This is a non-crash resistant bollard, it's usage is to socially discourage people from driving over it, but is not set to a standard to prevent destruction due to the limited amount of damage that might be caused by driving through it compared to the damage to the vehicle.
Plus, even if this had pickup truck crash resistance rated under ASTM F2656PU, a Chevy Silverado is over the weight rating that would resist. ASTM F2656PU is resistant against trucks up to 2300kg, and a Silverado weighs over 3000kg.
The ASTM standard weight rating is for crash resistance at speed, typically 30 mph or above, not for when a vehicle lightly taps the bollard with its wheel with a few inches of head start.
That's true, but that brings up an important point. A silverado is going to be roughly 3000kg and have about 300 horsepower. The math is pretty easy to calculate the power that can be generated by that accelerating into one from rest at a short distance, compared to the power the inertia that one of those moving into a bollard at speed would have.
it's mostly about torque at that point, and about the capacity of its wheels to put that torque down the road.
going with a _very_ rough estimate (so i'm gonna be rounding a lot), the numbers i found for the 300 hp version were 670-ish Nm of torque, and if we assume a tire diameter of 0.4m (a little less than 16"), and therefore radius of 0.2m, that's about 3300N of force (or 330 kg, or 700 lb, as people often like to measure).
the absolute theoretical maximum would be the weight of the vehicle divided by the friction coefficient of the tire. this is usually estimated to be around 0.7 for cars (talking about the static coefficient, if you start skidding the coefficient plummets), meaning that for every 1000 kg a car weighs, it can at best put down 700 kg of force, before the tires start skidding.
calculating with a comfy safety margin, if your bollard can hold up the weight of a vehicle, then there's no way that vehicle would be able to push it and damage it from a standstill. it would need momentum to have any chance, at which point the math changes to how much energy you can take.
you forgot about gear reduction through the transmission, differential, and torque converter so multiply force by 3~x2x4~
Tire diameter is more like 0.8m so divide by 2 as well
I will never understand why these vehicles are legal to drive in cities. Why can we not get *any* regulation on vehicle size? How many people have to die before this is even considered for regulation? (Rhetorical, I know the answer)
This implies the people who make these sorts of decisions have some sort of empathy. The only thing they're concerned with is what makes a bigger check as fast as possible.
Not the vast majority of them, certainly not within cities. Not to mention many of these oversized trucks have hilariously small beds because can size is the priority. I’ve seen cargo fit more comfortably on appropriate racks or trailers on sedans and even bicycles that don’t fit into the beds of these beasts.
There is very little these trucks can do that can’t be done by a more appropriately sized van or[one of these](https://minitrucks.net/pages/direct-import-mini-trucks)
Even in Canada and the US, trucks didn’t get this big until recently. Do North Americans suddenly have bigger cargo to haul?
Because they have a purpose.
The fact that many people who drive them don't actually need them doesn't mean there aren't legitimate use cases for trucks.
I have no idea.
I personally need to be able to tow 6500lbs and drive on "roads" that require 12 inches of clearance.
I have a jeep gladiator, it's considered a small truck and I would never want anything bigger, but some people tow much bigger loads.
Important to note, that this refers to _zulässiges Gesamtgewicht_, as in "permissible total weight".
So if a Silverado weighs 3 tons without anything else in it, it will definitely break the 3.5 ton limit. Unless it can only have like 500kg of extra load, which would make it even more pointless.
may I suggest smart reactive bollards?
Like ones with small yield explosives but also a small computer so it only goes off when hit by a pavement princess
It really depends on how they are built. The high-end government specification for vehicle bollards will shred a 40-ton truck going at highway speeds. A typical parking lot bollard is a 4" diameter steel pipe embedded in a concrete foundation. In this video it seems that they cheaped out on building the foundation.
