I'm not good enough to ID what type of ammonite it is based on the septal patterns alone. So the best I can give you is that they came into existence in the Paleozoic several hundred million years ago and went extinct 66 million years ago in the end Cretaceous extinction event.
Geological history is wild like that. When the first *T. rex* appeared on Earth, trilobites had already been extinct for over 150 million years meaning that trilobites were older to *T. rex* than *T. rex* is to us. And it gets even crazier, trilobites lived for so long that the trilobites that existed in the end-Permian extinction event were over 250 million years removed from the earliest trilobites in the Cambrian. Meaning that the first trilobites were older to the last trilobites than the last trilobites were to the *T. Rex*. Which also means that the last trilobites were as far removed from the first trilobites as humans are removed from the last trilobites.
Happens. Fossils and minerals are awesome collections to get into. I walk into my room every day and get a glimpse at the natural world, living and long gone, and if its geology, from boiling volcanoes and oceanic depths. It's wonderful.
I will get it (hopefully it’s in audio). I go through the same thing while staring at the stars (like so many other people). We humans are such a measly speck in space-time
That reminds me of another one, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, five book trilogy. There is a punishment device described that involves being shown the true size of the universe.
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John Wayne Airport in Orange County, CA is COVERED in travertine tiles that are chock full of fossils. Hundreds and hundreds of fossils all over an airport. It’s a very interesting juxtaposition.
John Wayne's not dead, he's frozen
And as soon as we find a cure for cancer, we're gonna thaw out the Duke, and he's gonna be pretty pissed off. You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Well, multiply that by fifteen million times! That's how pissed off the Duke's gonna be
I'm gonna get the Duke, and John Cassavetes and Lee Marvin, and Sam Peckinpah, and a case of whiskey and drive down to Texas
lol - I do want to pull Dennis Leary aside and discuss how John Wayne was in no way a badass, unless it was punching his wives & mistresses. Cassavetes would piss in his ear holes.
Iirc there are a couple fossils in the floor and walls at the Field Museum in Chicago as well, and I’m pretty sure they at least initially weren’t intentional. I know they had a particularly interesting specimen that was exposed years after installing the stone by weathering from foot traffic on a staircase but it was removed from the floor and preserved properly after discovery. I can’t remember what exactly it was, but it was decades ago that it happened and probably almost 20 years since I went on the guided tour that mentioned it so in modern times it might not be as interesting barring the circumstances of its discovery.
University Mall. Don't know why I've heard it called that, doesn't seem to have any murders. Someone called it that when I moved here 8 years ago and it stuck
I'd bet most of the rocks you see everywhere are even older! Just making another interesting observation moat people also don't relaize.Very cool fossil tho!
Recently saw a post about someone's travertine floor having a human jaw bone in it...
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/fossils/comments/1c4hldl/found_a_mandible_in_the_travertin_floor_at_my/
Tile fossils have blown up in the fossil subs recently. Apparently there's a quarry in Turkey famous for the stone having a lot of fossils in it or something? I can't remember the name of the stone tho 😭
Edit: travertine is the name of the stone, saw someone else mention it too
This is not travertine. People keep misidentifying it because it looks similar and it's been popular on here lately but travertine forms in freshwater, so the presence of a marine fossil means it cannot be travertine
Imagine dying and decomposing for millions of years peacefully.. and then some other species digs you up, cuts you into slabs, and walks all over your fossilized corpse, all while posting pictures of you online. Fossils are wild, man!
I couldn’t tell you where this was cut from I just happened to look down and see it since the jaw bone thing I seen and boom there it was but 66 million year is wild
Kinda funny how many people are gonna be looking at flooring differently now.
Wife: "Honey, wanna go to the store with me?"
Husband: "Maybe. What type of flooring do they have in there?"
This cannot be travertine. Travertine is a form of calcium carbonate that forms terrestrially and ammonites are a marine fossil. This is just regular marine limestone.
Ammonites went extinct at the end of the Cretaceous 66 million years ago, so it's at least that old and could be much older. Would need to know where the rock came from to be more exact.
It’s not an accident. The limestone tiles are sometimes marketed as “fossil stone” or similar names. If you look you may find many more on the same floor but likely not as clear or perfect. I worked on a shopping mall that had similar tiles that were quarried in Germany.
