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He'd ask to go long at Mclaren too and they'd say no- remember Hungary where he wanted to go straight from the medium to the soft and skip the (terrible) hards?
I get it- they try to get him out of DRS trains and into clean air, the car sucks at close following and overtaking but races good in clean air. They’ve just haven’t done it right / tyres haven’t worked or the race flags etc have screwed them
I get it- they try to get him out of DRS trains and into clean air, the car sucks at close following and overtaking but races good in clean air. They’ve just haven’t done it right / tyres haven’t worked or the race flags etc have screwed them
This is the kind of race he seemed to put together a lot at Renault - stopping early for undercuts and track position, then stretching the extra laps out of the following stints without melting the tyres. Shame for him that Haas were able to do it just that little bit better, but good signs from the upgrades.
I get it- they try to get him out of DRS trains and into clean air, the car sucks at close following and overtaking but races good in clean air. They’ve just haven’t done it right / tyres haven’t worked or the race flags etc have screwed them
Seriously underrated drive. Long last stint and held off a faster alpine on mediums for a long while. Again showing how important experience can be. Would have got Kevin with another lap to. Couple of points really important with haas getting a bag today as well.
Three great weekends on the bounce, this chatter about him being "under pressure" is just divorced from reality. He's really been cooking lately, absolutely no reason for him to be going anywhere.
I got flamed yesterday because I said Alonso is more deserving of losing his F1 spot due to how he has performed lately. People on reddit don’t watch the races.
Honestly, there is a slight difference.
Alonso was performing consistently well before now
Daniel had just had his worst 3 years in the sport.
It's easier for a reason in a sudden drop of form to be believed that for a reason when the driver was underwhelming for 2.5 seasons prior.
3 years? He had one bad year at McLaren and everyone leaps to 3 years. Last year at AT was fine as a comeback and dealing with a hand injury, even had a P7 in the slowest car on the grid. He had a win at McLaren in 2021… stop with this hyperbole. Alonso hasn’t had a win since 2013 and has been mid for most of his time at AM minus early last year when the car was good.
He was supposed to absolutely crush him? Dude he’s the second best driver in the sport. Yes he got beat but it wasn’t Verstappen Perez, they finished P6 and P8 respectively splitting the Ferrari drivers. The car that year the 4th best and the rhetoric is overblown. Every race win he has had has been with the 3rd and 4th best car on the grid.
Norris 2nd best driver in the sport? Definitely not I'd rate George, Hamilton, leclarc and Max over him 9 times out of 10. Lando is very quick driver as good as the others but he seems to do rookie mistakes fairly often when it matters.
If you just look at the Red Bull group of drivers and say who deserves to be in a car right now the least, it has to be Checo. The only reason there is any chatter is Helmut justifying his job and cause they prematurely resigned Checo.
Seriously. Danny Ric has supposedly been teetering on the edge of losing his seat all season, and personally I wouldn't at all be surprised if you swapped him and Perez and he performed more consistently in the Red Bull.
I think ricc has been better than a lot of people like to say, but acting like Alonso doesn't belong anymore because of a few races when the car is total dogshit is actually insane.
Is it though? He’s taking a spot from a rookie… that’s that Reddit keeps complaining about. His career is over after this contract and they aren’t competing for a WCC before it’s up.
Ok well ask Lawrence Stroll if he'd rather have a rookie or Fernando Alonso? He's there on merit, why on gods green earth would anyone want to see a rookie with a fraction of his talent and ability in that seat rather than a multi world champion? The Aston has been a poor car this year sure, so we'd basically be looking at another Sargeant/Zhou situation if Alonso were replaced by a rookie, thats not exactly enticing for anyone. Honestly, expecting him to move aside for an inferior driver just because they aren't competitive at the moment is insane, you could easily argue a good portion of the grid should step aside for rookie drivers that are almost guaranteed to be significantly worse than most of the grid. Why should rookies get seats not based on merit?
Yeah, I got the feeling today watching the race that Alonso's checked out on this year. RB are in with a real shot of running them down in the Constructors...
