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drgaspar96

Genuinely think Jay Kay Rolling would have a laugh at this


Gingerbread1990

Hard disagree, she's biologically incapable of feeling joy


drgaspar96

Didn’t she say her dopamine levels reacted heavily to her bank account


Gingerbread1990

If that were the case, she wouldn't be wasting so much time on Twitter 


Mrozek33

Imagine being stupid stinking rich and still engaging in petty arguments with strangers online when you could literally build a Truman Show-esque dome where every occupant is *contractually obligated* to eat your ass and genitals to completion every time you walk by


Squirrel_Bacon_69

Rich people have no vision, I swear


AugustusClaximus

Literally, why are they still buying yachts when luxury airships are a thing?


XXVAngel

They really are the least creative people ever. The only difference between 50 years ago and today is that we hear more about them complaining and being stupid.


NinjaQuatro

Why is it that when Rich people find out money doesn’t make them happy they almost always say it is X group of vulnerable people’s fault.


Suspicious-Dog-2489

Because they can't allow themselves to consider that this thing they've been chasing all their lives isn't a panacea for all their myriad mental ills


DepressedFirefighter

All the money in the world simply cannot buy taste.


CyberneticSaturn

The richest person I know (think tech founder exit rich), wakes up at like 1pm and spends all his time playing space sims and arguing with people on the internet. Like not even from a beach or anything. Bed -> computer -> bed


Superkritisk

Why do you guys assume that rich people don't play videogames and watch entertainment like the rest of us? What even is the point of being rich if you have to do stuff all the time?


GodOfMegaDeath

It's ironic since they will assume rich people will do things that make them poor real quick.


Decent-Biscotti7460

Like, that's vision. Fuck, the only reason I don't play vidya and jerk off 24/7 is I have to work to stay alive. The only reason I'd want to be rich would be to be able to play vidya 24/7. Only difference is I'd opt for hookers and Michelin star shit instead of jacking off and tendies.


Arlcas

Well, the last time they made that into an island, the guy ended up hanging from the ceiling in prison.


AbortionBulld0zer

Imagine doing something you like. What a concept


ImprovisedLeaflet

How much would I get paid for one of these jobs?


Trooper1911

She actually did sue some people that attacked her on twitter forcing out public apologies


TurretLimitHenry

Arguing on Twitter is more convenient and cheaper


drgaspar96

Gotta alternate between being an alienated billionaire and gloating over being an alienated billionaire probably


CompactAvocado

i mean she is rich enough to do whatever she wants. causing thousands of shitlords to have mental break downs every day does sound like fun.


hotcoldman42

No, she didn’t say that. That’s funny.


yumstheman

As do mine (I’m depressed)


basherrrrr

Reparo


StandardN02b

Bongs in shambles rn.


LosingAllYourDimples

Jay Kay Trolling?


DatChernobylGuy_999

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JakeJaylen

Wouldn't she rather frown, because reparo repairs/restores things to their intended/complete state? Harry "Trans-Ally" Potter would not only provide said trans*students magical SRS, but also show due to the nature of the spell that's used, that those students are inherently valid, and therefore align their primary sexual organs with their chosen gender. I think JK Rowling would make a chain of tweets to retcon that spell out of existence in that case.


[deleted]

The joke is about detransitioning trans people.


JakeJaylen

Then I misunderstood, apologies and agree that this would indeed bring her joy


SpiritualSexOffender

"You're a wizard, niggary!"


Mrozek33

The Niggardly Wizard and the Ramblings of the Enchanted Wood


SpiritualSexOffender

Harry Pothead and the Philosopher's Stash


MattUzumaki

Clortho Inner City Wizarding School


Cataclysma324

"Nate? What are you doing, man?"


Sad_Notice4952

Society of magical naygroes


Suspicious_Leg4550

You don’t need an omnipotent being for there to be fate, you could see it as everything being a part of a big chemical equation.


[deleted]

Their idea of chemistry is boiling some newts in a big kettle of Snape's cum...


Suspicious_Leg4550

I mean in the real world we use some pretty strange processes to synthesize chemical too.


