[speaking at the seminar]
Creed Bratton: Two eyes. Two ears. A chin. A mouth. Ten fingers. Two nipples. A butt, two kneecaps, a penis. I've just described to you the Loch Ness monster. And the reward for his capture? All the riches in Scotland.
Believe it or not, Manhattan: “[approximately 3.1 million people in Manhattan during the work day, compared to a residential population of 1.6 million people at night.](https://wagner.nyu.edu/files/rudincenter/dynamic_pop_manhattan.pdf)”
I feel like it's gotten so much worse in recent years too. To the point where I am routinely forced to either push my way through while repeating "'scuse me" or wait for the next train.
*Much* smaller, with [660k inhabitants, 516k workers](https://eures.europa.eu/living-and-working/labour-market-information/labour-market-information-luxembourg_en), with [200k daily crossers](https://luxembourg.public.lu/en/living/mobility/pilot-project-france.html).
Pre pandemic my humble metro (core city about the population of Luxembourg) grew by a similar ratio.
Conversely, San Jose, which up until recently was the 10th largest city in the US actually loses 50k people during the day. This is because of the large tech campuses in the surrounding small towns. E.g. Apple in Cupertino or Google in Mountain View. There are more people that live in the city and work in the suburbs than vice versa.
This is my problem when I hear about the growth of, "cities", out west. Phoenix, for instance, has added more land in the last 35 years than Philadelphia has total, has a population density barely a quarter of Philly's, and the tallest building doesn't even reach 500', they're cities in name only.
People have beef with the MTA and NJT, and for good reason, but getting 1.5 million people onto a tiny island is a feat of logistics.
(Unfortunately everything is at capacity and all sorts of tunnels are either a century old, got fucked up by a hurricane, or both, and politicians have been dragging their feet for decades now.)
I just think it’s crazy that they haven’t found out a way to make a direct line from Bergen county into the city yet. Bergen country probably produces the most nyc commuters, yet it’s basically the only suburb of the city that requires a transfer to get in. But yeah other than that the NYC public transportation system is one of the best in the country.
Bristol, Tennessee used to be like this during the NASCAR races back in its peak, I don’t know what it is now but it’s definitely not 160,000 people like it was.
I was driving across country once with a band. We had a long drive the next day so we decided after the show to just drive as far as we could until maybe 1 or 2 in the morning, then get a motel.
We do a pretty good clip & decide around 1AM to start looking for the next exit with a motel sign.
The first exit with such a sign seems kinda empty & sketchy. There eventually was a motel, but it was dark & we decided to skip it & hop back on the freeway. Next exit was a long way. But we eventually come upon another exit with a motel sign. There's a light on in the window!
Unfortunately, the hotel is all booked up even though it appears to be in the middle of nowhere. We ask the proprietor if he knows what the best direction to look for a place to crash is.
He just looks at us like we're idiots (we're a band from California dude) & he says: "Well, NASCAR's in town." We stare blankly. "There are no rooms for miles. The next exit is about 20 miles down. They probably don't have any rooms. But after that... Then you're in Iowa."
I'm not sure what "Then you're in Iowa" was supposed to mean. But yeah, we didn't find a motel or hotel & eventually just pulled over to a rest stop & tried to fall asleep in the van for an hour or two.
Frickin' NASCAR.
I'm from right outside of Bristol, and you are correct. I used to get out of school the Friday before races because traffic would be so bad from people trying to get to the races
Tbf most of the other states that can make that claim are a lot less populated than PA. Even outside of Philly/Pittsburgh, PA has a good number of 70k+ cities whereas states like WV and Nebraska do not. The largest city in WV would be the 19th largest in PA.
I grew up in Lancaster PA and when I told my ex from NM I was from a small farming town he looked it up .... His town (Mountainair, NM ) had a population of 900. I forget how much he said my town had, but it was at least a million or more.
I remember on one of the ncaa football games they would have some fun facts about all the schools and I remember this one was on a few schools. It also applies to Clemson, which is my favorite team.
I went to this town in 1994. It was me, a dude from Montana, and a chick from Alaska. We were the only tourists there. This was October, but the weather was nice (rainy, but nice), and we were the only tourists in town for four days straight.
It's amazing that it's such a tourist trap now. Thanks for the early heads up, Rick Steves!
I remember that we went to the salt mines... only ones there. We ate at a local restaurant, and each of us ate an entire pizza. No one there. We walked around the town and visited the church with the bones, and we saw that they had excavated some ancient ruins below a store.
The best thing about that place is that, on the 3rd day, the clouds finally went away... and the mountains were so. much. taller!
I'm from Virginia, and we have "mountains"... but those were Freaking Mountains.