The problem right now for him is that Red Bull wants to keep Perez and if they want their junior team to have a purpose they can't keep both him and Tsunoda, and Tsunoda is already signed. He belongs in F1 but he should be somewhere else than in Vcarb. Why not Williams or Haas ? Or even Alpine lmao
Well that's what Marko wants, but nothing most of the other senior figures in RB and Red Bull Racing have been saying lines up with it, they seem quite content with having Ricciardo and Tsunoda there and aren't overly concerned by needing it to be a development team. And Perez's position isn't as secure as it's made out to be, Horner's already indicated he was given a 1+1 contract, they're not locked in with him for the long term. And if Ricciardo is allegedly in peril despite performing fine, how can Perez keep this performance level and not be in peril next year?
They've already stated that RB is moving away from the "Junior Team" towards being its own entity. All the "under pressure" crap feels like its driven by Lawsons camp and Marko's old man rambling as hte head of the Junior program
RB have always said DR brings more to their team than just race results, all DR needs to do is keep doing strong races to the summer break and he should be good. If Perez can keep his seat with his god awful perfomances, then DR should keep his since he's only getting more comfortable with the car as the season goes on, and usually its the car letting him down not his skills
Why is everyone still listening to Marko and taking it as gospel? Dude obviously lost a lot of power in the red bull power struggle earlier in the year and is just saying random shit in the media to keep some relevance. Nobody else at Red Bull have said it needs to be a junior team, they have actively been saying the opposite for the last 2-3 years now
That's Marko going on his own in the media which was reigned in by Horner afterwards saying "we decide in house first".
Dan made Marko look very silly today.
His tire management was great, one of his skills that often gets overlooked. Perez was always dubbed “tire whisperer” but I’ve always felt Ricciardo was always better.
Yeah during Perez’s stint with Sauber his tyre management led to some legendary drives, but that was when the Pirelli was new to the sport and they had the durability of a wet tissue.
That's totally incorrect?? He is very famously a late braking driver.
Even his wikipedia page lists it lmfao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ricciardo#Driving_style
No OP was correct, it was always about his late braking moves.
Here’s a link of what we’re talking about https://youtu.be/zYqU6hNEjuM?si=P6d6vvwZSrXDt59s
No, it's correct. He brakes early. The "late braking Dany" is just Reddit and forum BS from people who never watch the races. What he tends to do is dive-bomb and pass competitors. He is excellent at breaking late to bypass. But in a typical corner, he brakes early.
Hes famously *not* a late braking driver, its literally the biggest problem he had at Mclaren because that cars philosophy demands late braking at all times to generate turn in. He prefers to brake earlier, like Max.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVKeBAyIjyw
Nope. He only overtakes that way. On his quali laps or just regular race pace he’s good with pointy front ends because he brakes and rotates the car early.
I don't think it was quiet outside of the lack of broadcast time, he was constantly battling throughout the entire race.
At one point leclerc was directly behind him by 4 seconds, and caught up to danny within 2.5 seconds but then never got any closer and then gasly overtook leclerc and never got close enough to have a shot at an overtake even with drs for several laps.
Very strong drive especially considering how far Yuki fell down. Think Daniels strategy was stronger.
I heard something about them trying different car specs to compare the botched updates to the old car, what happened there, was it just a rumour?
They both had Frankenstein cars and were experimenting with new/old parts and setups throughout the weekend.
It wasn’t really clear what were the differences between cars but it didn’t seem to be anything close to a clear cut old spec vs new spec
I can't remember if they had prac 2/3 after qualy like they did one of the previous rounds, but Daniel said they had different cars after qualy.
Idk why that matters because Yuki was as fast as Daniel until the final Q2 round so...
Yuki pit one lap after Ricciardo.
Yuki's qualifying position (it's super tight) limited his possibilities. It's not like his car was any faster than those in front.
Daniel made up 2 positions, Yuki lost 2 positions - and I thought Yukis first stint was several laps longer?
I recognize that Daniel overtook through the undercut but his pace was strong the whole race and especially he put up a strong defense against Alpines and Alonso
> and I thought Yukis first stint was several laps longer
fair, I think I was remembered this wrong.
Ricciardo had strong pace and was managing his tyres with his slightly slower pace than the Haas. He really picked it up at the end, and when Gasly was closing on him.
I don't think Yuki had a bad race, you're just kind of limited when you're back there. The RB doesn't overtake very well. Looking forward to the compiled stats.
I think the Haas pace ahead of him was because of Kmag using his tyres more, which eventually paid off for Danny and he caught up however not enough to make the pass which was unfortunate.
Yuki had a pretty mediocre race and with a straight-ahead standard strategy he was never going to make a lot of progress.
