I accidentally pushed too hard on the string during my sick 32nd note legato run and it sounded like b00mer bend and now none of my friends will look me in the eye
I tried to learn something else but watched this video with some white haired guy about borrowing 7ths from chromatic median modulations and something inside me died
Paco DeLucia smoked a joint before recording Mediterranean Sundance with Al DiMeola because he was nervous
[Mediterranean Sundance](https://youtu.be/A3m_SQFd3xg?si=a_dY7Phc2G_fj3tw)
Ah yes, the gleefully ignorant. You know it doesn't hurt to actually know what you're doing on your instrument? In fact, you might even benefit from it 🤔 the fact that you referred to some basic music theory as "what the kids use" shows that you really don't have a clue. Name any of the modes, and you'll find most people use them in some way or another, whether they know it or not. You say dorian like it's some exotic scale only pretentious snobs use...
You gotta know it all man it only adds to your vocabulary. I've mastered the C major, D dorian, E Phrygian, F Lydian, G Myxolydian, A minor and B Locrian. So much spice.
Hell yeah! Bobain said theory like doorian and arpegging is bad because it makes you less origimal, so i refuse to learn it either. Not worth ruining the feels for zoomer crap!!
"I mean I'd say I'm pretty intermediate, no I haven't had any lessons or any training, I just google tabs for songs I like, as long as its the same tuning my Epiphone came with"
Satriani and Vai and Yngwie toan
/uj I have no idea who the guy is in the photo, lol, so I have no idea. Personally not a huge fan of Yngwie/Vai/Satriani style playing for songwriting , though. It’s not that they’re technical, you can be skilled and still write good songs. Look at Buckethead or Misha Mansoor for that.
It's funny because he doesn't even really do shred anymore. He was on board with that whole neoclassical shred thing that everyone was doing in like the 80s when he led the band Racer X but in the last 20 years I think he hit a point where he realised he already achieved everything he wanted in that vein, so now he releases solo albums full of very self-indulgent blues rock. And I don't mean that in a bad way, the guy just wants to write weird blues songs for himself and they're fairly decent.
If you play guitar buy don't like shred, what the fuck made you even pick up the guitar in the first place. Yeah yeah, tasteful blues etc etc etc.... but come on, every musician likes to shred, and if they don't, it's because they can't and they wish they could
I’m not sure if you’re jerking but aren’t there people who picked up guitar to play heavy riffs, singer songwriter type chordal stuff, rhythmic funk guitar, or even like shoegaze stuff? I feel like “shredding” is definitely over hated for the reasons you mention but saying that it’s the universal basis for guitar players picking up guitar doesn’t really check out.
-obscure subgenre of metal
-80s metal
-Two of the largest and oldest popular music genres, combined in the same category for some reason
Which do you think will win???
Playing the guitar with barely any distortion using string and body taps that sounds like some asmr video to calm special children is my favorite genre of metal!
Obscure is definately /j I'm assuming
The obscure part was genuine BUT in my defense I've never found math rock stuff out in the wild, mostly just in this sub. I have no idea how popular it is in the real world.
that's true, but a lot of people can play blues and very few of them are interesting to listen to when they do so
cliched licks are cliched licks in any genre/style
/uj Malmsteen legit wrote good songs and legit changed how guitar players played. He's as influential as EVH for guitars IMHO. He's just an easy target to make fun of.
I know Gambale was also the sweep guy at that time as well, but it's just like how EVH didn't invent tapping but only popularized it.
Yeah, and a lot of people can't shred and still aren't interesting to listen to.
There is an annual blues rock festival in my city. I rarely miss it. I like the atmosphere and the music, but very often the only bands that are actually worth listening to are the headliners and the occasional metal band - and although my taste certainly plays a part here, the biggest problem is that most blues guitarists there just play exactly the same stuff over the same chord progressions, at the same tempo...
/uj there are some legit critics to some shredders like "it's more finger gymnastic than music", "it's knitting".
imo it's more like, not a lot of people want to hear some perflectly played neo classical licks with distortion, this is not relatable. Funky rythm or even campfire strumming sounds better to non guitarists.
UJ I can’t shred at all. I think it’s cool but, it’s like a woman telling you about her day. after 30 seconds I go deaf. Like someone taking ten minutes to tell you they didn’t have your favorite ravioli at the market, so that’s why she got you spaghetti.