And I fucking love Rick Steves. I "discovered" Hallstatt and Gimmelwald because of him.
Haha got the early Rick Steves nod as well. My mom was obsessed with anything he recommended, and this was a one of the places we visited when I traveled with my family. It was June, I think. Wasn’t crowded at all back then. Tourists for sure, but not packed or anything.
Lots of places in Austria can be very touristy. My home town has a population of ca. 1100 and it has almost 4000 guest beds that are almost all sold out in peak weeks. It's far from the most popular tourist destination.
I was in Vienna this last weekend and holy moly was it crowded! Hot and humid too. Probably would be much better in maybe March or October. Alas I did not have a choice.
Still liked it despite being a bit overwhelmed by the crowds and sticky heat.
Now I'm in Ljubljana for a few days. I like it! Feels like it could become more tourist-crowded in the future. Maybe I shouldn't tell anyone lol.
What's great about Vienna is that tourism is very localised. Once you get away from the hotspots you don't notice it that much. Glad you liked it despite the crowds.
But yeah, Ljublijana is great.
Similar to Traverse City is Door County, Wisconsin across the lake. 30k people live there and it gets around 2.5 million tourists during the summer. It goes from a nice quiet northern Wisconsin area in the winter to a madhouse in the summer.
I had to stop at the Wall Drug Store after seeing billboard after billboard for hundreds of miles. It’s like the South of the Border place on 95 at the SC/NC border.
I’m from the Cape, grew up there and all that. When I tell people they’re like “oh your family must be rich”. Uhhhh no, my family wintered on the Cape. I worked the jobs that catered to the rich folk in the summer. The rich folk priced me out and I had to leave. Damn tourists!
Yup. My old man and his girlfriend live on the cape, but only because she bought her house back in 60's, right before the Boston elites started pushing everyone else out. They keep on top of the local politics and the main issue I always hear about is affordable housing for people working those retail jobs.
Unfortunately they're going to pull up stakes in the next year or two. From what I've heard their house requires a *lot* of upkeep and, while they're both still active, 80 years old is a bad time to be climbing a 2 story ladder to hand-clean the gutters.
Mecca, Saudi Arabia. During the haj, millions come into Mecca for religious purposes (don’t recall the activities). I predict it’ll only increase as airfares go down especially for Muslim majority countries. Indonesia comes to mind
Yeah it’s nowhere as overrun compared to places like Venice where I’d imagine there is a 1 to 3 locals and tourists ratio. There are even lines for boats for locals since it is so overcrowded. I think the haj is more unknown since it’s 3x at a very specific time period (I think 2 weeks)
This is absolutely untrue. Mecca is so crowded that during Hajj and other major religious holidays you can *only* enter the city with a pass certifying you as a pilgrim or a worker. Plus, Venice isn’t known for a bunch of people getting killed every year by crowd crushes.
I should’ve clarified. I mean overrun year round. I’m aware that trampling is more common since it’s concentrated in certain places.
I’d imagine there is less resentment to outsiders in Mecca since they have a “valid reason” to come to Mecca whereas Venice is just tourism and locals always complain
Came here to say this. Not only Oshkosh, but the surrounding cities in the Fox River area see a huge influx of airplane enthusiasts once a year. Oshkosh can't hold them all!
Put-in-Bay, Ohio. It's technically a village on the island of South Bass in Lake Erie. Summer time brings boaters and partiers, I mean the place becomes like Gen X spring break during the boating season. I've seen, and done, some grimy shit on that island when the sun is out.
PIB and Lake Erie shores are all like this. Though I’ve never committed grimy acts in daytime, I have definitely seen some wild shit go down. Few years back, bachelorette party gets off the jet express waiting to get golf cart rental, largest girl in the group asks her friends: do you think five days has been long enough for my anal fissures to heal? Later we drove by whatever bar has the pool bar and she was right up at the bar having the time of her life.
Medora, North Dakota is desolate in winters with population between 100 and 150, but in summers it receives a quarter million people! Making it 2000x
https://www.kxnet.com/one-day-destinations/one-day-nd-destinations-medora-more-than-just-a-musical/#:~:text=A%20place%20to%20stay%2C%20a,people%20a%20year%20come%20through.
If you’re counting like that then west glacier, Montana has a permanent population of two hundred but sees over a million tourists pass through it a year
Most of those quarter million people are day trippers, so the number is much less. I only can find 6 hotels in Medora, so I estimate thats maybe 700-800 rooms implying 2000 individuals.
Still pretty impressive at around 20x, but not 2000x. That would be unsustainable in just upkeep costs for any town.
Venice is unusual even in this list of cities in that the non-resident population outnumbers the resident population by a huge multiple every day, all year.