DasToyfel

We make machines weighing thousands of pounds fly with the help of alchemical reactions and some weird runic interfaces, do tell me thats not literal magic. Heck, we even harness the suns power on a small scale in some metal tube in france. Weird dark magic shit.


JoeisaBro

We take rocks, put other rock powder on that rock, cut the rock into small squares, soak them in 20 different liquids, shoot different colorful lights onto it, and now we have a processor. Magic.


DasToyfel

Dont get me started on the human sacrifices i made to printers....


ImprovisedLeaflet

Hermione looked at the boiling potion and wrinkled her nose. She looked up at Snape, her face full of doubt. “P-p-professor, are you sure these are the correct ingredients?” Snape zipped up his pants and chuckled lowly. “Enough questions Granger. *Drink.*”


MashedPotatoGod

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OldManMoment

Based


beansahol

The luck potion doesn't imply God. This is a world with magic, it's obviously just a magic potion. The rest of the greentext is funny but that section kinda triggered my autism


StraightOuttaArroyo

The luck potion somehow bends fate into you going EXACTLY where you need to be, have EXACTLY the odds for you to win, have EXACTLY the appropriate situation and world to YOUR knees. But it just a luck potion, sure.


EverythingHurtsDan

Should we suppose that this potion takes away others' luck and add it to yours? I mean, Aragog was fucking dead, and its funeral brought Slughorn being drunk and confessing. Who knows if all that would not come to pass without drinking the potion?


StraightOuttaArroyo

Like I said earlier, its not a luck potion, but a potion that bends fate in your favor. Harry just has a gut feeling that if he wants to persuade Slughorn, he has to be at a place, at a time and doing exactly what he needs to do. How does he know? He doesnt, it just fate being bend to Harry to succeed. Imagine if you were to look up a guide online to find a hidden object in a video game, you would know what to do but the player character would just be looking like a lunatic and somehow getting cool gear, and he doesnt even have a single clue on why he dug up this spot and talk exactly at a random dude to get the key, after giving him a chicken which the dude never ask before. Get what I mean? Its litterally an omnipotent being or fate guiding Harry to success.


notouchmygnocchi

Magic doesn't have to be sentient/god, it can just be magic. "But how can magic do _!?" ... Because ~~magic~~ God. Checkmate athiests


Emperorerror

The fact that you're downvoted is retarded


beansahol

Bizarre that you can't reconcile a luck potion with the concept of magic. You need to try and put 2 and 2 together here. This is a world that contains magic potions that have magical effects.


StraightOuttaArroyo

No, Im very well aware its magic. What you dont understand with my point is that this potion isnt really a luck potion but a fate one. You bend odds, events, locations to you. Its like if you play a video game, you look up a guide online to have the best weapons and armor but your character doesnt have a single clue. He will be acting like lunactic running around town, going to the exact safe, unlocking with the exact code he never knew, and have a flaming sword that turns people into dust. How does this character knew? He doesnt even know, he just had a gut feeling. Fate guided his hand.


beansahol

You're trying to rationalise a magic potion. When Ronald Weasley lifts Hermione's skirt with Wingardium Leviosa, you can't and shouldn't ask how his wand did that. It's magic. Similarly, you can't and shouldn't ask why the luck potion gives you perfect luck. Moreover, having perfect luck is interchangable with the idea of having a 'good fate'.


McMuffinSun

> When Ronald Weasley lifts Hermione's skirt with Wingardium Leviosa But that's what OP is trying to say. In your scenario, Ron had to make an affirmative action on a third-party object that resulted in a direct outcome. That's how all magic works in Harry Potter except this potion which is taken by the user but then it passively impacts all third party object with no specific action being taken on them. Ron doesn't cast a spell on himself that restructures the Earth's atmospheric conditions to make a particularly strong breeze at 4:30pm that lifts her skirt right when he's walking by.


beansahol

Ok, so you think the potion is too indirect and powerful. That's fair enough, but it has nothing to do with God. That skirt lifting pot sounds cool as hell tho


McMuffinSun

I mean, we can argue if it has to be *God* specifically, but the indirect and powerful potion has to be working on some tangible force that controls fate/future actions like how every other spell and potion affects tangible objects to work. At the very least, fate/the time stream has to at least be like the Force in Star Wars. It has to be objectively true, measurable, have a will, and be malleable. Otherwise, there's nothing for the luck potion to change and it wouldn't wouldn't work.


beansahol

The tangible force is magic. It's a wizard book.


