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No_Reading_8911

It looks great. The models of the animatronics have blown me away. And Matthew Lillard is William Afton!


parzivalcro91

Dont spoil me the plot i just want to know does in any moment in movie name 'William Afton' appears or is Mathew Lillard under name Steve Raglan the whole time?


tyleeeeee123

I just saw the premiere in Wellington, NZ. Yes, William Afton is in the movie and he's not Steve the whole time.


JereKane

There's a clip on twitter going around of a fight breaking out during the credits lmao. The Fight of '87


CelebrationSimilar11

"We used to leave the kids in the cinema unattended too... And then there was the fight of '23.".


JereKane

The Fans do get a bit quirky at night


CelebrationSimilar11

Hello? Hello... uh... what on Earth are you doing there? Uh, didn’t you get the memo? Uh, the place is closed down, at least for a while. Someone beat up a fan. He had a phone, a yellow one, he was using it... Now none of the fans are acting right. Listen, j-just finish your shift. I-It’s safer than trying to leave in the middle of the night.


AnOminousAnonymous0

BIG Spoilers for the Bite scene: >!It’s not a child that gets bitten but rather the adult woman seen in the teaser trailers - the scene of the hand coming out of Freddy's head etc. You don’t get a clear view but there’s an amazing shot of the silhouette showing it (She gets bitten CLEAN in half and you see the silhouette of half her body falling to the floor)!<


annikaoOo

The whole room i was in like about 30 people clapped( one of many actually) at that scene ....im just kinda sad it was in the trailer...like most jumpscares/ super cool bits


weirdo_dingo

i think they showed too much in the trailers


annikaoOo

Yeah like 98% of the jumpscares are in the trailers ...the first like 30 mins of the movie are in the trailers


RealBlueMak

Honestly, the majority of the jumpscares in the movie are just Balloon Boy appearing out of nowhere, scaring Mike Man, I hate Balloon Boy


weirdo_dingo

my friend kept screaming YOUR MOTHER when he appeared and it was the funniest part of the movie for me. They HAAATE balloon boy


opsmminer

Litteraly everyone was shouting, "WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87?!"


dildodicks

they played the fucking song, matpat said that's just a theory, afton said he always comes back, that's all i needed


Idontwanttousethis

Wait matpat said that's just a theory? The cinema was screaming too loud for me to hear any dialogue in that scene 😭 (I was also guilty of screaming)


Okami0602

Literally last thing he said lol Sadly, in my country (Brazil) Game Theory isn't that famous, so less than half of the cinema screamed (I saw it at the premiere)


Shootbosss

We had a full cinema, pretty sure i was the only one screaming at that moment


Okami0602

When he said "But that's just a theory" I started clapping but noticed I was the only one then stopped... I'm sad to be one of the few who recognized him here, like, everyone clapped in almost every reference/easter egg but only a few noticed Matpat


SlashGames

What was matpat's character?


dildodicks

a waiter at a place called sparky's


ArisK16

The dog!


SoupsSB

It seems Sparky even appears in the movie in parts and service. Gonna need to watch again to confirm


VGTRiscrap

That was definitely him, with a dog collar to confirm! That was such a fucking cool easter egg


KRTrueBrave

and he had a nametag with the name ness


anactualreddituser

Did they fucking reference an entire different franchise theory?


KRTrueBrave

it might be coincidence but like come one that's a reference to sans is ness so if you really think about it sans is in the fnaf movie


UnluckyGamer505

I really pointed at the screen like in that Leonardo Dicaprio meme when Matpat appeared


EvilAaube

Just a waiter.


Spenglenoodle

Matpat's tag says 'Ness' also, fucking balloon boy


chrissystark

The BB gag had me rolling 💀


East_Still_6964

dude same lmfao! >!especially the after credits with the taxi driver!<


Anisha_Satya

That is BRILLIANT


glitchingsky58

Oh dang, I’m going to have to get off Reddit way sooner than expected.


DJRodrigin69

Lmao, same Already bought tickets to the 26th here on Brazil, hope i dont get any spoilers until then


Winter_Hearing3090

CUPCAKE WAS LITERALLY HALF THE MOVIE BRO cupcake did more than bonnie and freddy. Foxy did alot aswell but cupcake the most


RealBlueMak

Im quite surprised as well that the Cupcake did more than the main animatronics. •It had one confirmed kill, mauling Carl's face (btw great reference to the theory that the Cupcake's name is Carl) •It had more action sequences, being a threat to humans in 3 scenes •It CAUSED the Spring Lock failure, like WOW They should have called the movie "Cupcake", instead of FNAF


RealJohnGillman

I was wondering whether Cupcake (or the Balloon Boy toy) may have contained Mike’s brother’s ghost, based on the number of ghosts shown against the number of animatronics.


VolksDK

The bad cupcake production name makes so much sense now


DoofyMaiden

yea i got confused at first on why this thing played a big role in the movie, even much more than the OG casts hahaha. but love to see something different than the game lore


Background-Ad-3955

I wanna watch the movie without getting spoiled, but my curiosity is killing me.


Yound_Celery

Same. I need to know what happens but I have to be patient


AnusANNUSANNUSANNUS

Does anyone have any actual spoilers to post or just jokes lmao


dreamboycolor

no everyone's just making shit up. I really don't think spoilers will be online until at least tomorrow. Every post is just people being like "SPOILERS ARE OUT BLOCKING ALL KEYWORDS"


alsotheuniverse

\[gore in spoiler\] That >!beheading!< absolutely took me out. I don't know what I was expecting but it wasn't that at all. Was great though!


Wiitab360

Not really a beheading. She was bitten in half.


LeahBathRoad

It's not really a beheading, it's more just chomped in half.


Pirate_Loot

Loved it! For anyone who sat through the credits what did the voice spell at the end? It wasn’t Help Them because it had an E at the end. I was thinking It’s Me but it seemed too short for it? Living tombstone at the end was great The animatronics amazing Good plot twists Not really any jumpscares tbh


FairlySadPanda

C O M E F I N D M E


Pirate_Loot

Awesome thanks! It was too long for me to keep up with after I noticed what it was doing haha!


FairlySadPanda

Suspect that radio broadcasts from his bunker is going to be how he controlled the animatronics, alongside exploiting their lack of memories.


