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LowRub

Very strange, almost looks like someones been stripping it purposefully. It's a Norway Maple, fungus can destroy the bark, such as Hypoxylon Canker, but this honestly looks like its been done on purpose as the tree looks very healthy otherwise. It's likely to die from here.


toby_preston

Yes one of my friends did it as a “joke” not realising they’ve most likely just killed the tree. Is there nothing I can apply or wrap it in to maybe keep it alive?


mc_atx

What kind of crackheads are you hanging out with???


Misanthropyandme

Crackheads dont have the patience. This is meth, with the promise of more meth under the bark.


mc_atx

I wonder how he felt when he peeled the very last piece of bark off the tree and didn’t get his reward.


forgetaboutem

Your friend 100% killed the tree, there is no chance of recovery. It might live a year or so, but there's absolutely 0 chance of saving it. this is called "girdling" a tree and its done by arborists to guarantee a tree dies. Your friend has cost you hundreds of dollars to buy a new tree, and more to remove and dispose of this one when it inevitably dies.


Tomatotaco4me

We just bought a much smaller maple tree than this for $350, and I think OP deserves a large replacement tree for a lot more. What a stupid prank


dippocrite

“Friend”


Sk8terRaider

=Stupid


Weird-Appearance-199

“Prank”


mira_poix

And the tree and stump removal on top.


Yoda2000675

Yeah, buying and planting a tree that large can easily be $5,000 or more


Clw89pitt

Plus, the cost of removing the murdered one.


Warp-n-weft

Removing the murdered “friend”?


BIG_MUFF_

r/treelaw


mahdicktoobig

*it was just a joke bro. I’m not paying $3.5k, there’s no way that’s “half”*


forgetaboutem

Seriously... I cant imagine how stupid someone would have to be to not realize this is a catastrophic thing to do. Go over to his house and smash in his game console or computer. Equally as funny a 'joke'. Way cheaper to replace too.


CrazyMildred

Or go peel the skin off the "friend" and see how they like it.


Tactical_Chandelier

Username... yeah


ThighsofJustice

:,D


mahdicktoobig

Yo


Sly_Pooper_

LOL YOUR NAME


HighContrastRainbow

OP said in a different sub that the friend was drunk, not that it was a joke.


Mochilero223

That's a wild thing to do drunk. That looks almost perfect.


Drunkenly_Responding

The extreme form of someone peeling the label off their beer bottle. This took a lot of effort, who TF wants to expend that much energy while drinking? I used to just want to sit & chat, not do surprise-demo on my friend's tree like an asshole


eukomos

Drunk and also abusing adderall.


AngryPrincessWarrior

Seems methy to me.


MokesMcFappy

same thing


HighContrastRainbow

Maybe it was a drunk joke before they were sloppy drunk? 🤷‍♀️ Really wild thing to do, though, yes.


DeepWedgie

I always hate the drunk excuse.


McGusder

or get a lawyer


clh1nton

r/treelaw


schnippisch

Worse yet, to kill a tree you only need a small ring near the bottom and you may get lucky it stays upright for a good while to give some value to insects that thrive on dead wood. Not great in your garden but in woodlands it's a great way to create diversity if you need to create some space. But this, is insane.


Witty_Commentator

If memory serves, I believe it only takes a one inch strip completely around the tree to kill it. 🫤


Yoda2000675

That sounds right. I’ve seen fruit trees killed from weedeaters girdling them at the bottom, so it doesn’t take much


darthfiber

Agreed I’d make them pay for removal and a new mature tree.


Cowplant_Witch

Oh that is so sad. It was beautiful.


HJSlibrarylady

More like thousands of but 10s of thousands. Look at r/treelaw. Your friend is not funny or your friend.


pastelpigtails

All I'm going to say is have the friend pay for a new tree.


Whale222

“Friend”


lminer123

Alternatively, his friend performed a valuable ecological service by removing the invasive Norway maple from his local ecosystem 😂 Edit: ok guys I learned my lesson, I won’t make jokes about trees anymore


AdOk1965

How can you tell it's invasive? OP didn't mention where they live


forgetaboutem

I appreciate that but let me introduce to you this wonderful thing called "consent" when it involves things that dont belong to you


Leot4444

I don't think he was serious about that, maybe he was just tryng to see the positive among the sea of shit.


lminer123

That was kinda my goal yah, maybe I shoulda been more clear that killing someone’s tree is definitely still a dick move


hatchjon12

Sounds insane or malicious.


