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eeshanzaman

Goodbye DRS, Welcome MOM. (manual override mode)


jonatroy

This is a great opportunity for his mum to tweet "Hello MOM mode"


NickThePask

Manual override mode mode


BiffSanchezz

Can only enter MOM mode with a PIN number


_i-cant-read_

we are all bots here except for you


Trnostep

Classic case of the RAS syndrome


mightyguacamole

aka PNS syndrome (personal identification number number syndrome syndrome)


hhs2112

Am I the only one who's going to say it?  Enter mom? Ewwww....  😂🤣


XsStreamMonsterX

That would be for the driver who's home race they're racing at that weekend, allowing Oscar to be adopted.


drs43821

At an ATM machine that uses RAID disks


BatKat58

1 2 3 4. It’s obvious.


SentientDust

Same number as my luggage!


OkieBobbie

No. It will be a subscription-based feature.


Live_Anteater_9173

lol out loud


jnf005

Smh my head.


R0nnyA

This occurence has a name!! RAS syndrome. Redundant acronym syndrome syndrome. . . Someone had fun coming up with that name.


Owain-X

Team Radio Driver: "What's the problem?" Engineer: Your MOM


Tinuva450

Yes, but she is Aussie and we say “mum”.


TheGoatGuyy

Well it could be the Manual *Under*ride Mode because Aus is upside down.


Genocode

Is his mother then Momster Piastri?


kestrel808

You activate mom mode by calling your mom and telling her that you love her


FavaWire

"MOM. I did a thing."


Ninthja

„And again Piastri activates his MOM!“


thubbard44

His MOM was good last night.  


alexotico

Dude the way he MOMed on George was clean


CreaminFreeman

George’s MOM’s got nothing on Oscar’s MOM!


drs43821

Nicole Piastri has the best F1 twitter rn


DubiousLLM

Nope, that’s separate. DRS alternative is called X-Mode lol.


lolKhamul

Depends on how you define DRS. DRS as in the open wings tool is now x-mode. But everyone can use it in the respective zones at all times no matter the distance to the car ahead. Basically like DRS in qualifying. DRS as the overtaking tool that is only given to the car 1 second behind other car is now MOM.


eeshanzaman

But like DRS, do we now have MOM zones 🤨? Or can MOM be activated any time, anywhere in lap (given the car infront is within 1 second)


lolKhamul

From what i read, its given for the entire lap. However i have no idea if it goes on "cooldown" after 1 lap if you didn't manage to overtake or whether its persistent (assuming you stay within the 1 sec). As for x-mode, i would assume every DRS zone is now an x-zone. Given it doesnt play a part in overtaking anymore, maybe even every straight.


ALOIsFasterThanYou

I’d assume like DRS, it’d be active as long as you stay within the margin—it’s not like DRS shuts off if you don’t make an overtake within a lap, after all. To me, the interesting thing would be whether the ERS is capable of recuperating enough energy to run in override mode for lap after lap without draining the battery.


lolKhamul

> To me, the interesting thing would be whether the ERS is capable of recuperating enough energy to run in override mode for lap after lap without draining the battery. I have a million questions but im not sure even the FIA knows yet. Like how much of MOM's design and power is even up to the team and how much is specified by the rules? Is it specified to add X mount of horsepower extra? Or will there be differences in how good the ones build by the engineers are? How will powershare work with the normal battery? How much will ERS be able to keep it going lap after lap? I dont think this is all clear as of now.


Randromeda2172

Isn't the manual override just an outlet for KERS?


A_WHALES_VAG

I would think it could persistent but it wont be because it's going to murder your battery and cost you laps down the line. That's my impression of it anyways. I also understood that either Aero mode can be used at any given time it's really up to the driver. But naturally mostly just on straights.


Benlop

Sound like you can choose to deploy anywhere, but it costs you energy, so you have to be mindful.


noisymime

> Or can MOM be activated any time The jokes just write themselves. They're going to need a new acronym before 2026.


Old-Nefariousness556

What does MOM actually do, if not open the wing?


jnighy

will keep calling it twitter


steve6027

that caught me off guard and made me laugh really hard


markhewitt1978

But you can use it whenever you want. It isn't the same as DRS today.


eeshanzaman

So it's like the KERS button that we used to have in 2011s


vtsxxl

In a way, but it's not for overtaking. All drivers can use it.