I could only follow by the timing screen (which is infuriating) but I was wondering if Ricciardo was conservative because it was KMag and would prefer 2 points to 0 points.
Stoked that people are finally realising that Ricciardo has been quietly improving all year since the chassis change.
I get it- they try to get him out of DRS trains and into clean air, the car sucks at close following and overtaking but races good in clean air. They’ve just haven’t done it right / tyres haven’t worked or the race flags etc have screwed them
Daniel had a great day. Very very nearly finished 8th too as he was only a lap or two from passing Mag. In fact he got very very close to overtaking him in the final 3 laps.
great defending all race. alpines were clearly quicker but never bothered him.
RB actually decent strategy for once, i think the earlier stop gained him a handful of positions in the first stop, and then 6-7 seconds on the alpines on the 2nd.
Yeah should start him on softs when others are on mediums and pit after 12 laps, then he can go on a longer stint to make up for the earlier pit and gain places.
Yeah, he fell off of Daniel after he got behind him after the first stop, I was honestly expecting him to go past on similar tyres but then the gap ballooned to 1.5
Daniels biggest weakness is that he always manages to find himself on the wrong side of turn 1, aside from the car being a poor launcher in general.
He keeps getting pushed off track and I can't help but think he puts himself there for that to happen.
He couldn't make the medium work for some reason but they still kept him out for much longer, he got undercut both pitstops. Pace comparison after the first stint was hard since they were so offset from another. Daniel was definitely faster but Yuki should've been fighting with the Alpines.
How bad was he on the mediums? So basically VCARB just let Yuki get undercut twice? It seems odd. Basically VCARB had terrible strategy for both drivers, but choose to pit early for Ric and late for Yuki, which was only worked because Ric conserved better, while Yuki couldn't make the overcut work?
Yuki wouldn’t have been able to execute the strategy they put DR on. He managed his hard tires and was able to fend off the Alpines as well as make a push on Mag at the end.
Mega drive by Ricciardo, despite the extremely early stop, kept cars behind with fresher tyres. Might even get P8 with another lap or two.
3 races in a row he's been the leading VCARB.
> let’s hope this is him turning the corner
I honestly think the two are very close in driving skill. It's a shame there's so much hate/drama around DR that if Yuki comes out even just *slightly* ahead there's a train of "DR sucks, get him out".
The mid field is packed and their car is less than amazing, will be unlikely for both of them to find space in the points on any given weekend.
He has an incredible ability to manage tyres and just bang in the times he needs to hold people off and still stay in touching distance. Just like this perfect sweet spot and it’s a seriously underrated skill.
They have but Daniel always finds himself in the slowest part of T1/2 somehow. It's always slow cars in front allowing others to slip by, it's really frustrating to watch. He was pushed off track in T1 and T2 today.
He might just be overly cautious, I could be wrong but it seems common for Yuki to gain a spot or two and Danny to lose a spot or two within the first few turns of lap 1.
T1 and T3 are also super tight, we watched him wreck a race with Albon once already and I doubt he feels comfortable in his seat enough to risk losing an entire race just to hold a position on a first lap.
100%, I think the VCARB has poor clutch but Yuki knows he is safe with his seat so he will throw it down the inside of the turn at the start and Ric knows he has to stay in the race to show what he can do.
In Spain I noticed he got a better start than Yuki but stayed behind Yuki to make sure they both survived.
I’m happy for Daniel. Yes, I know this could be the end (I’ve been his fan, hardcore, since 2014… I want him to continue!!) but I am happy to know he’s conducting clean, error free driving and doing what he can to score.
I watched his on board all race, he raced amazingly. Would highly recommend getting invested in Danny Ric, or another mid field driver, keeps the races interesting before it all kicks off up front!
Yeah that gave me the shits back then. They knew they had a torrid car, they knew it wasn't fair on the drivers but they still tossed him out anyway. At the beginning of 2023 it was looking like it was going to be literally no different or even worse.
Then the remembered how to build a car for Silverstone.
Ok can we rid ourselves of Perez, promote Danny back to Max support. While also getting Liam a seat with Yuki. See if moving on from Yuki might be smart after 2025 if there’s no improvement.
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Nice and clean race, Haas was clearly faster today but still kept up with them nicely.
Alpines were quicker too but Danny Ric's tyre management is goated
His tyre management is actually insane, so many races where you expect him to pit but he just keeps going with old ass tyres.
