jorts below the knee, and Chargers jerseys, all getting drunk and trying to start fights with the other fans.
This is actually the Bears vs Eagles game. There just happened to be a person in Green Bay gear. Either way, still no reason for violence. There should have been an assault charge.
This was straight out of a WWF match. Just like when the bad guy wrestler goes to pin the good guy and then grabs his tights and pulls them down for extra leverage as the ref counts to three.
You may be running into the issue that I am....risk adverse adulthood. All I could think is if I were the guy at the top of those stairs.....I would be REALLY hoping he stopped rolling and wasn't very very hurt. You hear all those scary stories about 1 punch deaths from street fights and this looks like it easily could have been a manslaughter charge caught on video by at least tens of people.
Hi. Juris Doctor here who studied a lot of negligent criminal charges in his day. You are correct that if there was some type of injury here and even if argued under the right circumstances (clearly stairs in the winter are going to be extra icy) then this is for sure a potential second degree/negligent murder that could likely be talked down to some involuntary manslaughter.
He could have also gave him a permanent spinal injury.. I bet someone alive, in a wheelchair, sitting in a courtroom would get a lot of sympathy from a jury.
It would be involuntary manslaughter. He didn't mean to kill him, but his actions were intended to inflict harm without proper regard for potential consequences.
I feel bad for the guy. His naked ass will stay on the internet for decades.
Edit: I saw another video on Tik Tok. The heavy guy was drunk and he was looking for altercation.
Yup, this is easily a sexual offense (changed to reflect what it could be based under) charge, not to mention if there were any kids nearby that could've been exposed to his private areas also catching another charge.
Hed actually even lose in court even if it was brought up that big boy may have started it due to his overall response.
Guy should be banned from all stadiums as he is clearly a liability for any places like this due to his anger.
I get some people think you couldn't push the issue for a sexual assault charge. So let me ask you this, what if this was the same situation, but instead of the fat guy, we replace it with a woman?
You are 100% catching a sexual assault charge if you de-pants a woman in public. There should be no difference for a man. We can argue all day that he could hardly keep them up prior to the scuffle. You could argue he reached back there to get a better grip on him to throw him, but that hardly makes the situation better and you could probably convince a jury or judge that he reached back there with the intent to drop his pants further so he couldn't use his legs when he was shoved.
Regardless, the skinny dude is in way more trouble despite who started it. This assumes that charges were even brought against them as I haven't seen anything and this was on the 4th.
Yeah, a case could be made for attempted murder.
Shoving someone down a staircase like 100 feet long could easily kill a person.
Buddy didn't fall the whole way down, sure. But there is no way the other fella could have known how far buddy would fall.
Right here with you!!! What is so great about hitting each other? And why are people cheering this on?
Edit: wow didnāt expect such a response. That said I want to highlight that people donāt get how dangerous a stupid fight like that one is. This isnāt MMA or Boxing where two trained professionals get it on with a referee and rules. That is Entertainment. This is Joe and Dan going at it for no good reason and the outcome can be tragic. A good friend of mine is a brain surgeon and he hates the Fourth of July because people push each other one falls backwards fractures his skull and loses the ability to walkā¦. Why? Because Joe inadvertently cut in front of Dan. Joe can no longer walk and Dan is in jail. Yay fighting!
Iām going to have to disagree that fighting is āfunā to watch. The one time I saw a legit fight I almost puked. The sound of someone fists crushing someoneās face is not something I want to remember or ever see again
The only fight that I remember witnessing was between two ladies in the parking lot of Walmart. I couldn't exactly leave since I was working there at the time and my job was pushing carts so I had to stay outside. The security vehicle pulled up and the security guard tried to intervene. I'll never forget the sound it made when one of them then proceeded to slam the other girl's head into the car door.
Well at least now he can sue for sexual assault. Exposing someone against their will... That's definitely a charge not to mention the assault by purposely pulling him backwards so he fell down the stairs.
I would've stayed down and played dead until the cops came then he might've got attempted murder once they seen the video
Over on r/CHIBears, OP states the big guy is indeed a Packers fan, and bought a Philly hat just to show his hatred for the Bears. He was wearing a Chicago scarf because one of his friends lent it to him during the game.