Benlop

Not really. DRS is an overtaking aid, X-mode isn't. The overtaking aid DRS is replaced by the overtaking aid Manual Override.


eeshanzaman

Wait what? I thought the override thing will give you more boost to overtake.


jonatroy

Yeah X Mode is aero, MOM is power boost.


poopellar

There's another mode that increases energy recovery Harvest Acceleration Manual System Turbo Energy Recovery Drivers are expected to pair that with X


FazeHC2003

HAMSTER


Ok-Replacement6893

Is there a Richard Hammond in every F1 car now?


moonboots_runner

They access this mode through a new interface on the steering wheel: The Power Output Rate Normalizer Hub


sicsche

I see what you did there lol


Sevenfest

Oh no


Pit_27

Idk why they have to make the naming more complicated. DRS is now X-mode and normal is Z-mode?? We already had DRS on or off


markhewitt1978

But you can use the silly named aero modes any time you fancy.


CoachDelgado

Because they're introduced a new concept so they need more names. Z/X mode is the state of the active aero, which seems like it's going to be switched between multiple times each lap. This is separate from the boost mode, which is used for overtaking. That's the DRS replacement, functionally; it just comes from the battery rather than moveable bodywork.


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CoachDelgado

Neither of the things I described are like KERS. There is some good energy recovery on these cars, but that’s not the boost mode.


Rivendel93

The announcers are going to love this, going to be a disaster trying to explain it to normal people.


Benlop

No, in the context of a race it's super simple. The overtaking aid is the Manual Override, which deploys more electrical power. X and Y mode is quite irrelevant to battling as both drivers will use it equally.


CandidLiterature

I’m pretty sure saying everyone is allowed to use DRS now is the simplest thing rather than giving it a stupid name. Drag Reduction System doesn’t say anything about overtaking or when it’s allowed or anything so don’t see why changing when you can use it would change its name that everyone is familiar with.


Benlop

People are familiar with DRS as an overtaking aid. Most people don't know what the acronym stands for. Going for a different name as you change the concept itself is a good thing and avoids any confusion. But given you're calling it "a stupid name", your reactionary opinion is already made up before even having given it a single thought so I'll leave it at that.


CandidLiterature

X mode is definitely a stupid name lol. Are they trying to make it exciting like Xtreme, X men or what? Max Verstappen is activating X mode… They could literally call it moving rear wing or keep the existing name. It’s like something from a child’s cartoon.


zaviex

Because DRS isn’t really a thing now. There is a low drag and high downforce mode. It will happen all the time.every lap. It won’t be focused on much as it’s not a differentiator now


EscortSportage

This


Brockelton

I figured that your MOM isnt about aero


DubiousLLM

Yeah there two modes to make pass. Manually activated mode for when the following car is close irrespective of the straights or corner. And x-mode the DRS alternates which opens the both front and rear wings on straights. E: look at other comments below for clarity.


vtsxxl

X mode is available for all drivers regardless of track position.


DubiousLLM

Ah cool. F1 video explains only on straights. https://imgur.com/Xo4cQOf


vtsxxl

Yes, only on straights, but track position is irrelevant. The car you're trying to pass can also use it.


DubiousLLM

Ah gotcha, thanks for the correction.


markhewitt1978

They did say there would be aero to allow for overtaking too. Then didn't elaborate.


MattyFTM

Going around corners you need downforce, so opening the wings doesn't make sense. On straights you want to reduce drag in order to increase your maximum speed, so you want open wings. I don't know whether they will physically limit X Mode to straights, or if they're just talking about straights because that is where it is useful.


naftalanga

Hello X-Mom


Tiirshak

Problem that most F1 fans say "mum".


somkiat_chantra_fan

man i love mom


Cuffuf

Forget the drivers, he’s about to become related to the car itself.


julesvr5

I hope Oscar won't have MOM issues


Andosand

Piastri's MOM has got it going on!


AsheronLives

"Charles, engage the Mom."


Emjeibi

In Australia we say mum.


DubiousLLM

Old context on Oscar’s and DRS relationship https://www.threads.net/@fray_f1/post/C74RU_SNQKj/


fameboygame

This needs to be on the top! Hilarious


Mahery92

How did I take so much time to find this lmao


rscarrab

Gold. Thanks for this. 🤣


Affectionate_Sky9709

If it works basically the same way, I bet at least some people will keep the term. It's ultimately still a drag reduction system, or at least that's a large portion of it.