I’m starting to think it’s making the team confused on strategy 😅
It wouldn't surprise me, so many times in the past where they bring him in super early and I'm like, why? He can manage the tyres.
He'd ask to go long at Mclaren too and they'd say no- remember Hungary where he wanted to go straight from the medium to the soft and skip the (terrible) hards?
Yep, its absolutely frustrating.
I get it- they try to get him out of DRS trains and into clean air, the car sucks at close following and overtaking but races good in clean air. They’ve just haven’t done it right / tyres haven’t worked or the race flags etc have screwed them
He should just channel his inner Sainz and start deciding his own strategy, can’t be worse than the team strategists surely
It's always the bloody Italians
[Lmao](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F70dzwmgcwgga1.jpg)
last week he had negative tyre deg and people asked if he hwaled the tyres lmao
Really good race by him! Was so close to getting 8th from K-mag too
It’s very hard to overtake mag. I was just hoping there wouldn’t be a crash!
Haha yeah I was kinda hoping he wouldn’t try because of the “strong” let’s say defence kmag does
The last 4 laps I was worried he would commit too hard on kmag and ocon would jump them both.
I was really scared when the virtual safety car came on that we missed a mag/ric crash but it was all good
I really need to see his onboard from all that because they were focused on Piastri 2s from Russell instead
I get it- they try to get him out of DRS trains and into clean air, the car sucks at close following and overtaking but races good in clean air. They’ve just haven’t done it right / tyres haven’t worked or the race flags etc have screwed them
This is the kind of race he seemed to put together a lot at Renault - stopping early for undercuts and track position, then stretching the extra laps out of the following stints without melting the tyres. Shame for him that Haas were able to do it just that little bit better, but good signs from the upgrades.
I think the Haas was genuinely just a quicker car.
Yep. After the first or second pit stop they came out one after another and haas disappeared quickly.
Says how good of a drive Daniel had to nearly pick Kevin off in the end.
Yeah that's what I mean, they had a better package all weekend.
I get it- they try to get him out of DRS trains and into clean air, the car sucks at close following and overtaking but races good in clean air. They’ve just haven’t done it right / tyres haven’t worked or the race flags etc have screwed them
Hell of a drive for Danny
Danny did really well today! Hope he can keep this up next week
He’s been keeping this up for a few weeks now. Seems to be finding some consistency.
I’ve been enjoying this, definitely an improvement over the first few races
Massive improvement, recently there has been nothing between him and Yuki. If anything Dan has had the slight edge.
Since Tsunoda has been signed actually.
Seriously underrated drive. Long last stint and held off a faster alpine on mediums for a long while. Again showing how important experience can be. Would have got Kevin with another lap to. Couple of points really important with haas getting a bag today as well.
Fuck if the season started a few weeks ago we'd be talking about the inevitability of DR taking Perez' seat. How quickly things change.
Even with DR or Yuki form - it seems both of them could have been an upgrade.
If their forms continue like this up to the summer break that is something we should be talking about again.
It seemed to start with the chassis change.
Three great weekends on the bounce, this chatter about him being "under pressure" is just divorced from reality. He's really been cooking lately, absolutely no reason for him to be going anywhere.
I got flamed yesterday because I said Alonso is more deserving of losing his F1 spot due to how he has performed lately. People on reddit don’t watch the races.
I think Alonso just checks out when he knows the car is a tractor.
He’s had an engine issue for the last few races apparently, explains how he’s been unrecognisable
DR wasn’t given that luxury when he had a bad chassis until China. We have to hold people to the same standard.
Honestly, there is a slight difference. Alonso was performing consistently well before now Daniel had just had his worst 3 years in the sport. It's easier for a reason in a sudden drop of form to be believed that for a reason when the driver was underwhelming for 2.5 seasons prior.
3 years? He had one bad year at McLaren and everyone leaps to 3 years. Last year at AT was fine as a comeback and dealing with a hand injury, even had a P7 in the slowest car on the grid. He had a win at McLaren in 2021… stop with this hyperbole. Alonso hasn’t had a win since 2013 and has been mid for most of his time at AM minus early last year when the car was good.
I'll give you th AT one But the McLaren one. Nah, barring a few good races, he was consistently behind Lando, who he was supposed to absolutely crush.
