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TeTeOtaku

Guys we've been waiting for this FOR A LOOOONG TIME


Kreygasm2233

Max with his elbows out is a different beast We 2021 again


Homework_Successful

Lewis to Lando: insert first time? meme here.


LosTerminators

Would've been perfect full circle if Lewis was the one running in 3rd and had inherited the win.


RayneShikama

That’d have been beautiful. Give a little wave as he goes by Max lol


phoebe3936

I was thinking “I bet Lando has a lot of empathy for Lewis right now”


Lemurians

Now for Lando to have his Silverstone moment


BigLubeSqueezyTube

A dirty one that's for sure. The guy refuses to yield.


patweck

Max "yield or we both crash" Verstappen


Queenager

I turn now. Good luck everyone else


noodle_attack

Or doesn't turn (2021 Brazil)


poopellar

NFS lobby irl


illuwe

Learned a thing or two from uncle Schumy


Adler4290

> "yield or we both crash" .. is a well-known Senna trait too and Schumi learned it from him. Brundle said it too in multiple interviews.


Jaevyn

People tend to forget that about Senna. You took your life in your hands if you tried to pass him sometimes.


colinisthereason

Prost.


Cheaperthantherapy13

I was yelling at my TV “Prost and Senna!!! We’ve got a Prost and Senna!!!” And my SO thought I’d totally lost my mind. The double tap was fucking ice cold. Lando is getting under Max’s skin and it’s DELICIOUS.


zzackfair

He saw Norris there, then thought to himself- "I'm going to turn anyway", turned in and ruined Norris' race and he got some points himself. It's the same as 2021 and people were calling Lewis out for being overly aggressive. Max is an incredible driver, but you need to be as aggressive as Max to overtake him. He won't give you any other way.


MrSam52

Silverstone was Lewis saying fuck it and refusing to yield as he had been for most of the season before then. Max is praised as aggressive but his driving style is just put his car somewhere where the drivers either crash or the other one pulls out. Most drivers prefer not to crash so they pull out and he gains or keeps a place. All the talk of him maturing as a driver is clearly bullshit he’s exactly the same just he’s been able to drive off into the distance most of the past few years without needing to fight. It’s good when drivers don’t pull out as it’s the only way he actually gets any punishment for it.


Miserable_Archer_769

Did they change the rule? I know the issue use to be that he would technically late break to be ahead through the braking zone meaning by the letter of the law the other car has to concede. The issue was his line is basically impossible to hold unless there isn't another car or it completely bails. I think the first time they called that was on Lewis a year or so ago where they reviewed the telemetry and called him on it


schfourteen-teen

It was hilarious hearing Max complain that "dive-bombing the corner is not the way to pass". Like, dude, do you know yourself?


Competitive_News_385

I laughed when I heard it. Really? *That's* what you are going to go with.


BigLubeSqueezyTube

With the moves he pulled in the tail end of '21, he has some cheek to say such words.


Actual_Sympathy7069

The man's been lacking self awareness for a long time


PrawilnaMordka

Only yesterday I I've seen comment that Max is more calm and mature since winning first WDC. But it's easy to be composed when you don't have to fight wheel to wheel. Today he showed that he is same Verstappen from 2021 and before.


Fickle-Cricket

That was 2018-ish Max, when he couldn't pass or defend without crashing for so long that he threatened to headbutt the next reporter who asked him why he couldn't stop crashing into people.


highlandpooch

Have we? This was classic max of a few years ago before his car got unbeatable


ThePhotoGuyUpstairs

Yeah it's like everyone forgot how the guy drives when he's not 20+ seconds out in front.


FredNasr

I said in 2021 that because he ended up winning the championship, his behaviour is validated. If he lost the title a race before (like when he pushed Lewis off track in Brazil), he would maybe learn that he can't do these moves. Instead, he got away with it in 21 and had a dominant car so he just thinks this is how you win.


North-Ad8730

This has always been Max. The second it's an equal fight he's right back to his shady driving. Moving under braking, multiple moves, and running cars off the track.


zaviex

If the stewards just penalized him correctly it would be okay. He would have been carrying one from the first move under braking and we wouldn’t have gotten the crash most likely. They need to actually enforce the rules before a stupid crash not after. That was not just racing wheel to wheel it’s just blocking lol. Which he continued to do even after they’d crashed and gotten punctures 


Miserable_Archer_769

This 100% I told my wife this is going to get ugly if the stewards don't call him for double moves and there were 2 today that were down right blatant. Lando was getting pisssed and you could hear it on the radio. But it tells Norris that if the Stewards won't call it and he can defend like that I basically have to get hyper aggressive and send it.