McMuffinSun

The tangible force of magic exclusively works as a physical force acting on physical objects, that's how it works for literally every other spell and potion in the series. For luck potion to work, it has to be a metaphysical force on a metaphysical object which implies the existence of a concrete timeline or fate or God or whatever you want to call it.


StraightOuttaArroyo

My explaination made perfect sense, now you're comparing a wand to a potion which is incomparable. Even in terms of magic. The Luck Potion had specific events that show that Harry managed to do unrelated things to get Slughorn's confession. In this case, its more fate than luck. Its an old subject wether its fated or was it luck, but given how Jay Kay wrote all that I cant agree that everything was down to "luck". The potion had more implications and to make people just more "lucky". He litterally had a gut feeling on where to be and what to do.


beansahol

He just got really lucky. Really really lucky. Because he drank a luck potion.


StraightOuttaArroyo

Luck made him say he wants to see Hagrid, the gut feeling was luck. Its all the mysterious aspect of that Jay Kay's writing that is fun, is it luck? Was it fated? Was he the Chosen One? Or the road he took prove that he was the hero. Summing it to just luck when magic has more implication is just too boring.


ImCaligulaI

I don't see why it being a "fate" potion instead of a "luck" potion changes anything. It's part of the magic of that universe that people can see the future. There's prophecies and mediums. The luck potion lets you see the "best" future for you and act accordingly. So what? It does in no way shape or form imply an all knowing god.


StraightOuttaArroyo

Because its one of the core themes of the books. Is Harry a hero because he was fated to be one, or he is a hero because he was lucky enough to survive? Is he more of a hero than others like Hermione, Ron , Neville, Sirius who werent in any prophecy but were instrumental in Harry's security and victory against the Dark Lord? Or was it fate, everything? Luck or fate? Which is it? We will never know, I personally lean more into the fate side because of all the lore Jay Kay's wink at the audience, but its open to debate.


ImCaligulaI

Ok. But how does either conclusion imply an all knowing God? Even if it's "fate", there's nothing implying fate has to be a self-aware intelligent mind, instead of how the chain reactions of the universe are set to be.


notouchmygnocchi

Dude realized he's wrong and decided to pretend to be having a juvenile conversation about the semantics of fate vs luck instead of God.


StraightOuttaArroyo

I didnt had time to perfectly form my thought wether it was on break or on the toilet, Im no longer a NEET unfortunatetly. To me fate is the guiding hands of God(s) and luck is the anti-thesis. To keep it simple.


StraightOuttaArroyo

From my point of view, I see fate has the guiding hands omnipotent being(s) binds the lifes of lesser ones. How like puppet masters control their toys. That while free will exists and our consciousness is proof of our own existence, we are still predetermined to be born and be died through the intricate plans of fate. I see this that no action is useless, that even inaction is part played in the grand schemes of fate. However, luck would to me be the ultimate reversal of that idea. That no beings is behind is controling the streams of fate, that as you perfectly said "a chain of reactions of the universe are set to be".


McMuffinSun

Because the potion alters SOMETHING in the time stream that otherwise wouldn't go that way. We can debate if it's *God* or not, but it's certainly like The Force in Star Wars. It has to be objectively true, measurable, have a will, and be malleable or else the potion wouldn't work.


McMuffinSun

Because it's the only *passive* magical item that has an *active* effect on others. No other magic compels behavior unless you affirmatively strike THEM with a spell or potion, not do it to yourself.


Weppih

I don't want to hear of this 4 bullshit you keep peddling to me


beansahol

4-what now? Sip liquid luck before you post to help make it legible. Anyway can you go back to the original point and explain why God is required to explain the luck pot in harry potter?


notouchmygnocchi

Praise Abbah! Don't expect rational thinking when the answer is blind faith. There is actually a god of death in HP I suppose...