LowRub

Nah it's most definitely killed the tree.


lightningspree

It's r/treelaw time


lizzyelling5

OMG this is an awesome sub I'm so glad you shared. Something about being in my mid thirties has made me much more interested in both trees and law.


sunshineandcheese

"something about being in my mid thirties has made me much more interested in both trees and law" As a forester nearing mid thirties, I feel like I need this on a shirt lol


WomanOfEld

I can make that happen!


AngryPrincessWarrior

Have you gotten excited by correctly identifying a bird yet? It’s one of the joys of aging lmao


trtreeetr

What a douche


slimongoose

No, it's called girdling. The living part of the tree is bark and inside is just structure. Your friend basically yanked out the veins and arteries. I'm shocked at how little basic science knowledge people have. Reminds me of posts where people take a handful of seeds and plant them by pouring one heap on the ground. I don't understand what was the endgame. You should invite your friend to take down the tree as that's just a project now and purchase another to replace.


sunshineandcheese

I remember a few years ago seeing an infographic about different types of knowledge - it broke everything in the world down into like 9 different categories. One of which was nature / the natural world. It is just astounding how little people can know about the natural world anymore.


monsteramyc

People who live in cities are only exposed to street trees (if the city even supports them) and small green areas for recreation. A lot of people live in cities


sunshineandcheese

It's true. Sad (in my eyes) but true. Based on what I've heard at natural resource conferences, there is a continuing trend of increasing outdoor recreation in more urban populations. Hopefully with that comes knowledge and appreciation!


genesurf

On a nature trail near me, some kid with a machete hacked into the side of a big tree for no apparent reason. Just to chunk the bark off and test out his blade, I think, maybe 15 minutes of "fun" if that. The wound is was open and weeping, and there's no way the tree can heal over it. So eventually the tree is going to die. Probably the kid didn't even realize what he'd done.


paulute

Cambium layer


AlbertoVO_jive

There was a so called "arborist" in another thread OP made that said yea the bark will regrow since it's so early in the season. Unfortunately, that defies basic biology.


slimongoose

Maybe cross our fingers that its cork or cinnamon.


Azure_Philo

You should look up r/treelaw, if you want to go the legal route


toby_preston

I don’t think i’m gonna go down the legal route but i’ll definitely be making him pay for removal and replacement. Thanks everyone for your help and advice


Askymojo

Hopefully your friend, despite acting like a dumbass here, steps up and does the right thing here. It will definitely tell you if he's a friend worth keeping at least. Between proper tree removal and stump-grinding and replacement of a similar size tree (trees this size are expensive), this could be $1,500+ of damage and that's on the low end.


Tomatotaco4me

I’d think more like $2500+ when all is said and done to be honest. Maybe it just depends on the area but where I live the removal likely costs around $1500-$2000. Expensive prank, and cruel to boot


Fariic

“Where you live” is probably a big part of the cost. I’m having 3 trees removed and 3 more heavily pruned at a cost of $3600. At least where I live, it doesn’t cost nearly as much as people would expect. The person you responded to is probably a lot closer with the included cost to actually replace the tree.


Tomatotaco4me

Removal and pruning is expensive where I live, and it’s been a while since we had it done. We have 3 cedars and 2 Douglas firs, and a few maples and fruit trees. Our neighbor had a mature cedar removed and it was pretty expensive, obviously it was way bigger than OPs maple though


PipHarsh

I could see paying that if it’s a very tall tree near a structure but this tree looks like it’s about 15-20 ft tall. Where I live I’d saw it down and burn it


umamifiend

Yeah. This isn’t a joke- your ‘friend’ isn’t funny and after he pays for removal and replacement I hope he is removed from folks allowed at your home. Really shitty destructive behavior. Is this seriously an adult? This is some teenage property damage bullshit. What a freaking idiot.


MycologistPutrid7494

If he refuses to take care of it, you definitely should go the legal route. Your friend is a moron. Even if he didn't know it'd kill the tree, it still permanently altered the appearance of something that wasn't his. 


draconianfruitbat

Unsolicited advice: Please don’t agree on a dollar amount until you get a handle on the termites/carpenter ants situation in your neighborhood, which could threaten your house as well. Dead tree + roots attract and then the industrious little bastards go from there. Sorry.