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A quick Google search says the city has 50k overnight visitors plus another 50k-100k day trippers from the mainland and cruise ships. There are only 55k residents.
An interesting contrast is from a century ago, when Venice saw 20k tourists per day (still seems like a lot to me!), and there were 175k residents.
I was looking for Alaska! Seward is the same way, the population is 2,800(and less in the winter), but it hosts around 20-30 thousand tourists during the summer.
Yes I didn’t account for all the tourists who drive through Chicken on Taylor Highway/Top of the World Highway. When I worked there as a kid we saw probably 1,000 people a day on busy days. Rainy summers were rough for a business that relies on tourism.
Ketchikan, Alaska, was my first thought. Population is about 8,000. Hundreds of giant cruise ships visit every year. Like 500+ big ships bringing over a million visitors every year, mostly in the summer.
Even one of the big cruise ships can bring 5,000+ tourists to add to the ~8000 residents. Sometimes several stop there in a single day, plus all the smaller cruise ships, yatchs, seaplanes, etc.
When cruises stopped during the pandemic Ketchikan had a very hard time economically, if I'm not mistaken.
Similar to OC,MD is a lot of the Jersey Shore. One area in particular is Cape May County. The off-season population is about 100,000, but in-season it rises to about 500,000. Another place also within 3 hours of the Northeast megapolis is the Adirondacks. It’s desolate in winter besides skiers. In the summer, the population is at least 20x the winter population.
The entire country of Iceland
Population of under 400,000 and received over 2 million tourists in 2017.
I was in Reykjavik during the off season, and half of the people I saw in the town were tourists. Once again, this was the off season.
I've been to Iceland twice, and have witnessed a local go to a cashier in a store and speak Icelandic to them a couple of times...
"Sorry, I don't speak Icelandic"
Not even the workers are Icelandic in many cases.
It's an immensely beautiful country, and once you get way out of the "big cities" of Reykjavik and Akureyri, there are little villages that are completely overwhelmed when 200 people show up on a couple of tour buses at the same time.
I haven't lived in the area in some time now, but I did see where some of their typical winter activities have been curtailed by uncooperative weather trends.
In a similar vein, Point Pleasant Beach, Bay Head, and Mantoloking all see explosive population growth, with pretty much the entire population of Mantoloking residing only in summer
How are Point Beach and Bay Head doing? I used to visit cousins in Bay Head every summer. Their family home was decimated - the whole block, really - by Hurricane Sandy.
They’ve all come back pretty well. Many homes have since been elevated. The one big change is the Shore in general has become much more expensive. There used to be a fair number of small bungalows that middle-class people could afford. Many have been torn down and much bigger homes that get rented out as investments have been put in their place.
Point Pleasant Beach fared the best after Sandy by far with minimal destruction compared to other towns. By this I mean that the city flooded up to the train tracks but not beyond it, with few houses being wrecked by the winds and most being back in operation by summer 2013. Bay Head had a few houses swept to sea but for the most part, the damage was restricted to the flooding brought on by the storm surge. Mantoloking and points south were hit particularly hard, with some lots still not having been rebuilt. However, whereas Point Pleasant Beach and Bay Head sit upon the former mainland (turned into an island in the 1920s with the construction of Point Pleasant Canal), all of those towns to the south are on the unstable sandspit.
Not exactly what you’re asking for, but home field football games for the University of Nebraska Cornhuskers turn the stadium into one of the most populous places in the state…if only for a few hours.
Kumbh Mela, when in Haridwar, India. During the peak days of the festival in 2010, the town's population also increased by 50x, from 200,000 to 10 million.
Panama City Beach has an estimated population of approximately 18,300, which increases to a peak daily population of more than 100,000 during the busy summer months. Each year approximately 4.5 million visitors come to PCB.
There are some resort towns like that in Balearics, I went to Menorca in March 2016 and some villages very really quiet and empty outside tourist season
Deal, New Jersey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal,_New_Jersey
> As of the 2020 United States census, the borough's population was 900
> Deal is home to a significant population of Orthodox Sephardic Jews, mainly of Syrian origin. As many as 80% of Deal's population are Sephardi Jews, and **the year-round population jumps ten-fold to over 6,000 during the summer**, many of them Syrian Jews.
Faster than a lot of other places on the coast. The delmarva peninsula is subsiding by several millimeters a year on top of the global sea level rise.
Plus, while officially 7 feet above sea level, it feels like less than that since there appears to be very little dropoff between the boardwalk and the beach like in this link. It might be an optical illusion but the effect to me is quite strong. It looks like one big storm could destroy it, even now.