Shred should be just part of the language of love, if it's constant it's like someone talking really fast to you in Welsh, you need some slower French and Spanish parts to get you feeling more sensual and in the mood. Then hitting some fast Welsh at the right moment will help you climax. That's the Buckethead method, it works every time.
No, you don’t understand. I could play that stuff if I wanted to, but I understand the importance of feel which makes me way better than all the people who actually know how to play the instrument.
Blooz has all the feel brother. I can comfortably play at 60bpm all day long just feelin it. My nephew says I play in step-dad speed but he don't know toan from 035
Can i just dislike something?
Like jesus christ I like melee competitive play, it's hard and technical and i wouldn't be surprised if most people found it boring
Eh, I will say a lot of shredders don’t understand how to play with “feel”, but when they do they sound great. Paul Gilbert is a great shredder who can play very soulfully
Damn, this sub really is just r/guitar 2.0, talking about "feel" and "soul" as if those are actually meaningful musical terms that mean anything beyond "I like how this sounds". Absolute boomer shit.
I don't know I didn't get that close, just kind of glared down at him as we crossed the road and he glared back. He sort of reminded me of a crusty sock.
I saw him at a music festival last summer, and the only thing I thought was how tiny he was. Like a little hairy gremlin. Which described most people at the festival to be honest
Blooz
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Ah hell yeah, I’m a big fan of “Modern/Math-y” solos.
That said, I generally find myself preferring the virtuosic offerings found in more niche genres like “Screamo”, “Rock & Roll”, “Spanish-y/Flamingo/Classical” and of course, “Theremicore”.
You’d be surprised. Tons of Gen Xers and Millennials are on Reddit. Even a good amount of baby boomers. I don’t know if any of those generations besides millennials at this point outnumber the Sooners but combined probably
That mathy-modern shit sounds like musical masturbation to me. Give me players like Slash, Jerry Cantrell, BB King and the like all the time and twice on Sundays
Paul Gilbert, pictured there on Shred, is the only shredder I actually like. I have no idea how but he makes it sound fun and happy. It's like he actually enjoys playing guitar instead of faking being in pain all the time.
Missed this, but I definitely would've voted blues, and it's not close. Both mathy stuff and shred are decent in context, but often it's guitarists playing incoherent drivel for the sake of look at me wankery.
Blues is best sounding to the ear, generates more feeling, and it's more about the soul than the wanking.
GNR is definitely more hair metal, yes, but Slash as a guitarist definitely had some blues influences. He played alongside B.B. King for a performance and fit in just fine, imo.
The only 3 genres
I accidentally pushed too hard on the string during my sick 32nd note legato run and it sounded like b00mer bend and now none of my friends will look me in the eye
I think that has more to do with the g-string Borat style bathing suit you wear to band practices, but what do I know
Rawk is about attitude bro, clearly you know nothing about music
The only bent g string I wanna see is the outline of your hog, bucko
probably, for some reason that one always goes out of tune...
Pain felt.
Eh brubber, I bennair!! HEH!! It habbens tooda bestuvus.
Rick Beato Approved
They left out Country. And Western.
What is this a Geography class? Are you stupid?
Yes
>The only 3 ~~genres~~ genders.
I play the minor pentatonic every hour on the hour
You gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers in this racket!
Slash, is that you?!
I am among you.
I tried to learn something else but watched this video with some white haired guy about borrowing 7ths from chromatic median modulations and something inside me died
Flamenco
Blooz flamenco
Paco DeLucia smoked a joint before recording Mediterranean Sundance with Al DiMeola because he was nervous [Mediterranean Sundance](https://youtu.be/A3m_SQFd3xg?si=a_dY7Phc2G_fj3tw)
u/j Al told us that at his show.
That’s just sophisticated shredding
Grandpas shredding
Inside you there are three Genres
One is gay, the other is gay, and the last one is gay
I like men
“What’s your current skill level”
I will never learn stupid scales like doorian or frigidian or pythagorian or whatever crap these kids use.
Math stays in the classroom!
More math, less feel. No thanks.
Ah yes, the gleefully ignorant. You know it doesn't hurt to actually know what you're doing on your instrument? In fact, you might even benefit from it 🤔 the fact that you referred to some basic music theory as "what the kids use" shows that you really don't have a clue. Name any of the modes, and you'll find most people use them in some way or another, whether they know it or not. You say dorian like it's some exotic scale only pretentious snobs use...