Yosh1kage_K1ra

I think it's not that deep. All it did was essentially make Harry know what to do and say to eventually achieve the result. The circumstances would still be there if he didn't drink it, he just would've missed them. And if such circumstances didn't happen, something else would've and he would still have did something that would've helped him to get the result or still get closer to it. Still doesn't mean they couldn't just use potions to deal with Voldy and his backups


Advice2Anyone

The books imply a physical death exists anyways


Smallwater

"Yes, we have a magic potions that forces you to tell the truth" "No, we're not going to let you use it to prove you're not lying" "You're still lying, you killed that vampire kid and voldy is not alive. Stop causing a fuss."


TheShivMaster

They have a potion that forces people to tell the truth and a spell to extract people’s memories to look back at past events and yet somehow there’s still innocent people who are falsely imprisoned.


GodOfMegaDeath

I mean, wasn't the fact that the government is extremely corrupt a really big part of one of the books?


Darcosuchus

Which is extremely ironic because harry goes on to just become a cop and they never really change anything about the system.


TheShivMaster

I guess you could say the corrupt people like Fudge and Umbridge got rooted out by the war but yeah it is a bit unsatisfactory.


Darcosuchus

I guess the thing with HP is that the system is supposed to be good with just bad people currently in power. But idk how you can say that when there’s very clearly a literal racial caste system in place.


CzLittle

I mean look at JKR, that's exactly what a good system is to her


Darcosuchus

Yeah. I strongly believe that fiction doesn’t always have to portray the author’s views, as we can afford to just have things work differently in fiction. But Rowling makes it obvious that this is not that, she 100% believes the problem in HP is individual, not systemic, despite constantly writing it as systemic. I mean, Grindelwald was bad because he wanted to stop the holocaust, and the goblins were bad because they wanted equal rights.


ThisUsernameis21Char

> Grindelwald was bad because he wanted to stop the holocaust Grindelwald was bad because he wanted a new age where muggles are directly subjugated as servants instead of wizards keeping secrecy from them.


Darcosuchus

I should probably stop oversimplifying the plot. You’re correct. Grindelwald was bad because he wanted to subjugate muggles. The plot of the second Fantastic Beasts movie is that he foresaw the holocaust and used that to rally other wizards to his cause. While his greater cause was bad, we’re also meant to see that specific action as bad as well. The wizards of the HP universe actively don’t want to make the world a better place. They have the power to help the homeless, the hungry, and the oppressed, to fight human trafficking and animal poaching, and to cure illnesses. But they stay hidden because they don’t want muggles to involve them in “their” problems. Which isn’t bad writing necessarily, but we’re never meant to see wizards as a selfish community either. That part of their culture is never questioned at any point. Then again, they also partake in these things themselves within their own little world.


Everestkid

Eh, there's a couple of things you glossed over. * As others pointed out, lots of corrupt officials were removed after Voldemort's death. * If you say that Harry becomes a cop, that's only confirmed in Cursed Child, so you accept Cursed Child as canon. You know who's Minister for Magic in Cursed Child? Hermione. Pretty sure the magical government's in good hands. * Harry isn't even really a cop, he's an Auror. In book 5, McGonagall states that the Ministry (even though it was corrupt then) only accepts the best of the best to become Aurors, hasn't accepted any applicants in several years, and has further training once accepted. Aurors hunt down Death Eaters. They're not "cops" in the municipal policing sense; they're more like the FBI or MI5. Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of plot holes in the Harry Potter series, but this is a bad take.


Darcosuchus

Harry becoming an auror was never explicitly stated on the books, but it’s something he was working towards and here’s nothing in the main books that contradict that. Idk if that’s really much better though. I’m honestly mostly concerned with how other magical creatures are treated and the whole muggle-wizard separation thing. I also find it funny that Joanne has used “muggle” as an insult herself, it’s very ironic.