[https://maps.app.goo.gl/NkJ2DYJrU8FW6aqd6](https://maps.app.goo.gl/NkJ2DYJrU8FW6aqd6)
Mykonos and many other Greek islands
I am Mykonos....
Feel like this one is familiar but I don't get it ;(
Hint: he's Greek and attends business seminars.
[speaking at the seminar] Creed Bratton: Two eyes. Two ears. A chin. A mouth. Ten fingers. Two nipples. A butt, two kneecaps, a penis. I've just described to you the Loch Ness monster. And the reward for his capture? All the riches in Scotland.
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I don’t know why but I thought of Mlepclaynos
Believe it or not, Manhattan: “[approximately 3.1 million people in Manhattan during the work day, compared to a residential population of 1.6 million people at night.](https://wagner.nyu.edu/files/rudincenter/dynamic_pop_manhattan.pdf)”
1.5 million people in and out daily. Amazing.
Yet not a single one thinks to move away from the door when I’m trying to get in the train
This right here is the content I come for.
I feel like it's gotten so much worse in recent years too. To the point where I am routinely forced to either push my way through while repeating "'scuse me" or wait for the next train.
Luxembourg would be similar I guess..
*Much* smaller, with [660k inhabitants, 516k workers](https://eures.europa.eu/living-and-working/labour-market-information/labour-market-information-luxembourg_en), with [200k daily crossers](https://luxembourg.public.lu/en/living/mobility/pilot-project-france.html). Pre pandemic my humble metro (core city about the population of Luxembourg) grew by a similar ratio.
Sounds like my ex girlfriend
And you contributed🤗
Even more. Some live in Manhattan and work elsewhere. I used to do the reverse commute daily.
Conversely, San Jose, which up until recently was the 10th largest city in the US actually loses 50k people during the day. This is because of the large tech campuses in the surrounding small towns. E.g. Apple in Cupertino or Google in Mountain View. There are more people that live in the city and work in the suburbs than vice versa.
Wow, that sounds like it'd be pretty unusual
San Jose is also 96% zoned for single family housing so it’s also a suburb essentially.
This is my problem when I hear about the growth of, "cities", out west. Phoenix, for instance, has added more land in the last 35 years than Philadelphia has total, has a population density barely a quarter of Philly's, and the tallest building doesn't even reach 500', they're cities in name only.
People have beef with the MTA and NJT, and for good reason, but getting 1.5 million people onto a tiny island is a feat of logistics. (Unfortunately everything is at capacity and all sorts of tunnels are either a century old, got fucked up by a hurricane, or both, and politicians have been dragging their feet for decades now.)
I just think it’s crazy that they haven’t found out a way to make a direct line from Bergen county into the city yet. Bergen country probably produces the most nyc commuters, yet it’s basically the only suburb of the city that requires a transfer to get in. But yeah other than that the NYC public transportation system is one of the best in the country.
>Bergen country probably produces the most nyc commuters Long Island's 3 million residents would like a word
You’re a bit short…LI has a population of just under 8 million
When people say long island they mean Nassau and Suffolk counties
That’s crazy!
You’d think they’d be able to cobble together a decent pizza place with all those people
please, they messed up clam chowdah.
You really feel this if you’re ever walking around the Financial District at night or on a weekend, it’s like a ghost town.
It says: 4 million on a work day, 2.9 on a weekend, and 2.05 on weekday night.
State College PA becomes the 3rd most populous place in PA during home games at Penn State
Bristol, Tennessee used to be like this during the NASCAR races back in its peak, I don’t know what it is now but it’s definitely not 160,000 people like it was.
The last great coliseum!
Except the spectators are in the middle instead of the gladiators and animals. Actually wait a minute..
I went to my first Nascar race there last year when it was still dirt track. I think that has since changed? Atleast thats what I heard
Dirt Bristol used to be the spring race, the fall race was still on concrete. Now it’s back to two concrete races again.
Nascar attendance? It's still insanely high. Think some races are still well over 100k
Very few. Maybe if you factor in camping, suites etc it’s closer, but grandstands alone very, very few.
Speedway, Indiana 😉
I was driving across country once with a band. We had a long drive the next day so we decided after the show to just drive as far as we could until maybe 1 or 2 in the morning, then get a motel. We do a pretty good clip & decide around 1AM to start looking for the next exit with a motel sign. The first exit with such a sign seems kinda empty & sketchy. There eventually was a motel, but it was dark & we decided to skip it & hop back on the freeway. Next exit was a long way. But we eventually come upon another exit with a motel sign. There's a light on in the window! Unfortunately, the hotel is all booked up even though it appears to be in the middle of nowhere. We ask the proprietor if he knows what the best direction to look for a place to crash is. He just looks at us like we're idiots (we're a band from California dude) & he says: "Well, NASCAR's in town." We stare blankly. "There are no rooms for miles. The next exit is about 20 miles down. They probably don't have any rooms. But after that... Then you're in Iowa." I'm not sure what "Then you're in Iowa" was supposed to mean. But yeah, we didn't find a motel or hotel & eventually just pulled over to a rest stop & tried to fall asleep in the van for an hour or two. Frickin' NASCAR.
