Think of how much of this guys salary would be saved for the $15 congestion charge. The products in the truck would actually get cheaper paying the charge.
True but wait charges are things, usually added if drop off has a long line of other trucks, port is closed on arrival, or anything else that makes it so the driver is available to offload but receiver is causing the wait.
Never heard of them being for traffic though, unfortunately truckers still have to eat that.
There’s usually some extra pay for entering NYC for many companies. Whether he gets it is another story and whatever it is, it probably isn’t worth this headache.
My dad was a trucker. That's just how it works. They semi-legally classify you as an independent contractor, don't give you any benefits, and pay you like that.
Is the video a behemoth sized American truck? If so, it would probably be best if the contents was shipped from near the origin to a goods terminal close to NY by train, then distributed using several smaller and more nimble trucks inside the city.
Not that it's an excuse, but rail lines into NYC aren't equipped for freight. Certainly not the stations. There are spots in Brooklyn, maybe the Bronx, where this could be a possibility, but then it's the same issue that to get stuff into Manhattan or anywhere else, it's by truck. LIC has some of these logistics terminals, but not for trains. Water and road.
NYC rails are designed for passenger travel and not freight.
I'm not sure what you're referring to as "NYC". You know NYC is not just Manhattan, right?
I can't answer unless you specify because it appears you don't know that NYC is more than and that you neither know the geography, not the history that got us to this point.
Well that's just not true. Yes, they sometimes classify you as independent contractors that fill out 1099 tax forms, but being paid is independent of that. They can pay you by mile, hour and/or per load and on top of that they pay stand-by hours if waiting for too long and going to certain areas/cities pay more, etc.
I wanted to do trucking 3 years ago but I realized how shit the wages and working conditions were and decided against it. Honestly, the next biggest reason was due to morons on the road (just like we see here) and the fuckers causing crashes.
There’s usually some extra pay for entering NYC for many companies. Whether he gets it is another story and whatever it is, it probably isn’t worth this headache.
London heavily restricts(bans) hgvs over 18 tons between 7am-9pm.
I can't think of a better alternative to the more than 15,000 lorries that enter London each day.
For reference a panamax sized ship carries 3-5k containers or 180 freight trains.
Theoretically, sure.
In reality, the infrastructure doesn't exist or was removed a long time ago, and trying to re-build it now would be astronomically expensive - not to mention fraught with legal problems.
Also, using vans instead of trucks, although smaller, means more total vehicles on the road.
But that is how it is done in Asia where space is a lot more sparce for big trucks. Yeah sure, I did see some semis in Japan, but most of it is done by trains and small trucks. Even Coca-cola refills vending machines with a small truck that can get in small alleys.
We definitely need to rebuild our train infrastructure for BOTH transportation AND long-range shipping of donestic goods. We DON'T need the abomination of 1-day shipping!
Semis are also SOOOOO bad for road maintenance too.
Eh.
Full scale replacement is impossible, but there's infrastructure for some replacement.
A major rework of Penn station is planned in the next decade or so. It shares a block with moynihan, and the Post Office. Both the post office and Madison Square Garden have loading docks, in theory a restructured pen could play host to overnight freight train drop offs and deliveries by trucks, Vans, etc.
Well who knew that when you put the most inefficient form of transport with the most high density super efficient form of housing there's gonna be major traffic????
We need the 15$ congestion charge. NYC has an amazing transport and bike network, you can always park in NJ or outside the city and take transit.
This is just more weird conservative proto-civil-war propaganda about how the cities are imminently collapsing and “real Americans” don’t deliver food to NYC anymore.
Congestion pricing will benefit delivery drivers through reducing non-commercial traffic, which is the majority of cars on the road.
Christ, visibility in American trucks is *awful*. This truck would be entirely banned from being driven in London through our Direct Vision Standards. No wonder road deaths are so high in the US…
Also there don't seem to be any extra mirrors or cameras for the front view. Hell even the cars aren't even really visible, once they're close to the truck. What about kids?