Yeah, the bollard I was talking about was bolted down because they knew forklifts would bang em regularly and it’s cheaper to replace some bolts than to repair the floor when it crumbles from forklift attacks
A pretty drunk one seems like it, also that's not a bollard more like a pole placed into the ground, bollards should be installed much deeper about 50cm deep into concrete connected to other bollards, wheel should have come off and bollard only minor damage
this was decoration
If it's the kind I think it is then it's plastic and made to come right out like that, a lot of places use them in parking lots to try and keep people where they need to be without fucking the customer's vehicles up when ignored
Same kind that buys wank tanks. Fun fact: I'm defending in court from property damage charges on a car that did just that. Hit me and kept driving xD I might actually lose and gain criminal record is sad part. Think I'm gonna write a post here sometimes about it
"Property damage charges on a car that did just that ... Hit me and kept driving". So if the charge is property damage the only way I can see is they then threw something at the vehicle and damaged it, or followed them and took vengeance on the vehicle. If the vehicle is driving away you won't have a self defence argument. I feel like there should some defence that would apply here - considering once-upon-a-time provocation could be a defence for fucking murder - automatism or something is the term. Basically an "I was so enraged I was not in control of my actions".
He was driving wrong way, I wasn't having it, he pushed me with a car, I sat on the hood. I had bruise on my leg but didn't do anything about it. Nobody believes me, no footage, bad witnesses. And this driver lies well.
Oh that part he could not deny and paid the ticket. I got him on record in court saying that he did move forward when I was already in front of the car (he stopped, refused to turn around and proceeded to ram me), but judge still looking for witnesses (they didn't show up) and started the evaluation of damages so I don't think that is going to be enough. I'm baffled, this guy should never drive again imo.
The only other thing I can think of is if some expert could prove the forces required for whatever damage you're being blamed for couldn't have been generated by a person and had to be the result of him accelerating into you. Dunno. Hope you get a breakthrough.
The idiot might win but he's point is to get money out of me, eventually. He gonna have to get in line for that. I don't pay shit I don't want, got nothing to lose, I'm permanently bankrupt and execution is impossible :) funny thing is, the idiot said he's not using the car since it happened, because of damage. I don't believe it, but if that were true than mission complete I guess xD it was over 6 months ago at this point
Where I work, in the South unfortunately, we get a lot of rednecks and almost all of them pull into the parking lot in gigantic pickup trucks they can't handle. I recently watched someone try to park one of these things and it took him about 20 seconds to align it in the parking space and he never did get it right. They don't realize how completely stupid and small they look posturing with these trucks.
It looked like they attempted to correct their steering, but then when they hit it again just went "fuck this" and kept going. I honestly don't understand it myself.
It could have been a person. If you only bump into them they follow you and claim damages on your insurance. If you keep going and reverse a few times they're less inclined to take any remedial action. Or any action.
he's confused, he's freaking out, ppl aren't trained what to do when they hit something tbh so it's all instinct which can be "back off" or "keep going fuck fuck just charge thru it ur already in it anyway!"
As a large work vehicle driver I chuckle when I see dents on larger vehicles corresponding to this obvious fuck-up.
Like why are you driving a vehicle that size without knowledge of the turning radius of the heap you’re piloting ?
>Like why are you driving a vehicle that size without knowledge of the turning radius of the heap you’re piloting ?
Oof don't get me started on most RV owners
When I worked at McDonalds we once had someone go through the drive thru with an RV (I think the inside lane too, though I don't remember exactly) and they had turned so sharply in that they basically ran over one of our menu screens. Us crew members took turns going out to look at the damage, and the screen was just a mangled, glitching, shattered and twisted mess. I don't remember if the RV driver was held responsible or if police were called, honestly the police were there pretty often so it kinda blurs together lol
Cuz who cares, it all sounds like baby talk to Real Men like this. Real Men don't look whether it was a pole or double baby-carriage or a war veteran, who gives a shit when you got Big Wheels Car for Men!! Real Men only look forward cuz thats where you're going.
(/s ______for the people in such trucks who managed to learn to read, but not make out sarcasm)
Oh, I'd love to see that happen because they would basicly admit infront of everyone to have damaged the bollard, meaning they would also have to pay to replace it
I had the late night munchies at 11:00 after hanging out at a friend's place. Wanted to grab some fast food on the way home since they're all that was open. Just wanted some fries.
