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Prudent-Matter6553

The Doors post Jim Morrison was insane


Mineingmo15

Only post Jim album worth listening to is the one where it's just the band playing to old recordings of Jim reading his poems.


sister_sister_

100%. An American prayer is a nice homage to Morrison


P1SSY3LL0W

I didn't even know they made more stuff after Morrison died


zero_eternal

2 albums. One called "Other Voices" and another I think was called "Full Circle"?


Aces-Kings-Queens

I kind of like the song Verdillac off Full Circle but yeah it’s mostly pretty awful lol. Ray Manzerick was an awesome keys player but not exactly a great singer. And The Mosquito is a very strange and cringey “song”.


TyeneSandSnake

I have those two albums and have never been able to finish either one despite my best efforts.


DtheAussieBoye

I will never get over how the band called the first post-Jim album "Other Voices". Always felt really tasteless.


Comadon-C

Despite the sad circumstances, Linkin Park for sure


WarmestGatorade

I was actually kind of surprised to learn that basically all of Linkin Park's albums hover around 60/100 on Metacritic. I'm no LP fan, but Hybrid Theory and Meteora are definitely better than a lot of the junk that gets around 70/100.


shiba-on-parade

it was music that was routinely dunked on when it came out. linkin park were a punch line joke for people making fun of anime music videos even before youtube existed.


satanic_jesus

Yeah it absolutely was, not sure why everyone is denying it. Especially fans of metal and that kinda stuff did not look kindly on it


shiba-on-parade

I definitely remember my metalhead friends definitely not liking them... or any other nu-metal group from that same period for that matter... but i feel like the punk and indie/alt kids also hated them lol


scottyd035ntknow

Hey man, Z Fighters vs Broly set to In The End was fucking epic in 2003.


altsam19

Two rats fighting for a pizza slice in a NY subway goes hard with LP


-Thick_Solid_Tight-

Yeah there are definitely some rose colored glasses/younger fans finding about them a decade+ after their debut. At the time they were the poster boys along with Papa Roach for shitty whiny nu rap metal. Crawling in my veins these wounds they will not heal was a 00's meme


UberGoth91

Late 90s/early 00s butt rock hardos HATED Linkin Park and most of those second wave of nu-metal bands with more hip hop/electronic elements. If you have any whiny old Deftones fans in your life you can still get their blood pressure worked up (probably dangerous at this stage in their lives) by saying that the kids today still love old Linkin Park and don’t give a shit about White Pony.


jsimps741

I mean i like Linkin Park but this just ain’t true. Deftones is everywhere on TikTok and pretty known across college ages. but for some reason it’s more their later shit like Cherry Waves and Rosemary not so much White Pony lol


RemarkableMeaning533

You gotta take those critics with a grain of salt, they often praise boring albums we would never listen to and when there are bad albums they have to be careful not to give too bad of a review and upset the labels


Universe_Nut

I think critiquing popular music is also kinda hard. Like reviewing a block buster movie. If you review something from the perspective of being deep in the medium, it's easier to reward something challenging, experimental, or genre defying because it's fresh, new and exciting for the conversation of the art. But if you want to recommend music to casual listeners, I'd think you would be listening for and rewarding stuff that polishes or improves on what came before without changing too much to subvert the expectation of the sound. What's good in social settings, what makes for a nice drive to work, that sort of shit. The two aren't mutually exclusive, but I do think it's a small overlap and most reviewers tend to pick a lane.


WholesomeFartEnjoyer

LP are just the type of music that music critics who are often pretentious snobs hate, A Thousand Suns is a brilliant album that deserves more than a 60


Klausfunhauserss

And LP fans can pretentious snobs too.


elsantioof07

Linkin Park's fanbase is one of the least pretentious fanbases out there


Forbidden_Scorcery

In what way are LP fans pretentious? They’re genuinely one of the nicer fanbases I’ve interacted with.


OrthodoxJedi

I see you took that personal. 😂


Unlucky-Duck

When Pitchfork reviewed Jet's album and gave 0/10 and posted a video of a monkey pissing in his mouth I have really stopped paying attention to reviews and giving them any significance.  https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/9464-shine-on/


FelixThunderbolt

But that was their best review


ratta_tat1

GET BORN IS A 3.7?? WIld.