If I remember correctly, big guy was talking a lot of shit and the people around him were getting pretty sick of it. Slim walks up and tells him there's kids around, and big guy basically told him to stfu. Then it got heated and that's more or less when the video started.
Look, I know a lot of y'all are making fun of the Packers fan and that's on y'all...
Regardless of his political affiliation/ sports team/ physical appearance, it's NOT OK to do what was done to him. Short of the dude pulling a firearm or a knife, that was absolutely uncalled for.
What is wrong with people?
This guy needs to go to jail. This is at least aggravated assault if not attempted murder.
This sort of behavior and just the fact that I'm not horribly interested in sports in the first place makes me want to avoid sports stadiums.
I feel like throwing someone down the steps is attempted murder. Edit: I feel like pushing someone down the stairs should be attempted first degree manslaughter. Smh
"Go to a Bills game (closest team)", they say, "it's a lot of fun".
Somehow, with the plethora of drunken assholes getting into fights in the stands that I've seen posted, I'm guessing *fun" means something different to these people.
Throughout all my years of going to games a fight has never happened in my general vicinity (though maybe one or two within view across the way). Even at a rivals stadium there may be some friendly bickering but it always dives into a āso you guys in town? How you liking the city? Gotta try (restaurant) while youāre hereā small talk.
Those interactions donāt exactly get YouTube clicks though.
Not a lawyer, but I have to believe that that man should be charged with attempted murder. I can think of no other way to describe purposefully throwing someone down a flight of stairs.
Thatās F-ing crazy. Seriously whatās wrong with people. How far down was her going to push that guy. Not just that but on cement and metal stairs. Over a game? That they arenāt even actually a part of? I thought people were better than that. That guys lucky he was able to get up and go back up the stairs. If he would have landed wrong and broke his neck we would be seeing a murder trial. Good job dumb @$$.
two morons fighting over which team of millionaires owned by billionaires is better -- great reason to possibly kill another person and also ruin your own life
and for the people in the stands who are cheering this on and screaming "beat his ass!" yall should be ashamed of yourselves and develop an understanding of how karma works -- cause it is sure to pay you a visit eventually
He could have broken his neck or his back; he could have died and ppl in the comment section are clowning him for being an obese azzhole. So that makes it ok to attempt to unalive someone????
That guy spent a lot of time and effort trying to throw a person down concrete steps. He had time to think. It took several yanks for him to get his pants down.
Dude is a bully and I hope to fuck that the guy he injured and pantsed sues him.
Jesus. The look on the guy who got tossedās face when he looks around and just sees people filming. So heartbreaking. We can be better to each other. We can do better.
My old friend got assaulted in Denver stadium because he was wearing the opposing teams jersey. Put in a coma for 2 months and there were no cameras to capture the assault. To hell with these stupid fans that think it's okay to get violent at a sport event.
That looks like a great way to accidently murder someone.
Seriously. This is so fucking stupid.
He literally threw someone down a flight of stairs. Is he in jail for attempting murder?
A flight of ICY, CONCRETE AND METAL stairs.
Yeah, when he started to pull his pants down it almost seemed like he had a moment of clarity but NOPE proceeds to fling him down concrete stairs.
Pulling his pants down was a douche move.
Better that than trying to kill him but he did both š¤·
100% agree I just thought that he decided to do that instead of flinging him down the stairs
People have gone to jail for less. How many stories are out there of a guy punching someone in the face, who cracks their head on the sidewalk and dies, and a murder charge is caught. Ill answer for you. Quite a few. This isnt any different.
Wow. I just posted in response to another comment about my friend killing someone who hit a curb with his head during argument. My friend is in prison for murder.
Yoooo same! I went to high school with a kid who got in a fight with an older dude outside a bar. Dude got knocked out, hit his head on a curb, had an aneurysm and died. Highschooler got charged with murder and went to prison.
My uncle died this way. He was pushed from behind, hit his head and died.