Wouldn't serve me on a bike, even while bikes are legally considered vehicles under Florida law.
I'll never forgive drive-thrus.
I've walked and biked through many drive thrus. Never had a problem. Banks in particular, since they generally close the lobby about 2 hours before they close the drive thru.
It's a mixed bag, few have consistent nation-wide policies so you're basically rolling the dice on the vibes of the manager or even just whoever's working
I've very occasionally heard of guys on motorcycles having trouble, but bikes and more-often pedestrians have been refused plenty of times. Pandemic some started allowing walk-up service more often though.
if ur in walking distance of a truck stop just say ur rig won't fit thru if they keep giving u shit say "u rly want me to try and bring a truck thru here?!? it'll knock off half ur building!"
That's crazy checkers didn't want to serve me because I was walking and they have a walk up window like why do you have that if you won't use it?? I walked to the empty drive thru and got the same answer and thought maybe on a bike it would work but it seems like they wouldn't 💀💀
I've been saying that we need to intentionally install more "formative assessments" for drivers.
Install concrete walls at fairly narrow placements for entering/exiting neighborhoods (like those now famous yellow ones in Seattle). Put bollards all over the place with paint that permanently marks cars that hit them. Anyone who makes contact with these objects loses their licence until they retest.
People say we need to retest old people, but really, we need to retest anyone who has gotten worse at driving, and we need a way to identify those people.
(Also, we need to remove the center yellow line anywhere there isn't a visibility issue for passing. Some people who shouldn't be driving use it to guide them so they don't have to process the road. Nevermind that they should be watching for bikes they might need to cross the center line to safely pass)
This is a time for celebration, not mourning! Every bollard's greatest dream is to die with honor in glorious battle! Tonight this bollard drinks from the soda machine in Bollhalla!
I don't expect humans to improve. We did not evolve to drive automobiles. Rather, we should accept the L, and start designing resilient infrastructure to protect everyone.
I really wish someone would try and pass legislation to require like a CDL or other specialized license for "cars" this big. This is a tank. And the trunk is empty.
I don't need to get him to pay directly. The restaurant should just need to send the footage to the guys insurance company along with a repair bill and then the insurance company shoulddd pay out.
Then the guys monthly insurance cost should jump up by a significant amount.
Assuming the fast food employee cares enough to find the culprit.
A person who claims that "people should respect other peoples property" should just own up and not have to be chased, otherwise they are full of shit
> Assuming the fast food employee cares enough to find the culprit.
I wasn't expecting the cashier or cook to do anything but I assume the owner wouldn't mind spending 2 mins checking the number plate and then submitting a claim to the car owners insurance. Actually they could probably just call their own insurance and then their insurance will chase the car owners insurance for the money back, that's what they're there for. 100% will likely do just that.
The icing on the cake is how the driver reversed to try to correct, but didn’t even reverse far enough to get their tire off the curb before continuing forward again
That's already destruction of property. They have to pay for repairs and face a couple years of prison. People just have to sue. And surveillance cameras help.
If you run into a bollard in any non-emergency, then it should be treated the same as negligent vehicular homicide. If you are careless enough to hit a large metal pole, you are careless enough to have killed someone.
Do you really think someone incompetent enough to hit a bollard is a safe enough driver to be trusted around other humans?
The argument has nothing to do with the value of a bollard or the cheapness of human life, but rather the fact that incompetence and unsafe driving behavior paired with any vehicle is, or should be, unacceptable by anyone who values their own life at all. This is such an obvious example of a type of incompetent behavior, that it can best be described as negligently, casually homicidal if applied in traffic or around pedestrians.
Penalties to drivers should be extreme, because bad driving can, and frequently does, result in extreme consequences, oftentimes to the point that when severe consequences do not occur, it is only by good fortune, or by expensive safety measures, which would be unnecessary if only incompetent, drivers were weeded out from the driving population.
I want both drivers to face more than a simple fine. But I want the guy who literally killed someone to spend decades in prison. The other one can be out in a couple of years.