freedfg

X and Y mode are most definitely still DRS. That's what they are. They are systems, that reduce drag. But DRS zones are gone, there will likely not be a graphic to indicate that it is open or not since it will be on nearly every straight. We WILL have MOM MODE and MOM ZONES


zantkiller

Other way round. [There will be zones for the X mode (But they will basically be every straight).](https://www.racefans.net/2024/06/06/z-mode-and-x-mode-how-formula-1s-new-active-aero-will-work-in-2026/) > “X-mode is our terminology for the low drag mode and that gives you your high top-speed,” Somerville explains. “That’s the state you’d be in when you’re on a straight or past exiting a corner. As you approach the braking zone, you’d then pop into Z-mode, which is where the downforce is required to get through braking and around the corner. > “So we have these two modes that would be set up in terms of zones around the lap, and the drivers would be able to switch between these two modes when permitted. There may be Sporting Regulations that, for example, prevent use in wet conditions, but otherwise we would expect the drivers to have access to both modes around the track for every lap.” There won't be any zone for MOM. [That will rely on you being within a given distance to the car in front as you finish the lap so as to unlock it for the following lap.](https://www.racefans.net/2024/06/06/drs-out-manual-override-mode-in-f1s-new-overtaking-aid-explained/) >MOM “works in a similar way to DRS,” Monchaux confirmed. “If you are within a given distance, before the end of a lap to the car in front of you, then for the following lap, you will be given the possibility to use more electrical energy than your opponent." But MOM will only give an advantage above 290kph so unless you have a bunch of highspeed corners, you are only really gonna get the advantage on the straight anyway.


freedfg

Oh it's LAP based? So it's literally Kers but you only get it if you're close enough?


zantkiller

KERS was more in addition to your power output. You could activate it as long as you were above 100kph and you would get a boost relative to someone who did not. Here it is about the electrical power tailing off as you go down the straights and the override mode means it tails off later. [Below 290kph, power output is the same](https://i.imgur.com/eIpIrc5.png) so there is no difference.


freedfg

I say fuck it. Bring back kers but let it ride on when it's used. I wanna see Nando park it on an apex and take off like a rocketship.


aaaaaaadjsf

With the low drag given the active aerodynamics, and the massive amount of electrical power available, these cars are going to hit 290kph pretty quickly, likely quicker than current F1 cars if they are not traction limited. But when overtake mode is off, they'll struggle to go much faster than 300kph given the electric power restrictions. But with overtake mode on, the new cars are just going to keep accelerating all the way up to 350kph. There's likely going to be some huge speed differentials at the end of long straights, but acceleration at the beginning and middle of the straight will be equal for both the overtaking car and defending car. I guess this is to try force the drivers to make an overtaking move in the braking zone, and not in the middle of the straight, as we've seen so many times with DRS.


ubelmann

It seems to me that MOM will be easier to calibrate from track-to-track than DRS currently is. With DRS, you are really limited by the configuration of the track as to how long the zones can be, how many zones you can have, and even the activation line can be tricky -- with some activation lines governing the next two consecutive DRS zones. With MOM, there will be some limitation on how much energy the cars can regen per lap, but aside from that, in theory you could change the deployment level of MOM from track to track -- maybe on tracks where it is especially hard to follow, you could increase the MOM deployment and for tracks where it's easier to follow, you could reduce it. Plus they could potentially change the following distance necessary to activate MOM from track to track. Now that I think about it, the 1-second DRS range is arguably too rigid. They could change that threshold from track-to-track. It seems like the impact from dirty air would be different from track to track, so that at a track where the dirty air is especially difficult to deal with, you might want a bigger DRS range (say 1.5 seconds) so that it's harder for the leader to use the clean air to get out of DRS range by the time DRS is activated. But increasing it to 1.5 seconds would make it easier to have DRS trains, so maybe sticking with 1 second is best. I would guess they've simulated different thresholds, but also the fact that it is an even one second makes me wonder how hard they worked to optimize that number.


The_Bucket_Of_Truth

I hate this. It's like Mario Kart. Can they really not find a way to have cars race competitively without giving the car behind an artificial boost?


Deynai

There are some things in this universe that sound deceptively simple but are impossible. You can't square a circle, you can't make anything move faster than light, and you can't make trailing f1 cars race competitively without mario kart mechanics.


Blitz2134_

Without any overtaking aid, racing is going to be absolute shit. Everybody thinks that smaller and lighter cars like those from the early 2000s will make for great racing, probably all of them think of Mika's iconic pass on Micheal. But watch any of those races, all the overtaking happened off track in refuelling stops, and it was absolutely crap for racing. We all like to shit on DRS, but if you look at how extremely dreadful 2010 was in terms of action on track action, you'll realise that some overtaking aid is essential for any sort of on track action. And I feel, manual override mode is going to be a way better and way more consistent overtaking aid than DRS. Let the cars race once before we all collectively shit on them.