Special_Abroad8882

Thank you! I picked out o m e and then i n d m e and could NOT put it together ffs


TheAntiWrath

Can you answer some questions, thee are some make or break for it if I see the film or not: \-Is Mike an Afton? \-How as Matthew as Afton? \-How does the movie end? \-Is there any Mid or Post Cred Scenes, if so, what are they?


FairlySadPanda

1. No 2. Lillard is great but underused 3. Pizzeria sort of ends up in ruins and Springtrap left to rot in the back, presumably ready for movie 2 4. Very funny second Cory cameo


PhasmicPlays

Loved the part where afton said it’s aftoning time and aftoned over everyone


BEHEMOTHpp

Together We're Fnaf As freddy, bonnie, chica, foxy abby, michael, and vanessa lies on the floor forming a circle


IsNotNathan

Why was there kind of a mystery around Mike's last name? Like the scene where him and Vanessa are introducing themselves and he just says Mike. Only to end up being Mike Schmidt not Afton?? Like what was the point of all that??


ireallydontcare1099

I think it was him recognising the surname, because he was responsible for abducting Garrett Schmidt. In like a “what are the odds?” fashion. I agree though, I initially interpreted it as him finding the surname laughable. Like Mike had changed his name (or his name had been changed in childhood) and William was in disbelief, able to recognise Mike whilst Mike no longer recognised him.


glitchingsky58

How did William know what Garrett’s last name was? Maybe he saw news reports or missing posters about it?


MandyMarieB

Def the news reports clued him in.


Frank33666

BEFORE YOU READ ON I BASICALLY SPOIL EVERYTHING AND LET ME KNOW IF I MISS ANYTHING If you don't care then continue lol, and if you haven't seen the movie then please pay attention to the arcade cabinets because there's probably something there which I missed. ​ Everything I noticed (from memory) (Not everything is some hidden detail, most is just obvious stuff) Arcade style intro reminiscent of the minigames and living tombstone mv's Person sized vents for people/animatronics Magic rainbow from fnaf world at the ice cream shop obvious "Dream Theory" nod with the book William using a different name as a disguise (Steve Raglan) (Like Dave Miller in the books) Balloon Boy just appearing everywhere lol The training tape features an endo skeleton which I'm pretty sure is the only time which we see one in the movie (just thought it was cool) The Original "Celebrate" poster in the office William's car is similar to the one in the fnaf 2 minigames (although not purple and this could also just be a coincidence ) The whole concept of talking to dead children is similar to the use of remnant in the books "It's me" written in condensation on a mirror Sparky's Diner named after the fnaf 1 hoax of the "6th animatronic" Sparky the dog MATPAT + (bonus "that's just a theory" line) Midnight Motorist shirt worn by Carl Carl being killed by "Mr Cupcake" (who was originally nicknamed Carl by the fandom) When Mike touches the foxy kid in his dream his eyes turn black, and when foxy kills the other guy destroying the place, he gouges out his eyes Sparky the dog animatronic casing in the supply closet where hank is killed (No idea how this fits into the lore lol) Max's death possibly being a reference to the bite of 83 or 87 (and among us lol) Old fnaf halloween masks in the prize corner The "Saw-like" torture device looks a lot like Dreadbear with the eyes faded away and turned white The dead bodies in/around multiple sparky suits ? (can't remember whether it was just 1 or multiple) Nothing else in the torture room (Side note, I have no idea how Vanessa saves Mike, was she just waiting outside of the exit ? Did she taze foxy ? Idk) Vanessa straight up being a daughter of afton and not a follower trying to resurrect him The Photo of Vanessa and William is similar to the image of Henry and WIlliam from the graphic novels (William being the one who's face we can't see) What I think is a Circus Baby prototype ( Red cheeks, baby attire, red hair (I think) ) being used to demonstrate the springlocks (I'll explain later) Golden Freddy missing his ear (meaning that this is the design from fnaf 2) CORY Tasers being used to subdue the animatronics ( Sister location reference or just basic logic ? ) Abby almost being put into the Circus Baby prototype, mirroring Elizabeth's death in the games Abby hiding in the ballpit in a similar way to the cover of Fazbear Frights #1 (Also thought it was funny that there's a card game arcade machine called Royal Flush in a childrens pizza restaurant lol) The Spring Bonnie suit is slightly decayed and/or burnt on one side The knife he uses could be a reference to Vanny in security breach, although what else would you use I guess William being surrounded by the animatronics obviously to mirror the fnaf 3 cutscene, only this time the spring locks go on due to a chain reaction started by Mr.Cupcake Him twitching in the supply closet in a similar way to the fnaf 3 teasers, and the sister location end scene The Pizzeria crumbling similar to the fnaf 6 pizzeria in security breach THE LIVING TOMBSTONE END CREDITS I was looking through the credits to see whether I could find anything but nope The Puppet's music box after the first credits (Obviously hinting at fnaf 2) Letters spelling "COME FIND ME" said by a robotic voice in reference to the "SAVE HIM" and "SAVE THEM" message in fnaf 2 ​ Thoughts ? Scariest parts were the deaths of max, hank, carl, and the other guy. The movie was pretty tense, and because it strayed pretty far from the lore, I never knew what would happen next. 8/10, could easily be scarier however I understand that it had to be okay for younger audiences and I still hope that they release a longer scarier version like they did with Megan. Edit: I was mostly right with the prototype Baby idea, it's an animatronic from the books/graphic novels called ella, which is basically a prototype version of baby Another edit: The animatronic dog seen in the supply closet is fetch from the fazbear frights books and not Sparky. Sparky doesn't have the golden collar which fetch does


CelebrationSimilar11

Circus baby? I thought the new springlock suit was a springlock version of Ella from the books :O I could be wrong though aha.


MrSmilerSlenderProxy

If im not mistaken i read somewhere that animatronic dog is NOT sparky but is actually Fetch from fazbear frights also him using a knife is not from vanny it is from when he dressed up as spring bonnie and did it in the silver eyes novel which he was also springlocked and had his death watched by the robots like in the movie this movie is a lot more like the books


new_one_9

Although they’re killer animatronics, it’s good that it was brought back to its core of child spirits being trapped in robots. I’m glad that Vanessa pointed out that they were being controlled by Afton and they didn’t want to hurt people. It was cool to see them acting child like and wanting to play in scenes, and Abby showing concern for them at the end too rather than them being made out to be evil throughout. Also, I absolutely loved the nod to sparky the dog. It was a great reference to the early fnaf days


DoofyMaiden

I LOVE THE SPARKY THE DOG TOO ARGHHH NO ONE SEEMS TO TALK ABOUT IT! THANK YOU FOR THIS


TheMadJAM

My favorite parts were when the animatronics got to act goofy with Abby.