And both should loose their license. Until retaking it, but at least 20 years.
Contractor who installed that pole is negligent and may face time in court. The minimum depth for a bollard is 500mm, or 0.5 metres. We usually put ours 1000mm (1 metre) deep with fixings on the surface to width 400mm (0.4 metres). I would be surprised if that even hit the minimum. 200mm would be my guess. Poor showing.
The bollard did well though; probably damaged the wheel axle 🤣
In my home town, the big vertical dent mid-way down the length is almost as common a feature on pickups as the tinted windows. The city has also sprouted bollards like crazy.
They could have made it, but most vehicle infrastructure is designed with a ton of tolerance built in, and the size of that truck erases most of it. Most people suck at driving, but a truck like that will show everyone that you do.
When driving a vehicle that's long or large, you have to aim with your back tires, not your front. Truck drivers know this, operators of stupidly oversized, not to mention modified to be even more oversized, mall crawlers such as this one rarely do.
what? no! bollards are literally made to take the hit instead of a person or property.
massive penalties? paid to whom? the govt slush fund?
if you hit a bollard, pay to replace it, pay to fix your car, be fucking more careful, maybe buy a different vehicle.
Shame that this bollard wasn't installed properly. Could have kept this truck off the road for much longer if it was.
This is a non-crash resistant bollard, it's usage is to socially discourage people from driving over it, but is not set to a standard to prevent destruction due to the limited amount of damage that might be caused by driving through it compared to the damage to the vehicle. Plus, even if this had pickup truck crash resistance rated under ASTM F2656PU, a Chevy Silverado is over the weight rating that would resist. ASTM F2656PU is resistant against trucks up to 2300kg, and a Silverado weighs over 3000kg.
This guy bollards
Big Bolls that guy
I went to Bollardville and everybody there knew them.
The ASTM standard weight rating is for crash resistance at speed, typically 30 mph or above, not for when a vehicle lightly taps the bollard with its wheel with a few inches of head start.
That's true, but that brings up an important point. A silverado is going to be roughly 3000kg and have about 300 horsepower. The math is pretty easy to calculate the power that can be generated by that accelerating into one from rest at a short distance, compared to the power the inertia that one of those moving into a bollard at speed would have.
it's mostly about torque at that point, and about the capacity of its wheels to put that torque down the road. going with a _very_ rough estimate (so i'm gonna be rounding a lot), the numbers i found for the 300 hp version were 670-ish Nm of torque, and if we assume a tire diameter of 0.4m (a little less than 16"), and therefore radius of 0.2m, that's about 3300N of force (or 330 kg, or 700 lb, as people often like to measure). the absolute theoretical maximum would be the weight of the vehicle divided by the friction coefficient of the tire. this is usually estimated to be around 0.7 for cars (talking about the static coefficient, if you start skidding the coefficient plummets), meaning that for every 1000 kg a car weighs, it can at best put down 700 kg of force, before the tires start skidding. calculating with a comfy safety margin, if your bollard can hold up the weight of a vehicle, then there's no way that vehicle would be able to push it and damage it from a standstill. it would need momentum to have any chance, at which point the math changes to how much energy you can take.
you forgot about gear reduction through the transmission, differential, and torque converter so multiply force by 3~x2x4~ Tire diameter is more like 0.8m so divide by 2 as well
That doesn't help if the tires are skidding.
I will never understand why these vehicles are legal to drive in cities. Why can we not get *any* regulation on vehicle size? How many people have to die before this is even considered for regulation? (Rhetorical, I know the answer)
If an auto industry exec gets run over by an oversized pickup, then maybe? Otherwise it’s all just necessary sacrifices to the God of Tall Hoods
This implies the people who make these sorts of decisions have some sort of empathy. The only thing they're concerned with is what makes a bigger check as fast as possible.
oh hey, weekend plans!
Because some of these vehicles are actually used to haul shit!