Rivendel93

Crofty is literally dying to make this joke right now.


ForsakenRacism

So are passes in the Monaco tunnel on now?


Lord-Liberty

It will only be called DRS as long as the commentators keep using the term. When it changes, everyone else will change it too. Look how everyone calls the Red Bull junior team "VCARB" now even after despising the name when it was first announced.


SafeIntention2111

Commentators didn't choose that term, they were told to use VCARB instead of RB. They talked about it on the broadcast when it happened.


jonatroy

The RB logo changed to VCARB at some point (I think China?) which is precisely when the commenters switched from reliably calling them RB to reliably calling them VCARB. I'm guessing Visa complained to RBR. I think the announcers react, we'll know for sure in Bahrain 2026 when we see the little DRS signs at the detection points.


Benlop

Oh, the commentators themselves weren't too shy saying they had literally been asked to.


Alpha_Jazz

Serious throwback for Piastri fans here


Blze001

This is his way of saying”die in a fire and never come back” I suspect.


SoothedSnakePlant

I mean, the replacement is far more gimmicky.


Blze001

True, but Piastri has personal bad-blood with the DRS system specifically.


neanderball

I'm ootl then, what's it in reference to?


cathal1k97

Essentially his whole F2 season was plagued with DRS issues, replacing the entire DRS system on his car and it would still be broken for the next race. Still managed to wipe the floor with the rest of that years drivers which is the most impressive piece


Alpha_Jazz

F3 2020 actually


cathal1k97

Then it was both f3 and f2 which makes it even worse


neanderball

Lol damn that's crazy, Oscar is a legend


steve6027

Oscar is literally OP


HarshangLad

Look Mom, no DRS


FazeHC2003

I have MOM now


saposapot

Even if the effects are the same it seems DRS has the major advantage of being a visible thing fans can spot on TV.


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The same will be true with active aero, when both the rear- and now frontwing open up on the straights, except it's for every driver and not limited to certain zones, as far as I understood. So in a sense it's not leaving, it's becoming more of how a car normally works. But yeah, the extra battery power is not visible, unless one of the new lights is acting as a visible indicator upon activation.


Splatter1842

Time to slap some LEDs to the HALO.


Benlop

I believe having additional lights to indicate ERS state is part of the project.


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Neat!


Blitz2134_

I think it's better to not have any indication of whether a car is using manual override mode or not. DRS with the flap opening up makes it look like the overtake is artificially engineered. Even if MOM is also artificial, I'd rather not have any visual indication of that and assuage myself that it isn't so artificial.


ubelmann

I guess, but usually I am looking at the intervals on the timing graphic to see how close they are to getting DRS anyway. Since it is a lap-by-lap effect, they could maybe have a small indicator on the timing graphic (like they do for fastest lap) to indicate if a car has MOM activated.


Mahery92

It's ok they'll probably put some LEDs on the halo like in formula E or something


Mahery92

Oscar's public engagement is insane haha, the kid is just too likeable


MountainEquipment401

'His mom's wide open down the straight...' 'No cars can match verstappens red bull when his mum's active...' yeah we're going to have some wonderful out of context moments...


FerrariStrategisttt

He is celebrating tonight


timelessblur

Taking bets on how long until DRS gets added right back in along with MOM


zantkiller

Short of ejecting [the rear wing off like your Kimi at Hockenheim 2004](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJ2rS5ZTck), there will be no drag to reduce with the active aero engaged so you won't be able to reduce it anymore.


charles_peugeot405

Damn, you weren’t kidding when you said ejected


ErrorCode51

Both the front and rear wings will already be open anyway so idk how you are gonna reduce even more drag


shutinlear53

Take the wings off and party like it was 1960


ALOIsFasterThanYou

There was some talk of forcing cars less than a second ahead of another to run in high-drag mode (Z-mode in FIA-speak) even on the straights, which thankfully didn’t amount to anything. But I could see them considering it if the current rules don’t work out.