BarnaclePizza

(While banging on table) “TREE LAW! TREE LAW!”


crustmonster

why did they do it?


bluecat2001

I guess he should be “former” friend. What is next? Burning your house down?


The-Cursed-Gardener

Gather your evidence and take them to court to replace/repay you for your $1000+ tree they destroyed.


CaptainObvious1313

That’s not your friend.


Drink_Covfefe

Time for small claims court. Thats easily 1k+ in property damage.


PermiePagan

The bark is the living part of the "tree", the wood inside is like the bones. What your friend did was like ripping all the skin & flesh off an animal, there's no way to "save" it anymore. The "tree" is gone. I know you said you're not going to go the legal route, but consider if you think this friend will still be so willing to pay for removal and replacement when the costs go into the several thousands of dollars. That's a pretty old, decorative maple, I could see a replacement being $5-10k depending where you live.


ImranRashid

Is your friend an idiot? What kind of joke is this?


Playswith_squirrel

What’s the joke?


Cautious-Taste-9209

Nah, your friend definitely killed your tree! That sucks, maples approaching that size would likely cost a few thousand if not close to 10,000… I personally would sue your ”friend” for damages


mdixon12

You should call a lawyer and sue your "friend". This is a crime, it's not a joke.


BoopLikesTacos

Your "friend" owes you a new tree.


TheRealKimberTimber

WHAT? What was the joke? What were they trying to get a chuckle over by doing this? I’d be devastated. I’m devastated for you.


GorgeWashington

What the fuck. That's like a thousand dollars for removal, plus 3-500 for a replacement and about 10 years growth. What an absolute asshole.


-secretswekeep-

Does your friend do meth?


New_girl2022

"Friend"


galloway188

Jokes on your friend now as he needs to buy you a new fucken tree!


Allfunandgaymes

Ex friend hopefully. Who the fuck destroys a tree as a joke?


lojafan

You're "friend" is dumb. I'd get new friends.


TVLL

Your “friend” is an idiot. Dump them before they do something more stupid with worse consequences. “It was just a prank, bro!”


Eringobraugh2021

What an idiot "friend"! Seriously, fucking google something before doing it.


whistlerbrk

cool friend OP


about-time

That is not a friend.


HorzaDonwraith

All you friend if they would live of you peeled 80% of their skin off.


Unhappy-Quiet-8091

Your friend owes you a new tree.


Primary-Border8536

Joke? I thought they were drunk and peeled it off


AngryPrincessWarrior

r/treelaw You’re about to find out how good of a friend this really is. They destroyed your property. I hope they make it right.


Devils_Advocate-69

All it takes is a few inch ring of bark removal to kill it. That’s how people kill trees. He’s not your friend. He’s a drunk.


rilo_cat

bizarre for someone to think this is a joke. i wonder if they’d like to be skinned alive?


ManIsFire

You need new friends.


EzekielSMELLiott

Stop reposting and just ask a highly rated arborist near you


WolfSilverOak

That's a Crimson King Maple, not just Norway.


Primary-Border8536

On a serious note like a maples bark shouldn’t be this easily peel-able? It probably already had issues…..


Beingforthetimebeing

I wondered about this myself!


Floofleboop

Very strange joke, and it's always sad to lose a tree, so I am really sorry this happened to you. Not sure where you are located, but if you are in North America and want a silver lining: in most areas of NA Norway maple is considered invasive, so maybe this is a good chance to plant something else.


lminer123

Honestly I consider Norway maple to be pretty insidiously invasive. They look nice a quickly grow into a large shade providing tree, but they spread like wildfire (at least in New England), shade an immense amount of light later on, and don’t seem to grow “smart” (not sure what the term is) and by that I mean sending out hundreds of longgg branches prone to falling. I really really hate how they’ve replaced so many of our native trees


Floofleboop

They were seen by many in the horticultural industry as a miracle tree: tolerant of urban conditions, fast growing, disease resistant, and they come in variety of attractive cultivars. Unfortunately they don't play nicely with local flora in North America. Here in Nova Scotia, there's a lot of talk about their propensity for snapping in windstorms, but I don't know how well founded that idea is.


lminer123

I don’t know if the thousands of pounds of fallen branches in my back yard are acceptable as scientific evidence, but I’m leaning towards them not being the most sturdy in wind lol


Floofleboop

Haha, that's fair, but I should add that I meant when compared to native maples. We have a lot of red maples on our property, and they seem to provide an almost never ending supply of firewood...