GodOfMegaDeath

I mean, if i saved the world i would like to do something i like from then on instead of starting a whole ass revolution just after a war. I don't blame him


lipehd1

Still, no one ever questions this? - why no one use these methods in trial, dumbledore? - corruption and whatnot harry - and why y'all don't question it, why didn't you bring this up when i was in court? - reasons


Smallwater

TBF, it's shown that the memory viewing thing can be tampered with. It's obvious, but not impossible. So I guess that would invalidate it as absolute proof in a trial.


TheShivMaster

True, although like you said tampered memories can be detected.


Fedora200

It's only the truth from what they believe is the truth. I guess it being called an honesty potion would be better, same with the memories


Wack_photgraphy

Fucking love all the dumbledore green texts


[deleted]

Potter posting is one off the best things coming out of 4chan


InformalAntelope4570

Isn't the luck potion implied to only give a person a confidence boost?


danwoop

No, I think at one point in the books someone mistankenly thinks they took it and succeeds due to the confidence boost, but the actual potion does objectively make you lucky


Emperorerror

Yeah Ron for Quidditch


Impressive-Hat-4045

There is a popular theory that it doesn't actually give a luck boost - SuperCarlinBrothers did a good overview on it.


baconborg

Love those nerdy fucks


BeenEatinBeans

That was just with Ron. Harry pretended to give him the luck potion, but then just used magic to help him win the Quidich game. You’d think Hogwarts would have some sort of system in place to prevent its students from rigging games like that, but oh well


Cowslayer369

That potion is extremely difficult to make with ingredients that cost a fortune to begin with, I'm pretty sure the reason they don't have any checks against it is because most people won't be able to afford it in their lifetime.


iwillnotcompromise

That would make it legal for rich kids to cheat, so just like in the real world.


Cowslayer369

It's also incredibly unhealthy and highly addictive


Cringeylilyyy

Kids get addicted to vaping for no benefit, imagine an addictive substance that would make you better at any sport or exam.


Cowslayer369

It makes you better a couple times and then fucks your life up worse then crack. It's never explicitly said, but a lot of the lore bits suggest that overdosing on the luck potion does something along the lines of giving you the opposite effect, permanently, while your organs also fail.


No_Mammoth_4945

Adderall


McMuffinSun

Or in Hogwarts where Malfoy buys his way onto the team by giving everyone new brooms that give a competitive edge over other teams using inferior brooms (except Harry who used his parent's fortune on an even better broom?)


McMuffinSun

> That potion is extremely difficult to make with ingredients that cost a fortune to begin with Sounds like you just need to make it once, take it, use the luck to scale production, and the gravy train would never stop rolling.


Dravarden

> but then just used magic to help him win the Quidich game no, that didn't happen


BeenEatinBeans

There's a scene where Hermione is chewing Harry out for giving the luck potion to Ron, to which Harry replies "You're right. Guess I could have just used a confundus charm" and then shows her the bottle still containing the potion. That's the same spell we see Hermione use earlier to sabotage the other guy trying out for the position of Keeper so Ron gets the position


Dravarden

yeah, she used it in the tryouts to sabotage Mclaggen, not the game where Ron was playing, therefore no one used magic to help no one win the game unless you mean she used magic months before to make sure Ron got the position which she knew would mean that he would win a game where Harry makes him think he drank liquid luck...?


BeenEatinBeans

No, I'm saying Harry used the same trick during the game. I meant that Harry was the one who said "I could've just used a confundus charm"


Dravarden

but he didn't, he was teasing her for actually cheating


BeenEatinBeans

I don't see why the line couldn't mean he used it, especially since it was already established how the spell worked


Dravarden

because there is no evidence he used it? Mclaggen was acting weird and some noticed, no one mentioned the opposite team acting weird or losing for no reason, they were just stopped by Ron "you cheated?!" "no, I didn't give him the potion" "that's still bad!" "you are right, I should have actually cheated like you did Mclaggen by using a confundus charm on the opposite team wink wink nudge nudge" it's Harry using her logic against her and showing her that he knew she charmed Mclaggen, so he knows she has the hots for Ron (and that she can't act holier than thou when he didn't cheat at all, while she did actually cheat, although not in an official match, just tryouts) Nowhere it's implied, let alone explicitly said, that Harry cheated


KenyattaLFrazier

Match fixing scandals affects the wizarding world too huh- I guess it doesn’t matter if your last name is potter or ohtani


News-Initial

Kinda like the love(daterape) potion doesn't actually mean the child born from the act is incapable of feeling affection. Just that the child will grow up with a terrible childhood and be a little psycho


Mrpettit

Should have snorted some coke or smoked a little crystal and would have accomplished the same thing.