To be fair, this one also has an additional sunvisor that further reduces visibility, on top of seeming to be a Peterbilt which is a blocky design going back to the 1970's. It's a design popular with older truckers as I understand it. Most semi trucks aren't this blocky and have better viewing angles.
Commercial semi's are a whole other world of regulation, and I'd also wonder if there's some level of grandfathering involved given the basic design dates back to the 1970's.
Even in lieu of regulation, this style of truck is getting less popular explicitly due to visibility issues. They make for good highway cruisers and show trucks but are kinda starting to suck at just about anything else compared to the competition. They very rarely are sold to fleets anymore for example, almost all are owner/operator these days.
Need more european style cargo trucks. Smaller truck itself lengthwise but pulling two trailers with total length of 34 metres (at least here in finland). Still has better visibility than those old style american trucks.
Cabovers haven't been a thing here in ages. You still see some older ones going around from time to time but they mostly only exist in fixed frame trucks anymore.
Also I am pretty sure most cities ban double trailers unless they're more like the FedEx style (small single axle)
Took a look on amtrak.com for the dates I'm going, and every single train will be arriving too late for what I need to be there for (earliest arrives at Penn station at 4:52 assuming no delays, I need to be there by 5) or departs too early to leave a day earlier (can't catch a train if I'm at work) with trip times ranging from 9 hours 20 minutes to over 14 hours. By car, the exact place I need to go (a hotel near times square) is nearly a 6 hour drive exact (which if I left right after work, I'd be driving in at night when traffic hopefully isn't at its worst, between 10-12pm depending when I leave work, and hopefully just find *anywhere* that offers overnight parking, even if in a less than optimal place)
Once I'm close to NYC though (as someone else had mentioned possibly to get parking in Jersey and take transit across) as long as there is any sort of decent frequency, that is likely a better option and I'd be arriving the morning of.
> Once I'm close to NYC though (as someone else had mentioned possibly to get parking in Jersey and take transit across) as long as there is any sort of decent frequency, that is likely a better option and I'd be arriving the morning of.
getting a place in jersey city and taking the path over will save you a ton of money compared to something in midtown
Probably park at either Secaucus(most NJT lines converge, great to acceptable frequency depending on time of day, no trains and 2-4am) or Journal square(path trains, good frequency unless the absolute dead of night on the weekend)
Depending on where you're coming from could also park at one of the more suburban park and rides like Hamilton(near Trenton) or Metro Park if you'd rather drive less and take a longer train ride.
Well who knew that when you put the most inefficient form of transport with the most high density super efficient form of housing there's gonna be major traffic????
We need the 15$ congestion charge. NYC has an amazing transport and bike network, you can always park in NJ or outside the city and take transit.
My first experience as a child in gridlock traffic was in new york, and that was at least 20 years ago.
Tons of cops, and as made evident by this video, tons of reckless drivers. If they didn't have the subway, it would be hell.
I really do hope that the congestion pricing leads to at least *some* reduction of people's personal living rooms on the road.
It'd be much easier for our delivery guys to make their rounds.
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Get the friggin private cars of the streets and deliveries will work much better.
Of course people still believe the problem could be solved by adding more lanes, ecen though those would just be clogged up by additional drivers in no time.
The whiners say that congestion pricing will increase the cost of goods delivered into the city.
The whiners don't understand that actual congestion already increases the *time cost* of goods delivered into the city. And we all know time is money.
Idiots don't understand economics. They just don't want to pay for the damages that their cars cause to society.
Well who knew that when you put the most inefficient form of transport with the most high density super efficient form of housing there's gonna be major traffic????
We need the 15$ congestion charge. NYC has an amazing transport and bike network, you can always park in NJ or outside the city and take transit.
Truck driver needs to chill. Might be infuriating when people skip the line, but it's not like three more cars in front of you make a difference.
Edit: never seen this sub being so carbrain-y. Pretty sure a lot of people here have only a problem with *others* having a car, and otherwise being only virtue signaling.
That's the problem though.
They're cutting him off from the left. They're doing this to try and cut in line. These clowns shouldn't have driver's licenses.