Xelent43

I love this man


bwoah07_gp2

As someone who has watched F1 since 2018 and all I've seen is the DRS era cars, I'm nervous this may backfire on them. But they are the experts after all... Will they be able to use manual override anywhere on a given lap, rather than specific DRS zones? Because if so, that'll be a vast improvement.


zantkiller

You will only be able to use it when you are within a given distance before the end of the lap at which point you will be able to use for the following lap. But...The manual override will only give any benefit when you are above 290kph. [Below 290kph, there is no difference in power output between normal and the override mode.](https://i.imgur.com/eIpIrc5.png) So the advantage will only be on straights and for some straights, only really right at the end of the straight. For the sections which have short straights with DRS (Think the second one at Melbourne or Hungary) it is a negative because in the past you would have DRS where as now you are unlikely to get any benefit. For the sections which have long straights with no DRS (Think the straight before the last corner at Bahrain) it is a positive as you will get above 290kph and therefore the override mode where as currently you wouldn't have any DRS.


Blackdeath_663

This will be so much better. DRS was inherently very unpopular and an inelegant brute force way of dealing with overtaking issues. It was always the view that in time we wouldn't have to use it. I feel like the 2026 reg will provide for more dynamic situations as the teams manage battery charge rather than an endless drs train


Walmartpancake

So what is difference DRS and the new tech?


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DRS, as in the rear-wing opening up, will be replaced by "active aero", which is two different modes drivers can use to either open or close their rear and front wing manually. Open on straights like DRS or close for downforce to take corners. And everyone will be able to use it, not only the following car, so it's not an overtake-assist anymore. Instead, drivers who follow behind get a new battery power boost that is only available when you are close enough/ try to overtake.


Walmartpancake

1. Drivers have to choose open their rear or front and not both? 2. I heard that the active aero makes the car undrivable (or similar to that)


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1. As far as I understood the new regulations, they open both wings at the same time. The new info calls it "X-mode" and "Z-mode". Confusing, I know. But it seems to be basically "open-wings mode" and "closed-wings mode". 2. I haven't heard of that, sorry. But I wouldn't be surprised if the drivers/ simulations need to adjust to it first.


Walmartpancake

Ahh I see, thanks


xLeper_Messiah

On your second point the complaints about undriveable cars was back when they were testing cars that only had active aero on the rear wings, but not the front So when they would activate it in the sims the aero balance would shift drastically to the front causing the rear of the car to become incredibly unstable, even on straights


Kako0404

Didn't know that the changes were this drastic beyond the PU changes. The 2023 Reg made the cars look very different from their predecessor but the racing DNA was much the same. No wonder Max is being vocal about it.


FazeHC2003

Huh ?


dl064

2027: hello DRS my old friend.


bipolarcyclops

I’ve come to open up for you again.


ADP10_1991

Going to be honest, thought he died at first


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MrDaniel95

They added the new systems because the cars can't recover enough energy to deploy for a full lap. The new regs remove the MGU-H, so the car can't recover as much energy as they used to, and since they want it to be 50/50 between thermal power and electrical power, the only solution is to reduce as much as possible the drag of the cars.


HairyNutsack69

The front car can't use MOM to engage more battery


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HairyNutsack69

Ah ok then I misunderstood what you were referencing.  I guess it aids efficiency not having such drag on the straights.


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explorer_pro

Oscar uses MOM(mode) against Charle Leclerc


Ofiotaurus

Manual override mode mode


BoliveiraNTPW

2027: DRS RETURNS!


Purity_Jam_Jam

Goodbye fabricated overtaking.


banned_salmon

wait what


VictoriaBCSUPr

His old tweets about drs (2019? 2020?) were hilarious! I also actually didn't know F2/F3 also had DRS.


FazeHC2003

2020/2021 (if my memory serves right) cause he had issues in both F2 and F3


Yung_Chloroform

Goodbye DRS, hello MOM!


golfalien

Surely we will just come to refer to it as “MO”


Glitch7779

He’s one of the funniest and talented drivers nowadays


DepecheModeFan_

Why is everyone saying DRS is going away ? it's not going anywhere, in fact there's going to be more DRS since the front wing will move on straights too. It's just not going to be used for the same purpose.


Mahery92

Seems to me DRS as a mechanism to facilitate overtake is going away; active aero will be usable to everyone in any situation. Instead, its actual replacement will be the power boost in a push to pass like alternative


DepecheModeFan_

The power boost is actually a good idea imo, because you can't constantly use it to stay within a second like with DRS, because you'd run out of energy, so to stay within a second of a car ahead, you actually have to consistently be at their pace with sustainable energy usage. So it should hopefully reduce the number of trains and open things up a bit.


SpaceStethoscope

[Oscar Piastri via X-mode (formelly known as Twitter-mode)]


PedroGabrielLima13

Mark verstapin mazepin > Charles lirc, Noris, H ae m iļton