ConfidentMongoose

Harry Potter shitposting used to bring normal derision from fantasy fans.. now it only brings out decepticons on their Twitter crusade agaisnt Rowling.


SuicidalTurnip

I know it's meant to be a kids series and all, but the more you look at HP the more you realise how dog shit Joanne is at writing a cogent fucking story. So many deus ex machina moments that then get ignored or removed in the stupidest fucking way. Oh, Neville knocked over a cabinet with ALL of the magic fucking time travel devices so we can't use them again.


Cringeylilyyy

But actually there was one left so Harry's kid can be in a really shit stageplay


lipehd1

Yeah but that one will only be used for this specific scenario and never again because it's too dangerous


Gurablashta

Is Dumby stupid?


MD-trading-NQ

Is Dumby dumby?


coolusernameHi-5

/r/yourjokebutworse


TranceDream

Bro the last line fucking lmao


Legitimate-Nature519

Based Harry Potter experience. Just like the author intended.


HourStick

His problem was that he was to based


LilXansStan

Also they have time turners. A time travel device that is so incredibly illegal but can be used for taking extra classes during a semester.


[deleted]

Who made these anyways


lipehd1

HP is such a plothole fest that it's harder to not point plot holes in it. I mean, JK rolling create SO MANY extremely convinient and powerful artifcats for convinience because she often write herself into corners and don't know how to get out, and then completely ignore the existence of said artifcact for the rest of the story, to the point that it get hilarious; clock that can literally change the course of time? Yeah we're not using that. Potion that can make anyone tell the truth? Nah, we're never gonna use that on a trial and no one will ever question it. And so on


MicMix5

Jk Rowling wrote these books over a span of years and you could argue that she wrote the first couple of books without knowing they will be a hit. Also technically the Harry Potter books aren't fantasy books. If you do a really deep dive in the structure of each story you will find they are technically in the Mystery/Teenage Detective genre. Every books has a mystery/murder case that the magic trio tries to solve. Therefore using mcguffins like magical artifacts isn't that lazy writing. I doubt the author set out to make THE most hardcore and detailed magic system in existence. If she had done that she wouldn't have been so successful and she would be just another poor fantasy author. Also I would argue every single author has mcguffins and plot conveniences. Frank Herbert (author of Dune) would literally dismiss any critic and question simply by saying "I wasn't interested in writing that". Brandon Sanderson would probably give you some obscure explanation hidden in a tiny chapter of one of his other anthologies and JRR Martin is infamous for writing himself in corners (Myreenese knot & Deanerys).


lipehd1

I don't think the problem is the magic trinkets by themselves, lots of other stories does that, i think the problem lies on the fact that most of the issues encountered as the story progress could be easily solved with items presented in the past, and JK never bothered to even make half-excuses to why those items can't be used to solve said problems, like Sanderson would, she just straight up ignore them. And yeah, you do have a point about most of harry potter stories being whodunnit's, but the last arcs aren't, and those arcs are where the problems are most clear, because you can look at dozens of ways that the issues could be solved, with magic trinkets that the very own protagonists have, and yet the characters are always "hmm it seems that we are out of options" despite having plenty


MicMix5

Wait wasn't the trio on the run in the last book though? Did they even have the ingredients to make the magical potions? What trinkets did they have with them? PS. The whole thing with the time turners was probably dumb but that happened in the 3rd book and I genuinely believe JK Rowling regretted their inclusion. But what can you do at that point... The book had been released so she came up with this "They were all destroyed". I am not a huge Harry Potter fan. I read the books when I was a kid but I was more of a fan of Eragon tbh. I just find it really weird that the past 5 years people act as if the Harry Potter books are THE WORST BOOKS ever written or that they don't deserve their fame. These books are the most successful book franchise of all time. Like... They really resonate with people.