Travertine is a terrestrial rock formed in hot springs and caves, ammonites are a marine species. So the presence of an ammonite fossil means it's not travertine
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Agree with those who have said ammonite in fossil limestone flooring. I'm guessing the crystals that have formed are calcite or aragonite, but am not certain. If you're interested in crystallized ammonites, Google "pyritized ammonite" or "ammolite".
Anyhow, this kind of flooring is usually in malls, airports, and museums. Neat decor, although not high quality specimens anyone would collect. Going on a scavenger hunt to find more should be fun -- enjoy!
If this is the mall I think it is, you'll find lots of these on the floor there! I actually think they intentionally bought tile for this. The airport in Nashville, TN has bathrooms with them in the wall tiling, too.
There's lots of buildings with stone slabs containing fossils.. I remember a bank in downtown Ogden..black stone slab exterior walls..lots of fossils in the stone.. I enjoyed looking at them when I was young .
What would something like that be worth to
A collector or somebody that wanted it at there house . I’m going take my son tomorrow for another walk around the mall and go fossil searching should be fun
Not really. These things are very common. You can get your very own ammonite in much better condition for tens of dollars at almost any geology themed gift shop. I got mine at Luray caverns for $15.
Ammonite cross section, the lines perpendicular to the spiral of the shell are the septa
If you had to date how many year old this thing is what would your guess be
I'm not good enough to ID what type of ammonite it is based on the septal patterns alone. So the best I can give you is that they came into existence in the Paleozoic several hundred million years ago and went extinct 66 million years ago in the end Cretaceous extinction event.
Ammonites appeared in the Jurassic. Goniatites(Devonian) and ceratites(Permian) appeared in the Paleozoic.
But can you say by the picture if it is an ammonite or another ammonoid?
Yes, complex sutures are visible(especially in the lower right of the piece). It's an ammonite.
Pete Rawson to this post. (It's as ammonitey as an ammonite can be)
This stone is called Jura marble or Jura limestone. It comes from Germany and is Jurassic in age.
I give it at least 10 years give or take.
I thought those were the grout lines...
Haha okay, *those ones* are grout lines. The lines inside the spiral that are wavy but perpendicular to the shell are the septa.
Either that or someone laid a coiler there
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Never underestimate the ability of people, is what momma always told me
Yeah
The fact that this ended up in a mall floor is wild to me. I wonder how many people have appreciated it while walking by/over it
Especially over it, over a piece of history long before the first humans...
I always try to wrap my mind around the concept of 60, 70 million years, and I cannot.
It could be wayyy older, like 150-200
my brain is stuck
Geological history is wild like that. When the first *T. rex* appeared on Earth, trilobites had already been extinct for over 150 million years meaning that trilobites were older to *T. rex* than *T. rex* is to us. And it gets even crazier, trilobites lived for so long that the trilobites that existed in the end-Permian extinction event were over 250 million years removed from the earliest trilobites in the Cambrian. Meaning that the first trilobites were older to the last trilobites than the last trilobites were to the *T. Rex*. Which also means that the last trilobites were as far removed from the first trilobites as humans are removed from the last trilobites.
Dude you just blew my mind xD
Right away my brain goes to Futurama and Bender saying “we robots do everything faster- like evolving, and believing this is happening already!”
Happens. Fossils and minerals are awesome collections to get into. I walk into my room every day and get a glimpse at the natural world, living and long gone, and if its geology, from boiling volcanoes and oceanic depths. It's wonderful.
There is a book out there called Timefulness. It can at least better your appreciation for the age of the earth.
I will get it (hopefully it’s in audio). I go through the same thing while staring at the stars (like so many other people). We humans are such a measly speck in space-time
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Yes!! I remember this! Omg so freakin good. I need to relisten to the audiobooks
That’s this is what blew me away so many ppl walk right over and never see it I’ve been going to the same mall for years and never noticed it
John Wayne Airport in Orange County, CA is COVERED in travertine tiles that are chock full of fossils. Hundreds and hundreds of fossils all over an airport. It’s a very interesting juxtaposition.
Plus, the nasty, decrepit fossil that it’s named after.
Got ‘em
John Wayne's not dead, he's frozen And as soon as we find a cure for cancer, we're gonna thaw out the Duke, and he's gonna be pretty pissed off. You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Well, multiply that by fifteen million times! That's how pissed off the Duke's gonna be I'm gonna get the Duke, and John Cassavetes and Lee Marvin, and Sam Peckinpah, and a case of whiskey and drive down to Texas
lol - I do want to pull Dennis Leary aside and discuss how John Wayne was in no way a badass, unless it was punching his wives & mistresses. Cassavetes would piss in his ear holes.