He actually outscored Lando in the second half of 2021 *even if you take out Monza*
He was supposed to absolutely crush him? Dude he’s the second best driver in the sport. Yes he got beat but it wasn’t Verstappen Perez, they finished P6 and P8 respectively splitting the Ferrari drivers. The car that year the 4th best and the rhetoric is overblown. Every race win he has had has been with the 3rd and 4th best car on the grid.
Did you read the media when he signed. Literally, everyone expected him to absolutely school Lando when he signed.
Norris 2nd best driver in the sport? Definitely not I'd rate George, Hamilton, leclarc and Max over him 9 times out of 10. Lando is very quick driver as good as the others but he seems to do rookie mistakes fairly often when it matters.
If you just look at the Red Bull group of drivers and say who deserves to be in a car right now the least, it has to be Checo. The only reason there is any chatter is Helmut justifying his job and cause they prematurely resigned Checo.
Seriously. Danny Ric has supposedly been teetering on the edge of losing his seat all season, and personally I wouldn't at all be surprised if you swapped him and Perez and he performed more consistently in the Red Bull.
He certainly wouldn't do worse than Checo, at least. Checo can just barely beat him now at times.
I would add Checo, Sergeant, Stroll, Zhou, Kmag all deserve to lose a seat in F1 before Riccardio does.
Agree. I'd actually like to see DR sign for Williams and help bring that team back to the front.
I think ricc has been better than a lot of people like to say, but acting like Alonso doesn't belong anymore because of a few races when the car is total dogshit is actually insane.
Is it though? He’s taking a spot from a rookie… that’s that Reddit keeps complaining about. His career is over after this contract and they aren’t competing for a WCC before it’s up.
Ok well ask Lawrence Stroll if he'd rather have a rookie or Fernando Alonso? He's there on merit, why on gods green earth would anyone want to see a rookie with a fraction of his talent and ability in that seat rather than a multi world champion? The Aston has been a poor car this year sure, so we'd basically be looking at another Sargeant/Zhou situation if Alonso were replaced by a rookie, thats not exactly enticing for anyone. Honestly, expecting him to move aside for an inferior driver just because they aren't competitive at the moment is insane, you could easily argue a good portion of the grid should step aside for rookie drivers that are almost guaranteed to be significantly worse than most of the grid. Why should rookies get seats not based on merit?
Yeah, I got the feeling today watching the race that Alonso's checked out on this year. RB are in with a real shot of running them down in the Constructors...
Maybe Alonso can do what Stroll should do and pivot to their Hypercar team if Aston keeps botching the upgrades.
Unfortunately I can't see Alonso going back to WEC - not when there's so much competition in the Hypercar class...
You misspoke stroll there
The problem right now for him is that Red Bull wants to keep Perez and if they want their junior team to have a purpose they can't keep both him and Tsunoda, and Tsunoda is already signed. He belongs in F1 but he should be somewhere else than in Vcarb. Why not Williams or Haas ? Or even Alpine lmao
Well that's what Marko wants, but nothing most of the other senior figures in RB and Red Bull Racing have been saying lines up with it, they seem quite content with having Ricciardo and Tsunoda there and aren't overly concerned by needing it to be a development team. And Perez's position isn't as secure as it's made out to be, Horner's already indicated he was given a 1+1 contract, they're not locked in with him for the long term. And if Ricciardo is allegedly in peril despite performing fine, how can Perez keep this performance level and not be in peril next year?
Perez brings in an absolute shotload of sponsorship money.
They've already stated that RB is moving away from the "Junior Team" towards being its own entity. All the "under pressure" crap feels like its driven by Lawsons camp and Marko's old man rambling as hte head of the Junior program RB have always said DR brings more to their team than just race results, all DR needs to do is keep doing strong races to the summer break and he should be good. If Perez can keep his seat with his god awful perfomances, then DR should keep his since he's only getting more comfortable with the car as the season goes on, and usually its the car letting him down not his skills
They have been saying that the second Red Bull team is moving from the junior team model since ages, it's just marketing talk.
other teams probably aren't thrilled with the advantage a dedicated feeder team provides. Explains the "sister team" rhetoric
Why is everyone still listening to Marko and taking it as gospel? Dude obviously lost a lot of power in the red bull power struggle earlier in the year and is just saying random shit in the media to keep some relevance. Nobody else at Red Bull have said it needs to be a junior team, they have actively been saying the opposite for the last 2-3 years now
That's Marko going on his own in the media which was reigned in by Horner afterwards saying "we decide in house first". Dan made Marko look very silly today.