-an-eternal-hum-

Brilliant


WesTheFitting

=[


solace1234

Inb4 Brockhampton fan says TM


Placematter

Well it is true and I’m sure the band would even agree


Jiggha_Remastered

The family is my fav brockhampton album. TM is my least fav


throwaway1152000

The Family is elite


humbleprobe

got introduced to brockhampton from the family but i wish i was there for stuff like the saturation trilogy and iridescence


nicotinequitterhelp

Saturation trilogy was such a special time, I was a college freshman so it’s really nostalgic for me


hashrosinkitten

God, I remember seeing the first video from that trilogy posted with like under 1k views. Such a unique moment


BrandoNelly

I just can’t accept The Family as a Brockhampton album. It really just feels like a Kevin Abstract album.


brigister

TM is garbagio and that's ok to admit


thelryan

They’re right too. The leaked puppy demo album has more replay value than their closing album


Copito_Kerry

If that’s Muse’s last album, it’s arguably their worst album.


karmacop97

They’re released their worst album yet like 4 times in a row lmao (maybe drones > t2l idk)


elsantioof07

Even though it hasn't aged the best and definitely is a product of its time, 2nd Law is a really fun album with a handful of great songs. Their other albums after it though...


Cubbll17

I used to love muse when younger and stopped when resistance came out cause it wasn't for me. Went back recently to try listen to all their stuff and Jesus Christ the resistance is a brilliant album compared to everything after it.


freefallfreya

I felt the same way about The Resistance at the time. Little did we know how bad of a skid they'd just entered.


Cubbll17

I saw them at festival in 2010, one of the best shows I've ever seen and played citizen erased. Who knew it would get so bad?


[deleted]

Muse is a fucking phenomenal love band. I saw them on their Black Holes and Revelations tour and it was the best concert I’ve ever seen. Shame they’ve gotten so fucking bad.


proculman

At least Muse trying dupstep is fun-bad, whereas Drones just bores me. Also Animals is a top 5 Muse song. Simulation Theory isn't the worst, but the cringe elements that'll eventually make Will of the People a straight dumpsterfire of an album are slowly revealing themselves. I'd say 2nd Law > Drones > Sim. Theory >>> WotP


karmacop97

Yeah I think you’re right. I’d say some T2L singles carry (animals, explorers, panic station, maybe the stuff at the end) and then there’s some garbage, whereas drones is consistently meh (reapers is good though)


alexis_1031

WE ARE FUCKED


tws1039

Nah son “WE ARE FUCKING FUCKED”


head_of_mop

Yeah, it would be sad, but MAN. That record kinda turned me off Muse altogether, even their good stuff.


CompetitionNarrow898

Idlewild isn’t bad but definitely OutKast’s worst


mrbananagrabber1

There are some really great songs on there but yeah no comparison overall to their other albums


Richie_Zeppelin

Never understood if that was a proper album of there’s or a soundtrack. Like that circus album they had.


[deleted]

Speaks to how good the rest of their discography is.


dr_franck

[Check out the “Trainwreckords” series by YouTuber Todd in the Shadows where he goes over albums so bad that they ended careers](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLznZMqdhi_RVHtZYrMeoi3Fjg9VNhPAX&si=QdGtsR_lA509A3Xd) He deep dives on Cut the Crap and Mardi Gras actually! Some other notable videos include The Funky Headhunter - MC Hammer Be Here Now - Oasis 0304 - Jewel Funstyle - Liz Phair


Redwing5002

Oh, I know and love Todd's videos. I've been aware of him longer than Fantano actually. I specified bad albums that truly ended a band's career. Because some videos, like St. Anger by Metallica, feature artists who merely had a low point but are still going strong.


dr_franck

Oh, you’re also right for sure. Like, I don’t think Madonna, The Carpenters or even Liz Phair were ruined by one album, it seemed like just a result of a more natural, gradual decline of an artist. For someone not covered by Trainwreckords, I agree with that commenter who said Chance the Rapper. Maybe also Calvin Harris with that 2nd Funk Wav album.


Fleetwood-matt

Yeah for Madonna she immediately followed up her trainwrecord with an absolute career highlight so it definitely didn’t end her career


No_City_1731

To be fair Be Here Now is Oasis’s third album (and probably not their worst). Not sure if what you’re saying here is what OP is saying - ie a band signing off with their worst album.