Hey! You know, you really are an asshole!
Why don't you just shut up and sing the song, pal?
So, basically, a museum at that point? Lol
Iirc there are a couple fossils in the floor and walls at the Field Museum in Chicago as well, and I’m pretty sure they at least initially weren’t intentional. I know they had a particularly interesting specimen that was exposed years after installing the stone by weathering from foot traffic on a staircase but it was removed from the floor and preserved properly after discovery. I can’t remember what exactly it was, but it was decades ago that it happened and probably almost 20 years since I went on the guided tour that mentioned it so in modern times it might not be as interesting barring the circumstances of its discovery.
Is this in Murder Mall by any chance? That place is so weirdly fancy for being so sketchy and dead all the time!
What Mall is that?
University Mall. Don't know why I've heard it called that, doesn't seem to have any murders. Someone called it that when I moved here 8 years ago and it stuck
Ahhhhhh, thanks! I never heard that one.
I'd bet most of the rocks you see everywhere are even older! Just making another interesting observation moat people also don't relaize.Very cool fossil tho!
There’s one in Orlando airport also :)
is this at international mall? if so, what store is it by?? i live close by so id love to go check it out
Recently saw a post about someone's travertine floor having a human jaw bone in it... Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/fossils/comments/1c4hldl/found_a_mandible_in_the_travertin_floor_at_my/
The Prudential Center in Boston has these in the floor as well. Discovering them with my then toddler daughter was fun.
I donno I feel like the mall is appropriate for finding fossils. I bet you find more fossils just walking around there when it opens. 🙃
Possibly an hour before if they open it up for walkers...
Tile fossils have blown up in the fossil subs recently. Apparently there's a quarry in Turkey famous for the stone having a lot of fossils in it or something? I can't remember the name of the stone tho 😭 Edit: travertine is the name of the stone, saw someone else mention it too
This is not travertine. People keep misidentifying it because it looks similar and it's been popular on here lately but travertine forms in freshwater, so the presence of a marine fossil means it cannot be travertine
Yeah, I saw someone else mention that. Still cool tile fossil
The state capitol building in Richmond Virginia has tons in the main entry flooring.
Imagine dying and decomposing for millions of years peacefully.. and then some other species digs you up, cuts you into slabs, and walks all over your fossilized corpse, all while posting pictures of you online. Fossils are wild, man!
It should be in a natural museum or collection somewhere, not being trod on by Tampa shoppers.
This is what I was just thinking myself
The human mandible in a parents’ bathroom was pretty profound to me
I couldn’t tell you where this was cut from I just happened to look down and see it since the jaw bone thing I seen and boom there it was but 66 million year is wild
Kinda funny how many people are gonna be looking at flooring differently now. Wife: "Honey, wanna go to the store with me?" Husband: "Maybe. What type of flooring do they have in there?"
Greatest reply. So on point for all here. Some of us gals will be doing pre shopping research too.
Can you tell me where in the mall? I’d like to stop by it next time I’m there
I’m sorry to say that if I was laying these tiles, I would have figured out a way to abscond with this one 😈
caution stanchions, yellow tape, rolling roughneck trash can, orange vest, work boots and tools
You could totally get away with it!
oh i *know*
🪚
Travertine strikes again! EDIT I have been informed this is not travertine, and I thank everyone for being kind about my ignorance!
This cannot be travertine. Travertine is a form of calcium carbonate that forms terrestrially and ammonites are a marine fossil. This is just regular marine limestone.
Still very cool 🤩
What is this I have bet with my brother that this is a fossil he’s swearing it’s not
Def looks like a fossil gastropod seashell... kind of like a nautilus. Tho I'm no expert, just a fossil sub lurker / collector.
Gastropods don't have septa, the lines creating chambers in the shell.
IT'S AN AMMONITE!!!!!
Marine line stone for the win and specfic region lime stone is in or it’s spread widely
Nope, this is a marine limestone; travertine is terrestrial.
Still super cool!
Honestly my favorite type of rock recently
The downward spiral.
I thought we were talking about the fossil not USD 😂😂
If you walk around Trento in Italy, where they use a lot of this limestone in sidewalks and buildings, you’ll see these things everywhere!