DoofyMaiden

>!is it just me or sparky the dog was actually there at the last scene before the dead bodies in Piled on top of the animatronics scene?!<


AverageUKperson

I thought I was the only one who noticed! I saw him in the first parts and service scene, the dismantled mess of an animatronic. I thought “I’d that him?!” But thought it may have just been Freddy.


DoofyMaiden

thank you yall for the confirmation, i was so happy that hes in there!


Frank33666

>!yep definitely him, I don't think freddy has a comically large bone instead of a bowtie, we also saw the diner which matpat works at named after him lol!< Edit, pretty sure it's fetch from the fazbear fright books and not sparky


BEHEMOTHpp

>!Do you know that Lunch is the best meal of the day, That's just a theory!<


metaaltheanimefan

>!didnt even realize it was mat at first!<


PlagueDilopho

its definitely him, and the restaurant was called sparky's wasnt it?


xmy451

YES! and when they were breaking in you could see it better, must've been sparky with the dog tag!


RebeccaGoneRogue

Here are my opinions on the movie as a fan of the games (Spoilers obv). Also: I'm not a film buff, just an enjoyer of the franchise. Opinion alert. \- Mike and Abby's brother and sister relationship was really well executed, especially acting wise. They spoke and acted how siblings would and the movie also delved into the strained parts of their relationship and how Mike struggled to connect with his younger sister. I especially liked the scene where he just picks her up and chucks her before taking his vest back. That was sweet. The actor's bonds were believable (for me, at least) and interesting to watch. I especially loved how Abby's actress actually behaved how a child her age would in a place such as Freddy's. Sentient robots that interact with you? Of course she's gonna be excited and want to keep coming back. Hats off to Piper Rubio for leaning into that element of childlike wonder. I guess it's easy for her since she is a child and the animatronics were real, but it still felt like she was acting and not just being a kid on a movie set. \- The animatronics were a big highlight of the movie. I loved that they were practical and not CGI. The attention to detail was great. The designs paid tribute to the original game while also incorporating realistic elements that brought them to life on the big screen. I liked how the use of the soft materials, especially on Foxy's face. I will say there were some scenes where you could tell the puppeteers were acting instead of the animatronics being remote-controlled, which bothered me slightly but didn't ruin the magic for me. They were extremely expressive, especially Freddy. However, they were a little underused horror-wise. A lot of deaths or attacks from the animatronics were off-screen and the cupcake was way too overused. I didn't like how it was the one to activate the springlocks for Afton. (I'll get to that scene in a moment). These robots are meant to be menacing and intimidating creatures, so the fact we didn't get to see them in action was extremely upsetting. For example Foxy running at his targets was cool and a nice throwback to his original game mechanic but I didn't enjoy how, after this, it would just cut to black/cut to another scene. \- Vanessa was an interesting addition to the story but unfortunately was burdened with the task of saying the goofiest dialogue. The actress was great regardless of this shortcomings, she was extremely expressive and the scene where she confronts her father, when she's stabbed by him and feels conflicted when telling Mike about him was a great watch and really made me hurt for her, but the writing team just did not like her for some reason. I will say that the actress has really beautiful eyes!! But I digress. The scene where she snaps at Mike, telling him that she'll shoot him if he brings Abby back to the pizzeria was just weird for me. It was supposed to be stern and threatening, but it was just kind of strange and out-of-place. Her character just seems to be there to explain the main story to non-fans and also to Mike. One thing I appreciated is how they didn't lean into a romantic subplot with Mike and Vanessa. Not every movie with a guy and a girl requires them to be smoochin' and it especially wouldn't feel right with this franchise so I'm glad they didn't fall into the Hollywood trap. \- Matthew Lillard as Afton was extremely under utilised. He appears around the beginning and returns around the end and then he gets locked in the spare room supposedly ready for a comeback in the sequel. He serves as a substitute for the phone guy but he just felt really lackluster for me. Also, yes, he said the thing ("I always come back") but the delivery just really fell flat. The man's torso was being punctured by metal and he didn't seem that bothered by it, just kind of irritated and biting his tongue to avoid screaming- but that's what I honestly would've preferred. The springlock scene in general was really disappointing for me and I was quite upset that it didn't live up to the hype that fans interpreted. In the games, it's initially quick, but extremely bloody and leads to Afton twitching before gradually falling to the floor and succumbing to his wounds. In the movie it's still slow, with the springlocks puncturing him one by one instead of all at once (another thing I didn't prefer) and Afton doesn't seem as terrified by it as you would assume. He just kind of accepts that it's happening before PUTTING THE HEAD OF THE COSTUME THAT'S KILLING HIM BACK ON, saying his iconic line and having the animatronics drag him away. I don't know whether this is a direction flaw or a writing flaw but overall Afton as a character didn't seem as menacing and intricate as the games which was extremely disappointing. \- There are PLENTY of easter eggs for fans look out for that I really appreciated. I can't remember all of them from the top of my head but some include the original CELEBRATE poster, Chica's Magic Rainbow being some sort of mascot for this ice-cream bar that Mike goes to, Dream theory reference and a cameo from both MatPat and CoryXKenshin. Also, yes, Matthew Patrick has a cameo in this film and he says his catchphrase. Y'all were making sad edits about him but the man was lying. /j. Also, despite not being a Cory fan (I don't dislike him, I'm just not familiar with his content) his cameo made me laugh. He was a funny part of the film and despite his short appearance I enjoyed it a lot. Also, THE LIVING TOMBSTONE SONG IN THE CREDITS WAS BRILLIANT! Props to the producers of the film for understanding the fan's love for the games. \- I really wish they incorporated more horror elements into the film. For a franchise so well renowned in the horror community it just kind of lacked those scary elements. Sure, there were plenty of jumpscares but unfortunately a lot of them weren't that surprising since the trailers spoiled a lot of them which I was a little bit peeved about. It was upsetting to see how this movie aimed for an M rating/PG-13 rating and it just didn't feel too scary for me. A lot of the deaths were just kind of glossed over. Like, there's one scene where Mike is in Parts and Services surrounded by corpses and he just doesn't react to them? However the jumpscare where Max, the babysitter, gets cut CLEAN in half did make me shocked. I was not expecting that, even from a franchise like FNAF. Nevertheless, I was quite disappointed that a movie based off a franchise that spooked and scared tons of people just didn't incorporate a lot of elements you'd expect from a horror movie. \- Finally, the infamous table fort scene. Yes, it was campy and, yes, it felt out of place. I both loved it and cringed at it. I liked how the movie leaned into humanisation of the animatronics and highlighted how they were still children who still somewhat hold onto that innocence. I liked the motif of using imagery to communicate messages and how Abby's drawings played an important role in moving the story along. Do it think it could have been handled better? Sure. Do I think it should've been the reason the tables are turned on Afton. Definitely not. The attempt was there and I was interested in how they utilised the recurring theme of correlating Abby's drawings to childhood innocence as well as the loss of that innocence around the end. But i still think it could've been done right. I was cringing at the table fort scene when watching the film in theatres despite it making me laugh but, looking back on it, it was a fun to see our favourite animatronics be giant goofballs despite this being a tactic to lure Abby in. I still don't understand why Vanessa wanted to help them and indulge in their fun if she knew they would turn out to be evil but whatever. It was a cute scene and was fun to watch as a fan. Yeah, it was a tiny bit strange but still funny and sweet even when taking into account the motives of the animatronics. Overall, after collecting my thoughts and reviewing other people's opinions, I'd personally give the movie a solid 7/10. It was lacking in some areas and maybe if they leaned into the lore of the games more than the lore of the books I might have enjoyed it a little bit more, but for the most part it was a pretty good movie for fans to enjoy. I'm hoping the next two movies of the trilogy take into account both the non-fan reviewers and fan's criticisms and work to make them a little bit better than the first. I wouldn't go see this movie expecting it to be a typical horror film despite it being advertised as such, it's more of a thriller that's more focused on telling a story than scaring you. Maybe the scares would have been better if it weren't for the trailers, but regardless it's a good film for the fans but slightly disappointing if you're expecting it to be similar to the game because it's just not. A lot of loose ends have yet to be tied up but hopefully will be in the next movies. Don't take the film too seriously, have fun and enjoy it. Thanks for reading.