A kid pushed me in the back at a house party one night as I was going down the basement stairs. I planted both arms as far out to my side and got purchase against the walls and stopped myself. I had not looked at or even said a word to this kid all night. Mostly just chatting with friends around the house here and there. He was lucky I didn't return the favor. Ended up talking to him for a long time, he was really sorry. He was crying he was so sorry. He was telling me he was just insecure and I was the biggest guy there and he was the smallest. Could have been very different life paths because someone lacked confidence. I hope that was a wakeup call for him. I didn't really do parties after that.
Crazy story and thanks for sharing. Wish people treated each other better. Glad you ended up ok and way to handle it all.
Thereās one of you in most accidental murder threads. Itās very common. I took steps to mitigate this by getting rid of all them And Iām still alive.
I got into a argument with a stranger the other day, I didn't want a fight, but I also shouldn't have answered his insults with worst insults, I ended being punched in the face, but I ended to choose not to retaliate for that exact reason, I'm two meters tall, and the last time I was in a figh (it was in eight grade), I know if I start to fight I won't be able to control my anger, so in fear of being arest for fighting in public at beast, or at worst, for the result of the fight, I did nothing and the guy just walked away, later (next weak) he found me in the metro and apologised, explaining that he wasn't himself, he was having a really bad day, and it just happend, and I also apologised to him
I've seen Con-Air.
lol, you know he isn't.
Fuck all these people cheering on violence based on sports teams as well.
This
I wouldnāt call that an accident. He knew what he was doing when he did it.
Accidentally? Come on man you only push someone backwards down the stairs for one reason
That guy put a ton of effort into throwing him down the steps, there was no accident.
If the intent was to scare him when throwing him down, and he dies instead, the addition of "accidently" would be applicable. The act itself is not the accident, but the unintended outcome would be.
Intent matters, and also whether something is **foreseeable**. Is it foreseeable that pushing someone backwards down a huge flight of concrete stairs could lead to death? Of course. Here's a case in South Africa that lead to attempted murder charges https://au.news.yahoo.com/attempted-murder-charge-after-airbnb-guest-thrown-down-stairs-36335551.html
I was on a jury for a murder trial about 20 years ago. Texas. The judge's instructions were if we found that the accused acted in a manner that they knew **or should have known** could cause serious injury or death, then we were directed to find them guilty. And we did.
If you hit a motorcycle with your car during a fit of road rage, and they die, is it accidental? I don't feel like the outcome of doing something deliberately dangerous to someone should count as an accident. Personally at least. I think every state can handle this differently.
Not so accidental this was pretty deliberate. Shoot after a few beers those stairs terrify me just walking down them
They terrify me completely sober. I slipped off a stair @ Arrowhead (nosebleed seats) & saw my life flash before my eyes. No alcohol involved.
I thought the guy fell on his own, and I was going to comment, that I'm terrified of that for myself. I'm smaller, but just a lot clumsy and sometimes those stairs are so steep. I have the video paused because I'm not sure I want to watch the dark haired guy throw him down. I can't watch this sort of stuff. Eta: fixed mobile typos
This looks like pretty intentional attempted murder to me
Yeah exactly, like what outcome could that man have expected other than crippling the guy?!
Literally pulls the guy's pants down first to make absolutely certain regaining his footing is impossible
Yeah. That man's a dumbass. It looks like he started the physical altercation as well (unless there's more to the video).
I don't know about accidentally, bro literally the bigbro down the stairs.
Isn't pushing someone down the stairs like half the murders on British cop shows?
Instigators in the crowd egging people on when they have no skin in the game.
Nobody, except the players, have any real skin in the game. Any fan who is that emotionally attached to a game they watch, probably has bigger issues they should focus on.
 Are you saying I donāt love my team *enough*?
go state bruh
State sucks, go Tech!
South Hampton Institute of Technology Sandwiches all the way!
I really wanted to go there, and the website told me I was accepted, but when I showed up the guy who answered the door told me I must be looking for the school down the road... weird vibes. Cool ass skate ramp out back though
That's a great team name, but my all-time favorite is the original name for the Arizona State Sun Devils. Back when the school first started, it was called the Normal School of Arizona, which is what teacher's colleges used to be called. Their team name was "The Normals". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1899\_Normal\_School\_of\_Arizona\_Normals\_football\_team
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Tech sucks, go homeless man behind a gas station
Homeless man behind a gas station sucks (ā Ā Ķ”ā Ā°ā Ā Ķā Źā Ā Ķ”ā Ā°ā )
For an extra $20 heāll go all the way.
