Unless you are getting onto the pelican then the only reason to pick up samples at extraction is to combine them into a single sample pile when you drop them.
Remember that samples are shared as well so it doesn't matter who has them at extraction.
Additionally for those that are looking for the sample extraction achievement, I've seen a number of random teams help a random get the achievement. Just tell people. [science is done by quantity](https://psnprofiles.com/guide/18732-helldivers-2-trophy-guide#40-science-is-done-by-quantity) does require the person getting the achievement to be the one holding the samples.
There is a second achievement, [samples are a divers best friend](https://psnprofiles.com/guide/18732-helldivers-2-trophy-guide#10-samples-are-a-divers-best-friend) which applies to the entire team.
To drop samples on console you hold down on the dpad and then move the joystick to the bottom right then release the dpad. On PC by default you hold X to open the drop menu.
Something worth knowing (that my friend found out the hard way):
When you're at extraction and the samples are on the ground, don't deploy a bubble shield turret. When the shield activates, it launches the samples, so you'll need to chase after them in the chaos of extraction.
Note that you can deploy the bubble shield first, and THEN drop your samples inside of it. But the process of deploying the shield where it expands and pushes objects already on the ground is what actually yeets them into oblivion
You used to be able to do that with a well-timed supply drop under the pelican. If it popped up at the moment your ride touched down, you'd send the pelican spinning into the air, lol
I wonder if it could launch them out of one of those explodable vent holes. I've seen people walk right into them and lose the samples at the bottom. I think I'll test this out the next time I have a chance
I've lost far too many samples in Death Holes. Several good Helldivers are then lost falling into death holes in a vain attempt to retrieve them. Fortunately, life is cheap! Samples are not.
I was playing a round the other night and had dropped off a fat stack of samples (6 super rares and 20+ others) at Evac site before running off for more objectives. About a minute later I pull up the map and see the samples I dropped just slowly/casually slide north away from the Evac site by probably 100m. Not sure what happened, idk if enemy fire can do something like that
Also good to consolidate samples onto one person if the Pelican is called in early and has been sitting there a while/or is smoking. Sometimes, the first person on is the only person. Was with a group last night where I saw that it was smoking. The one guy not on coms was picking up all the dropped samples, and we finally got him, through lots of miming and pings, to grab the last samples and get on the pelican.
This is valid. Though my bigger frustration is when someone dies and they drop their primary on top of the samples and now you have to swap your primary weapon 8 times before it finally grabs samples.
I'd prefer to do that once rather than 4 different time you know?
Im still waiting for the QOL update where samples get picked up before guns.
Finished all the achievements like 2 months ago. Need to double check the exact date.
Last achievement earned was complete 100 missions
The extract in under 6 minutes for a blitz and 6 orbitals in one spot i got done back to back Thanks a group that helped.
First attempt at getting others to help to.
Keep in mind. The community had little to none toxicity yet.
Ahhh the "combining samples please don't kick me" mantra I recite......although the panic that you hear if everyone is mic'd is delicious lol. There's an intake a collective breaths and a few mumbled "for fuck....." and then you hear the relief when you drop em again and the collective "ohhhhh" it's a 2 seconds emotional rollercoaster
I usually just wait to see if they leave the extract before saying anything and if I'm doing it I will usually unmute my mic and say "hey I'm going to combine the samples and then drop them again"
I get you though.
Yeah I had incident where some weasel killed me and took my samples and then when I confront him about it all they kept repeating was that "I need those samples bro". Like no matter how many ways I explained it to him that the samples are shared and only one person needs to pick them up he kept insisting that he would continue killing me because he "needed the samples bro" so I ended up shooting him as we was extracting I couldn't get his teammate because he was already in the pelican but there was grouped up together I joined them. And then I essentially just made sure the pelican was almost countdown and then I just backed out and quit so he didn't get no samples.
Moral. of the story is don't play stupid games because they hand out stupid prizes.