Waluigi_Boi

My one real complaint for the movie is they never ‘play the game’ in the movie. They have the security office, but it’s only used for Mike’s dreams and forgotten about after night 3. Same goes for the cameras, and the doors weren’t used after the intro scene. It doesn’t have to be a full night or anything, just something that uses the classic gameplay in some way. Other than that, I did enjoy the movie and hope we do get more eventually. Plus no nose boop, but that’s a different story


Riley8284

If MatPat is on the movie which seems to possibly be the case. I bet he will be a conspiracy theorist on the Missing Children’s incident. I would scream if he then said “but hey that’s just a theory! A conspiracy theory!” Or something like that If someone’s seen the movie tell me if I got this right. I’m hopefully seeing it tomorrow but I have to know


DoofyMaiden

nope, He is however in the movie (iirc) however it lasted for like <5 secs and he doesnt play a major nor minor role, hes just.. there.. ​ >!he did say "but hey thats just a theory" but does not relating to any FNAF or anything relevant.!<


Snapstick

I can't help but feel like a lot was cut from it. None of the animatronics where voiced (not saying that's a negative) the puppet wasn't in it despite supposedly being cast and a lotta the stuff from the security tape (news report, shadow freddy) didn't make it into the final cut. I feel it could have benefitted from an extra 20 minutes or so, Afton comes out of nowhere for a non-fan and a few things go nowhere (Aunt Jane dies and is then never brought up again). That being said I loved the movie, Dream theory book, Sparky, Ella springlock suit, Matpat were all great. Love how they made the pixel art at the beginning match Scotts Style. Overall I think it had a nice message about letting go of the past or being consumed by it. I also think that it managed to juggle various tones well, the movie manages to go from being eerie to lighthearted and campy to eerie again. As a fan 10/10 As a non-fan 7/10


RickTitus

Mike would totally have some explaining to do to authorities. In a custody battle with his aunt, who violently dies in his house???


SrikarPGLT

I really wonder how the animatronics were able to clean up their mess after each murder. That guy who was killed in the closet, it was clean when Mike visited (except that one stain ofc). Similarly Aunt Jane?!


kamiloss14

>!Wasn't Vanessa doing this? I mean, she knew about their deaths, and worked with Afton most of the time, so it would either be her or PG!<


FazbearADULTEntBS

I don’t see the issue with the fort scene. The fort scene gives the robots themselves more character by showing they aren’t just mindless robots trying to kill Mike. It’s important to emphasize that these animatronics are, at their core, *children.* You lose the real tragedy of the missing kids if you only focus on them as vengeful killer robots. By giving them a moment of levity where they play with Abby, it serves as a reminder that they were once just like her, but their lives, their innocence, was stolen.


ThatOneVultra

unironically my favourite scene LOL it's just plain fun


SymphonySketch

I loved it, but I’d be lying if I didn’t accidentally say “what the *fuck*” out loud while everyone was laughing in the theater Not in a bad way, but in a “this whole movie feels like a fever dream” kinda way, absolutely loved it


non_binary_code

ITS SO CUTE!!!!!!!!


windiercities

I liked it on the basis of the characterization but I feel like it kind of impacted the pacing of the movie


FairlySadPanda

The UK/Irish reviews rolling out are really fair I think; in terms of the script, it is a pretty strange choice to neither go for a slasher movie or a goofier take on the franchise. The route taken means that its humour is sort of incidental, nod-at-the-audience nonsense, whilst it also tries to have the main character be struggling with (very long-term) trauma. Fingers crossed when we get a sequel, it has a more stable production pipeline and is more sure about the lane it's sitting in.


Z_dot_the_artist

I went to see the first screening available in my city. Quite litterally on the bus Back home as i write this. The Moment Matthew said "I ALWAYS COME BACK" the ENTIRE Theatre erupted in Cheers. The Spring Lock Scene was fantastic, Long, Slow, Drawn out to really show How painful that shit was. No mark, As Expected, But Seeing MatPat Playing the 50's Diner Waiter Was hilarious. he did a great Job. Personally, I believe the 2nd movie Will Be about Abby, 20 Years from now, Finding out that Someone is trying to revive the horror she, Mike and Vanessa went through Viq Fazbear Frights and took a job there to "Visit her friends" and The Plot runs from there. But thats just my Theory.