North-Ad8730

Exactly! Right out of his old playbook. Late moves, double moves under braking, and running cars off the track. In a straight fight, he will never fight fair.


WingedGundark

And if F1 rewards him with only 10 sec penalties when he takes a competitor out, he will continue to race in similar fashion. He won’t change, because there really is no reason to.


Lindkvist15

You mean like Silverstone 21? At least here Max also got punished.


Casual_ahegao_NJoyer

We got it in 2021


Chelseatilidie

Pure cinema


Fugacity-

Especially after Lando dive bombed Max a lap or two prior. What a finish


Appropriate_Plan4595

I loved Max's "That's not how you overtake" when Norris pulled Max's signature "divebomb so your front axle reaches the apex first and force the other driver to never be able to turn in" move


SpotTheOzzie

Literally the exact same move, on the exact same corner Verstappen put on Leclerc a few years back. Except Verstappen actually physically punted him off for the win.


ollie87

My words exactly watching it “well that’s how you normally overtake mate”.


xzElmozx

We just didn’t hear the end of the sentence, the radio got cut off “That’s not how you overtake…that’s how I overtake”


FalconIMGN

Max even said it multiple times, 'Either we crash or you let me through'. That's how he has always driven.


jrjreeves

Max 2021


LosTerminators

That was exactly how Max passed Charles in 2019


AleHitti

Verstappen is still 17 secs ahead of Perez... How?


Ok_Lavishness_9645

Yeah, gets puncture and limps back to pits, another 10 second penalty and still finishes infront, Perez needs to improve quickly


themenace117

He's needed to improve quickly since last year when he wasn't making it to Q3. He's had more time than any other red bull driver who's had poor form to turn it around.


Gentare

Remember when Red Bull was this ruthless team who wasn't afraid to cut underperforming drivers at a moment's notice?


Ashdown

Perez brings the money


ShawnShipsCars

Wait, Perez was racing this weekend??? Haven't seen him


aamgdp

Ye, had had a fierce battle with Haas for position


Dear_Jurisprudence

And lost


ShawnShipsCars

Add 2 more years to his contract


Marzet

I saw some post saying he had a damaged side pod?


slasher_dib

And a 5 sec pit stop. (I think it was 5)


WorthPlease

He's 34 and just signed a 2 year contract. He's not going to improve and doesn't need to.


Spraynpray89

That's the funniest part about this


lufestre

Max-Lando bromance is cancelled.


MadMonk6

It is bound to end. You can’t be competing for race wins/WDC in relatively equal cars and expect that you will be friends. The amount of shenanigans you need to pull to beat a close competitor doesn’t leave much room for sentiment. That’s why I love Nico’s 2014 Monaco qualifying shenanigans.


SamuraiSpartan6

You knew this was gonna happen


swfcb

After Norris win it was just a matter of time, because he wants to repeat it and Max doesn't want to let that happen. Next races will be fun.


MarsupialJones

You could see it coming for like 5 laps or more. Lando just throwing it in from way back and Max moving all over. Seemed inevitable 


Yetanotherdeafguy

That VSC could have deprived Piastri of his first GP win


Wootstapler

Totally. 2seconds to George and looked to be closing but it neutered any shot.


67PCG

He wasn't closing much after George passed the traffic ahead (which he was sat behind in the wrong part of the track).


pHrankee1

Seriously ..wat was the point of that vsc. Did they even clean any debris durin that?


Amphiscian

They said pit lane closed too. I dont think there were any shots of the result, but we saw a slow-mo of Lando's tire ripping the rest of the car to shreds as he was going down the pit lane. Could have been from that?


coocoobees

friendship is dead


laboulaye22

I'm actually so interested to see if they can continue to fight like this on track and stay friendly off track. I would normally say no.


casualnihilist91

No. As soon wins and titles are up for grabs the friendship is over.


datdanksauce

"Titles" is ambitious of you. Max still has the better car and is ahead by around 80 points. I think Max'll still win the title, but it won't be by as much of a gap as 2023.


casualnihilist91

There’s a lot of races to go. Yeah big gap but all it takes is a car issue for Max and a win for Lando, more podiums etc


F9-0021

Two DNFs for Max, with 2 wins for Lando and Lando is still over a full GP's worth of points behind. It's asking for a lot to close the gap.


noodle_attack

If they race fairly maaaaybe, after today no chance in hell


shoppingguy7

I was waiting for that moment when someone’s else challenges Verstappen and bring out his aggressive side.


cumofdutyblackcocks3

Rosberg Hamilton level of friendship break


kavinay

lol, no friendly flight back to Monaco tonight


daanluc

Honestly I don’t know how you can stay friends with a direct rival. I couldn’t. In the end everyone is an egoist.