I feel you. I had one game where a person kept team killing people for samples and even ended up killing someone when we had no reinforcements left. After he died I grabbed the samples and jumped into a lake before quitting (at this point it was just me and him left and this was on dif 8 with all 5 supers in possession)
This was a while ago now and not a common occurance for me at least (most of my experiences with randoms have been very positive and a couple of the randoms I've played with I've become good friends with and like we've added eachother on Facebook and shit... One of them we work in the same industry for different companies and get off work about the same time so it's usually a get online and talk about our days and bitch about work in a way that people that don't work in our industry don't typically fully get you know?)
Point is, I get you.
If your team drop the biggest bombs on the pelican I always tell my team to combine all samples to one guy so he can go first as the pelican might only take one guy.
I've seen a lot more players leaving samples at extract and giving them all to one diver as of late. Seems like the majority of players are getting the memo
when i play with my friends we all either leave the samples at extract if itās not too far or leave them all with 1 designated person whoās only orders are āif shit hits the fan make sure YOU GET OUTTA HERE ALIVEā
Itās not a glitch. The pelican can take damage. The more damaged, the fewer the helldivers it can take. When itās on fire and billowing smoke it will only take 1 helldiver. The biggest way it takes damage is from players. I donāt think Iāve seen enemies do enough damage. It usually happens from 500kgs or 380 on extract (when the place is overran).
You may not be experiencing a glitch. If the ship takes too much damage it'll leave without the full squad. Maybe so, maybe no but regardless the Pelican will take damage and can leave some behind if it's burning up.
It really makes sense even if you're not aware of it. When I first started doing it, it was after someone dropped samples and I picked them up and then stopped to ask myself why they dropped them in the first place. Noticed I was standing in the middle of extraction and dropped all the samples I was holding and carried on.
I told someone to drop samples at extraction. Guy didn't know how to drop them, but the guy blew himself up just because he wanted to be a good teammate and leave them there, lol. We made sure he knew how to drop them without dying the next time lol.
If it was you, then u had me dying, lol. We both at extraction I typed drop your samples here and we will go to the next point. Then he kinda stands around looking like how ... then all of a sudden, he throws an impact grenade, blows himself to pieces, and sends a message saying ok dropped em let's go.
I'd have typed "there's a better way to do that but sure that works lol" then said "if you're on PC, pres and hold X and you can see a radial wheel, bottom right"
As a brief FYI, when dropping the samples, remember the extraction beacon counts a a projectile for physics. If it hits the sample container it will send it flying. Possibly off the map.
Ask me how I know.
if youāre on console, hold the ādownā(i think itās down if not one of the directional buttons) button on the D-pad and then rotate to the ādrop samplesā tab and then release it and theyāll drop. You can drop samples, your backpack, and i believe your heavy weapon as well all from that same menu as wellš«”
I found what I (mistakenly, apparently) assumed was discarded gear (like it was summoned but the drop pods destroyed so grear is laying on the ground) so I picked it up and used it.Ā
Then a teammate came over and stood next to me and melee'd me once. I laughed and promptly dropped the gear. They picked it up and I melee'd them back and ran off. Freedom High Five! Good times. Lol
Once a guy died and i picked up is samples. He shot me in the leg telling me not to take his stuff.....i shot him in the head and told him that its our stuff.
I've nicked a fellow divers primary before now when I was trying out other guns and found out they sucked. I mean, the dude is coming down with a fresh one so it's free loot at that point.
yup! if youāre on console hold ādownā on the d-pad and use the right stick to select what u want to drop and you can drop samples, backpacks, and heavy weapons!
This ever becomes a thing, ima make you clean my ship's toilets after I treat my entire crew and the ship's Helldivers to a spicy motherfuckin democracy Taco Bell
Itās okay, I had a teammate the other week that we were doing the collect data mission and had to retrieve both SSDs, I got mine to the terminal.
The other guy got his SSD and decided to go into a heavy bug base to destroy it with the SSD in his hand and then died and dropped it right in the middle of the base. Also, the other 2 players didnāt seem to have much experience, all my stratagems had run out at that point, so I couldnāt take out the heavy bug base by myself so we failed the mission because he actively took the ssd into the middle of the enemy bade. He couldnāt even leave it on the outskirts. Beyond infuriating
People donāt read chat.