ZynsteinV1

Tbh, the I always come back felt so forced. They had to put it in there somewhere cause it's Afton, it's his line i get it but it felt like there were better times. Like could have had vanessa tell mike that he always comes back or something. Just felt like "oh shit we're out of time gotta get the line in"


Z_dot_the_artist

I can See where you're Coming From, And I Do think the Pacing Was a little Off and The Ending should have been Longer And They should have used Afton More. I think It was Just the Excitement and Joy of everyone seeing the Springlock scene That made everyone Just Lose their Shit When he said it lmao. I Do Think perhaps It would have been better saved for the end, While Hes Twitching In the Backroom, Some sort of Gutteral "I Will Always Come back!" Or some shit might have been more Chilling/Effective. i do think Matthew Really killed it as Afton though, and Its a shame he wasnt In the movie More. Some Hint towards his Involvement with Vanessa, or perhaps mike Talking to Him about the break in would have been Interesting.


ZynsteinV1

Yeah, he was a good afton, just not much to work with. needed way more time for the character to really come thru


NewmanHiding

>!Did anybody else think the “I’ll always come back” made no sense in the context of the movie whatsoever?!<


alexdionisos

Yes. It's more a line people picture Afton barely croaking out before the springlocks squash what little of him is left, not just tossed out randomly


dreamboycolor

After watching the springlock scene with full context I don’t think it’s as bad as people are saying. Realistically there wouldn’t be gushes and pools of blood coming out like in the game. He got stabbed when someone gets stabbed with the knife still inside them they don’t just start exploding blood. If they had had the end credits scene with Springtrap as the end of the springlock scene it would’ve worked better imo instead of sticking it at the end and they should’ve cut the “I always come back” line entirely imo I don’t think it worked in the context of the scene. I don’t think the scene was bad, just weirdly directed.


TheOmazingOmar

I mean he kept coming back to Freddy's as he started killing kids there and came back to kill again when Mike was the security guard


dreamboycolor

Well they didn’t put much emphasis on the point that he kept coming back I don’t think. Correct me if I’m wrong but the initial 5 kids were more spaced out instead of a single incident. If they had put more emphasis on the continuous murders Afton was doing it would’ve flowed better. Or adding some line of dialogue from someone saying like “you can’t hurt anyone anymore” or something like that idk I’m not a screenwriter and then have him say the line would’ve made it better imo


FairlySadPanda

The Gamespot review makes a really good point; it really would not be surprising if there's a cut of this movie possible with ten or twenty more minutes of runtime that improves it a lot, giving the second half's plot much more time to breathe. Not sure that's going to happen but given it's a "for the fans" movie, as specified, and given it's this franchise, it wouldn't surprise me if we see this movie get an extended cut. There are scenes we 100% know exist and were shot that are outright missing, such as the reporter reporting on the missing kids in front of the pizzeria.


NatureEnvironmental1

I really wouldn’t be surprised if there was at least one Afton scene that was cut. Like you said earlier, him basically exiting the film in the 2nd act is a pretty big negative and kinda throws the pacing off and makes the 3rd act seem rushed


SerpentisSana

Didn’t the director said there will be 20 minutes of extras in her AMA?


awkwardfingerguns27

I wanted to bring up some parallels between the movie and the games that seem kinda interesting, like it seems to confirm some things and throws some new things in the ring. NEW(ISH) IDEAS - Vanessa is William Afton’s daughter in the movie: I know this theory was already up in the air with her dad being called “Bill” in the games, and it was implied that he manipulated and abused her, but this connection seems solidified by the movie, or at least makes it explicitly clear that Vanessa and Afton are connected in some way in the games. - The Crying Child’s movie stand-in is called Garrett: So while this doesn’t necessarily confirm the Crying Child’s name, it’s worth pointing out that every other character’s parallel has the same name. William Afton, Vanessa, Michael, Abby (short for Elizabeth). So logically, a character who isn’t named in the game but is named in the movie would share the same name. Also, Scott co-wrote the script. The name Garrett was chosen deliberately. CONFIRMED EVENTS - The missing children incident took place in the 80s (mentioned by Vanessa) - Michael is the older brother (this didn’t really need conforming at this point but it’s nice to have things definitely set in stone) INTERESTING THINGS TO THINK ABOUT - The spring lock suit Abby was being forced into bears some striking similarities to Circus Baby: this is to be expected, Abby is a parallel to Elizabeth, so she’d be forced into something resembling Baby. But it does pose the question of when Circus Baby was built. Because she has spring locks in her mechanism, implying it was built on the early end of the 80s. Now we all know Sister Location is a bitch when it comes to placing it in the timeline, but this does seem like it could suggest something


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HopeAuq101

That was Ella from Silver Eyes not Baby I was confused as well


dreamboycolor

man I'm actually trying to find spoilers and it's impossible LMAO


CyclingWeasel

The review embargo absolutely sucks


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There’s a scene where freddy and the other 3 help mikes sister make a fort. I’m not even joking


polarizedspaxe123

I mean they’re kids


ColonialPone

The fucking music playing, killed me


ArkhamAsscheecks

It was worrying in the moment lol but it's very clearly just meant to be misdirect before it's revealed the ghost kids aren't allies. They're actually pretty sinister and im glad they didn't end up going down the friendly animatronics route


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Gulfoo

I died laughing man. Me and the others in the cinema could not believe what we were seeing, I genuinely thought it was gonna be a semi-serious horror film but after that I just could not take it seriously. Like I enjoyed the film, it was fun, but the movie I struggled finding scary in any capacity though the animatronics, effects, and actors were great.


IcebergLounge

Personally I loved the film. Especially the end credits song was so awesome. Hope they release it on YouTube shortly after the movie premiers.


SlimeBoss2015

Living tombstone?


DoofyMaiden

yep


Famous-One5644

Was it scary? Or was it kiddy?


Equal_Cartographer24

it wan't super scary, but it was very in-line with the general horror tones of FNaF


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Half and half, some kiddy scenes but a lot of scary scenes too


CyberEcstasy

Haven’t seen the movie yet but I did hear the soundtrack and it was amazing! I think Foxy Fatality is going to be a huge fan favorite


Beowulf_98

Do they teaser FNAF 2 (prequel) or FNAF 3 (sequel) in the ending or end credits (assuming there is one?)