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TheDejectedEntourage

Pretty sure that was Ted


TopOfTheKey

FIA letting them get away with way too much. Incredible for entertainment, terrible for both teams.


LosTerminators

Max did get a penalty, but ironically he won't lose any positions due to it


hjhof1

Dude had a puncture, extra stop, 10 sec penalty and still beat Checo lol


redsoxaa

Looks like it’s time to tack on another 2 years to Perez’s contract


CapitalistPear2

Perez actually has a bet he made with horner where he gets an extra year for every lap down he finishes


scullys_alien_baby

checo got beat by a haas, wild


RoRid46

By 25 seconds 🙃


UnreliableCarsAreFun

He will gain in the championship if anything zeroing our Norris points


SirLoremIpsum

And Norris will be further impacted cause his time penalty will be served as grid drop for next GP too no....? Just win win for Max


jimbobjames

Depends if team waited before working on the car


CallM3N3w

But what does that 5s convert to? 3 Place? I noticed they waited a bit before retiring, maybe they technicly served it?


AmidoBlack

Should’ve been penalized during the fight, and forced to give the place back. Instead they let him go unscathed until he literally causes a crash and retirement


I_Eat_Cat_Poop

And norris track limit penalty should have been applied instantly. What is there to investigate. Could have avoided all this


water_tastes_great

Everyone could see something was coming with the way Verstappen moved under braking earlier. Silence from the stewards leads to the driver behind getting frustrated, and the driver in front feeling emboldened.


SkyGecko19

Even Lando and (probably) Max knew they would crash, the stewards do really suck, this one is tottaly on them.


Classic-Ad-6903

Just throw talks about driver safety out the window, none of the stewards had safety on their mind.


cs-shitposter

If they investigated Max's previous 3 instances of moving under braking on Lando, this wouldn't be an issue


unitedfuck

Didn't they literally put in a new rule because of his defending antics and yet he's the only one who never gets called up for it? Hilarious but expected from the FIA.


ElectroByte15

They also removed that extra rule again after Vettel got penalized with it.


MeisterHeller

Hey they're not inconsistent this year, they're just "setting new precedent", right up until the next time it happens, and they'll set another new precedent!


SWSIMTReverseFinn

That‘s 2021 Verstappen.


hack-a-shaq

2021 Verstappen never left, Red Bull’s gap to the rest of the field just increased for a few years


Ruuubs

It happens every time a driver gets a top car/loses it: "\*Current Dominant Car Driver\* is just metronomic, they never make mistakes, they're the best driver ever unlike \*Previous Top Car Driver\*, who's making loads of mistakes and was just being carried by the car"


zaviex

Yep. The cycle of life and death continues 


DarkKnight56722

Everyone’s been saying “oh max is so much more mature now”. When in reality, max has had the fastest car since at least midway through 2022 with only a handful of outliers, and his teammate has basically never been a threat to him. Knowing you have the championship locked up only a few races into the season definitely gives you a different mentality. Multiple times now we’ve seen that as soon as max comes under real threat again, he loses his cool and the old max shows up.


vprakhov

Yep. He's still ruthless and greedy to get every single race win he can. He just doesn't have to fight for it 95% of the time.


LosTerminators

This is the most he has been pushed since the literal war with Lewis at the end of 2021


ssavvo

and maybe Brazil 2022 also against Lewis :D


xzElmozx

>Thats ~~2021~~ Verstappen


domi1108

That Max never left we just rarely saw him because he drove a spaceship.


Tocky22

Drove a spaceship very well to be fair.


Crafty_Substance_954

That’s 2015-2021 Verstappen


jbaird

that's 2015-2024 Versappen


Xamuel1804

Basically Max when he is struggling


xXCzechoslovakiaXx

Has to race hard for the lead one time, returns to 2021


VosPaco

Think the blame has to lie with Max here right?


Hack874

Yes totally. However if the stewards weren’t literally the sloths from Zootopia the penalties would have already been given out and this wouldn’t have happened


SHARK_QUASAR

I agree, they take years to arrive to a decision. I swear if they didn't crash, they would come to a decision after the race.