I was mid mission, and actually a friend was in my game along with 2 randos.
Had a real life emergency come up - pet problem - needed immediate attention.
I type in the chat, āif Iām dead, donāt Rez me. Only Rez if others are dead. Let me die.ā
They Rez me two times and I die, I see this, so I typed a dozen times āSTOP REZING ME - I HAVE PROBLEM - AFK, ONLT REZ EACHOTHER - LET ME DIE AND STAY DEADā
Gues what they did?
Burned 11 reinforcements on an AFK player who told them specifically Not To in the chat.
I was gonna kick the randos of braindeadesness and lack of reading comprehension, but my buddy on mic said āoh I didnāt see that in the chat. Now that you point it out, itās hard to missā
I let them stay but randos wound up QUITTING probably because they blamed me for burning our reinforcements and dying.
My buddy and I beat the mission with 0 reinforcements, 0 samples, and 10/10 frustrated panic.
What did we learn?
1 No one reads the chat
2 people should read the chat
The chat is a mess, It gets filled with in game notification to quickly for it to be a reliable teams comms method. They need a chat window that is just chat and not combined with event notifications.
Exactly this before people running around if you're all high levels it's very easy for all of you to constantly find places of interest and ping things. I don't delete a simple thank you out of existence within a couple seconds of being on the screen
We need a visual/audio notification when the chat gets input from a person, or just decrease the font size for poi
We don't always needs to see SOMEONE DISCOVERED LIGHT NEST, awesome, saw it in the map already....
In fact, we probably don't need to be spammed by chat when someone finds a point of interest, ITS ON THE MAP, just let us know when someone points out an actual objective.
I agree that people should pay more attention to the chat window. I also think that the chat window should get a rework.
But I feel there's also a fault on your part. You could've just left the game. This won't end the session for your team. You can reenter the game, by joining your buddy granted the squad isn't full.
Well tbf, depending on how long you were gone or what difficulty. Unless they changed it in the month Iāve taken a break you canāt decide who to rez if two people are down. Maybe they got massively overrun and randos were under skilled to compensate being a player down.
Nobody ever listens to comms. My two frustrations are picked up samples left at Evac, and needing help for buddy bunkers. I've typed in chat whilst saying over comms on these two issues and people ignore BOTH!
Chat is garbage, too much clutter, if you have something important to say, say it on micā¦ use push to talk, I rarely speak unless I have something worthwhile to say or I e met a cool squad.
Yeah I watched a tips and tricks video where they mentioned dropping samples at extraction point. I was like āHOLY SHIT, WHAT?ā
Such a simple, eloquent idea. I am seeing it more often in-game now, so thatās a plus.
Maybe use a mic next time? People miss stuff in chat bc it quickly gets filled with other nonsense. I swear, like 9 out of 10 people are afraid to speak in this game... I just don't get it.
Additional note, when dropping samples at extraction, do not drop them in the area the Pelican lands. Had Pelican land on top of samples and no one could pick them up!
of course! it just makes things a little bit more bearable in difficulty 8 and 9 when you donāt have to worry about running 300m across the map and surviving the walk back to extraction without dying again and losing the samples for good
My fav was last night buddy called in extract and I announced I was going to run 300m to get all the samples there were dropped on death (Two drops). And to hold the extract. Lowest level there boards immediately and dicks over the rest of the squad and I miss extract by like 5 secs.
Literally the only one to leave. No samples at all. Why? Just why?
Had this happen to me yesterday but I turned on my mic and told him to drop it and taught him the button. Thankfully a non issue after that. Be cool if they could add the strat as a tip during loading screens for players.
People actually pick up a sample, run it over to the extraction site, run back to where they were to continue the mission, find another sample, run it back to the extraction site, run back to continue the mission... That sounds exhausting.