BlackIsTheSoul

The Katy Perry Witness episode was amazing


Ok-Swan1152

Oasis had more than more album after Be Here Now so no, not career-ending


J_House1999

Todd is one of the best YouTubers ever. His videos are very re-watchable and always high quality. He’s perfected the way he writes and edits his videos so they’re always entertaining to watch / listen to. And he’s been doing it consistently for years. I’ve learned so much about recent music history from Todd and every time I see he’s uploaded I watch it immediately because I know it’s gonna be a banger video.


aaaaaaaaaaaaah_

One of my favorite series on YouTube ever. One hit wonderland is also hilarious.


itsableeder

Be Here Now is neither Oasis' last album nor their worst. Their worst is Heathen Chemistry, by far.


Weird_Leech238

It's close between those middle three imo. Though tbf they're all pretty bad after morning glory


Punished__Allegri

Funstyle is amazing


ForestMacQuarrie

ween - la cucaracha not a completely terrible album but certainly their worst


the_popes_dick

Yet when you say this on r/ween, you're met with dogpiling of "LA CUC IS JUST AS GOOD I DONT GET THE HATE ITS STILL BROWN"


pissshitfuckcuntcock

It’s a shame, because the songs on that album played live are on a different level to their recorded versions.


_siamesedream_

My thoughts exactly. I wasn’t much of a fan of the studio versions of the songs, but once I heard songs like Learnin’ to Love live, completely changed my perspective, such bangers


pissshitfuckcuntcock

Yep. Woman and Man too. A bit of a drudge to get through on the LP but live it’s a fucking behemoth.


NewportStork

Absolutely


broomstickarms

Came here to say this. Not bad at all, it has great songs. But it’s their worst


jorbolade

Klaxons the fuck was that last album.


lilyrosecooper

the second album was pretty doggers too though tbf after their debut they had one big party that lasted from 2007-2009, by the time they sobered up they didn’t really know what they were about and the industry as a whole had moved on it’s a shame because that first album is quite unique and they had some interesting themes, aesthetically too


shoelace_boy

Ah yes, the stone roses trajectory


personpilot

God I love the debut so much and yeah I did not really enjoy even their 2nd lp at all either. It’s just too bad all the juice was squeezed on the first pull.


omgalltimelow

Listening to their debut as I read this comment, 2000s indie at it’s absolute best


jelloandjuggernauts

Talking Heads


jm17lfc

Though Nothing But Flowers is amazing, it’s hard to disagree.


rarselfaire2023

As much as I like that album I'd have to agree


kingofrod83

Naked is better than true stories and little creatures though. I love that album


jelloandjuggernauts

Broooo Little Creatures fuckin SLAPS


seiff4242

True Stories is the worst Heads album


milesdaguy

Panic at the effin disco for sure. Went out with a whimper but the argument could be made that the last two albums don’t even count as panic albums


altsam19

None of the albums except the first two count as a band album, it's just Brendon! And His Ego


meteor-cemetery

I won’t listen to that album ever again, the strain he puts on his voice is excruciating to hear.


Cheeselad2401

i’m quite annoyed by that whole thing, i’ve been listening to panic since i was like 6 or 7.


seeyalateradios

EXACTLY


Stoneador

I was a pretty big fan of them a few years back. I think I listened to the last album soon after it came out, got halfway through it, and then just never thought about it again until now.


AmericanNimrod49

I couldn't even finish that album.


demerchmichael

I’ll fight to the day I die Pray for the wicked was a fine album, is it the best panic album? Absolutely not, it’s probably in 6th place if you were to rank the 7 studio albums. I think it’s fun and different to what the albums were, it has an identifiable theme and the some of the songs still sit in my rotation to this day. Viva on the other hand…


SaulTNNutz

Soundgarden's last album was pretty forgettable. Audioslave's final album was also their worst. 


Mendoza8914

I revisit Soundgarden’s King Animal a lot more than Ultramega OK, personally. Ultramega was more of a concept album with an interesting sound but not a lot of actual songs.