No, it's not the problem. You're still not going to get to your destination faster.
I've been in enough traffic jams to actually realize that you should allow people to join there if you want to avoid really dangerous traffic situations.
>I've been in enough traffic jams to actually realize that you should allow people to join there if you want to avoid really dangerous traffic situations.
**SIR IF YOU WATCHED THE VIDEO YOU WOULD KNOW THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC JAM.**
>"I was here first" isn't a good mentality to have inside a vehicle.
It's called right of way. He's not obligated to yield to every single motorist who thinks they don't need to wait in line like everyone else.
You do not cut off a semi-truck and then bitch about being the 'weaker traffic participant' when you put yourself in that situation. A fucking semi-truck is not like a scooter.
And if you don't like it, turn in your driver's license. It's literally the rule you agreed to when you got it.
See, you're not even inside a vehicle and you're already getting aggressive about traffic. You might be the one who should give back his license. Driving isn't for hot heads.
Which is why someone who doesn't take driver safety seriously and thinks the rules don't apply to themselves shouldn't be behind the wheel of a motor vehicle.
Do you not get that lane is moving slow because people are cutting around and cramming the bottleneck…instead of just merging normally?? The trucker had like 20 cars cut in front of him illegally
It's slow because further up traffic isn't moving. People might not even be cutting in line just for the sake of it, but because they missed the end of the line, and this being the last opportunity.
Although I assume most of them are just cutting in line in hopes of getting there a bit faster.
However, if you don't let them switch lanes, they'll remain on the faster lanes to the left as obstacles.
If they miss the end of the line that’s on them, not the trucker who is within his lane. Do you see the white lines? You aren’t allowed to drive over them. How are they having an “ I was here first mentality” when people are literally crossing over the solid lines to squeeze in front of them.
I’m all for a late merge (legally executed ofc) but this is a different story…
No no, I get what is going on here. It's not about solving traffic problems collectively. The millionth post showing bike traffic moving a lot smother than the gridlocked car traffic isn't about solving traffic problems, if only everyone participated. It's about feeling superior because "y'all so dumb for driving your big ass trucks in the city, look at me, I'm so smart".
The traffic jam here exists because too many people want to arrive at a destination that doesn't have the necessary road capacity. What you see is a symptom, people either getting impatient and cutting in line, or not being able to safely follow traffic laws because they got surprised by the length of the traffic that has backed up.
And yes, people shouldn't be driving over the markings. But they do, and then it's a collective effort by every traffic participant to avoid it ending in a crash, while being able to put away their false sense of justice.
If you keep allowing someone to cut around you and into the gap then in the extreme case you might *never* move. It's not just three cars, it's three and then three more and so on until ... well, the end of peak time, I guess.
But given the sub we're on here, the main point is anyway that roads are not a good way to get people into a dense urban area, and in fact allowing free usage of these roads for cars makes it much less efficient to use them for freight (and buses).
No, given the sub here, it's obviously only about people trying to feel superior.
I literally got downvoted for a rather rational statement like "if you drive a large vehicle with poor visibility, you need to be extra careful".
Go figure.
> but it's not like three more cars in front of you make a difference.
This is an infuriating take. The three more cars became an additional 3 more, which became an additional 3 more, and so on. So now there's effectively a stream of cars continuously cutting in front of him with no end in sight. The progress he's making here is like a 50th of the progress he should be making if people would actually wait their damned turn. This driver is actually more chill than he should be over this shit.
Are you for real? Yes, it's an infinite stream of cars, that's why he is never going to arrive.
It certainly is not because the destination can only deal with a certain number of cars per minute.
Not even questioning what semis might have lost in a city at all.
Yes, I am sarcastic, very well noticed by you.
As I wrote, the few cars cutting in line don't change the outcome. Normal traffic is more in the order of 2k cars per hour.
Think of how much of this guys salary would be saved for the $15 congestion charge. The products in the truck would actually get cheaper paying the charge.
Shhh, then carbrains would need to acknowledge that they're just being greedy and causing every problem they complain about!