How old would yall date this
Ammonites went extinct at the end of the Cretaceous 66 million years ago, so it's at least that old and could be much older. Would need to know where the rock came from to be more exact.
Between 408 and 65 million years old. Yeah it’s a wide span. Those dudes were around for a big ol span of time.
Ammonites appeared in the Jurassic(~200Ma-66Ka).
It’s crazy it’s literally history on floor and some contractor said let’s just put this here 😂😂
It’s not an accident. The limestone tiles are sometimes marketed as “fossil stone” or similar names. If you look you may find many more on the same floor but likely not as clear or perfect. I worked on a shopping mall that had similar tiles that were quarried in Germany.
We have all recently learned that if it’s Travertine it’s probably millions of years old.
Travertine is a terrestrial rock formed in hot springs and caves, ammonites are a marine species. So the presence of an ammonite fossil means it's not travertine
Which mall is this? Id love to check it out next time I go see friends there
It’s westshore I believe.
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Anyone know why it looks like there's an outline a few inches around the ammonite?
That's the body chamber(part that housed the organism).
An ancient cinnamon scroll
Agree with those who have said ammonite in fossil limestone flooring. I'm guessing the crystals that have formed are calcite or aragonite, but am not certain. If you're interested in crystallized ammonites, Google "pyritized ammonite" or "ammolite". Anyhow, this kind of flooring is usually in malls, airports, and museums. Neat decor, although not high quality specimens anyone would collect. Going on a scavenger hunt to find more should be fun -- enjoy!
Which mall? Floors look like Westshore maybe .. which is being demolished soon
So it turned to crystal forwards the top of the spiral what kind of crystal formed on it and how did that happen
It's a shell, as in, hollow. Mineral rich water leaks into it and grows crystals.
We ordered no fossil in tile
So is this art or a fossile.
Fibonacci says, “Yes”.
So it's a mathematical spiral.
😊That too. And more…
Why do malls have better fossils than I get in a year lol
Y'all got me scouring every inch my hotel bathroom with what looks like maybe travertine and probably even isn't, just looking for some fossils, lol
That’s an Omanyte! :) /s
Can you share where this is precisely? I’m local and my nature loving fiance is in town next week and I’d love to show him this.
If this is the mall I think it is, you'll find lots of these on the floor there! I actually think they intentionally bought tile for this. The airport in Nashville, TN has bathrooms with them in the wall tiling, too.
Which mall is it??
Cirtus Park Town Center
i keep seeing people post tampa in every group im in! we’re growing too fast 😂 this fossils so cool which mall
Read a story about a human jaw bone in a tile installed in someone's kitchen recently.
Aren't those super expensive? So funny it ended up in a tile in a mall.
I believe I remember seeing fossils in the floor at either the Woolfchase Galleria in Memphis, TN or Augusta Mall in Augusta, GA.
There was a recent posting of a human lower mandible in a slap of travertine…would rather have above that the jaw personally
It's from Solnhofen in Germany, so it's roughly 160 million years old
How did you pick this area just by looking at
Did they seriously cut out a fuckin ammonite and just say "fuck it, ammonite floor tile"
This is in the bathroom hallway in the mall, right? I’ve spent far too much time looking at the fossils there in between taking the kids to pee!
Citrus Park? 🤔
Someone dropped a Cinny scroll
Which mall and where?!
I have a few mall floor fossil photos myself.
Which mall and next to what store?
Just a spot iron man landed this one time
There's lots of buildings with stone slabs containing fossils.. I remember a bank in downtown Ogden..black stone slab exterior walls..lots of fossils in the stone.. I enjoyed looking at them when I was young .
What would something like that be worth to A collector or somebody that wanted it at there house . I’m going take my son tomorrow for another walk around the mall and go fossil searching should be fun
Not really. These things are very common. You can get your very own ammonite in much better condition for tens of dollars at almost any geology themed gift shop. I got mine at Luray caverns for $15.
It's a Mennonite fossil
Ammonite perhaps? Mennonite is a religion!
god this sub is lame 😭
You can try posting in r/fossilid
Cooler than the living fossils getting their morning stroll exercise in the mall.
Another fossilized ammonite... In Travertine
That's physically impossible. Travertine is a terrestrial/freshwater calcium carbonate and ammonites are a marine species.