Final_Ad1531

Revelations was their weakest but it was still an amazing album


meicoco

In through the out door - Led Zeppelin


KeaneLikesMusic

I still love ITtOD though, so many good tracks on it for me


stargazerinc

It has Fool In The Rain and All My Love on it, it's not their worst. Presence is worse


c4gam1ng

Presence has Achilles’ Last Stand though


obelix284

All My Love is a banger.


ekb2023

I think Presence is kinda worse.


MFMDP4EVA

I’m inclined to agree. I’ve listened to ITTOD way more than Presence in my life.


FriedCammalleri23

Achilles Last Stand alone makes it better IMO


SerbianSlayer

I listened to Zeppelin so much as a teenager that my brain got warped to the point where I think In Through the Out Door and Presence are better than II and IV because those have so many of the overplayed hits


YaassthonyQueentano

My Chemical Romance - Danger Days Panic at the Disco - Viva Las Vengeance


carpetedfloor

Danger Days has an interesting concept but it is so cringe in execution that I can’t listen to it.


YaassthonyQueentano

It sounds so dated too…


No-Average-1416

Danger Days has the worst production I've ever heard and almost the entire record is reworked songs they previously scrapped, concept is very loose, band was unhappy


yaboiGunit

SING is one of the worst songs I’ve ever heard in my life


RayPadonkey

There's so many cringe inducing choruses on the album


YaassthonyQueentano

Finally someone who gets it. This album was a complete Hail Mary to try and keep the band members heads above water


No-Average-1416

They should've just finished Conventional Weapons and called it a day, those songs have way better production and energy


ReasonableMan97

Boy Division is one of their best songs


Rayvaxl117

Viva Las Vengeance is not a good album at all, but it's easily better than pftw imo


fivedollarbiggiebag

I agree


milesdaguy

Danger days is goated I will not stand for this. However, VLV is correct.


devils__haircut

agree danger days sucks ass but aren't they releasing a new album sometime soonish? plus that foundations song not long ago was great


YaassthonyQueentano

Foundations was awesome, they toured 2 years ago but I haven’t heard about a new album, fingers crossed tho!


protagonistsyndrome

Don't get the hate for danger days. That's my fave mcr record


RayPadonkey

As someone who thinks it's their worst, I put it down to 2 things. My tastes are different and it's their album with the least post-hardcore influences. It has what feels like a lot of attempts at different styles and none of them really stick for me. It sounds the most radio friendly (not that that's an inherently wrong thing, but SING, Scarecrow, and Summertime sounds like they were cynically written for radio play. Still though, Bulletproof Heart is a top 10 MCR song, even if I think it sounds similar to Famous Last Words. It's a product of its time in retrospect. I feel like it has aged quite poorly, and that is in massive part because of the sound they popularised on Black Parade. If it released sooner than 4 years after Black Parade I might feel differently.


noahnieder

Weezer every Weezer album. (This coming from a Weezer fan)


_nathan67

Weezer has fans?


noahnieder

Sigh yes


toxicity9095

Ok human was great


Yelu-Chucai

Their third best album


noahnieder

No that would probably be the White album.


The_Mighty_Boo

Kinda based


Iwasha

Is there like a legit reason why Weezer went from one of the best power pop/rock bands to a mediocre one? Did they not have the drive or what


noahnieder

I mean don't get me wrong they had some pretty good albums after Pinkerton. It's just they have inconsistent quality. The white album is still great


Aces-Kings-Queens

Everything Must Go by Steely Dan for sure. Primus’ last full length album to date (Desaturating Seven) is pretty lame by their standards as well.


MisterAss

Desaturating Seven is a better way to end things than the Wonka record.


Newone1255

No way that’s the last Primus album and isn’t this about bands whose career is over? Primus is touring hard this year


RemarkableMeaning533

Isn’t that the one they won a grammy for? Lol


Aces-Kings-Queens

Nah that was Two Against Nature, the album before. Pretty silly for that to win over it’s competition even though I love Steely Dan lmao.


Newone1255

That was a sick Primus tour tho and you can argue that Primus is playing better than ever currently, their last tour when they played that rush album was the best of the 10+ Primus shows I’ve seen.