I'm from right outside of Bristol, and you are correct. I used to get out of school the Friday before races because traffic would be so bad from people trying to get to the races
As a Penn state grad, 100% true. Place turns into a god damn urban war zone
Fuck I miss it there
Used to love walking down Curtin on Sunday morning and seeing the 100 person line of visiting fans waiting at the creamery.
This can also be said about many college football teams who are in states that don’t have many metro areas
Tbf most of the other states that can make that claim are a lot less populated than PA. Even outside of Philly/Pittsburgh, PA has a good number of 70k+ cities whereas states like WV and Nebraska do not. The largest city in WV would be the 19th largest in PA.
I grew up in Lancaster PA and when I told my ex from NM I was from a small farming town he looked it up .... His town (Mountainair, NM ) had a population of 900. I forget how much he said my town had, but it was at least a million or more.
The population of Lancaster is 60,000… hopefully a million was a joke…
I mean the metro population around there is 1/2 a million
I bet you can post your own cool post about it. I just happen to be from PA and know about this one!
I remember on one of the ncaa football games they would have some fun facts about all the schools and I remember this one was on a few schools. It also applies to Clemson, which is my favorite team.
Lincoln is the same in Nebraska
Lincoln is always the second biggest. The joke was Memorial Stadium is the third biggest on game day.
A very fine, accurate point.
That's if you don't talk metros.
Obviously
“What’s a petter ass Walter?”
You said it, man.
It took me 20+ years to realize that Walter calls Jesus a pederast.
8 year olds dude
Beaver Stadium ITSELF becomes the 4th largest city in the state on game days.
Mountaineer Field becomes the number 1 most populace place in West Virginia during home games.
Augusta, GA must be like this when The Masters are going on.
Hallstatt, Austria, has a permanent population of 780 and receives 3 million tourists each year (between 10000 and 30000 each day).
I went to this town in 1994. It was me, a dude from Montana, and a chick from Alaska. We were the only tourists there. This was October, but the weather was nice (rainy, but nice), and we were the only tourists in town for four days straight. It's amazing that it's such a tourist trap now. Thanks for the early heads up, Rick Steves!
Oh hell yea, Rick Steves is my boi!
I remember that we went to the salt mines... only ones there. We ate at a local restaurant, and each of us ate an entire pizza. No one there. We walked around the town and visited the church with the bones, and we saw that they had excavated some ancient ruins below a store. The best thing about that place is that, on the 3rd day, the clouds finally went away... and the mountains were so. much. taller! I'm from Virginia, and we have "mountains"... but those were Freaking Mountains. And I fucking love Rick Steves. I "discovered" Hallstatt and Gimmelwald because of him.
His office/storefront is about 10 min away from me and I always hope to run into him some day!
Me too! And I have run into him, though in Seattle. Unsurprisingly, he's really friendly and nice.
Haha got the early Rick Steves nod as well. My mom was obsessed with anything he recommended, and this was a one of the places we visited when I traveled with my family. It was June, I think. Wasn’t crowded at all back then. Tourists for sure, but not packed or anything.
Did you guys hang out? Any interesting stories?
Lots of places in Austria can be very touristy. My home town has a population of ca. 1100 and it has almost 4000 guest beds that are almost all sold out in peak weeks. It's far from the most popular tourist destination.
I was in Vienna this last weekend and holy moly was it crowded! Hot and humid too. Probably would be much better in maybe March or October. Alas I did not have a choice. Still liked it despite being a bit overwhelmed by the crowds and sticky heat. Now I'm in Ljubljana for a few days. I like it! Feels like it could become more tourist-crowded in the future. Maybe I shouldn't tell anyone lol.
What's great about Vienna is that tourism is very localised. Once you get away from the hotspots you don't notice it that much. Glad you liked it despite the crowds. But yeah, Ljublijana is great.
Mackinac Island MI. Permanent population of under 600, roughly 1.2M annual visitors, almost all within a 3-4 month stretch in summer.
Was gonna say this and Traverse City during summer
I live in Traverse City. The hordes have arrived for the Cherry Festival.
Saw 6 separate bachelorette parties on Front St last night. My eardrums hurt just seeing them 🤣
I saw approximately 30 in one night at Put-In-Bay, OH last month.