ThatWeirdTexan

Seems to be that they suffer from the same malady as the Bradford Pear, growing all of their branches from the same center point. The resulting mass and wind load is too much, and they break at the big common joint.


lminer123

They share the same pruning procedure too, at least in my opinion lol


ThatWeirdTexan

Definitely, and with prejudice?


lminer123

One horizontal cut, as close to the ground as possible


Mayor__Defacto

The big problem is the insanely aggressive roots. They suck up all the water.


ben-zee

Hi from Ottawa! We had remove ours this week. It split partway in a derecho a couple of years ago, and we didn't know until an arborist came recently that they don't heal.


sunshineandcheese

Followup to say if they are in North America, planting an oak suited to the climate is always an excellent option


Separate_Slice9706

I'd be so sad if someone did this to my garden. I wouldnt allow this person back onto my property personally. They are too thoughtless.


IrrationalPanda55782

It’s criminal, too, right? It’s gotta be destruction of property at least.


timshel42

hey man i killed your dog, its just a prank bro!


AdOk1965

Exactly this: a friend of my former partner thought it would be *funny* to put his arms, up to the elbow, into my tank to "fake-grab" my fish during a party we were hosting at our place I was in the kitchen, and when I went back to the living room, I immediately asked him to take his arms out, but it was too late: It was during the summer, and he was covered in sunscreen; my fish died a few hours later ... I will never get those people


koala_T69

What happened after that? Did he get kicked out or slapped?


zatchrey

Hey man I released a box of inland taipans, the most venomous snake in the world, into your house. Chill! It's just a prank!


superurgentcatbox

“I skinned your dog so you can slowly watch it die” 😒


CrankyCycle

[https://www.reddit.com/r/arborists/comments/1dlko4x/can\_this\_tree\_be\_saved/](https://www.reddit.com/r/arborists/comments/1dlko4x/can_this_tree_be_saved/)


hoyrup

This actually is so sad to look at.


Kyrie_Blue

Did they think bark grows back or something? I cannot fathom an adult permanently disfiguring a tree, at **someone else’s home** and thinking that is alright


Sad_Patient9011

Actually a lot of people do think bark grows back! Most people don't know anything about trees.


Kyrie_Blue

I don’t know *much* about trees, but the fact that people carve their initials in them, then revisit it later is a VERY common pop culture trope. Purely from this, I am able to deduce bark is not regenerative. I would have assumed this was not an experience unique to me, and would form a baseline in everyone’s understanding of it.


Sad_Patient9011

You'd think, but some people just aren't very good at putting 2 and 2 together. It's probably an interest thing as well. They probably just don't care about trees so they never thought about it.


Leot4444

Bark is regenerative! Just not if you remove ALL OF IT and expose the very thing that produces it in the first place. Also, depends very much on the tree! But your line of thought is right, it doesn't magically reset every month or so


Kyrie_Blue

Thanks for the info!


RandomyJaqulation

Bark does grow back on some trees from a state that looks like this, though not so thoroughly stripped. Sycamores shed substantial amounts of bark, down to a smooth new bark in patches. As do madrone, which shed their entire bark layer yearly. This isn’t exactly normal for a maple though. If the bark wasn’t ready to come off on its own, and pulled the cambium off with it, this would be a mortal wound.


Jaktheslaier

Cork is made from bark cut from sobreiros, the bark grows back after some years


remotecontroldr

Maybe they try to learn but when they go to r/trees everyone is just talking about weed.


shana104

I thought bark grows back...at least I learned something new.


MrC00KI3

That's not disfiguring, that's treeslaughter!


Kyrie_Blue

Assault & Barkery


stevosaurous_rex

Sounds like a “friend” you should lose after they pay for it


Maritzsa

A friend of yours stripped a whole tree trunk from bark as a “joke”? Wtf is that even. This would have taken so much longer than a “joke” should take. Unfriend this friend.


Clw89pitt

If that's what their friends are like, I'd hate to meet their enemies.