Not the vast majority of them, certainly not within cities. Not to mention many of these oversized trucks have hilariously small beds because can size is the priority. I’ve seen cargo fit more comfortably on appropriate racks or trailers on sedans and even bicycles that don’t fit into the beds of these beasts. There is very little these trucks can do that can’t be done by a more appropriately sized van or[one of these](https://minitrucks.net/pages/direct-import-mini-trucks) Even in Canada and the US, trucks didn’t get this big until recently. Do North Americans suddenly have bigger cargo to haul?
Because they have a purpose. The fact that many people who drive them don't actually need them doesn't mean there aren't legitimate use cases for trucks.
How many people have a legitimate use for a truck this big?
I have no idea. I personally need to be able to tow 6500lbs and drive on "roads" that require 12 inches of clearance. I have a jeep gladiator, it's considered a small truck and I would never want anything bigger, but some people tow much bigger loads.
Love to see standards like ATSM referenced. Never thought I'd grow up to be someone who saw their value, but here we are.
> a Silverado weighs over 3000kg. Jesus Christ. How is it even legal to drive one without a heavy vehicle licence.
In USA the same license allows operation of a vehicle from 0 to 12 000kg
Meanwhile, here in germany, the license for small semis (class C1) goes up to 7500. A normal car license (class B) goes up to 3500 kg...
Important to note, that this refers to _zulässiges Gesamtgewicht_, as in "permissible total weight". So if a Silverado weighs 3 tons without anything else in it, it will definitely break the 3.5 ton limit. Unless it can only have like 500kg of extra load, which would make it even more pointless.
So I'm getting that we need the bollards to go 20 feet deep with steel reinforced concrete. Would that do it?
may I suggest smart reactive bollards? Like ones with small yield explosives but also a small computer so it only goes off when hit by a pavement princess
Give an angry warning beep, and if hit again just slags the area with thermite.
I like this idea more than I should.
Or some kind of spray to prevent you causing further damage and a call to CPS to take your kids away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d7SaO0JAHk
So uh, explosive reactive armor but on bollards? The kind used against RPGs?
Did... did you just victim blame a bollard...?
No, just the contractor that ripped off whoever paid for this to be installed.
No concrete base. Now we have a guy driving around in a pick up truck with an overly inflated ego.
They can’t withstand an infinite amount of impact, every few months the ones by the loading bays would become loose from being hit by forklifts
It really depends on how they are built. The high-end government specification for vehicle bollards will shred a 40-ton truck going at highway speeds. A typical parking lot bollard is a 4" diameter steel pipe embedded in a concrete foundation. In this video it seems that they cheaped out on building the foundation.
Yeah, the bollard I was talking about was bolted down because they knew forklifts would bang em regularly and it’s cheaper to replace some bolts than to repair the floor when it crumbles from forklift attacks
It's a safety bollard, not a security bollard. It's designed to break away to reduce damage. They're not embedded.
I feel so much safer that this guy can run over such bollards and keep on trucking.
what kind of deranged maniac just keeps going after hitting something?
A pretty drunk one seems like it, also that's not a bollard more like a pole placed into the ground, bollards should be installed much deeper about 50cm deep into concrete connected to other bollards, wheel should have come off and bollard only minor damage this was decoration
If it's the kind I think it is then it's plastic and made to come right out like that, a lot of places use them in parking lots to try and keep people where they need to be without fucking the customer's vehicles up when ignored
Same kind that buys wank tanks. Fun fact: I'm defending in court from property damage charges on a car that did just that. Hit me and kept driving xD I might actually lose and gain criminal record is sad part. Think I'm gonna write a post here sometimes about it
Why would you lose if the guy hit you?
"Property damage charges on a car that did just that ... Hit me and kept driving". So if the charge is property damage the only way I can see is they then threw something at the vehicle and damaged it, or followed them and took vengeance on the vehicle. If the vehicle is driving away you won't have a self defence argument. I feel like there should some defence that would apply here - considering once-upon-a-time provocation could be a defence for fucking murder - automatism or something is the term. Basically an "I was so enraged I was not in control of my actions".