Lutzelien

Commentators were saying it, they need to make decisions quick and not 2 hours after the race. This could've been avoided. Glad it didn't, but it could've


FelixEvergreen

I’m convinced they want to know what the impact of the penalty will be before they issue them.


tehbamf

I thought it was 100% on him when I saw it live. When viewing this a second time.. it’s still on Max but somewhat less egregious. He is kind of drifting to the left to get a better exit, while still ahead, left plenty of room for Norris. Definitely crowded him but not off the track.  Post contacted obviously he swerved left when his tire blew but that’s out of his control. Penalty, sure, but not reckless as some commenters make out.


kevinbuso

100%


AuContraireRodders

FIA caused this by not acting immediately with warnings/minor penalties. They let it boil over into this. Worst stewarding in years


nelsonbestcateu

When have they ever taken swift action?


BenAlexanders

FFS. This is what indecision looks like. It was coming the laps beforehand, and every time the stewards can't rule on it,  it empowers the defende4 to do it again, and frustrates the attacker. Compounding that, the penalty was worthless. What use is a toothless penalty in this situation. 


TMyriadJ

Too slow on both sides. Norris was clearly out of track after the divebomb but they're only "investigating". Verstappen moving under braking 3 times before the crash and nothing from the stewards. Spineless. I bet they're waiting in handing out warnings/penalties to make the 2 battling cars fight to the end and then deliver the penalties.


TheLifeofSonny

friendship over, folks get your wallets out for the PPV between Max and Lando


providencegg

Verstappen got Verstappen'ed by Norris and Verstappen'ed Norris after that


liberalindianguy

So far it’s only Leclerc that has raced Max for the lead without crashing.


Affectionate-Cat-546

Difference is Max knows leclerc is similar to him, he is not afraid to be taken out of the race. Case in point austria and silverstone 2019. Likes of Lewis and now Lando had yielded to him often, hence the bullying(lack of better word). Leclerc doesn’t back down and max knows it so he’d rather avoid it.


mongande

atleast leclerc does manuvers properly. W leclerc


kjm911

Verstappen moving under braking… I’m shocked I tell you


ramtbb

Its incredible that in order to overtake Verstappen u have to crash with him


DrVonD

Lewis is going to go talk to Norris after and go “I feel you bro”


CouchPoturtle

I hope they ask Lewis about it in his interview and he lets rip


teratron27

They’re getting matching “we hate Max” tattoos


tedstery

Some sage Lewis advice to Lando is needed here for how to deal with Max.


What_the_8

Old max comin back!


Sound-Of-The-Drums

Incident definitely on Max, but the stewards could have done a lot better: Not policing any double moving before that. Being delayed on the track limits penalty that would have made that move/defence obsolete anyway.


CrazyRah

Might've been avoided if stewards weren't snoring away


womblingfree

Lewis to Lando: First time?


Agreeable-Resist8346

This would not have happened if stewards handed out penalties correctly. Lando should have got a penalty for track limits and Max should have got penalty for moving under braking.


AHrice69

Don’t let this distract you from Perez getting beaten by a hass


Nexusu

This will be this seasons crucial moment What the fuck just happened Max really went „aight you ain’t PASSING no matter what”


DrVonD

Won’t affect this season much tbh. But if Norris starts consistently fighting max at the front (like next year) this will set the stage.


iForgotMyOldAcc

Squeezed Norris even when his puncture was already solidified lol Black Knight energy


DrVonD

Yeah the turn 3 stuff was expected, but the squeeze onto the grass with the puncture was some real “oh he’s MAD mad” energy.


PjMoto

The double tap, always double tap.


four_four_three

Even with a broken car he still forces others off the track


hack-a-shaq

100% on Max. Lando was on the white line on the left, Max moved under braking (his signature move) and created the contact.


ZonedV2

He’s had no one close to him for so long I feel like we’ve forgot how reckless he can be while defending


ddthrow1233

yeah that was just stupid, got annoyed and drove into him


KappaccinoNation

Would rather cause a crash than lose P1. Truly the next Schumacher.


Bacon_Boobies

With a sprinkle of Senna


poopellar

If you don't go for a crash...


cs-shitposter

A lot of us didn't forget, we all know how Max is


TehAlpacalypse

Brazil 2021 ass move


lux_travlh44

2021 ass move period lol


DrVonD

“But he’s changed!!” Yeah it’s way easier when you have so much pace on everyone else.