Congrats Danny Ric on points quietly had a tidy race, kept out of trouble and showed good race pace and tyre management
His tire management was great, one of his skills that often gets overlooked. Perez was always dubbed “tire whisperer” but I’ve always felt Ricciardo was always better.
Perez is a tyre whisperer but is fucking slow while doing so.
Yeah during Perez’s stint with Sauber his tyre management led to some legendary drives, but that was when the Pirelli was new to the sport and they had the durability of a wet tissue.
he drives slowly so you can hear the whisper better
What he's lost in his last of the late brakers skills he's gained in tire management
he’s always had solid tyre management, mexico 2019 is a race that sticks out in my mind especially
He has always had a driving style where he brakes early and gained that nickname because of his brave overtakes on the brakes, just fyi
That's totally incorrect?? He is very famously a late braking driver. Even his wikipedia page lists it lmfao https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ricciardo#Driving_style
No OP was correct, it was always about his late braking moves. Here’s a link of what we’re talking about https://youtu.be/zYqU6hNEjuM?si=P6d6vvwZSrXDt59s
No, it's correct. He brakes early. The "late braking Dany" is just Reddit and forum BS from people who never watch the races. What he tends to do is dive-bomb and pass competitors. He is excellent at breaking late to bypass. But in a typical corner, he brakes early.
>Ricciardo is known for his aggressive style as well as favouring a late braking manoeuvre to **engineer overtakes.**
Hes famously *not* a late braking driver, its literally the biggest problem he had at Mclaren because that cars philosophy demands late braking at all times to generate turn in. He prefers to brake earlier, like Max. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVKeBAyIjyw
Nope. He only overtakes that way. On his quali laps or just regular race pace he’s good with pointy front ends because he brakes and rotates the car early.
”Thats totally incorrect” *links to a source supporting that it was correct*
He did have quite a bit of on track action both attacking and defending, and getting ahead of both Alpines in the end. One of his best races.
I don't think it was quiet outside of the lack of broadcast time, he was constantly battling throughout the entire race. At one point leclerc was directly behind him by 4 seconds, and caught up to danny within 2.5 seconds but then never got any closer and then gasly overtook leclerc and never got close enough to have a shot at an overtake even with drs for several laps.
Hugely underrated drive, will be overshadowed by the drama up top.
Very strong drive especially considering how far Yuki fell down. Think Daniels strategy was stronger. I heard something about them trying different car specs to compare the botched updates to the old car, what happened there, was it just a rumour?
They both had Frankenstein cars and were experimenting with new/old parts and setups throughout the weekend. It wasn’t really clear what were the differences between cars but it didn’t seem to be anything close to a clear cut old spec vs new spec
They did that only in practice.
Same cars in the race?
It should have been.
I can't remember if they had prac 2/3 after qualy like they did one of the previous rounds, but Daniel said they had different cars after qualy. Idk why that matters because Yuki was as fast as Daniel until the final Q2 round so...
I think he meant the cars in qualy were different from the cars in the sprint
Yeah, hoping VCARB can bring the full upgrade package next weekend, but idk if that is even possible.
Yuki pit one lap after Ricciardo. Yuki's qualifying position (it's super tight) limited his possibilities. It's not like his car was any faster than those in front.
Daniel made up 2 positions, Yuki lost 2 positions - and I thought Yukis first stint was several laps longer? I recognize that Daniel overtook through the undercut but his pace was strong the whole race and especially he put up a strong defense against Alpines and Alonso
> and I thought Yukis first stint was several laps longer fair, I think I was remembered this wrong. Ricciardo had strong pace and was managing his tyres with his slightly slower pace than the Haas. He really picked it up at the end, and when Gasly was closing on him. I don't think Yuki had a bad race, you're just kind of limited when you're back there. The RB doesn't overtake very well. Looking forward to the compiled stats.
I think the Haas pace ahead of him was because of Kmag using his tyres more, which eventually paid off for Danny and he caught up however not enough to make the pass which was unfortunate. Yuki had a pretty mediocre race and with a straight-ahead standard strategy he was never going to make a lot of progress.
I could only follow by the timing screen (which is infuriating) but I was wondering if Ricciardo was conservative because it was KMag and would prefer 2 points to 0 points. Stoked that people are finally realising that Ricciardo has been quietly improving all year since the chassis change.