He was driving wrong way, I wasn't having it, he pushed me with a car, I sat on the hood. I had bruise on my leg but didn't do anything about it. Nobody believes me, no footage, bad witnesses. And this driver lies well.
Can you subpoena the data from that driver's Google timeline to show they were travelling the wrong way?
Oh that part he could not deny and paid the ticket. I got him on record in court saying that he did move forward when I was already in front of the car (he stopped, refused to turn around and proceeded to ram me), but judge still looking for witnesses (they didn't show up) and started the evaluation of damages so I don't think that is going to be enough. I'm baffled, this guy should never drive again imo.
The only other thing I can think of is if some expert could prove the forces required for whatever damage you're being blamed for couldn't have been generated by a person and had to be the result of him accelerating into you. Dunno. Hope you get a breakthrough.
The idiot might win but he's point is to get money out of me, eventually. He gonna have to get in line for that. I don't pay shit I don't want, got nothing to lose, I'm permanently bankrupt and execution is impossible :) funny thing is, the idiot said he's not using the car since it happened, because of damage. I don't believe it, but if that were true than mission complete I guess xD it was over 6 months ago at this point
Oh.
[This kind.](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/1c7k3wg/absolutely_unwilling_to_acknowledge_any/)
The level of entitlement
its a parody, her videos are skits people like that exist, but this is a fictional character and this was a very successful ragebait video
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh *that* bitch again
Yeah, that vacant stare really got in my head.
drivers of oversized pick up trucks.
Where I work, in the South unfortunately, we get a lot of rednecks and almost all of them pull into the parking lot in gigantic pickup trucks they can't handle. I recently watched someone try to park one of these things and it took him about 20 seconds to align it in the parking space and he never did get it right. They don't realize how completely stupid and small they look posturing with these trucks.
It looked like they attempted to correct their steering, but then when they hit it again just went "fuck this" and kept going. I honestly don't understand it myself.
It could have been a person. If you only bump into them they follow you and claim damages on your insurance. If you keep going and reverse a few times they're less inclined to take any remedial action. Or any action.
Me, in Midtown Madness. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midtown_Madness
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Just your everyday typical truck/suv drivers...
he's confused, he's freaking out, ppl aren't trained what to do when they hit something tbh so it's all instinct which can be "back off" or "keep going fuck fuck just charge thru it ur already in it anyway!"
As a large work vehicle driver I chuckle when I see dents on larger vehicles corresponding to this obvious fuck-up. Like why are you driving a vehicle that size without knowledge of the turning radius of the heap you’re piloting ?
>Like why are you driving a vehicle that size without knowledge of the turning radius of the heap you’re piloting ? Oof don't get me started on most RV owners
When I worked at McDonalds we once had someone go through the drive thru with an RV (I think the inside lane too, though I don't remember exactly) and they had turned so sharply in that they basically ran over one of our menu screens. Us crew members took turns going out to look at the damage, and the screen was just a mangled, glitching, shattered and twisted mess. I don't remember if the RV driver was held responsible or if police were called, honestly the police were there pretty often so it kinda blurs together lol
Cuz who cares, it all sounds like baby talk to Real Men like this. Real Men don't look whether it was a pole or double baby-carriage or a war veteran, who gives a shit when you got Big Wheels Car for Men!! Real Men only look forward cuz thats where you're going. (/s ______for the people in such trucks who managed to learn to read, but not make out sarcasm)
"your yellow thing scratched my truck, I demand to speak to the manager"
Oh, I'd love to see that happen because they would basicly admit infront of everyone to have damaged the bollard, meaning they would also have to pay to replace it
Somebody please take this child's license away before they kill somebody.
Now swap that for someone's kid... And Monster Truck Brain still keeps slamming the gas!
Large vehicles are pretty good at getting cyclists this way...
Man that one was practically stick on .....
Fuck pick ups, fuck drive thrus and fuck fast food.
I had the late night munchies at 11:00 after hanging out at a friend's place. Wanted to grab some fast food on the way home since they're all that was open. Just wanted some fries. Wouldn't serve me on a bike, even while bikes are legally considered vehicles under Florida law. I'll never forgive drive-thrus.