lipehd1

Hermione had the Time Turner, Harry had the luck potion, and also a potion brewing kit they got from the apothecary, and that's just from the top of my head, they probably had even more items that could be used I don't think she was the WORST writter ever, but her writting is pretty bad tho, her world building is laughable (basically nothing outside of hogwarts exists, and when she showed a "map" of the magical schools around the world it was just further proof of that), her story is full of plot holes and she more often than not solve the characters problems with a magical item that appears out of thin air and call it a day


MicMix5

I know this might be a bit tedious and you may have other things to do other than writing on Reddit but I am genuinely curious about what's wrong about the other schools. My initial reaction to the unveiling of the other schools was genuine interest. Wow! More schools and more interesting stories to be told. But I have seen some criticism about them that just doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Some people didn't like some of the names (Castelobruxo and Mahukotoro) which honestly is kind of dumb. Regional names all over the world can be literally hillarious or super silly when translated (most Japanese places are named after a river or an adjective or something simple). Other people had issues with the small number of schools. "Duuuhhh why doesn't Turkey or Nigeria or Mongolia have a School" Which... Like... She can always add more hidden schools later or simply some regions are not populated by wizards or the wizards were killed. But the wildest issue people had was that "How come these schools were not mentioned in the original books?" Haven't the books already established that ALL wizards are VERY QUIRKY isolationist and naturally cautious about revealing themselves??? Why Mahukotoro was never mentioned before? Because the Japanese wizards hate leaving their island, despise foreign wizards and have self isolated there for hundreds of years. There. Solved. Why no mention of the African School? Because the wizards there only allow a few people to know of the existence of the school for fear of being hunted down by the local African warlords. There. Solved. I am curious what was your issue with the reveal of the new magic schools?


lipehd1

You know what the problem with the other schools is? There's a "world ending" event, and somehow the only school involved is Hogwarts; Voldemort wants to kill all the mugles in the world, but somehow never leaves british territory and his underlings never attack any school other than Hogwarts; there's "cross school" events, but they always happens at Hogwarts, and everyone is cool with it. You see where i'm going? These other schools are an aftertought, it was like "oh right, there are other places around the world", and then just dropped generic names that she didn't took a whole minute to think about, but from a story standpoint, the whole world revolves around Hogwarts, and Hogwarts only, these other "schools" doesn't matter, because they don't exist from a story perspective Imagine if GoT revolved solely around Winterfell, or LOTR happened all in the shire, with everyone going to the shire back and forth only; you got the picture, it's alright if you don't care about anything and just turn off your brain, but when you see it without rose tinted glasses, you realize it's pretty bad


MicMix5

I see what you mean... Yeah we know the other schools are an afterthought but it's not like they can't be worked into the story. Wasn't Voldemort a British Wizard though? Wouldn't it make more sense to attack the school he himself was educated in first, the school that contains some of his Horcruxes and then establish a foothold in the magic world? Would you have preferred him attacking the African School or one of the Asian schools first? What Cross School events are there other than the Tri-Wizard tournament? Is Hogwarts always the location of the tournament? And if so what's the problem with that? Maybe they established the tournament the same way that Greece established the Olympic Games and for 150 years now every Olympic Games Tournament technically starts in Greece with the lightning of the Olympic Flame in Ancient Olympia. Also technically most of the things you mention can be explained by what I said about wizards being quirky isolationists and the schools operating separately from one another. Anyway... I think we put a lot of thought into this stuff. It's a fantasy series. I bet there are ways to explain this stuff.


imbogey

Wasnt she writing HP books from a pub? Drunken yapping no wonder.


sunshineandcacti

The time turner was used by government control only bc too many people were more or less messing up timelines with them The ministry also uses the truth serum in extreme situations during trials/court. But there are some in the books, like Bellatrix who are just so proud of what they've done that the ministry didn't question her authenticity.