Maritzsa

Friend basically committed murder as a “joke”. I don’t usually consider killing plants as “murder” but, killing a established tree like this always gives me a massive heartache like someone had died.


onetwocue

I'd be mad. Especially if it's a tree that I cherish. Looks like it would've been a great shade tree for that patio.


Mayor__Defacto

Give it 10 years and it would shade the whole house. 15-20 after that it’ll crash down on the roof killing you.


saccharum9

I see you're getting some conflicting opinions about whether or not the tree will die, here's one more: The reason it was so easy to peel is related to the time of year, this is when the vascular cambium is actively producing new xylem and phloem, and it is easier to peel because of that. It's easy and fun to do when you're doing it on purpose, but frustrating when you bump the tree with equipment and take a big chunk off. The tree will almost certainly die, but it might not happen immediately. Trees can "survive" girdling for years when the xylem isn't compromised: it is able to draw water up through the xylem to the leaves, but not return the products of photosynthesis back down through the phloem, which is totally removed here. It might dry and die faster here with the amount of surface area removed. Sometimes the cambium survives in places and where that connects above and below the girdling can give the tree a chance. I've only seen that across a few inches, I would not expect it to happen here. If this is the size it looks like (~4" branches, 6" trunk?) you or your now-sober friend could reasonably handle the removal with a hand saw, making the same cuts as usual when pruning large branches--from below about 1/3d and then from above, about an inch farther away from the trunk. After removing each branch, cut the main trunk at whatever height you want it. Wear safety glasses. It might sprout if you do this, if it does and you want to work with that, select one of the sprouts from as close to the ground as possible and prune off the rest (the original stump will rot over time, so if you leave one higher up it will be weak at that point). Depending where you live, you might not want to work with the sprouts or replace with another Norway maple. That species is aggressively invasive in some ecosystems, if you live near native hardwood forests in the US you might consider something else.


baby_savage

“I see you’re getting some conflicting opinions about whether or not the tree will die, here’s one more” 😂 💀


WolfSilverOak

That's not a friend that would deliberately girdle a tree as a 'joke'. They killed your tree.


8bitbotanist

Thats wild. If you didnt know the bark is the "living" part of a tree. If its taken off theres no tree. Just a core of fiber used to transfer water and nutrients. Natives used to take the bark off the base of trees to kill it before harvesting it later, its called girdling. If your "Friend" did this I suggest going to r/treelaw for further legal action. You should be financially compensated for this. P.S. kick this person out of your life is this was their idea of a "joke"


WitchDoctorElle

Wellp, this would have ended my friendship with this person for sure. I hope they come through for you and pay the damages. This would hurt me to have a tree die and I’m sorry if you’re going through a tough time because of this.


Jacques2424

No longer a friend. Sue his ass.


ExcelsusMoose

She dead son


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L2Sing

It isn't common knowledge, though. It should be, but it isn't. This is why this post exists, in the first place, and why on the arborists sub people regularly ask about tree survival post weedeater ringing, usually multiple times per week.


SirRattington

Who the hell has the time and energy to peel an entire tree as a joke?? I genuinely can’t imagine how someone would even conceive of such a ridiculous idea, let alone actually do it. I’m wondering whether your friend is just incredibly stupid, on something, suffering from a recent brain injury or all of the above.


Sad_Dot1144

It’s like a Brazilian barkini wax


SteveLouise

r/TreeLaw You could sue.


CuteFreakshow

Damn...a crimson king . It takes a decade to grow that much. I am so sorry. A tiny sapling here in Ontario is like $300. Your ex friend should pay for all the damages, removal and replacement of the tree.


cavallinm

In your other post you said it was your drunk friend… https://preview.redd.it/58xe2q6upd8d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba2e1821d40f0d3f0abb18172ee63c0aa39cc44c


thecoloroftheskies

I was going to ask if this was the same person!


tidalphoenixes

Why did they post it on mildly infuriating when this is extremely infuriating if not devastating


Andylearns

Um he didn't say it wasn't here...