I'll be there at the end of next month to see the Sleeping Bear Dunes, can't wait.
Supposedly Traverse City becomes the second largest city in the state during Cherry Fest
Similar to Traverse City is Door County, Wisconsin across the lake. 30k people live there and it gets around 2.5 million tourists during the summer. It goes from a nice quiet northern Wisconsin area in the winter to a madhouse in the summer.
Elk Rapids!
No cars. All bikes and horses. Kids with their bikes blissfully unaware of traffic right aways!!
Right of ways Mackinac is one of my favorite places. Beaches full of kites. Fudge and ice cream. So many great childhood memories with my gramps there
Sturgis, South Dakota.
Wall and Deadwood too
I used to have a bumper sticker that said “Where the heck is Wall Drug?”
Anyone who has driven I-90 for more than a couple miles between Albert Lea, MN and Billings wouldn't have a problem saying where Wall Drug is.
Craziest amateur marketing ever. Places as far as Ireland have X miles to Wall Drug signs.
I had to stop at the Wall Drug Store after seeing billboard after billboard for hundreds of miles. It’s like the South of the Border place on 95 at the SC/NC border.
Nantucket goes from 10,000 to about 80,000 for 4th of July. Provincetown, MA is similar. Not 50x but a lot.
All of Cape Cod really. About 250K permanent population and around 5.5 million visitors every year.
Yup. My folks lived in Brewster for years, and most places all over the Cape were closed in the off season. It was a ghost town.
I’m from the Cape, grew up there and all that. When I tell people they’re like “oh your family must be rich”. Uhhhh no, my family wintered on the Cape. I worked the jobs that catered to the rich folk in the summer. The rich folk priced me out and I had to leave. Damn tourists!
Yup. My old man and his girlfriend live on the cape, but only because she bought her house back in 60's, right before the Boston elites started pushing everyone else out. They keep on top of the local politics and the main issue I always hear about is affordable housing for people working those retail jobs. Unfortunately they're going to pull up stakes in the next year or two. From what I've heard their house requires a *lot* of upkeep and, while they're both still active, 80 years old is a bad time to be climbing a 2 story ladder to hand-clean the gutters.
Yeah my family sold the home and moved out of state in 2020. If they had waited a few more years they could have got an extra 300K for the house…
ghost town cape cod is the real cape cod.
Add Wellfleet during the Oysterfest. 3k jumps 10 fold for one weekend.
Came here to say this. I’ve only been off-season and I always heat the figure was 50k but I believe 80k nowadays
Mv too
Mecca, Saudi Arabia. During the haj, millions come into Mecca for religious purposes (don’t recall the activities). I predict it’ll only increase as airfares go down especially for Muslim majority countries. Indonesia comes to mind
On the other hand Mecca is actually a big city - population 2.4 million. So the Hajj might only double or triple its population.
It about quadruple’s it
Yeah it’s nowhere as overrun compared to places like Venice where I’d imagine there is a 1 to 3 locals and tourists ratio. There are even lines for boats for locals since it is so overcrowded. I think the haj is more unknown since it’s 3x at a very specific time period (I think 2 weeks)
Venice tourists seem to double or triple the number of people in the archipelago, but in contrast to Mecca that occurs every day of the year.
This is absolutely untrue. Mecca is so crowded that during Hajj and other major religious holidays you can *only* enter the city with a pass certifying you as a pilgrim or a worker. Plus, Venice isn’t known for a bunch of people getting killed every year by crowd crushes.
I should’ve clarified. I mean overrun year round. I’m aware that trampling is more common since it’s concentrated in certain places. I’d imagine there is less resentment to outsiders in Mecca since they have a “valid reason” to come to Mecca whereas Venice is just tourism and locals always complain
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Similarly for one week in the year oshkosk airport in Wisconsin is the busiest control tower in the world.
Came here to say this. Not only Oshkosh, but the surrounding cities in the Fox River area see a huge influx of airplane enthusiasts once a year. Oshkosh can't hold them all!
I remember they flew in a concord one year (maybe other years too) and I went to see it. I thought that was such a cool thing when I was a kid.
Jackson, WY
Jackson does it twice, once during ski season and then after Yellowstone opens.
Outside of Christmas break, winter is not nearly as crowded as summer
Was just up there this weekend for work. It was stupid busy. Line of cars to get into town all the way out by the fish hatchery.
Put-in-Bay, Ohio. It's technically a village on the island of South Bass in Lake Erie. Summer time brings boaters and partiers, I mean the place becomes like Gen X spring break during the boating season. I've seen, and done, some grimy shit on that island when the sun is out.