Yeah no taxes and if you get caught stealing food you get free rent
Like it or not, sports are sanctioned tribalism. Even plenty of seemingly normal people in every other aspect of life can go nuts over sports. Just look at what happens in a country after the world cup. Or any time Philly wins something. That's not just weirdos. Sports speak to a primal aspect of humanity.
How much of it is people being tribal about their team and how much is just people seeing a socially acceptable way to act like the animals they are.
Yeah, I used to be like that when I was younger and emotionally immature. Then I had an epiphany and realized that I am way too emotionally invested in something that I have no control over. It's been amazing watching sports ever since. I still have my teams but I don't get angry or sad or anything anymore when they lose. It's just a stupid fucking game. It's hard to not laugh at people who wrap their entire identities up in a sports team
For whatever reason, sports serve as a proxy for other, larger grievances - often geographic, sometimes culture, can be political. Not to excuse poor fan behavior, just to say itās not always as simple as the laundry the teams are wearing.
Us vs them... basic Jungian shadow shit.
It is actually. The idiots taking the "laundry the teams are wearing" more seriously than they should don't get the benefit of us rationalizing them as anything but emotional at best and irrational at worst. Stop coddling idiots. Tribalism is not an excuse. An explanation maybe, but no excuse. You saying "it isn't as simple" IS excusing them. You can add factors like rivalries etc, but not whitewash their irrational behavior through circumstance. They are additions, not Nuance.
They literally said itās not an excuse. The fact that domestic violence rates go up so consistently after soccer matches in the UK that they make PSAs about it should tell you that people sublimate other issues into their investment in sports. Thatās not whitewashing, itās behavioral observation. People donāt always compartmentalize well and they have unhealthy and unreasonable reactions to things that would be innocuous and fun for someone else.
I dunno... I saw alot of skin... Like alot...
Fun fact: Your average American has enough skin to cover at least two sets of couches!
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Thereās a video of him standing up piss drunk instigating people all game. This is just bound to happen if you act like an animal in front of a crowd of people.
Canāt confirm, but it was alleged he also spit on someone, maybe the guy who eventually sent him tumbling down. All the kings horses and men werenāt needed for the recovery, though.
"It's over, Humpty! I have the high ground!"
*slow clap*
"You underestimate my blubber."
These videos need that context edited in but still, he could have died.
Could've died and could've taken an innocent bystander or two with him. Regardless of his size, an uncontrolled fall down what's essentially a long staircase could be devastating for him or anyone who happened to be in the aisle.
Youāre right and I feel bad for him. But causes have effects and getting plastered and shouting at people 90% of the time will end up in a really terrible situation like this. Idk what to say, real life is usually like this.
I donāt think there is room for any more skin in this game. Thereās so much already
I just saw way too much, honestly.
So.... reddit.
I like how you said "egging" and the first thing I though of after watching this video was Humpty Dumpty.
Ćf not for all those steps the guy would be really hurt.
Plus his rotund figure probably helped him in this situation
A fit gentleman would have hit bone and vitals on the corner of the steps but not supertubby plenty of cushion.
His body mass is also significantly higher than a fit person's. All that weight can lead to significantly worse outcomes in a fall. It really comes down to how they land.
āThe bigger they are, the harder they fallā
I always thought it was, "The bigger they are, the harder I am".
Wow, you should totally write that down!
Oh he was really hurt. Could you imagine the bruises the next day. He was lucky he was alive.
Going up hurt him more then going down
Bruh he already got violated more than enough todayš
Fuck man. Coffee thru your nose fucking hurts
Nobody react ???
Sports fans are especially shit when they have that crowd mentality behind them
Honestly if a fight started in my section at a game I would just walk away. How many times have you seen somebody go in to help or break things up and get KOd? I'm not risking a broken jaw or worse because some idiots want to fight over their sports team.
Yeah, donāt know them donāt really care enough. Might leave and get security, but that would be it.