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they tease a sequel in the ending/end credits, but the movie timeline will likely play out differently than the games (og prequel sequel). they directly reference fnaf 2 (and 3 as well) during the movie a few times though


berale_hanzin

the balloon boy jumpscares were more comedic than scary, i think that's how it was meant to be


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how much screentime does springbonnie/trap/william get? is he main focus or more so off screen implied action


FairlySadPanda

The actor gets... two and a bit scenes. Springtrap is shown a lot in the movie but he's only actually around being an actual murder gremlin in the last fifteen minutes or so.


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so is it gonna be like ‘william is doing _____ and we know it but mike and gang has no clue’ or “where the fuck is springtrap”


Kokichi_Ouma_Is_Go

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I saw Sparky the Dog in there


Sparlmao

HOLY SHIT THE ENDING WAS SO FUCKING GOOD !! THE SPRINGLOCK SCENE AND THE LIVING TOMBSTONE SONG AT THE END..(also matpat scene ??!!)


nuggetvengeance

This movie felt like an alternate version of The Silver Eyes. The animatronics were spectacular. 7/10


Ashes2027

are the orange eyes when afton is controlling the animatrionics??


FairlySadPanda

Yep. It's not outright explained how this is done in the movie, either. The movie \_really\_ relies on "eh it's ghost magic, don't think too hard" as a mechanic to handwave how things work. I'd expect the two sequels will go into more of the whys.


PickledGherkinz

Even in the movie balloon boy manages to be the biggest asshole of them all


Pingryada

I will shoot you is the oddest line in the movie


CrazySnipah

I agree; that came out of nowhere. She was encouraging Abby to build a fort in the previous scene!


astroy123

Still can't get over Vanessa saying "if you bring Abby back I will shoot you"


LewsTherinTelescope

Yeah that was a little huh. Even after the end gives her more context it still feels jarring with the way it's executed.


DoofyMaiden

>!did someone managed to watch until the very very end of the credits where it starts to speak in a distorted voice (much like fnaf 3 if im not mistaken?) I only remeber the letters ARIAKU!<


FairlySadPanda

99% sure it is COME FIND ME.


Bulky-Meal

we thought that to


DoofyMaiden

yall, im so dumb, i forgot that i was watching the movie here on my country which obviously are translated to my language🙄. Yes by the thinks of it, it does put out "come find me" as mine was translated to that.


AvailableEast868

If you watched the movie can you explain the plot to me


DoofyMaiden

>!did you know about the lore? basically its the same as the lore, however they (the animatronics) ganged up after abby draw about william afton slaughtering the 5 kids that haunts the animatronic, restoring the animatronic memories, and they start ganging up on william afton, got springlocked, and basically thats it!<


FranzLeFroggo

As a movie fan, the pacing was a bit all over the place, stuff came out of nowhere and things just seem jolted together. As a fan of the games, I had a lot of fun and some of the scenes made me so fucking happy. That diner scene gave me the biggest smile. Still messed some things up and I was slightly confused about how some things connected. I know it won't do well with the critics but I had fun and so did everyone else watching. Any questions, please ask


femmesme

Okay I liked the film a lot. Didn’t love it. Didn’t have high expectations, so it was exactly what I was waiting for the past 8 year. Hoped it would have been better in some aspects, but I don’t mind the direction they took it. One thing that bothers me the most is why wasn’t there a bigger thing made of >!the murder of Aunt jane? Did Golden Freddy behind the scenes dissapparate her body or something. She’d at least be reported missing at some point and Mike would be the first suspect considering the legal battle. Like she just died and nothing comes out of it? Mike and Abby just live happily ever after and theres no investigation or anything!<


Wiitab360

Maybe she really was just sleeping


Equal_Cartographer24

tbh i completely forgot aunt jane existed. maybe this will be a plot point in the sequel or something


blepzzz

If anyone who's seen it can answer without spoilers (and I know this is a subjective question ;P), is Vanessa's role in the movie interesting? What are her relationships like with the other characters (no real specifics please!) ? Thank you!


Ashes2027

Is scott cawthon in the movie in some way shape or form???


Equal_Cartographer24

no


AverageUKperson

Just as a heads up, this is an actual spoiler. During the first parts and service scene, was the dismantled anemetronic Sparky? Or was it just a Freddy model that looked like him? IS SPARKY FINALLY CANNON?!


niles_deerqueer

I FINALLY saw it after being a fan since the first game and I understand why it’s so divisive. This movie isn’t a horror movie, but it’s also just weird. Weird structure, plot, and pacing. I loved the characters, especially the animatronics, and I really cared about what was going on, but my main gripe is that basically nothing is explained. I mean the general audience needs to at least understand WHY William is doing what he’s doing and what happened in Vanessa’s past that was so horrible, which I assume will be explained in the future…if there is one. I actually don’t think the general audience is going to like this very much, it’s not even M3GAN level of horror, it’s very light on it. Then I see why game fans won’t like it because of the lighter atmosphere and the direction they chose to take the story. I still had a fun time but I’m not sure this movie will make a mark enough to have a sequel. If they do get one, they really should ramp up the creepiness and horror (not meaning gore) while also telling a clearer story. Also, I don’t care what people say, the fort building scene was the best scene in the movie. So cute!


Pink_Entity

The Balloon Boy gag was so funny for no reason. He didn't need a bigger part in the movie, it was perfect.


perchedvultures

Him having all three big jumpscares in the movie while all being the laughing “oh FUCK you” kind was PERFECT for BB and I’m so happy (I also liked how they updated his mouth to make him scarier and made him smaller for versatility- is it weird that I want a movie version replica now?


Jabbam

The 15 minute Freddy sex scene actually happens.


CelebrationSimilar11

My ass is not ready for freddy.


CelesFFVI

>!I personally really loved the film, but my one major gripe is that Mike wasn't Michael Afton, the Afton family stuff being my favourite part of the franchise!<


MarKreationsStudios

Is Living Tombstone in the credits?


DoofyMaiden

yes


Civil-Cellist4600

What’s the purpose of the spinny torture chair?