I tried to walk up to a drive thru in college was denied. That is baggage that I carry to this day. I needed a fucking car to order Burger King 😤
I've walked and biked through many drive thrus. Never had a problem. Banks in particular, since they generally close the lobby about 2 hours before they close the drive thru.
It's a mixed bag, few have consistent nation-wide policies so you're basically rolling the dice on the vibes of the manager or even just whoever's working I've very occasionally heard of guys on motorcycles having trouble, but bikes and more-often pedestrians have been refused plenty of times. Pandemic some started allowing walk-up service more often though.
if ur in walking distance of a truck stop just say ur rig won't fit thru if they keep giving u shit say "u rly want me to try and bring a truck thru here?!? it'll knock off half ur building!"
That's crazy checkers didn't want to serve me because I was walking and they have a walk up window like why do you have that if you won't use it?? I walked to the empty drive thru and got the same answer and thought maybe on a bike it would work but it seems like they wouldn't 💀💀
Just buy a vehicle that fits your skills. 🙈
Driver has no skill
Alright I'm calling it. Reactive armour bollard. You hit it with enough force and it just blows you the fuck away.
Like a land mine bollard?
I hope the driver pays for the damage.
Send the license plate and video to that business. The truck’s insurance needs to be billed. That is how bad drivers start learning to drive better.
#bigdumbtruckclub
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I've been saying that we need to intentionally install more "formative assessments" for drivers. Install concrete walls at fairly narrow placements for entering/exiting neighborhoods (like those now famous yellow ones in Seattle). Put bollards all over the place with paint that permanently marks cars that hit them. Anyone who makes contact with these objects loses their licence until they retest. People say we need to retest old people, but really, we need to retest anyone who has gotten worse at driving, and we need a way to identify those people. (Also, we need to remove the center yellow line anywhere there isn't a visibility issue for passing. Some people who shouldn't be driving use it to guide them so they don't have to process the road. Nevermind that they should be watching for bikes they might need to cross the center line to safely pass)
Let us take a moment to remember Comrade Bollard and reflect on his noble sacrifice...
This is a time for celebration, not mourning! Every bollard's greatest dream is to die with honor in glorious battle! Tonight this bollard drinks from the soda machine in Bollhalla!
Thank you, cheers to the fallen Bollard! This made me smile
Good bollards have the penalty built in
This should require some kind of driving retest
The most offroading that truck will ever do
I bet they fuck like they drive. 3 extremely exaggerated thrusts, and then they’re done.
Cant cook or drive, my lord dude just stay home!
I don't expect humans to improve. We did not evolve to drive automobiles. Rather, we should accept the L, and start designing resilient infrastructure to protect everyone.
I really wish someone would try and pass legislation to require like a CDL or other specialized license for "cars" this big. This is a tank. And the trunk is empty.
On the drivers side too! Should not be allowed to drive
Whats the bet he never paid for the damage, but if you put one scratch on their property they would go balistic
I don't need to get him to pay directly. The restaurant should just need to send the footage to the guys insurance company along with a repair bill and then the insurance company shoulddd pay out. Then the guys monthly insurance cost should jump up by a significant amount.
Assuming the fast food employee cares enough to find the culprit. A person who claims that "people should respect other peoples property" should just own up and not have to be chased, otherwise they are full of shit
> Assuming the fast food employee cares enough to find the culprit. I wasn't expecting the cashier or cook to do anything but I assume the owner wouldn't mind spending 2 mins checking the number plate and then submitting a claim to the car owners insurance. Actually they could probably just call their own insurance and then their insurance will chase the car owners insurance for the money back, that's what they're there for. 100% will likely do just that.
Max Verstappen when Drive-Thru
The comment I was looking for. Thank you.
If you hit an obstacle, just keep going. What could possibly go wrong?
“Light trucks” should require a CDL.
This driver 100% hates out-of-state drivers, women drivers, POC drivers and older drivers because none of them know how to drive as well as him.