Word.
i mean they are there to watch a sport, the boxing is the minigame during the interval
I think after he flinched the push was pretty equal or common response. But the guy kept with it until he actually fell so the push became more of a slow motion tackle/throw? if he had just done a quick little boop push *then* the stair roll started Iād be like ahhh shit the dude didnāt even mean all that. But no heās like grabbing his taint and obviously trying really hard to get him to fall- thatās too far even if the fatty started it. I can understand a push back but he did much more than a shoulder tap
Yeah that was really gross. People are way too happy to get their little fight fetish on so they can feel like a big man. It's fuckin pathetic and he's lucky he didn't break that guy's neck or hurt anyone else on the sidelines.
Minding their own damn business
I'm so sick of these. The "competition" is supposed to be fun jabs at one another - not divisive hatred
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It's their identity.
This is what happens when people drink
I went to one NFL game when I moved to San Diegoā¦never again. A bunch of drunk man-children dressed in tube socks, jorts below the knee, and Chargers jerseys, all getting drunk and trying to start fights with the other fans.
If someone takes a game that they'll literally never play this seriously then they're a joke of a human.
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If thatās soldier field, those steps are super steep in the upper level too. Walking down them is kinda spooky.
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This is actually the Bears vs Eagles game. There just happened to be a person in Green Bay gear. Either way, still no reason for violence. There should have been an assault charge.
And a Bear's scarf, an odd combo
Packers sweatshirt, Bears scarf, and Eagles hat
The man is keeping his options open
WEāRE GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS *AND* GETTING A GOOD DRAFT PICK!!!
The Eagles actually are though
Browns underwear after that fall.
He's wearing a Bears scarf, Packers jacket, and Eagles beanie. Maybe he fell into a pile of NFL merch beforehand?
It looked like 11 steps.
It looked like a grown man pulled another manās pants down and shoved him down the stairs to me.
This was straight out of a WWF match. Just like when the bad guy wrestler goes to pin the good guy and then grabs his tights and pulls them down for extra leverage as the ref counts to three.
You may be running into the issue that I am....risk adverse adulthood. All I could think is if I were the guy at the top of those stairs.....I would be REALLY hoping he stopped rolling and wasn't very very hurt. You hear all those scary stories about 1 punch deaths from street fights and this looks like it easily could have been a manslaughter charge caught on video by at least tens of people.
Looks like an attempted murder charge to me.
Hi. Juris Doctor here who studied a lot of negligent criminal charges in his day. You are correct that if there was some type of injury here and even if argued under the right circumstances (clearly stairs in the winter are going to be extra icy) then this is for sure a potential second degree/negligent murder that could likely be talked down to some involuntary manslaughter.
He could have also gave him a permanent spinal injury.. I bet someone alive, in a wheelchair, sitting in a courtroom would get a lot of sympathy from a jury.
I don't know if you could argue negligence since he intentionally threw him down the stairs, with malice.
It would be involuntary manslaughter. He didn't mean to kill him, but his actions were intended to inflict harm without proper regard for potential consequences.
With a hint of sodomy.
Head first, too. That was really malicious.
It's shameful that nobody even checked if the dude was okay.
I feel bad for the guy. His naked ass will stay on the internet for decades. Edit: I saw another video on Tik Tok. The heavy guy was drunk and he was looking for altercation.
If he's smart he'll sue for sexual assault for exposing him against his will and for the assault itself
Yup, this is easily a sexual offense (changed to reflect what it could be based under) charge, not to mention if there were any kids nearby that could've been exposed to his private areas also catching another charge. Hed actually even lose in court even if it was brought up that big boy may have started it due to his overall response. Guy should be banned from all stadiums as he is clearly a liability for any places like this due to his anger. I get some people think you couldn't push the issue for a sexual assault charge. So let me ask you this, what if this was the same situation, but instead of the fat guy, we replace it with a woman? You are 100% catching a sexual assault charge if you de-pants a woman in public. There should be no difference for a man. We can argue all day that he could hardly keep them up prior to the scuffle. You could argue he reached back there to get a better grip on him to throw him, but that hardly makes the situation better and you could probably convince a jury or judge that he reached back there with the intent to drop his pants further so he couldn't use his legs when he was shoved. Regardless, the skinny dude is in way more trouble despite who started it. This assumes that charges were even brought against them as I haven't seen anything and this was on the 4th.