lipehd1

There's no "timelines" in Harry Potter, there's only one timeline, which is why you shouldn't encounter yourself while using the time turner, because that will affect the present you, which is also why harry experienced the event that he himself did with the time turner (which it's another plothole by itself, because that's a infinite time-loop with no origin, but that's another matter); which bring us to why someone like dumbledore didn't simply went back in time and stop voldemort of doing the things that he did. And the ministry never used that serum at any given time in story, that's just "what if's" that fans create, they simply act as if it doesn't exist, and that it's impossible to tell if someone is actually lying or not


sunshineandcacti

The whole point of cursed child is that multiple timelines do in fact get created after the use of a time tuner after reckless use. When speaking to Dumbledore in the later books Harry learns that the serum itself has flaws and some people can detect and fight the side effects of it. Rowling later clarified that the ministry tried using it, but it was considered a violation of rights and at times unreliable for those who are skilled at fighting off the potion.


lipehd1

What's even "reckless use"; seems like a completely arbitrary thing to say that sometimes it affect the timeline and sometimes it doesn't, or, in common language "This thing will only happen when i feel like it, there's no well defined rule for that" Also, what "flaws" is there in being forced to tell the literal truth? Are the characters gonna act like pinochio when asked where Shrek is? * -Do you know where Valdemort is? * -Uh. Hmm, well, uh, I don't know where he's not. * -So you're telling me you don't know where he is? * -It wouldn't be inaccurate to assume that I couldn't exactly not say that it is or isn't almost partially incorrect.


elephantgropingtits

it's a children's book


lipehd1

The Chronicles of Narnia are also children's books and have way less plot-holes and is way more consistent with it's own lore Being a children's books is not an excuse for bad writting, kids that are at reading age aren't that stupid, specially the ones that like to read


_TLDR_Swinton

It's increasingly obvious that Dumbledore is a master of the Dark Arts posing as a white wizard, who feeds off the misery and death of the Bumwarts student body. The Harold Potter books are a "history is written by the victors" account of a battle between two death wizards.


needstochill

A book series marketed with this premise would've gone hard during the GOT craze a few years back


SnapHackelPop

Look if you wanna start talking plotholes with the Harry Potter universe you better pack a lunch because we’re gonna be here a while


Vivid_Tradition_2689

Yo, is this dude Harry not out of school yet? He's been in hogwarts for like 25 years. What is he? Retarded?


gofferhat

I mean if you managed to kill Voldemort in a duel he’d survive, that’s the entire point of the horcruxes. Still would’ve helped a lot to use it finding and destroying them, but still. No you couldn’t just take them and win a duel. There’s better plot holes to tear apart


sunshineandcacti

In the book it says he would of returned to the weird ass fetus state and need to be resurectited like in GOF. So killing w/o the horcrux would of just been a temporary stop.


BartlettMagic

>I don't have dementia. i lol'ed


kingdomart

Luck doesn’t mean you’ll win, it just means you’d have the best event occur. For example, if I run against Ussain Bolt I’m not going to win because I’m lucky…


MarinLlwyd

It was luck, but lucky doesn't make things successful.


item_raja69

Or make a post about it 20 years later


SituationPrize9516

Dumbledore? More like Fumblemore


K4T4N4B0Y

First of all iirc in the sixth book Harry gives his friends a sip of it to help them survive the death eaters raid at Hogwarts. Second, le potion is banned by the ministry for all things that matters like competition or exams, there must be a kind of detector or test to give a positive, along the obvious behaviour one gets from drinking the potion (it turns you in a kind of douchebag, impulsive and confident). Also in big quantities can kill you so it's not abusable, it takes 6 months to prepare, it's extremely hard and the ingredients aren't very common, and can lead to disastrous events if done wrong. HP has a lot of plot holes anon, but felix felicis isn't one of them.


Bit_Obaileys

I thought liquid luck was more like liquid Ecstasy. And Harry was just buzzed and on it. He's bouncing around like he's on something. His sense of well-being and vibes just seemed to come back on him in a positive way. Only going off the movie, though. I've not read the book. He looked like he really wanted to dance. Would liquid luck be a wizard party drug? Do wizards rave?