TheAntiWrath

To torture people


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its never said but i get the impression that its supposed to be used to put the suits on the endoskeletons? just a theory though ig but they never really acknowledge it outside of when its being used


Fox_of_Freddys

Things I noticed: - Diner they eat at is called Sparky’s and a Sparky animatronic is seen in the spare suits where the break-iners get stuffed into - Dream Theory book obvious reference to Dream Theory itself - Matpats name is Ness - The animatronic they try to springlock Abby into is not baby, it’s a withered Ella from the FF 1:35AM book/story - I think the electric weapon scene was a nod to fnaf 6? I don’t remember if Vanessa said controlled shock Tbh I am really not a fan of how it ended. WAYY too many things left unanswered. Why is Golden Freddy like that? How can he teleport? He is physical because the taxi gets weighed down, so he can’t be just a ghost? Why is he the main child of the five? Why didn’t Vanessa just stop her father when she had the chance? What the fuck happened to Jane’s body?!? What about the Garret subplot, it just ends after “Wow! Abby is like Garret!” then hes just forgotten about??? Like what the fuck happened to him? What was Afton’s motives? Also not a fan of the whole sleep thing. So much opportunity to explore these animatronics that is severely under-utilised for building forts and dancing and singing and cupcake only scenes… I love fnaf to bits, and everything else in the film was good. I think the springlock scene was great (I do wish it was Vanessa who activated the springlocks though not the cupcake…) but I can’t help but think the ending was severely rushed with no thought put into it. Four Sleeps At Freddys is like, average I’d say. I think there was opportunity to do so much more with what they had but for some reason didn’t.


aussiecomrade01

>Four Sleeps At Freddys is like, average I’d say I’d give Five Naps at Freddy’s a 5/10


FairlySadPanda

Right so I've now seen the FNAF movie. There were I think two people watching it with me at 10am... Overall I think it's probably wise they did not lift the embargo before tomorrow; the average reviewer is not going to buy the premise at all, and the movie is 100% a for-the-fans thing, a $20m fan movie, and a good bit of income for all involved, rather than Blum and co's breakout hit five-starer. This ain't Get Out. That said it's competent, occasionally very good, and rarely boring. Its worst sin is pacing, and my hunch is that there's a lot on the cutting room floor. Raglan being AWOL in the entire second act hurts the ending a lot, and the movie never really builds up a sense of horror. You do get a proper feeling of the tragic side of the story, though - Mike and those around him suffer a lot from the pains of their past and I really liked the human characters in general. EDIT: Wrote in my notes that this is a "horror-themed experience, rather than a horror movie". Which means it does sort of fail at being FNAF1, which at the time was a very spooky game indeed.


OdinsOneG00dEye

I'm going to disagree on the reception. Cinema has been packed all day today. My screening had a great vibe. A few overheard comments from people leaving were positive. But will agree with the genre issue. I think as far as many movies go now with horror we have torture porn horror Saw, Hostel etc, Americana horror - teens go to x, killer is there because and then franchise horror - Halloween etc. This fits nicely in the video game premise with quirky elements. How it is a 15 in the UK is beyond me. Could have been PG/12 easy. Not even a Fuck or Fucking in there to raise the rating needlessly. And I'm glad it is this way as it could have been so easy to go full CGI horror bullshit. The live action animatronics really put the bigger studios to shame on effort to translate material to screen imo.


ColonialPone

The guy who's face that got literally shredded by the cupcake, the aftermath was pretty visible when mike wakes up around the bodies, we were fairly certain that was what bumped up the rating.


NatureEnvironmental1

I suppose I’ll play devils advocate and say that the springlock scene wasn’t that bad. Specifically, I thought the beginning of the scene when the locks were being driven into Afton where decently effective, plus I thought Lillard’s reactions to it where good. The two main problems with it were, imo: 1. There really needed to be SOME blood shown. I wasn’t expecting there to be like, guts spewing everywhere, but this was literally the perfect scene to turn up the gore and the fact that they didn’t do it really lessened the scenes impact. Even just having there be small patches of blood seeping into the suit as he writhes in agony would have been enough. 2. Lillard’s delivery of ‘I always come back‘ fell a little flat. He should have said it in a much more manic fashion imo.


Ashes2027

why does max, hank and company break into freddys? scott cawthon rejected a couple of screenplays due to having no connection between the characters and freddys so why do they break in?? Ik im asking a lot but me and my friend have a lot of questions.


FairlySadPanda

Put up to it to try and get Mike fired.


AnOminousAnonymous0

Basic summary: >!Abby's aunt wants custody of her so she pays Abby's babysitter (and some of her friends) to break into Freddy's to act as though Mike can't do his job properly as a security guard as seen in the trailer!<


yanzin_fan_of_Altair

for me the scariest part from the movie was when william afton's springtraps activated, and they tore into him, and I looked to my right and my 12 yo little brother was [fucking excited like no person should be at such a horrific scene](https://gifdb.com/images/high/excited-anime-girl-pumping-hands-with-joy-vuhd04qp0jo4qjsc.gif)


According_Patient_28

>!so someone posted the endcredits of the movie on x. And we got our wish, five nights at freddys from the living tombstone gets played in the end credits!<


defensife343

It wasn't the perfect movie, but man it was good. All the references to the games and I pointing them like the DiCaprio meme. Although I Felt that the ending felt a little rushed; I still find it enjoyable.


roxadox

Fucking Balloon Boy got me all three times. God damn it.


elirynn

why did cupcake get more screen time than matthew lillard -.-


NextAdministration51

Lillard's "I always come back" didn't hit it for me


bdallas8

I agree, I just didn't understand why it would be in this film when this is the first time he's been springlocked. Like, he hasn't come back yet? nevermind multiple times


denrozenstein

what did you expect? a post-springlock raspy voice with a edgy tone? that's Spring**trap**'s thing specifically. dude was pierced by dozens of metal parts, and Lillard is no PJ Heywood. personally, I think it's better than it was in the games. before it was just an *"edgy phrase to just be edgy"* and in the movie it's like he's saying it out of spite, looking into the eyes of his creations and accepts his demise (by putting his mask back rather than trying to get out of the suit), knowing full well that he will surely come back.


stanky4goats

I just wanna know if they push the PG-13 rating or it's tame


IcebergLounge

It’s not tame or pushing it it’s just the standard PG-13 rating. It’s not a full blown kids film but it’s not for adults, somewhere in between


TyrionLannister557

So, Mike ISN'T an Afton? Because everyone is saying he is?


Iamuss76

For the people who saw the movie, to a person (me) saw the movie i have a question: >!I missed what the letters were that whispered at the end of the credits people were making noise as they were leaving the theatre, what did they spell out!<


EvilAaube

C O M E F I N D M E


Apprehensive_Long_44

The Foxy Hallway run and scream. The animatronics being lifelike. The Matpat Scene. The Springtrap scene. The song at the end. Overall.... v good.