“But what about truck deliveries?!?!” -said by a non-CDL holder
Lots of truckers get paid by the mile. This guy's the one eating the cost here probably.
True but wait charges are things, usually added if drop off has a long line of other trucks, port is closed on arrival, or anything else that makes it so the driver is available to offload but receiver is causing the wait. Never heard of them being for traffic though, unfortunately truckers still have to eat that.
There’s usually some extra pay for entering NYC for many companies. Whether he gets it is another story and whatever it is, it probably isn’t worth this headache.
if it's a legitimate company they should definitely be paying the cost
My dad was a trucker. That's just how it works. They semi-legally classify you as an independent contractor, don't give you any benefits, and pay you like that.
Yeah truth be told NYC needs to have trucks stop outside the city, maybe in Jersey and have goods shipped in by train.
Is the video a behemoth sized American truck? If so, it would probably be best if the contents was shipped from near the origin to a goods terminal close to NY by train, then distributed using several smaller and more nimble trucks inside the city.
>Is the video a behemoth sized American truck? Yes it is. You can tell this is a massive truck that has no business being in NYC.
Not that it's an excuse, but rail lines into NYC aren't equipped for freight. Certainly not the stations. There are spots in Brooklyn, maybe the Bronx, where this could be a possibility, but then it's the same issue that to get stuff into Manhattan or anywhere else, it's by truck. LIC has some of these logistics terminals, but not for trains. Water and road. NYC rails are designed for passenger travel and not freight.
Incredible that massive trucks need to go through NYC. It just doesn't make sense.
I'm not sure what you're referring to as "NYC". You know NYC is not just Manhattan, right? I can't answer unless you specify because it appears you don't know that NYC is more than and that you neither know the geography, not the history that got us to this point.
Well that's just not true. Yes, they sometimes classify you as independent contractors that fill out 1099 tax forms, but being paid is independent of that. They can pay you by mile, hour and/or per load and on top of that they pay stand-by hours if waiting for too long and going to certain areas/cities pay more, etc.
Should but don't. The John Oliver piece on trucking in the US goes over how and why this is, it's a pretty shitty situation and industry
I wanted to do trucking 3 years ago but I realized how shit the wages and working conditions were and decided against it. Honestly, the next biggest reason was due to morons on the road (just like we see here) and the fuckers causing crashes.
But he'll get to drive more miles.
There’s usually some extra pay for entering NYC for many companies. Whether he gets it is another story and whatever it is, it probably isn’t worth this headache.
The products wouldn’t get cheaper. The shareholders would just make more money.
Until a competitor company made their products cheaper and put the first company out of business.
That is the most jazz-ass horn I've ever heard in my life. Straight up 7#9 chord
I thought it had a nice, smoky ring to it lol
This dude's truck played on *Speak No Evil.* This truck is in Trombone Shorty's backing band. This truck TA'ed for Walter Smith III.
Trombone Shorty reference in the wild. I upvote.
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He was actually subbing at a gig that evening. That's why he's in such a rush
*Futurama* puts it best: "Nobody drives in New York; there's too much traffic."
If there is only a way to mitigate traffic congestion 🤔
One more lane will fix it.
But weee neeeeed roads for deliveries!
Also they park their cars everywhere so lorries block pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure.
London heavily restricts(bans) hgvs over 18 tons between 7am-9pm. I can't think of a better alternative to the more than 15,000 lorries that enter London each day. For reference a panamax sized ship carries 3-5k containers or 180 freight trains.
Move the containers to an inland dock via train and make the trucks come there
Can you just use freight trains to deliver to dense cities like NYC and then have smaller trucks / vans deliver to the last couple miles?
There used to be a freight line actually in Manhattan, it's now a linear park called the [High Line.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Line)
Theoretically, sure. In reality, the infrastructure doesn't exist or was removed a long time ago, and trying to re-build it now would be astronomically expensive - not to mention fraught with legal problems. Also, using vans instead of trucks, although smaller, means more total vehicles on the road.