Icommentoncrap

Got a 10 second penalty so yeah lol


sigsimund

Classic stewards giving a penalty the second it no longer matters. Cowards


Chesey_

Which drops him from 5th to 5th for stopping another driver winning a race, yeah, Max is back


Jaraxo

Moving right again on the next straight to block the overtake was worse imo. He was pissed and tried to block it when damaged.


guyeertoen

I'm clearly in the minority but it seems more like he wanted to move off the racing line with the damage, and was distracted trying to figure out what to do. We need an onboard to see if he checked his mirrors. If not, I lean towards that not being intentional.


Bigdongergigachad

Max hates it when people race like him


AmidoBlack

Max has been double moving the entire fight with no repercussions, and then wasn’t forced to give the place back to Lando when he ran off, like they did with Lando. All of this could’ve been avoided


jpayney

When he's put under pressure he goes back to the old Max pretty quickly


starlevel01

You mean Verstappen did the thing Norris was complaining about for laps? I'm shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.


Pipette43

Moving under breaking again


Visionary_Socialist

That was always going to end that way. Max not being called back for doing that, and he was desperate and under pressure. Was going to be a crash.


Castlelightbeer

Funny seeing them look at the replay.  They knew what was coming


Craigos-Maximus

Even after all that Max is on the radio to Red Bull saying about how Lando was at fault 😂


wrdb2007

Max moved left on a right hander hairpin - squeezed out Lando


JadeNoodlesOfficial

this contact was a long time coming. just what happens when they’re within tenths for so many laps around here.


Tocky22

That’s my thoughts too. Could feel it coming. When you have 2 great drivers racing at the edge, it’s not surprising that they go over the line sometimes.


L0RDG3N0M

That is definitely on Verstappen but its not as bad as people make it out to be. I'm actually surprised neither driver tried to avoid the first contact there. I suspect Norris did not notice Verstappen making the small correction to the left before he pulled alongside and Verstappen just did not expect Norris moving into that space. Looks very similar to a lot of first lap/corner incidents and in the end is also a bit unlucky to result in a puncture.


TatersTot

Definitely moving under braking lol


TrowaB3

This one is clearly on Max, but Lando had 2 bad dives before this moment as well. Was looking like ending in a collision for a while now.


Stouty4567

Yeah penalties should’ve been dished out sooner but honestly I’ve been expecting this. As soon as they had even cars I figured it would come to this


crazyclue

Ya this was my take as well. Lando started shaking the hornets nest but wasn't fast enough to actually run away. Incident was looming big time


BilboMuggins

What was Max doing? Moving twice to cause a collision, just to prove a point?


Weird_Treacle_8282

“Either I win or we both lose”


DannyTheElfman

Except Max did technically win. His points gap to P2 has now increased. If Norris won it would have decreased. This was possibly the best outcome for Max, barring any penalties for either driver


ThePhotoGuyUpstairs

It's the "Senna" approach that everyone quotes and gets excited about. Just taken to the nth degree.


Fickle-Cricket

Welcome to the last 9 years of his career?


xz-5

Lewis: Lando, meet the real Max.


Camnelo

There's fairly little in it really, Max squeezes Lando a bit too much and both of them are pretty unlucky with the resulting damage.


brush85

Welcome to racing against Max, Lando. Good luck


Xaniss

They never do anything about max being reckless until AFTER something happens I swear, and the 10 second penalty is meaningless too.


ddthrow1233

does max just steer into him?


CommissarRaziel

Moving under braking all the way to the corner and squeeze wide. Horrid driving tbh


PMurBoobsDoesntWork

I think we all forgot how Max used to defend after all these years of domination.


PoliceMachine

Max things


kevanions

Pérez finished behind a Haas.


NoEconomist4

I am always surprised when people say 2021 Max is no more. Like have you seen him drive when his car isn't dominant like Brazil 2022, Singapore 2022 That's how he'll resort to win when his car isn't the most dominant. Love it or hate it. How funny Max Verstappen of all people complaining about divebombing.


MBP15-2019

His had me dead when HE was complaining about divebombing. Haha


UnreliableCarsAreFun

Mad Max reminding everyone how he got his nickname.


T3rbium

This was just Verstappen sending a big "don't f*ck with me" message to Norris. Of course he was at fault and he knows it. Unfortunately Norris not being exactly clever and the stewards doing nothing until it's too late made this possible.


CuriousPumpkino

This goes out to all the people talking about how “yeah max likes norris but doesn’t respect him as a driver” (fuckin ‘ell f1twt is stupid as hell); Here’s vintage max back. The “I’d rather crash than get overtaken” max. The domestic terrorism max. He has something to lose again