Go away. If I wanted schooling I would have gone to school.
That’s the joke.
Ah shit, I thought I was on the guitar lessons reddit
Man didn't check the jerk
You gotta know it all man it only adds to your vocabulary. I've mastered the C major, D dorian, E Phrygian, F Lydian, G Myxolydian, A minor and B Locrian. So much spice.
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>if you're playing jazz since your listeners I see you accidentally added an s.
Can't tell if trolling or not, but I'm going to assume you played piano for half an hour once
Well played
Hell yeah! Bobain said theory like doorian and arpegging is bad because it makes you less origimal, so i refuse to learn it either. Not worth ruining the feels for zoomer crap!!
"I mean I'd say I'm pretty intermediate, no I haven't had any lessons or any training, I just google tabs for songs I like, as long as its the same tuning my Epiphone came with"
I haven't listened to an album released after G'n'R Lies, and from what I can tell browsing Reddit, that was the right choice.
Yeah, REAL music, the track Patients was about an anaesthetist who owned a Slash Signed 1958 Les Paul Standard "Brazilian Dream".
And One in a Million is about how much Axl Rose appreciates the contributions to society of racial and sexual minorities.
slash's snakepit albums are pretty solid
Uj/ Him and Myles Kennedy have made some great stuff together
Fr, Anastasia is a masterpiece
UYI I and II are masterpieces. You’re missing out
Sir this is a circlejerk
lol
Its still crazy to me how a band with 1 good album is still so popular.
Uj/ the Use Your Illusion albums are pretty damn good. Even if you think they’re too much, you can put together one killer album out of the two.
Lies is great too, and even Chinese Democracy is a solid B-
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Lol no, what the fuck is this shit opinion
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except radiohead 🥰💕❤️😻
Exactly, you only need to listen to Pablo Honey, anything else is boring
Unironically better than King of Limbs, at least equal to Hail to the Theif. Radiohead fans need to stop lying to themselves.
So glad this isn't a uj comment. Uj/ fuck I hate radiohead
People actually listen to “shred”?
Micheal Angelo Batio's mom has been listening to him for 40 years
She gave him her keys to the Lamborghini.
Satriani and Vai and Yngwie toan /uj I have no idea who the guy is in the photo, lol, so I have no idea. Personally not a huge fan of Yngwie/Vai/Satriani style playing for songwriting , though. It’s not that they’re technical, you can be skilled and still write good songs. Look at Buckethead or Misha Mansoor for that.
/uj that’s Paul Gilbert lol
He don’t play on Polyphia doodle-doodle-ee riffs and supa clean toan? Not real. /uj Honestly, I have no idea who he is. My bad.
It's funny because he doesn't even really do shred anymore. He was on board with that whole neoclassical shred thing that everyone was doing in like the 80s when he led the band Racer X but in the last 20 years I think he hit a point where he realised he already achieved everything he wanted in that vein, so now he releases solo albums full of very self-indulgent blues rock. And I don't mean that in a bad way, the guy just wants to write weird blues songs for himself and they're fairly decent.
Not being funny, but that Henson stuff sounds like a shred guitarist playing while falling down a loooooong flight of stairs.
This really needs to be the video for the next Polyfiller song 🙏
Haha. M C Escher stairs at that. Toad Hemstone is far too artistic to use just any old staircase.
If you play guitar buy don't like shred, what the fuck made you even pick up the guitar in the first place. Yeah yeah, tasteful blues etc etc etc.... but come on, every musician likes to shred, and if they don't, it's because they can't and they wish they could
I’m not sure if you’re jerking but aren’t there people who picked up guitar to play heavy riffs, singer songwriter type chordal stuff, rhythmic funk guitar, or even like shoegaze stuff? I feel like “shredding” is definitely over hated for the reasons you mention but saying that it’s the universal basis for guitar players picking up guitar doesn’t really check out.
hypotenuse rock
I wish I was high on potenuse...
Haha high on potenuse!
I know two of em from this forum but WHO is the substitute teacher standing in the middle with a red guitar.
John Guitar
My auntie Samantha
-obscure subgenre of metal -80s metal -Two of the largest and oldest popular music genres, combined in the same category for some reason Which do you think will win???
Playing the guitar with barely any distortion using string and body taps that sounds like some asmr video to calm special children is my favorite genre of metal! Obscure is definately /j I'm assuming
The obscure part was genuine BUT in my defense I've never found math rock stuff out in the wild, mostly just in this sub. I have no idea how popular it is in the real world.