Theaussieperson

As someone who loves the horror genre and really likes the world of fnaf this movie was utterly disappointing, I liked aspects of it and some scenes were great but the overall movie was a complete let down and I'm honestly kinda sad, it's sucks, I really wanted it to be good, but it just wasn't


Both-Ad-674

did anyone else think the springlock scrne was underwhelming?


axb2002

I just finished watching the movie on Peacock and I just didn’t really like it all that much unfortunately :\ Some positives I liked were the general design and work put into the actual animatronics and props. I can tell lots of love was placed into those aspects of the movie. Sound effects were also pretty good in my opinion. I did also like the part where Max got bitten cleanly in half, that was a sick kill. But aside from that everything just felt so…bland? For a movie about a series with a convoluted yet interesting lore they made it kinda boring I guess? Like don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t expecting an Oscar award nominee with this, but I just kind of expected more and all we got was a sort of by the numbers horror movie that wasn’t even all that scary. I’m sure bigger fans of the series will get more enjoyment out of this, but for me as a casual fan who mainly loves the memes surrounding the series I was just kinda whelmed.


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_DEXIF

Here are my two cents on the movie. - I love how "dream theory" was recontextualized as being a way to access memories rather than an explanation of the events of FNAF 4. - The overall feel of the film doesn't really capture the darkness and helplessness of the game's atmosphere, but it clearly wasn't supposed to be a direct recreation of the game anyhow. - The animatronics and how they behave is amazing, but it's a shame bonnie and golden freddy didn't get more screentime. - I think at least one night of the animatronics believing Mike is an intruder and trying to get into the office would've been nice. 5 nights of him sleeping on the job wasn't quite what people were expecting from a film of this game lol - Overall I'd give it a 7/10 for what it is.


pikablue223

Am I the only one that... didn't like it? I think the dream plot was contrived and overdone, there was so much focus on Mike's dead brother, and it felt like Matthew Lillard had a scheduling conflict and could only be in like 2 scenes, so they just wrote the movie around that. I don't know if that's true or not, but it felt like it. I don't know. I just expected more, I guess. I feel like the "going back into your dreams to try and relive your memory for more information" is a plot thread that \*could\* make an interesting movie, it just feels out of place and like such a weird choice for FNAF. And why add Vanessa? Why set the movie in a run-down, closed freddy fazbear location? Why didn't they utilize Golden Freddy, the coolest mystery of the first game? (That goddamn cupcake got more screentime than him!) So much of the game is based on the survival horror of being trapped in an enclosed space where the animatronics are getting ever closer to you, which I feel like is something that could be used... really well in a PG13 horror movie to get something genuinely scary without much gore or blood. Instead, the main character is NEVER trapped in the office, never has to conserve resources or actually do some kind of strategy to beat the animatronics. The tension just wasn't there. There were hardly any jumpscares for a movie based on a film so famous for them. It's weird, because in many ways this movie really did feel like a labor of love. The incredibly designed physical props of the animatronics, the references and cameos, and the plot that (while I wasn't a fan of!) felt like someone put a lot of time and effort into. Despite that though, there were other moments where the film felt like it was made by someone who barely even understood the FNAF lore and the reasons so many people love it. (Or at least, the reasons I loved it!) So many of the decisions felt so bizarre in that way. I didn't have high expectations coming into this film, but I had a fun time watching it with friends, and the matpat cameo made me lose my mind. I got wasted on dollaritas afterward. Overall a good night.


Sparlmao

my deffo favourite scene was when they were making a fort with the animatronics (yes this is a real thing in the film) and the relationship abby had with the missing kids was adorable, even if they were trying to stuff her


BanzaitheBat

Afraid I just didn't like it. I was on board for the more character-focused story, but the reveal that Afton took Garrett feels super contrived. Why was Afton in Nebraska taking kids? Why was Afton killing kids at all? The "power of a child's drawing" ending beat was so dumb for me. It feels like the first two acts of the film set up a load of interesting ideas and none of them paid off. Sure, Mike learns to let go of the past and focus on connecting with Abby, but that isn't very interesting by itself. Which only makes it feel worse in retrospect because SO MUCH of the runtime is dedicated to the mystery of Garrett, and basically no time toward doing what Scott's FNAF has always done best - real atmospheric horror. I didn't feel tension at any point, at the start of every scene it feels like you know what's going to happen. It just doesn't do what makes FNAF great, and it doesn't do what makes character-focused stories great either. It doesn't do anything great. I don't like it


niles_deerqueer

My biggest issue is they don’t say why he’s doing it. But could be too complicated of a story to go into.


Dreknot

was it me or there is just no toreador song?


Tamagotchi-Sufferer

Okay, so did Jane actually die? Because if so, that’s so dumb. It’s unceremonious, especially for one of the film’s antagonists. Plus, it’s Mary Stuart FREAKING Masterson, an actual legend! They also never mention her again after that. If she did die, I’d expect Mike to bring it up at least at the end. All I’m saying is we better see her in the sequels OR we get an extended death scene for her in the deleted scenes. I loved the movie, but wow, that annoys me to no end.


AnusANNUSANNUSANNUS

To anyone who saw it, Do we see William get springlocked? and is it actually shown? or is it just shown through shadows like Scar's death in lion king


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the springlocking is in the movie, but it's not shown in all its gory glory. the movie handles it well though, fnaf was never really a franchise about blood and gore besides the 8-bit minigames


ItsMicstar

Doug was my favorite character, he just looked so traumatized the entire time he was on screen.


Flarelia

Had a mum in front of me with her kid in Full Monty Getup, when the >!Woman Got Decapitated!< she clearly didn’t know what the series was about. Kid was way into it though, good times all round.


BurntWhiteRice

I feel like there was so much build up of Matthew Lilliard only for the guy to get like five minutes of screen time.


SmearReddit

cant wait to see the matpat cameo in theaters on thursday


sudyaboy

I personally thought the movie was great, I was giddy and on the edge of my seat the whole way though. The only thing that bugged me was why so much footage was seemingly cut? There’s lots of footage from the trailers and security footage teaser that just didn’t appear. What happened to fixed Foxy and Shadow Freddy, the MCI news broadcast. Were these solely for marketing or what?