He did do a couple of attempts that he backed out of, but it probably partly had to do with Kmags reputation as well as his own tyre status
Kept Gasly behind the entire time who had fresher tyres, well raced.
Fresh mediums too, DR was on hards I believe?
Dying hards and still put a charge on Kevin at the end.
So the early pit paid off! Wow
It only paid off cuz Danny Ric's tyre management is truly great
His tire management was just insane.
No way Yuki would have managed those tyres like that to achieve that result
I get it- they try to get him out of DRS trains and into clean air, the car sucks at close following and overtaking but races good in clean air. They’ve just haven’t done it right / tyres haven’t worked or the race flags etc have screwed them
Well done time to eat crow for me
Daniel had a great day. Very very nearly finished 8th too as he was only a lap or two from passing Mag. In fact he got very very close to overtaking him in the final 3 laps.
just over 1 tenth was the closest, shame it wasn't shown on air.
Great result in seemingly a still shitty car. Hope Vcarb can sort out their “upgrade” further for next weekend.
great defending all race. alpines were clearly quicker but never bothered him. RB actually decent strategy for once, i think the earlier stop gained him a handful of positions in the first stop, and then 6-7 seconds on the alpines on the 2nd.
I don't know why they don't go for early stops for more often, his great tyre management isn't something new.
Yeah should start him on softs when others are on mediums and pit after 12 laps, then he can go on a longer stint to make up for the earlier pit and gain places.
The early stop is what allowed him to fight and hold off the Alpines at all, crucial decision
Wish they were able to have decent strategies for both drivers in the same race but I don't think that has happened more than twice this year.
Yukis strategy wasn’t bad, he just seemed to lack some pace no?
Yeah, he fell off of Daniel after he got behind him after the first stop, I was honestly expecting him to go past on similar tyres but then the gap ballooned to 1.5
Yeah he ended up behind him at the start to and dropped back pretty quickly I think.
Daniels biggest weakness is that he always manages to find himself on the wrong side of turn 1, aside from the car being a poor launcher in general. He keeps getting pushed off track and I can't help but think he puts himself there for that to happen.
I thought he actually did really well to avoid contact today. Actually had good positions but had to avoid squabbling.
Yeah, thought he finally had a good start but got shoved wide by a haas
He couldn't make the medium work for some reason but they still kept him out for much longer, he got undercut both pitstops. Pace comparison after the first stint was hard since they were so offset from another. Daniel was definitely faster but Yuki should've been fighting with the Alpines.
How bad was he on the mediums? So basically VCARB just let Yuki get undercut twice? It seems odd. Basically VCARB had terrible strategy for both drivers, but choose to pit early for Ric and late for Yuki, which was only worked because Ric conserved better, while Yuki couldn't make the overcut work?
Yuki wouldn’t have been able to execute the strategy they put DR on. He managed his hard tires and was able to fend off the Alpines as well as make a push on Mag at the end.
Only 7 seconds behind Perez too.
Its not supposed to be the case when u compare the #1 car atm and the fifth
Helmut can suck it
Jacque as well.
Yeah but you don’t need to worry about his opinion he’s a harmless twit Helmut may not have the same power at Red Bull anymore but he’s still a factor
Helmut the helmet
Red Bull resigned Perez too early.
I bet RB has plenty of room to end that contract or move him to the vcarb.
#BIGRICENERGY
Great weekend overall by RIC! Good to see VCARB bouncing back after last weekend
Mega drive by Ricciardo, despite the extremely early stop, kept cars behind with fresher tyres. Might even get P8 with another lap or two. 3 races in a row he's been the leading VCARB.
Good race from him, amazing tyre management and was a lap away from P8. Well done.
Daniel has been by far the stronger RB driver the last few races, let’s hope this is him turning the corner
He’s definitely adapted better to the upgrades. Yuki not making Q3 every race now is really hurting him.
> let’s hope this is him turning the corner I honestly think the two are very close in driving skill. It's a shame there's so much hate/drama around DR that if Yuki comes out even just *slightly* ahead there's a train of "DR sucks, get him out". The mid field is packed and their car is less than amazing, will be unlikely for both of them to find space in the points on any given weekend.
Ric in a Red Bull would’ve been on the podium today
Top class drive
He managed that race so good, I was watching his lap times and had amazing tire management
He has an incredible ability to manage tyres and just bang in the times he needs to hold people off and still stay in touching distance. Just like this perfect sweet spot and it’s a seriously underrated skill.