But that is how it is done in Asia where space is a lot more sparce for big trucks. Yeah sure, I did see some semis in Japan, but most of it is done by trains and small trucks. Even Coca-cola refills vending machines with a small truck that can get in small alleys. We definitely need to rebuild our train infrastructure for BOTH transportation AND long-range shipping of donestic goods. We DON'T need the abomination of 1-day shipping! Semis are also SOOOOO bad for road maintenance too.
Yea 1 day shipping is a huge part of the issue. "Just in time logistics" and 1/2 day shipping is part of what there's such an explosion of warehouses
Eh. Full scale replacement is impossible, but there's infrastructure for some replacement. A major rework of Penn station is planned in the next decade or so. It shares a block with moynihan, and the Post Office. Both the post office and Madison Square Garden have loading docks, in theory a restructured pen could play host to overnight freight train drop offs and deliveries by trucks, Vans, etc.
Freight trams!
In a word: no.
Well who knew that when you put the most inefficient form of transport with the most high density super efficient form of housing there's gonna be major traffic???? We need the 15$ congestion charge. NYC has an amazing transport and bike network, you can always park in NJ or outside the city and take transit.
This is just more weird conservative proto-civil-war propaganda about how the cities are imminently collapsing and “real Americans” don’t deliver food to NYC anymore. Congestion pricing will benefit delivery drivers through reducing non-commercial traffic, which is the majority of cars on the road.
Proto-civil-war? Maybe I'm just tired, but I can't make that make sense in my head lol can you explain?
wishful antebellum 2 thinking
This is what happens when you tear out all the freight rail
Christ, visibility in American trucks is *awful*. This truck would be entirely banned from being driven in London through our Direct Vision Standards. No wonder road deaths are so high in the US…
Right? I knew they're huge, but never seen a view from inside.
Also there don't seem to be any extra mirrors or cameras for the front view. Hell even the cars aren't even really visible, once they're close to the truck. What about kids?
To be fair, this one also has an additional sunvisor that further reduces visibility, on top of seeming to be a Peterbilt which is a blocky design going back to the 1970's. It's a design popular with older truckers as I understand it. Most semi trucks aren't this blocky and have better viewing angles.
But this one is still allowed on the road.
Commercial semi's are a whole other world of regulation, and I'd also wonder if there's some level of grandfathering involved given the basic design dates back to the 1970's. Even in lieu of regulation, this style of truck is getting less popular explicitly due to visibility issues. They make for good highway cruisers and show trucks but are kinda starting to suck at just about anything else compared to the competition. They very rarely are sold to fleets anymore for example, almost all are owner/operator these days.
Need more european style cargo trucks. Smaller truck itself lengthwise but pulling two trailers with total length of 34 metres (at least here in finland). Still has better visibility than those old style american trucks.
Cabovers haven't been a thing here in ages. You still see some older ones going around from time to time but they mostly only exist in fixed frame trucks anymore. Also I am pretty sure most cities ban double trailers unless they're more like the FedEx style (small single axle)
That vehicle looks like a train inside, first time for me to see.
As a new yorker, I can vouch for this. Its a nightmare.
I'm gonna end up having to drive in NYC later this year and these vids always make me anxious for it
Be ready to become the worst version of yourself in order to get anywhere. Source: I live in NYC.
So be sure to take the truck if I want a hope of surviving, got it (at the expense of parking)
If you don't need to drive then park outside NYC either in NJ or north of Bronx and take the train in. Many visiting out of towers do this.
As long as it isn't too much extra time, that may be wise
nah you’ll probably end up saving time if you park in jersey or westchester and take the train into manhattan.
I’d rather just stay in the tower.
No because you're going to have even more issues with the truck
I've also got a hatchback should EV charging not be an issue, just more concerned about how much I need to "fight" for space.
and you can't use public transit because why?
Because I live in a different state and taking the train would take too long and a flight would be equally impractical.
Best option is to park near a train station outside the city IMO
I actually did some looking, seems there's actually parking right by the hotel as long as I can tolerate overnight traffic
I’m curious for you what would the diff have to be time wise for you to take the train versus driving.
