You won’t be able to date it. It’s an English body with American parts thrown on it. The body could be anywhere from late 40 to the 70s. But the lever cap, adjustment knob are type 11 or earlier. I can’t make out a the stamp on the cutter, but it’s a pre type 19 since the top doesn’t have rounded features.
On the right track here. However, i think the iron is replaced (although early T19s did have squared off tops of irons) as well as the keyhole lever cap; the casting of the cheeks is on the heavy side, indicative of post WWII production; if the tote and knob are original to the plane, that places it squarely post '60s given the heavy lacquer treatment and the shapes. So no way its a T16. A bit of a frankenplane, but not overly so, and it will likely perform well so long as the frog was not substituted, as the replaced lever cap, iron and likely chipbreaker make little difference in performance.
Possibly be a hybrid, I would say. Or what is often called a bastard.
As others have said, dating of Made in England is a completely different thing than for US made Stanleys. What also throws you off is the keyhole-shaped hole in the lever cap, and the absence of a Stanley logotype on it.
Google “dating uk Stanley” and you will find some information to help you. Eg I think UK manufacturing started post WWII so that will at least set some upper limit on its age. It could very well be from the 70s with a different cap iron.
> Type 15 (1931-1932),
> the English equivalent of a Type 15.
English planes are different, Stanley weren't even making tools in England before 1936
http://thevalleywoodworker.blogspot.com/2016/01/stanley-in-england.html
I don't think there are type studies as precise as the ones for the american made planes unfortunately. Only link I know of is this: https://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/02/20/stanley-english-type-study-draft/
if the frog is an ogee shape (hard to tell in the photo but it looks like it may be ogee) then its probably a 16 that someone put the old style lever cap on.
Sole says type 16, lever cap and depth adjustment wheel look type 11, knob is post type 11, can't discern the marking on the iron but would venture to guess from the pitting that it's pre-16. Nice harlequin tho.
It looks like you're trying to identify the age of a hand plane. Sometimes this can be a difficult task!
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Looks like somebody put the bits from an old US made plane on an UK one.
can't blame them, rosewood, plus those lever caps are way nicer.. and age better!
There is a good site for record planes history, the stanleys mirror the changes pretty closely.
The made in england ones don't follow the US dating pattern. Try to find info about dating the England ones instead.
Just ask her out
Take a bow! You just made me laugh out loud in a coffee shop.
Just remember 16 will get 20.
You know you’ve been in the shop too long when you start looking at your tools like that
You won’t be able to date it. It’s an English body with American parts thrown on it. The body could be anywhere from late 40 to the 70s. But the lever cap, adjustment knob are type 11 or earlier. I can’t make out a the stamp on the cutter, but it’s a pre type 19 since the top doesn’t have rounded features.
On the right track here. However, i think the iron is replaced (although early T19s did have squared off tops of irons) as well as the keyhole lever cap; the casting of the cheeks is on the heavy side, indicative of post WWII production; if the tote and knob are original to the plane, that places it squarely post '60s given the heavy lacquer treatment and the shapes. So no way its a T16. A bit of a frankenplane, but not overly so, and it will likely perform well so long as the frog was not substituted, as the replaced lever cap, iron and likely chipbreaker make little difference in performance.
Possibly be a hybrid, I would say. Or what is often called a bastard. As others have said, dating of Made in England is a completely different thing than for US made Stanleys. What also throws you off is the keyhole-shaped hole in the lever cap, and the absence of a Stanley logotype on it. Google “dating uk Stanley” and you will find some information to help you. Eg I think UK manufacturing started post WWII so that will at least set some upper limit on its age. It could very well be from the 70s with a different cap iron.
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> Type 15 (1931-1932), > the English equivalent of a Type 15. English planes are different, Stanley weren't even making tools in England before 1936 http://thevalleywoodworker.blogspot.com/2016/01/stanley-in-england.html I don't think there are type studies as precise as the ones for the american made planes unfortunately. Only link I know of is this: https://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/02/20/stanley-english-type-study-draft/
Thank you
if the frog is an ogee shape (hard to tell in the photo but it looks like it may be ogee) then its probably a 16 that someone put the old style lever cap on.
I believe there's a sub for this kind of kink. R/dontputyourdickinit
Sole says type 16, lever cap and depth adjustment wheel look type 11, knob is post type 11, can't discern the marking on the iron but would venture to guess from the pitting that it's pre-16. Nice harlequin tho.
It looks like you're trying to identify the age of a hand plane. Sometimes this can be a difficult task! If the plane is a Stanley, you can usually get a good estimate on the age by using this [handy reference](https://woodandshop.com/identify-stanley-hand-plane-age-type-study/). If the plane is by another manufacturer, then you might find some more information [here](https://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/01/26/quickly-identify-your-hand-plane/). Hopefully that is enough to get you started, but I'm sure someone will be along with oddly specific knowledge before you know it! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/handtools) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Looks like somebody put the bits from an old US made plane on an UK one. can't blame them, rosewood, plus those lever caps are way nicer.. and age better! There is a good site for record planes history, the stanleys mirror the changes pretty closely.
This is from the age of yesteryorn.
You’re going to need Stanley no 2’s blessing.