I play country💀
Blooz country
I feel attacked
[I play rhythm guitar](https://media.tenor.com/IZHrApbRyVcAAAAC/emoji-watching-from-shadows-emoji.gif)
That's just blooz rock with an accent
/uj i'm honestly convinced that the only reason people like to shit on shredders so much is because they cant play that well themselves.
a lot of people can shred but very few of them are interesting to listen to when they do so.
that's true, but a lot of people can play blues and very few of them are interesting to listen to when they do so cliched licks are cliched licks in any genre/style
Then you get freaks like Eric Gales that manage to get away with doing both, the lucky dog
That's very fair actually.
/uj Malmsteen wrote some killer riffs, unironically
/uj Malmsteen legit wrote good songs and legit changed how guitar players played. He's as influential as EVH for guitars IMHO. He's just an easy target to make fun of. I know Gambale was also the sweep guy at that time as well, but it's just like how EVH didn't invent tapping but only popularized it.
Yeah, and a lot of people can't shred and still aren't interesting to listen to. There is an annual blues rock festival in my city. I rarely miss it. I like the atmosphere and the music, but very often the only bands that are actually worth listening to are the headliners and the occasional metal band - and although my taste certainly plays a part here, the biggest problem is that most blues guitarists there just play exactly the same stuff over the same chord progressions, at the same tempo...
/uj there are some legit critics to some shredders like "it's more finger gymnastic than music", "it's knitting". imo it's more like, not a lot of people want to hear some perflectly played neo classical licks with distortion, this is not relatable. Funky rythm or even campfire strumming sounds better to non guitarists.
UJ I can’t shred at all. I think it’s cool but, it’s like a woman telling you about her day. after 30 seconds I go deaf. Like someone taking ten minutes to tell you they didn’t have your favorite ravioli at the market, so that’s why she got you spaghetti.
Shred should be just part of the language of love, if it's constant it's like someone talking really fast to you in Welsh, you need some slower French and Spanish parts to get you feeling more sensual and in the mood. Then hitting some fast Welsh at the right moment will help you climax. That's the Buckethead method, it works every time.
That’s a great analogy.
No, you don’t understand. I could play that stuff if I wanted to, but I understand the importance of feel which makes me way better than all the people who actually know how to play the instrument.
Blooz has all the feel brother. I can comfortably play at 60bpm all day long just feelin it. My nephew says I play in step-dad speed but he don't know toan from 035
Can i just dislike something? Like jesus christ I like melee competitive play, it's hard and technical and i wouldn't be surprised if most people found it boring
Eh, I will say a lot of shredders don’t understand how to play with “feel”, but when they do they sound great. Paul Gilbert is a great shredder who can play very soulfully
Damn, this sub really is just r/guitar 2.0, talking about "feel" and "soul" as if those are actually meaningful musical terms that mean anything beyond "I like how this sounds". Absolute boomer shit.
Thank you
/uj shredding sounds boring as fuck
/uj, I can shred, but I don’t like listening to it, so I don’t put it in my songs. I use it for practice
Sure thing buddy
Pretty stupid thing to imply you don’t believe, most metal guitarists can shred, which is a massive number of people
All the Lawyers and Dentists came out of the woodworks of their lunch break to respond to the poll.
Its funny if you just look at the pictures. The middle guy has his hand up to warn that top guy to stay away from him.
went down to the blues bank tried to take out a blues loan
I walked past bradley hall on my way to the bank last year. He is a short person.
How did he smell? He looks like he smells... Odd. Not necessarily stinky, but not pleasant either.
I don't know I didn't get that close, just kind of glared down at him as we crossed the road and he glared back. He sort of reminded me of a crusty sock.
I saw him at a music festival last summer, and the only thing I thought was how tiny he was. Like a little hairy gremlin. Which described most people at the festival to be honest
Turtle neck boy uses more whammy than anybody. So stop call it Math/Prog and call it what it is. Whammy rock.
What's math rock? The only math I need in my music is 0+3+5=10.
I GOT THE BLUEEEES BABYBAY, BLUE BLUES BLUES BLUES BLUES
Imagine playing lead guitar
I can't downvote here, but if I could I would
1-4-5
IT’S 0-3-5
Mathy is when play more than five notes per octave.