"Skinny dude"
He popped up fast enough.
Adrenaline will do that to you.
That is a lawsuit. Probably criminal.
I woulda stayed in the ground and played dead scare the f outta the guy
Twitch, then hold breath until everyone in the crowd starts to shit their pants.
Then when the medics have you on a stretcher, you sit straight up and yell "Psych!!!!"
Right? Big guy shouldn't have been getting in his face, it was clear he wouldn't win that...but that looks like attempted murder to me
Yeah, a case could be made for attempted murder. Shoving someone down a staircase like 100 feet long could easily kill a person. Buddy didn't fall the whole way down, sure. But there is no way the other fella could have known how far buddy would fall.
Pretty sure thats aggravated assault. I think you have to intend to murder someone and fail at it for that charge to stick.
The only thing that could make this worse is someone recording it and putting it on the internet.
From two different angles
No the lower angle was definitely the worst
What the fuck is wrong with people? That guy could have seriously been hurt. Is this what team loyalty does to your brain? Jesus
Right here with you!!! What is so great about hitting each other? And why are people cheering this on? Edit: wow didnāt expect such a response. That said I want to highlight that people donāt get how dangerous a stupid fight like that one is. This isnāt MMA or Boxing where two trained professionals get it on with a referee and rules. That is Entertainment. This is Joe and Dan going at it for no good reason and the outcome can be tragic. A good friend of mine is a brain surgeon and he hates the Fourth of July because people push each other one falls backwards fractures his skull and loses the ability to walkā¦. Why? Because Joe inadvertently cut in front of Dan. Joe can no longer walk and Dan is in jail. Yay fighting!
And I noticed he intentionally pulled the guys pants down for added effect
Which hopefully will land him on a registry, because itās sexual assault and sexual battery
I get the heat of the moment, and fighting is something fun to watch But throwing someone off a flight of stairs is never OK
Iām going to have to disagree that fighting is āfunā to watch. The one time I saw a legit fight I almost puked. The sound of someone fists crushing someoneās face is not something I want to remember or ever see again
The only fight that I remember witnessing was between two ladies in the parking lot of Walmart. I couldn't exactly leave since I was working there at the time and my job was pushing carts so I had to stay outside. The security vehicle pulled up and the security guard tried to intervene. I'll never forget the sound it made when one of them then proceeded to slam the other girl's head into the car door.
Booze, most this shit never goes down if you took alcohol outta the mix
Well that escalated quickly to almost murder
Well, technically I guess it *de*escalated pretty quickly towards the end.
Omgā¦that poor guy could have broken his neck. š³
Why the hell are people CHEERING.
Because some people are animals
Well at least now he can sue for sexual assault. Exposing someone against their will... That's definitely a charge not to mention the assault by purposely pulling him backwards so he fell down the stairs. I would've stayed down and played dead until the cops came then he might've got attempted murder once they seen the video
 Green Bay fan should have known.
He was wearing an eagles hat, bears scarf, and Packers sweater. I think he might just be crazy
Over on r/CHIBears, OP states the big guy is indeed a Packers fan, and bought a Philly hat just to show his hatred for the Bears. He was wearing a Chicago scarf because one of his friends lent it to him during the game. If I remember correctly, big guy was talking a lot of shit and the people around him were getting pretty sick of it. Slim walks up and tells him there's kids around, and big guy basically told him to stfu. Then it got heated and that's more or less when the video started.
Came here to make the same comment. 
Eagles beanie, Bears scarf, and a Packers hoodie. What even is this guy?
The most undecided- indestructible orb of anger the world has ever seen.
That's aggravated assault
How to accidentally catch a manslaughter charge, an instructional video.
Look, I know a lot of y'all are making fun of the Packers fan and that's on y'all... Regardless of his political affiliation/ sports team/ physical appearance, it's NOT OK to do what was done to him. Short of the dude pulling a firearm or a knife, that was absolutely uncalled for.