I was watching his gap to Magnussen in front and hoping that he’d dropped back to save tyres, looks like it almost worked out for him.
He drove his little butt off and kept it clean, so happy for him
I don't understand how the VCARB's have decent race pace but always lose a couple of positions at the start. Like clockwork.
I think they’ve been having clutch issues? Not 100% sure but it’s definitely seems like a car issue
They have but Daniel always finds himself in the slowest part of T1/2 somehow. It's always slow cars in front allowing others to slip by, it's really frustrating to watch. He was pushed off track in T1 and T2 today.
He might just be overly cautious, I could be wrong but it seems common for Yuki to gain a spot or two and Danny to lose a spot or two within the first few turns of lap 1. T1 and T3 are also super tight, we watched him wreck a race with Albon once already and I doubt he feels comfortable in his seat enough to risk losing an entire race just to hold a position on a first lap.
100%, I think the VCARB has poor clutch but Yuki knows he is safe with his seat so he will throw it down the inside of the turn at the start and Ric knows he has to stay in the race to show what he can do. In Spain I noticed he got a better start than Yuki but stayed behind Yuki to make sure they both survived.
Because their clutches are getting built out of spaghetti in the factory, it seems
Congratulations to DR, big points, amazing drive. He still got it.
Great race. Let’s do a little switscharoo with Perez during summer
Did he stop again or not? I know he did the early stop for hards and I can’t remember if he did another one
No, only had 2 stops but had a very long last stint. He had very old hard tyres at the end.
around 26 laps for first set of hards and around 33-34 for final set from memory
The first hard stint was on used hards as well.
Great drive for Danny, actually sound strategy from VCARB for once
when the strategy is just trust the driver’s tyre management i struggle to shift credit personally.
Daniel getting points and Hulkenberg in 6th ahead of Perez are definitely overshadowed by the drama
Missed most of the race when I saw where he was about halfway in I was shocked, must've drove his ass off
His tire management was crazy he beat Gas in a much faster car on fresher tires and on a harder compound.
Strong drive by Daniel, extracted the most out of the car and the strategy was good
Ended up ahead of BOTH Alpines, which were the faster car today. Amazing drive and calls on the pit stop timing by the team. Great jobs all around!
Put him or Yuki in Perez's seat, what a basket case
Reddit punching air right now. Again Ricciardo outclasses Tsunoda easily lmao
I’m happy for Daniel. Yes, I know this could be the end (I’ve been his fan, hardcore, since 2014… I want him to continue!!) but I am happy to know he’s conducting clean, error free driving and doing what he can to score.
Important points with Haas gaining on VCARB and good damage limitation from downgrades. By the end of the season Alpine might also close the gap.
amazing job tbh!!
Go the Honey Badger!
Well deserved points for Daniel. He’s slowly getting his performances up.
I watched his on board all race, he raced amazingly. Would highly recommend getting invested in Danny Ric, or another mid field driver, keeps the races interesting before it all kicks off up front!
Confirmed, Danny taking Max’s seat.
3 races in a row where he outperformed tsunado now, the conversation will be shifting very quickly if he can keep this up until the summer break.
Just needs to work on the starts now. Little to passive at the moment and keeps getting mugged by the likes of kmag and hulk.
I think he’s being conservative and avoiding trouble. I notice he’s just on the outside away from all the chaos
I’m starting to think everyone at RB/RBR knows that if they apply pressure on him he’ll step it up
Didn't really work at Mclaren.
It took Stella taking over for McLaren to find their way. If everyone judged Alonso on his time at McLaren-Honda, oh boy.
Yeah that gave me the shits back then. They knew they had a torrid car, they knew it wasn't fair on the drivers but they still tossed him out anyway. At the beginning of 2023 it was looking like it was going to be literally no different or even worse. Then the remembered how to build a car for Silverstone.
Fucken elated for him. If only qualy went better..
Nha quali was probably the maximum. Alpines and Haas cars were faster all weekend.
Yuki washed. Where's lawson?
Ok can we rid ourselves of Perez, promote Danny back to Max support. While also getting Liam a seat with Yuki. See if moving on from Yuki might be smart after 2025 if there’s no improvement.
Oh right, this also happened lol
Keep it up!
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Damn Danny only if you did this earlier