PIB and Lake Erie shores are all like this. Though I’ve never committed grimy acts in daytime, I have definitely seen some wild shit go down. Few years back, bachelorette party gets off the jet express waiting to get golf cart rental, largest girl in the group asks her friends: do you think five days has been long enough for my anal fissures to heal? Later we drove by whatever bar has the pool bar and she was right up at the bar having the time of her life.
Medora, North Dakota is desolate in winters with population between 100 and 150, but in summers it receives a quarter million people! Making it 2000x https://www.kxnet.com/one-day-destinations/one-day-nd-destinations-medora-more-than-just-a-musical/#:~:text=A%20place%20to%20stay%2C%20a,people%20a%20year%20come%20through.
It receives a quarter million… How many are there at any given time during the summer, though?
With Medora's total area clocking in at barely over 1km2 they'd be smashing some records if they all arrived on the same day. Manila in shambles.
If you’re counting like that then west glacier, Montana has a permanent population of two hundred but sees over a million tourists pass through it a year
wtf that’s crazy
Most of those quarter million people are day trippers, so the number is much less. I only can find 6 hotels in Medora, so I estimate thats maybe 700-800 rooms implying 2000 individuals. Still pretty impressive at around 20x, but not 2000x. That would be unsustainable in just upkeep costs for any town.
Venezia, Italy
Venice is unusual even in this list of cities in that the non-resident population outnumbers the resident population by a huge multiple every day, all year.
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A quick Google search says the city has 50k overnight visitors plus another 50k-100k day trippers from the mainland and cruise ships. There are only 55k residents. An interesting contrast is from a century ago, when Venice saw 20k tourists per day (still seems like a lot to me!), and there were 175k residents.
That means that every night 50% of the sleepers are tourists.
Chicken, Alaska typically has a population of 5-12 and it soars over 100+ in the summer for gold mining
I was looking for Alaska! Seward is the same way, the population is 2,800(and less in the winter), but it hosts around 20-30 thousand tourists during the summer.
Yes I didn’t account for all the tourists who drive through Chicken on Taylor Highway/Top of the World Highway. When I worked there as a kid we saw probably 1,000 people a day on busy days. Rainy summers were rough for a business that relies on tourism.
Ketchikan, Alaska, was my first thought. Population is about 8,000. Hundreds of giant cruise ships visit every year. Like 500+ big ships bringing over a million visitors every year, mostly in the summer. Even one of the big cruise ships can bring 5,000+ tourists to add to the ~8000 residents. Sometimes several stop there in a single day, plus all the smaller cruise ships, yatchs, seaplanes, etc. When cruises stopped during the pandemic Ketchikan had a very hard time economically, if I'm not mistaken.
Google „Benidorm“ in the Communitat Valenciana in Spain…
Benidorm is so popular with Brits that we have a TV show called Benidorm about Brits who moved there. It's a byword for cheap package holiday.
Isn't every town with heavy tourism or towns hosting festivals or similar like that?
Correct, for example Wacken, Germany has a population of roughly 2000 people but during the Wacken Open Air festival there's over 75000 people there.
Similar to OC,MD is a lot of the Jersey Shore. One area in particular is Cape May County. The off-season population is about 100,000, but in-season it rises to about 500,000. Another place also within 3 hours of the Northeast megapolis is the Adirondacks. It’s desolate in winter besides skiers. In the summer, the population is at least 20x the winter population.
Cape May’s population goes from 3500 to 50,000 in the Summer. Cape May County’s population goes from about 90,000 to about 750,000.
Martha’s Vineyard
All of Dukes County, really
The entire country of Iceland Population of under 400,000 and received over 2 million tourists in 2017. I was in Reykjavik during the off season, and half of the people I saw in the town were tourists. Once again, this was the off season.
I've been to Iceland twice, and have witnessed a local go to a cashier in a store and speak Icelandic to them a couple of times... "Sorry, I don't speak Icelandic" Not even the workers are Icelandic in many cases. It's an immensely beautiful country, and once you get way out of the "big cities" of Reykjavik and Akureyri, there are little villages that are completely overwhelmed when 200 people show up on a couple of tour buses at the same time.
Ocean City, NJ
Yup, apparently grows from ~11k in the off season to 130k at the height of the summer season.
Lake George, NY
Lake George in the winter is a gem. Places stay open year round now and every weekend there are activities.
I haven't lived in the area in some time now, but I did see where some of their typical winter activities have been curtailed by uncooperative weather trends.
As a snowboarding New Yorker, damn you for making me sad in the offseason.
Pretty much the entire state of Florida from November until May.
Go Knights but we both know there's too many damn people in Orlando already LOL.