Legitimate_Tap_9852

Drake cuz every album gets worse or at least trends towards it, he’s gonna drop some shit when he’s 60 that’s a new level of boring (trust me I am from the future)


Legitimate_Tap_9852

The late 2020s will see the rise of hyper pop trends in mainstream hip hop vs. country trends. The mainstream will be divided between two camps of more traditionalists who need that twang and then gen z motherfuckers who like the high pitched vocals. Rock will never achieve a revival and will always be an underground/indie genre. Eventually, indie pop will die off and be replaced with a more electronic sound. Since humans will become even more antisocial, music is going to be much less emotional and much more focused on atmosphere, thus creating a dark age in many genres. Eventually, humans will decide to overthrow technology and revert to the mid 2000s sorta vibes and music will gain emotion again. By the late 21st century, climate change will have become such a large issue that music will grow hopeless, and humans will brace for the end. After a large series of disasters, musicians will have to start from scratch due to a destroyed planet that is out of technology and the resources needed to create it again. For the rest of human history, there will only be folk music played with family and passed down for generations.


dkajch

man i was on the verge of a panic attack the whole time i was reading this why would u do that to me??? 😭😭


StayFrostyOscarMike

I unironically think, but mostly hope, punk comes back and it’s not even like a “genre”… just so many different genres having political punk elements/social commentary elements. We will get a hyperpop song about blowing up pipelines before the end of the decade. I hope to see more songs with the sentiments/elements of technophobia, anti-fascism, ecoterrorism, anti-police, anti-neoliberalism, existentialism, post-irony, etc etc.


GrouchySalary5677

Genesis - Calling All Stations


DustinCPA

Oh wow, that’s a memory… I used to play Send me to the Congo to troll my college roommates


shweeney

My first thought as well - their debut gets a lot of stick but it's miles better than CAS.


Fleczoza

Chance the rapper?


PickMeUpForeIDrown

His career has not ended


xtr44

downvoted for stating the fact lol (at the point of writing this original comment was like -40)


imadreamgirl

> “i reject ur reality, and substitute my own” —the downvoters, probably


DM_ME__YOUR_B00BS

Waiting for the comeback of the centure personally


Fleczoza

I do not agree with this, but Genesis' last album Calling All Stations with Ray Wilson on vocals is widely considered to be their worst. 2Pac's posthomous albums were getting worse with every release, with the last one being a disaster. I don't know whether Stone Sour or System of a Down ever release any new music, but their last albums were their worst IMO.


contagion781

Hypnotize by SOAD was very very solid though and its quality had nothing to do with the end of their career. That is a really weird album to pick imo. It was just an album that happened to be their last


at_mo

SOAD just doesn’t have a single miss


Lost_Farm8868

Do posthumous albums count?


TheRealLifeSaiyan

I'd say no tbh, they're more like bonuses for fans than 'real albums'


yugyuger

System albums are all great 5 bangers no misses


Nikson9

Nahhh Hydrograd was solid imo, Audio Secrecy was for sure the worst, the rest, I agree tho lmao


TheTubeman

Anyone replacing Phil Collins after leaving Genesis would’ve had big shoes to fill not only on vocals for Ray, but also for whoever took over on drums. IIRC Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks didn’t ask their other live drummer, Chester Thompson, to help with Calling All Stations, instead opting to use two studio-session drummers for the album. The lack of consistency and quality of Collins’ drumming and vocals, or anyone close to his caliber with both, on Calling All Stations hindered the album tremendously. Even if some think it’s not the worst Genesis album, it never had a fair chance of being one of the band’s best albums


shweeney

They apparently did ask Thompson to play on it, but he wanted to be made a full member of the band and they refused.


[deleted]

The title track on Calling all Stations is a banger imo.


Vibalist

Outkast - Idlewild


NastySassyStuff

I feel like Mardi Gras almost doesn’t count and Squeeze definitely doesn’t which actually makes it so CCR and VU ended on my favorite albums of theirs: Pendulum and Loaded. I like that much better.


shweeney

I certainly wouldn't count Squeeze as it's missing Lou Reed and all the other original Velvets. But Mardi Gras does have John Fogerty on it so it's fair game.


send_in_the_clouds

To be fair vu didn’t end their careers with squeeze. The band had already split up by that point and was a vu album only in name.


SniperKorobov

Can


Sea_Lunch_3863

Can't argue, Rite Time is dreadful.