Took a look on amtrak.com for the dates I'm going, and every single train will be arriving too late for what I need to be there for (earliest arrives at Penn station at 4:52 assuming no delays, I need to be there by 5) or departs too early to leave a day earlier (can't catch a train if I'm at work) with trip times ranging from 9 hours 20 minutes to over 14 hours. By car, the exact place I need to go (a hotel near times square) is nearly a 6 hour drive exact (which if I left right after work, I'd be driving in at night when traffic hopefully isn't at its worst, between 10-12pm depending when I leave work, and hopefully just find *anywhere* that offers overnight parking, even if in a less than optimal place) Once I'm close to NYC though (as someone else had mentioned possibly to get parking in Jersey and take transit across) as long as there is any sort of decent frequency, that is likely a better option and I'd be arriving the morning of.
> Once I'm close to NYC though (as someone else had mentioned possibly to get parking in Jersey and take transit across) as long as there is any sort of decent frequency, that is likely a better option and I'd be arriving the morning of. getting a place in jersey city and taking the path over will save you a ton of money compared to something in midtown
Money ain't the concern, I wouldn't have even entertained the thought of driving if it was lol
Probably park at either Secaucus(most NJT lines converge, great to acceptable frequency depending on time of day, no trains and 2-4am) or Journal square(path trains, good frequency unless the absolute dead of night on the weekend) Depending on where you're coming from could also park at one of the more suburban park and rides like Hamilton(near Trenton) or Metro Park if you'd rather drive less and take a longer train ride.
Coming from a ways away so a 30 minute gap between driving and not driving isn't much lmao
Some of em could be an hour depending on time of day if you manage to just miss a train
[https://www.reddit.com/r/AskNYC/s/QDKRu4qCiD](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskNYC/s/QDKRu4qCiD)
Well who knew that when you put the most inefficient form of transport with the most high density super efficient form of housing there's gonna be major traffic???? We need the 15$ congestion charge. NYC has an amazing transport and bike network, you can always park in NJ or outside the city and take transit.
If only there was one more lane! /s
My first experience as a child in gridlock traffic was in new york, and that was at least 20 years ago. Tons of cops, and as made evident by this video, tons of reckless drivers. If they didn't have the subway, it would be hell.
I really do hope that the congestion pricing leads to at least *some* reduction of people's personal living rooms on the road. It'd be much easier for our delivery guys to make their rounds.
This is also an issue with enforcement. Drivers should get a massive fine for being in the white area. This is just dangerous
The one more lane folks not understand how lanes work, how surprising.
Car people hate other car people and wonder why non-car people also hate them
Ah the infamous BQE tunnel split. They added an additional lane that I think was pretty good. But yea. This sucks
Hol' up, they got one more lane and it didn't fix the issue? That can't be right.
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Get the friggin private cars of the streets and deliveries will work much better. Of course people still believe the problem could be solved by adding more lanes, ecen though those would just be clogged up by additional drivers in no time.
The trucker simply needs to understand that the other carbrains' time is more valuable than his. /s
Good drivers will sometimes miss there exit while bad drivers will never miss there exit
They are literally just causing more traffic
The whiners say that congestion pricing will increase the cost of goods delivered into the city. The whiners don't understand that actual congestion already increases the *time cost* of goods delivered into the city. And we all know time is money. Idiots don't understand economics. They just don't want to pay for the damages that their cars cause to society.
Well who knew that when you put the most inefficient form of transport with the most high density super efficient form of housing there's gonna be major traffic???? We need the 15$ congestion charge. NYC has an amazing transport and bike network, you can always park in NJ or outside the city and take transit.
People = Shit.
Truck driver needs to chill. Might be infuriating when people skip the line, but it's not like three more cars in front of you make a difference. Edit: never seen this sub being so carbrain-y. Pretty sure a lot of people here have only a problem with *others* having a car, and otherwise being only virtue signaling.
That's the problem though. They're cutting him off from the left. They're doing this to try and cut in line. These clowns shouldn't have driver's licenses.