The icing on the cake is how the driver reversed to try to correct, but didn’t even reverse far enough to get their tire off the curb before continuing forward again
Why wasn't that bollard wearing a high-viz vest and carrying a safety flag?
Fucking pavement princess…
Oh damn, the rear left side of my car appears to be stuck. If only I had a mirror AIMED IN THAT FUCKING DIRECTION
This bollard could be your child.
That's already destruction of property. They have to pay for repairs and face a couple years of prison. People just have to sue. And surveillance cameras help.
It’s not his fault 😡 Drive thrus should be 80 ft wide to accommodate all drivers. McDonald’s is just discriminatory 😤
It came out of nowhere
If you run into a bollard in any non-emergency, then it should be treated the same as negligent vehicular homicide. If you are careless enough to hit a large metal pole, you are careless enough to have killed someone.
Absolutely not. It's property damage. Nothing more, nothing less. Do you really think a human live is worth no more than a bollard?
Do you really think someone incompetent enough to hit a bollard is a safe enough driver to be trusted around other humans? The argument has nothing to do with the value of a bollard or the cheapness of human life, but rather the fact that incompetence and unsafe driving behavior paired with any vehicle is, or should be, unacceptable by anyone who values their own life at all. This is such an obvious example of a type of incompetent behavior, that it can best be described as negligently, casually homicidal if applied in traffic or around pedestrians. Penalties to drivers should be extreme, because bad driving can, and frequently does, result in extreme consequences, oftentimes to the point that when severe consequences do not occur, it is only by good fortune, or by expensive safety measures, which would be unnecessary if only incompetent, drivers were weeded out from the driving population.
I want both drivers to face more than a simple fine. But I want the guy who literally killed someone to spend decades in prison. The other one can be out in a couple of years. And both should loose their license. Until retaking it, but at least 20 years.
Needs stronger bollards, with anti-tank mines in them so any wankpanzer that rams them goes kaboom
The kind of vehicles pickup drivers drive are all beyond their capabilities.
TUTUTUTU MAX VERSTAPPEN
That's actually funny as fuck
Traffic how the worst drivers get the most dangerous trucks
Contractor who installed that pole is negligent and may face time in court. The minimum depth for a bollard is 500mm, or 0.5 metres. We usually put ours 1000mm (1 metre) deep with fixings on the surface to width 400mm (0.4 metres). I would be surprised if that even hit the minimum. 200mm would be my guess. Poor showing. The bollard did well though; probably damaged the wheel axle 🤣
My god the driver here could actually win. For damaging a piece of property because he can’t drive his big stupid truck
Bingo. Erm, unfortunately 😕
We hand out driver’s licenses way too liberally in this country.
I mean that's why I don't drive
It only makes sense that the dumbest vehicle possible attracts the stupidest people possible
It's way too easy to get a license isn't it
“But I couldn’t see it. It was only like 4 feet tall. Not my fault 😤”
In my home town, the big vertical dent mid-way down the length is almost as common a feature on pickups as the tinted windows. The city has also sprouted bollards like crazy.
the problem here is that the truck is to big to make that turn. the driver of that truck should be charged for the repair the bollard.
Nah they could have made it, they just suck at driving (typical pickup owner)
They could have made it, but most vehicle infrastructure is designed with a ton of tolerance built in, and the size of that truck erases most of it. Most people suck at driving, but a truck like that will show everyone that you do.
Are you high? The curve of that curbing shows an easy turn, but somehow that dumb fuck had already got his left wheel up on the curb.
With a truck like that, the driver is probably used to going over curbs.
When driving a vehicle that's long or large, you have to aim with your back tires, not your front. Truck drivers know this, operators of stupidly oversized, not to mention modified to be even more oversized, mall crawlers such as this one rarely do.
yes you need to go straight a lot further than you think then turn hard.
That truck could easily make that turn.
what? no! bollards are literally made to take the hit instead of a person or property. massive penalties? paid to whom? the govt slush fund? if you hit a bollard, pay to replace it, pay to fix your car, be fucking more careful, maybe buy a different vehicle.
No. If you hit something with a car, you shouldn't be allowed to drive.