Primary-Border8536

THANK YOU


Spare_Laugh9953

Im sorry but that tree IS dead.the only Hope IS he regrow from the roots Next year but the whole tree IS dead you can cut It.The same thing happened to me a couple of years ago with another type of maple. A ram head-butted all the bark from the ground up to 1.5 metres. The top of the tree seemed alive because of the sap that was left inside but it finally died. The luck is that the following year it began to sprout from the base and grew at a spectacular speed.


theripped

You should press charges against your friend and get him to pay the full value of the tree.


iamatcha

How dumb can someone be...


youve_got_moxie

Phloem?! More like killed ‘em!


Steelpapercranes

Bud. You're gonna need to charge this 'friend', cuz they just destroyed what I estimate to be... hm... A 5-6ish inch caliper crimson king norway maple can go for well over 1000 dollars. [https://www.bigtrees4u.com/select-your-tree/shade-trees-3/maple-4/](https://www.bigtrees4u.com/select-your-tree/shade-trees-3/maple-4/) Here's one site that has the bigguns for more like 1800, but it varies and I can't really tell the size from the pics. If I were you I'd take a measurement of the trunk circumfrence, then look up prices at that size. Easier than height, generally. I'm not saying to pursue legal action, but I would honestly at least talk with them about the possibility. If they truly didn't understand, they really need to learn that destroying very expensive property is, well. Stupid. Unless they have a lot of money laying around, lol.


MrArborsexual

OP needs r/treelaw


ThenExtension9196

It’s dead.


Pretend-Panda

This tree is not going to survive.


Bay_Foxy

https://preview.redd.it/x0e47zxuke8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6741dfb2c6d1e47e5b9f0637023351ce288b110 Uh oh


DeadheadDatura

I can’t imagine keeping the company of someone like this, drunk or not. What a disgrace.


BlazinTrichomes

Your friend is stupid, and unfunny... If it were my tree I'd try to wrap something around the bare portion, cross my fingers, and hope for the best


Confident-Plant-7799

Oh no, and it's such a beautiful tree. Now I'm sad.


SlickRyq

JUST saw your other post too. Sorry about your tree.


Shenloanne

Legit thought that 1st pic was an armpit.


RedStateKitty

Could it be a crepe myrtle? Seeing the foliage will help. Crepe myrtles do shed bark every year.


Realistic_List823

Crimson red Norway maple.


eminencefront221

Your friend is a horrible human being.....wtf


Apatschinn

Hot take, but if you're in the US, then good riddance. Norway Maples are invasive, and you're better off replacing the tree now.


FujiyamaBuffSamoyed

gotta mark up for indecent exposure. srry, lad


Primary-Border8536

Dang they were so on drugs the bark loss goes up the branches This is borderline impressive


cheestaysfly

Tf kind of joke is that


Jacob-the-Wells

All bite, no bark eh?


MrC00KI3

I wonder what happens if I remove all the skin of a living being? 🤔🤔🤔 Should've tried it on themself first, just to get an educated hint.


Leot4444

PLEASE READ! YOU CAN MAYBE SAVE THE TREE. And by saving the tree i mean keeping it alive, not make it thrive again. But it may be your best bet if you want the same tree in the same position in your garden. I think that your only chance is cutting it to a stump! This way you can signal to the tree that it has in fact "a problem" and it can try to survive by putting new growth out. In this state the tree risks bad infections and the nutrients from the roots are being transferred to foliage (under the white cambium there are channels that go upwards) but not vice versa!! The energy and sugars from the foliage cannot reach the roots, and if it continues like this the whole root system will for sure die off first. You can try a slanted cut / just above a gem if you can find one that down on the tree, otherwise do a low horizontal cut and hope for the best. Please make OP read this!!!!


ThatInAHat

I wonder if you can at least use the wood for something nice


nlamber5

I would try painting it with tree safe paint. Its something.


Eather-Village-1916

r/arborists


Oh_Cosmos

I like a smooth tree, I think it's satisfying, I like how it feels. But rip tree.. you had a good life


andyman171

The tree is now smooth like his friends brain


RealisticNet1827

Yeah friends needs to remove and replace that sucks


Glitterysparkleshine

It's a nudist


Sh1n1ngM4n

You already learned that the tree is dead, but hear me out. Take off more of the bark further up, as much as you can. Cut off the smaller branches and chop down the tree. Now you can use it as decoration and maybe hang some lights in it?


AfricanTurtles

This person is not your friend. What a douche move.


subiewoo89

Can you attempt an air layer to salvage a piece of the tree?


SumoSect

Sorry friend that sucks.