What genre is it when you buy a guitar, never play it, and stare at it longingly in a half open bathrobe?
Blooz every Bless Pile, in every color, every year till you die and whoever wins the bid on the storage locker hocks them at the nearest pawnshop for .001 of what you paid for them.
Then they're spread like fungal spores to others that will inevitably do the same.
I mean, if 'power chords' was an option there, it'd be at 99%
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Ah hell yeah, I’m a big fan of “Modern/Math-y” solos. That said, I generally find myself preferring the virtuosic offerings found in more niche genres like “Screamo”, “Rock & Roll”, “Spanish-y/Flamingo/Classical” and of course, “Theremicore”.
Slash’s popularity to this day is crazy to me.
I'm not a huge fan, but when he pulls it out of the bag he can seriously play
The best music is listened to. Not watched. Not counted.
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Which means even they don't like their music.
You’d be surprised. Tons of Gen Xers and Millennials are on Reddit. Even a good amount of baby boomers. I don’t know if any of those generations besides millennials at this point outnumber the Sooners but combined probably
There are 5 minor pentatonic shapes and 5 natural minor shapes. That is all.
Fuck you im gen z and i thing Math rock sucks
Not a huge blues fan but the math stuff is annoying and a lot of shred is redundant so I guess none of these for me lol.
That mathy-modern shit sounds like musical masturbation to me. Give me players like Slash, Jerry Cantrell, BB King and the like all the time and twice on Sundays
Paul Gilbert, pictured there on Shred, is the only shredder I actually like. I have no idea how but he makes it sound fun and happy. It's like he actually enjoys playing guitar instead of faking being in pain all the time.
Metal people just genuinely don't understand that things exist outside their tiny sphere. Not all metal people, you know the ones I mean
Missed this, but I definitely would've voted blues, and it's not close. Both mathy stuff and shred are decent in context, but often it's guitarists playing incoherent drivel for the sake of look at me wankery. Blues is best sounding to the ear, generates more feeling, and it's more about the soul than the wanking.
/uj I looked at the options, clicked Blues/Rock, and when I saw 51% had clicked that I audibly said "ew"
Suck it Boomer. The math rock has babes playing guitar
That Tim Henson lady sure is purdy
I went to the crossroooad, fell down on myyy knees
Gotta love John Mayer ear massaging the listener with blues solos.
I actually like some blues rock as a Gen Z earthling, but only when we both suck it together
Shocking, the lowest bar for entry has the most entries.
All of them suck tbh
At playing guitar yes, as guitar salesmen no.
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GNR is definitely more hair metal, yes, but Slash as a guitarist definitely had some blues influences. He played alongside B.B. King for a performance and fit in just fine, imo.
Shred was the correct answer , most ya'll failed
The chick on top is kinda hot.
i like whatever the fuck jonny greenwood does
Uj/ ambiant
option d: funky
Is Paul Gilbert really the best example of “shred” guitar they could come up with lol
And Slush is the best blues-rock?
It's not blues-rock though. It specifically states Blues / Rock. Slash is the original blues slash rocker.
I had a feeling my formatting was going to get me in trouble…
Well of course Dad Rock is still king. The boomers burnt down the f****** house behind them so nobody else could get as popular.
Ah yes, the 3 genders
That Henson person literally scares me.
I'm waiting for him to retire from music and become a tech entrepreneur.
Rhythm guitar is the new lead guitar, bro.
Suck it Gen X, Kuntry Bluuz will always be king
as a Gen Z weirdo, i agree that blooz is king
There's only 3 genders
Why is Scott Weiland playing guitar?
Reminder that even Periphery put "the lick" in their song Reptile https://youtu.be/zwdK4_cNWHY?si=BAiPSbDbGCNloKpm
What about the intro to I’ve Just Seen a Face over and over
I prefer to listen to Erik Clap-on, Clap-off more than any other boozer.
Boomer post.
Metal
My favorite type of lead guitar is nirvana
Suicidal thoughts
Blues SLASH rock
I thought it was blews????
Where's melodic? I don't consider Satch or Vai "shredders" their music is intricate and has melody.
Gypsy jazz obviously, those guys rock
Kazoo
What kind of food do you like, American? Mexican? Chinese/Italian?.... Blues and rock are very different
I'm sure Tim Henson would agree from atop his giant pile of money
Shawn Lane trumps all 3 of those genres 😁