No, it's not the problem. You're still not going to get to your destination faster. I've been in enough traffic jams to actually realize that you should allow people to join there if you want to avoid really dangerous traffic situations.
>I've been in enough traffic jams to actually realize that you should allow people to join there if you want to avoid really dangerous traffic situations. **SIR IF YOU WATCHED THE VIDEO YOU WOULD KNOW THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC JAM.**
It's a jam, because that particular lane is moving very slowly. "I was here first" isn't a good mentality to have inside a vehicle.
>"I was here first" isn't a good mentality to have inside a vehicle. It's called right of way. He's not obligated to yield to every single motorist who thinks they don't need to wait in line like everyone else.
As I wrote, that's a very bad mentality to have in a vehicle. Especially against weaker traffic participants.
You do not cut off a semi-truck and then bitch about being the 'weaker traffic participant' when you put yourself in that situation. A fucking semi-truck is not like a scooter. And if you don't like it, turn in your driver's license. It's literally the rule you agreed to when you got it.
See, you're not even inside a vehicle and you're already getting aggressive about traffic. You might be the one who should give back his license. Driving isn't for hot heads.
Which is why someone who doesn't take driver safety seriously and thinks the rules don't apply to themselves shouldn't be behind the wheel of a motor vehicle.
Do you not get that lane is moving slow because people are cutting around and cramming the bottleneck…instead of just merging normally?? The trucker had like 20 cars cut in front of him illegally
It's slow because further up traffic isn't moving. People might not even be cutting in line just for the sake of it, but because they missed the end of the line, and this being the last opportunity. Although I assume most of them are just cutting in line in hopes of getting there a bit faster. However, if you don't let them switch lanes, they'll remain on the faster lanes to the left as obstacles.
If they miss the end of the line that’s on them, not the trucker who is within his lane. Do you see the white lines? You aren’t allowed to drive over them. How are they having an “ I was here first mentality” when people are literally crossing over the solid lines to squeeze in front of them. I’m all for a late merge (legally executed ofc) but this is a different story…
No no, I get what is going on here. It's not about solving traffic problems collectively. The millionth post showing bike traffic moving a lot smother than the gridlocked car traffic isn't about solving traffic problems, if only everyone participated. It's about feeling superior because "y'all so dumb for driving your big ass trucks in the city, look at me, I'm so smart". The traffic jam here exists because too many people want to arrive at a destination that doesn't have the necessary road capacity. What you see is a symptom, people either getting impatient and cutting in line, or not being able to safely follow traffic laws because they got surprised by the length of the traffic that has backed up. And yes, people shouldn't be driving over the markings. But they do, and then it's a collective effort by every traffic participant to avoid it ending in a crash, while being able to put away their false sense of justice.
If you keep allowing someone to cut around you and into the gap then in the extreme case you might *never* move. It's not just three cars, it's three and then three more and so on until ... well, the end of peak time, I guess. But given the sub we're on here, the main point is anyway that roads are not a good way to get people into a dense urban area, and in fact allowing free usage of these roads for cars makes it much less efficient to use them for freight (and buses).
No, given the sub here, it's obviously only about people trying to feel superior. I literally got downvoted for a rather rational statement like "if you drive a large vehicle with poor visibility, you need to be extra careful". Go figure.
> but it's not like three more cars in front of you make a difference. This is an infuriating take. The three more cars became an additional 3 more, which became an additional 3 more, and so on. So now there's effectively a stream of cars continuously cutting in front of him with no end in sight. The progress he's making here is like a 50th of the progress he should be making if people would actually wait their damned turn. This driver is actually more chill than he should be over this shit.
Are you for real? Yes, it's an infinite stream of cars, that's why he is never going to arrive. It certainly is not because the destination can only deal with a certain number of cars per minute. Not even questioning what semis might have lost in a city at all.
Wtf? We're you trying to be sarcastic in your first post? Cause you're kinda contracting yourself now.
Yes, I am sarcastic, very well noticed by you. As I wrote, the few cars cutting in line don't change the outcome. Normal traffic is more in the order of 2k cars per hour.