Legitimate_Tap_9852

Chance the rapper


ThaSleepyBoi

A lot of reunion albums would fall under this banner. In Space by Big Star, Fourth by the Verve. The last Byrds album, the last CSNY album (especially). All Shook Down is probably the worst Replacements album. 


Zachles

I'm gonna say The Pogues with Pogue Mahone in 1995.  It just wasn't the same without MacGowan. But the quality of the music was also steadily declining in my opinion.


kysposers

But man those first three records are absolutely brilliant


Enigmua7

I would say Pink Floyd's last album is arguably their worst. Some people act like it doesn't exist when rating the Pink Floyd albums


MassfuckingGenocide

I agree. It isn't really said because Gilmore fans usually say the Final Cut is their worst & Waters fans might say Ummaguma or AMLOR. Honestly, I love Ummaguma. There's really nothing like it. AMLOR is definitely more memorable & good-intended than Endless River. More also has some of their most beautifying cuts & I wouldn't accept that answer either. As for the Final Cut... Waters knows it's not his best work & maybe you could argue it's their worst...


FontainesACDC

Talking Heads - Naked


MichaelJAwesome

REM maybe? It's weird, I always think of New Adventures in HiFi as their last album, for some reason, and forget they have another five albums that I've never listened to more than once. I can't remember if Collapse Into Now is the worst of those.


GayisGaywhenGay

None of the albums are bad, but Conventional Weapons is the lowest ranked in my opinion for MCR before they broke up in 2013 I believe.


stupidhuman33

I wouldn’t even count that though because they didn’t want it to be released and it was released two songs at a time so technically a bunch of EPs, danger days is the worst in my opinion even though it’s still pretty good


FayMax69

Can someone pls explain to me what this sub is about?


carpetedfloor

It’s technically a sub about the YouTuber and music critic Anthony Fantano, and there is discussion about his videos and reviews whenever he posts one. However, when there’s nothing new about Fantano to talk about, the sub just likes to discuss anything about music in general. This sub tends to be more critical and willing to be negative than most music discussion subs, which I find to be its biggest strength.


FayMax69

Thanks.


ReaderWalrus

There's also a sizable contingent of people who seemingly hate Anthony, or at least dislike him. I don't really know what they're doing here but they're fun to have around.


MichaelJAwesome

Music nerds talking about music.


mmzpdk

the Let It Be Phil Spector edition is kind of a sad way to end, if you don't consider Abbey Road as the last (their best album)


Mineingmo15

Let it be definitely isn't the worst Beatles album, but the Phil Spector mix really is the worst way to listen to it.


Dat_Swag_Fishron

Let It Be isn’t their best, but an album with Get Back, Two Of Us, Across the Universe, and Let It Be cannot be their worst


AmericanNimrod49

Butthole Surfers


Dry-Ad-4895

Surprise nobody has said The Clash yet. Cut The Crap was so bad, even Strummer tried to take it to court to not release the album.


the_popes_dick

No one said it bc OP said it lol did you read the post?


Dry-Ad-4895

My fault, I was half asleep when I posted it. Was gonna comment The Doors as well since their 2 albums without Jim are all doodoo but looks like I didnt comment it lol


forbiddenmemeories

Emerson Lake & Palmer, *Love Beach*


ponylauncher

Rage Against The Machine


First_Yak3802

Sticky Bubbly


YungSpicyBoi

The Velvet Underground.


RealSlimRosey

Brockhampton ending with TM definitely gave me some nostalgia but it was kinda a let down. after PUPPY leaked a few days ago i really wish that was the final send off


sludgebaby96

Mindless Self Indulgence. That last one was a mixed bag of bangers and total flops.


MichaelJAwesome

You could make a case for Hot Sauce Committee Part Two from The Beastie Boys. I think most people would put The Mix Up as their worst album, but I really like it.


twalk126

Everyone I've met that's listened to hot sauce committee has told me they really liked it


Nervous-Tip7048

I fear Rainbow Kitten Surprise will die with this new dogshit album they are about to put out


lankmachine

La Cucaracha by Ween. Dean and Gene pretty much both took it as a sign that they had lost their mojo and they called it off soon after


_PeopleMakeNoises_

Talking Heads sadly


CandelaBelen

Panic at the Disco