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SageSpliter

Negative, navori bonus damage out damage infinity edge now at 80% crit and is really close (less then 10 damage apart) with 60%. Plus when we don’t crit our lows aren’t as *low* Damage amp on passive and ult is significant as well. We make great use of the refreshing CD passive, both Q and auto attacks proc it ON barrels. Don’t overthink it lol. Triforce with shojin/RAV hydra/hullbreaker and 60% crit might be good tho. Def less damage but if you can split push better then THATS worth it.


KinKi_Kat

I said less than 80% crit, and example builds were all 40%


SageSpliter

At 60% damage difference is less then 10 lol. Why give up so much consistency AND damage. Triforce builds with a heavy split push play style might be worth checking out


udMohicano

Triforce it's good now, Hullbreaker should be core on this, then DD for cdr and survivability. Then you can decide, if crit is worth i'd go BT Stormrazor/Shielebow.


SageSpliter

I’d reckon shieldbow for a triforce build, lifeline passive + crit scaling on passive. Steraks isn’t bad either right especially with hullbreaker but that limits how much crit you can build.


udMohicano

Sure, I like Steraks more actually (and if Hullbreaker wasn't busted I would go for It), but Shieldbow has crit XD


KinKi_Kat

60% might be pushing it, I'll change it to 40% as this would line it up more with the old 50% crit builds


EstablishmentBig4046

People gotta accept IE is dead


KinKi_Kat

Bro didn't even read the post


Gp-is-not-broken

In my opinion more stable bruiser-crit build is ER > IE > Shojin > Sterak\`s > LDR/MR When sterak\`s is activated - you have shield, tenacity and ms from shojin while you have 700 bonus hp and 560 shield with 60 seconds cooldown (compare to cringebow with 90 seconds and 500 hp shield at lvl 18) I playing with IE + Shojin and i told you that shojin gives more FLAT haste while navori gives % haste from autos (that is useless for gp because he is not lucian) so with shojin in full build you have 9.85 seconds cd on your E against 10-11 seconds with navori


KinKi_Kat

This is fair, and also why I put shojin as may be core


Alternative-Fun-6067

this guy totally forgot the passive scaling with navori, and probably never did double poassive reset in his life. kek playing GP and spamming Q like a retard


Siegh_Art

I will never understand people thinking its a good idea to build a jack of all trades with crit build. Critical chance by essence means that you want as much crit as possible because a non-crit anihilates the value of the gold you investing in critical strikes. If you want to go bruiserplank (tanky and high base dmg / pen), go with triforce/rav/hull as SageSpliter said. Serylda sounds awfull as the passive of the item won't stack with your E or R. Also we just got a lot of cdr back, why do you feel the need to rush more AH than before considering it has a diminishing return value ?


Gp-is-not-broken

People build some tanky/bruiser items with crit on gp because if you build 100% crit - you squishy piece of shit that can be bursted down by any assassin/mage or any adc With bruiser item you have little more opportunity to survive and outplay When build full bruiser - you deal zero damage from barrels and still can be oneshotted


Siegh_Art

I dont know I played exclusively full crit gp this season and got to master 250lp so I’d say it’s pretty viable. Being made of paper is only a problem with bad positioning considering you can deal 3/4 of ennemy team hp


KinKi_Kat

Again then why would you go quickblades as it has even more diminishing returns and shoves you into going at least 80% crit. Idk if you've ever wanted build variety and its fine if you'd like to build er quick blade collector into ldr every game but I'm sure some people might want to try shojin and opt for more consistent cdr rather than the aa gimmick with the added bonus of 400 hp. Also again, seryldas is a huge Stat stick. Even without the passive it is hugely gold efficient I think I mentioned this in the post


No-Development-5576

This is what I love about this upcoming buff, it actually allows us to go builds other than navori without having the consequence of shit barrel cooldowns. We can go triforce, IE, Youmuus, Dusk and anything that suits us fancy without having to wait a millennium for our most damaging spell.


Additional-Basil-900

I think if you ean't to make a crit bruiser hybrid Navori is probably better since you can get away with AAing more no ?


KinKi_Kat

The real reason you'd go ie over quickblades is the ability to buy shojin which has a decent statline. AAing more is harder without as a bruiser items don't give as