I hope there are charges. That was outrageous.
What is wrong with people? This guy needs to go to jail. This is at least aggravated assault if not attempted murder. This sort of behavior and just the fact that I'm not horribly interested in sports in the first place makes me want to avoid sports stadiums.
I hope that a hole was arrested. No amount of bickering should result in that action, it really could have been much worse
You can say asshole on reddit
High ground always wins in stadium fights.
I hate humans.
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I feel like throwing someone down the steps is attempted murder. Edit: I feel like pushing someone down the stairs should be attempted first degree manslaughter. Smh
Sports fans are fuckin weird. Imagine throwing hands with a stranger over athletic men who have no idea who you are.
"Go to a Bills game (closest team)", they say, "it's a lot of fun". Somehow, with the plethora of drunken assholes getting into fights in the stands that I've seen posted, I'm guessing *fun" means something different to these people.
Throughout all my years of going to games a fight has never happened in my general vicinity (though maybe one or two within view across the way). Even at a rivals stadium there may be some friendly bickering but it always dives into a āso you guys in town? How you liking the city? Gotta try (restaurant) while youāre hereā small talk. Those interactions donāt exactly get YouTube clicks though.
So many scum humans in one section
Goddammit r/angryupvote
Why? What caused this and why are people cheering?
Ahhhh, Americaās underclass in action.
Thankfully, his perfectly circular shape allowed him to glide very gently down the stairs without any injury. This is truly, the peak male body.
I promise you he's hurt. Mf is going to be feeling a few bruises for a few days. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
He walks it off as well. What a guy. Probably should get it checked tho
Pretty smart, throw a guy down stairs on camera in a large crowdā¦ hopefully that guy has received the appropriate punishment.
That guy should be arrested.
Not a lawyer, but I have to believe that that man should be charged with attempted murder. I can think of no other way to describe purposefully throwing someone down a flight of stairs.
Thatās F-ing crazy. Seriously whatās wrong with people. How far down was her going to push that guy. Not just that but on cement and metal stairs. Over a game? That they arenāt even actually a part of? I thought people were better than that. That guys lucky he was able to get up and go back up the stairs. If he would have landed wrong and broke his neck we would be seeing a murder trial. Good job dumb @$$.
two morons fighting over which team of millionaires owned by billionaires is better -- great reason to possibly kill another person and also ruin your own life and for the people in the stands who are cheering this on and screaming "beat his ass!" yall should be ashamed of yourselves and develop an understanding of how karma works -- cause it is sure to pay you a visit eventually
The Packers don't have an owner.
Some fucked up human beings we have in this planet. Specially the ones just watching and laughing about it
He could have broken his neck or his back; he could have died and ppl in the comment section are clowning him for being an obese azzhole. So that makes it ok to attempt to unalive someone????
Yeah he could have broke his neck or back easily. Being 400 pounds and a quadriplegic would be horrible.
āSports teach discipline, respect, and inclusion, and bring people together!ā
Neither of these 2 guys look like they have spent much time playing sports.
I hate seeing shit like this. People are horrible. The crowd sees it as entertainment.
Hopes he press charges on him
I love Reddit. Guy almost gets seriously injured. Here comes rolling fat people gifs. Later that day: Updoots some Body positivity post.
That guy spent a lot of time and effort trying to throw a person down concrete steps. He had time to think. It took several yanks for him to get his pants down. Dude is a bully and I hope to fuck that the guy he injured and pantsed sues him.
So...this attempted murder, right? He was purposely trying to throw that guy down those concrete stairs.
Jesus. The look on the guy who got tossedās face when he looks around and just sees people filming. So heartbreaking. We can be better to each other. We can do better.
I was certain he was gonna go full Nordberg
Iām so mad his fucking face isnāt visible. I will be looking for updates on this piece of shit
Throwing down stairs (concrete stairs) is attempted murder. It might have been advisable to stay on the ground and call police and an ambulance.
My old friend got assaulted in Denver stadium because he was wearing the opposing teams jersey. Put in a coma for 2 months and there were no cameras to capture the assault. To hell with these stupid fans that think it's okay to get violent at a sport event.