Seaside Heights, NJ
In a similar vein, Point Pleasant Beach, Bay Head, and Mantoloking all see explosive population growth, with pretty much the entire population of Mantoloking residing only in summer
How are Point Beach and Bay Head doing? I used to visit cousins in Bay Head every summer. Their family home was decimated - the whole block, really - by Hurricane Sandy.
They’ve all come back pretty well. Many homes have since been elevated. The one big change is the Shore in general has become much more expensive. There used to be a fair number of small bungalows that middle-class people could afford. Many have been torn down and much bigger homes that get rented out as investments have been put in their place.
Point Pleasant Beach fared the best after Sandy by far with minimal destruction compared to other towns. By this I mean that the city flooded up to the train tracks but not beyond it, with few houses being wrecked by the winds and most being back in operation by summer 2013. Bay Head had a few houses swept to sea but for the most part, the damage was restricted to the flooding brought on by the storm surge. Mantoloking and points south were hit particularly hard, with some lots still not having been rebuilt. However, whereas Point Pleasant Beach and Bay Head sit upon the former mainland (turned into an island in the 1920s with the construction of Point Pleasant Canal), all of those towns to the south are on the unstable sandspit.
Most towns on the shore would apply
Vatican City has a population of around 800 people and they average at least 5 million tourists per year
This here is your winner 🏆 Increases by 6,250 times.
There's no accommodation in the Vatican though, it's just day visitors. I don't think you can compare
Acapulco, before the hurricane, would gain half a million visitors during Christmas annually. Metro Area is roughly 1 million
Not exactly what you’re asking for, but home field football games for the University of Nebraska Cornhuskers turn the stadium into one of the most populous places in the state…if only for a few hours.
Myrtle Beach, SC. Off-season population is 38k, peak season is 350-400k.
Happy Valley (Penn State) during home football games becomes the third most populated city in Pennsylvania
Okoboji, Iowa. Tens of thousands show up for the lakes during summer. Permanent resident pop is under 1,000
I still have an university of Okoboji football tshirt from my teenage years.
Anecdotal, and not a city/town but I’d imagine cape cod, Massachusetts experiences some crazy fluctuations between the summer and winter months
The entire state of Alaska.
Palm Springs, CA. Population of approx. 50000 people all year around, frequently hosted about 2.5 mil visitors between winter months
Palm Springs is absolutely amazing
Speedway, Indiana, has a population of 11,182, but that grows to a third-of-a-million on the Sunday before Memorial Day.
Kumbh Mela, when in Haridwar, India. During the peak days of the festival in 2010, the town's population also increased by 50x, from 200,000 to 10 million.
Panama City beach
Redneck Riviera!
Snow cones, copper tones, reefer, and beer...
Panama City Beach has an estimated population of approximately 18,300, which increases to a peak daily population of more than 100,000 during the busy summer months. Each year approximately 4.5 million visitors come to PCB.
There are some resort towns like that in Balearics, I went to Menorca in March 2016 and some villages very really quiet and empty outside tourist season
For one that's not a tourist town, Ann Arbor, MI when the University of Michigan has a home football game
Ski towns in Colorado during the winter.
Luxembourg and Monaco have a lot of visitors or workers each day.
This looks like a screenshot from city skylines
Myrtle Beach, SC was like that when I was a kid. Now the year round population seems to be higher.
Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri
Lake of the Ozarks in missouri between memorial and labor days.
A lot of college towns in the SEC
Looks like one big wave and they're cooked
Ocean Shores WA.
Ocean City, NJ
This picture gives me anxiety
Deal, New Jersey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal,_New_Jersey > As of the 2020 United States census, the borough's population was 900 > Deal is home to a significant population of Orthodox Sephardic Jews, mainly of Syrian origin. As many as 80% of Deal's population are Sephardi Jews, and **the year-round population jumps ten-fold to over 6,000 during the summer**, many of them Syrian Jews.
Long beach island nj
Tucson when university students are in + snowbirds coming down to escape winter
Wisconsin Dells, Wi
Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. I do personal tours out here
Black rock city during burning man. Goes from zero to 87,000
Byron Bay, NSW, Australia
How long until all that's underwater? Yikes
Faster than a lot of other places on the coast. The delmarva peninsula is subsiding by several millimeters a year on top of the global sea level rise. Plus, while officially 7 feet above sea level, it feels like less than that since there appears to be very little dropoff between the boardwalk and the beach like in this link. It might be an optical illusion but the effect to me is quite strong. It looks like one big storm could destroy it, even now. [https://maps.app.goo.gl/NkJ2DYJrU8FW6aqd6](https://maps.app.goo.gl/NkJ2DYJrU8FW6aqd6)
It becomes the second largest city in Maryland during the summer. And in the winter it’s a literal ghost town.