I usually see people drop the samples at extract when they have the supers, personally I don't do it cause I don't expect to die much and if I do die i'm most likely gonna be running back to get my gear anyway so i'll be able to grab the samples as well. Hell if i'm killed across the map from my team it's probably cause I was trying to do an objective or interest point there that i'm gonna go back and do anyway so I would've had to cross the map anyway.
Well this happened to me, but the one did that was the host. I got 6 super samples, almost 20 rare and common. I drop it at extraction point and message them, then leave for obj. Everything went fine, itās time we called down the extract. We got swarmed with bots soon after that, got pinned down but not too bad. This Buffoon of a host, picked up those samples while we were all busy, ran outside of the extraction perimeter to push them bots, got flushed out by a couple of hulks and a bunch of devas, berserkers,ā¦ all by himself. I didnāt realize he got the samples until he died and those samples subtraction appear on screen. I called him down, run over there in hope that I can find a way to retreat them, saw the horde and knew it was over. We ended up extract with 1 or 2 rare samples that someone still holding onā¦ I was so disappointed I couldnāt even get madā¦
Had a dude do this once. Warned him over and over and over but I wasn't the host and couldn't kick him, so I shot his ass and left š¤· 100% worth the court-martial
Ha, I donāt think twice about kicking people like that.
Just for reference Iām playing Helldive where there are a lot of lvl 70+ people who have everything and should know by now.
When I play lower difficulties I am much more understanding.
Either way, I recommend just hopping on the mic and telling them what youād like to happen. 19 in 20 times they acquiesce
youd be surprised
died and had a guy with a quasar pick up my autocannon backpack from me, figured he was doin it to give it to me later.
Asked in chat and in voice to hand it back cause mine was on cooldown and he wasnt interested in buddy reloading since he was running off
The urge to kill was huge but luckily he kept dying and raged quit.
Idk why but out of all things that has bothered me the most
Dude was like lvl 50
Iām not surprised at all, how many of those guys do you run into? Iāve played a lot of hours and have met a handful of them. Really think about how many games youāve played and how many people did this
I agree, this happened on a hell dive mission too lmao. if itās lower level missions itās whatever, but on helldive where itās already really challenging why make more work for us down the line? extracting with no samples is pointless for most people whoāve been playing for awhile so why make it harder by having to fight all the way back to where they were last dropped you know?
Not everyone knows english...just saying....yall complain about Sony banning certain countries then treat them shitty cuz they don't follow your concepts...lol
I've had a guy do the same. We grabbed the super samples near extraction and were passing through extraction to the main objective, and we dropped them on extract. Some level 30 joins and runs around collecting samples on his lonesome, and I kept an eye on him on the map. Saw him beeline for extraction, pick up the super samples and then head away from extraction. Kicked him immediately.
At 30 you should know this. Plus he died 3 times in the first 5 minutes. No way am I running halfway across map to retrieve those samples.
Did you use your microphone? Did you ask if the player even speaks English?Ā
I play this game every once in a while to blow off steam. You can't realistically expect everyone to know all these tips/tricks.
Been hearing a disturbing amount of stories of players that apparently do this on purpose just to mess with other players. Even worse is that they like to jump in holes or deep water to prevent anyone from being able to get them.
Always remember drop super samples at the extraction and subsequent samples that you may have picked up no one wants to run all the way across the map into a swarm of bugs or robots just to get the samples You should have just left at the extraction Stop being greedy people If I come across any players that do this I'm kicking you out
This is why I do not pick up samples at all. I know Iām that guy that if thereās even a single objective thatās not complete Iām not even attempting to extract until itās done. I donāt care where the pelican is.
Then there's me, clearing the whole map, grabbing over 30 samples while the team cleared the OBJs, as the ship lands they kick me.
Fuckin assholes. I'll be salty about that one for a while.
I got kicked once for picking up samples at the extract site. I picked it up just to combine them with mine and then would drop it so thereās only one container to pick up. Before I could let them know my intent, I got the olā boot.
I had a teammate go off by themselves and mysteriously die - thought it was odd as they had been ripping it up and I hadnāt seen any enemies that way or heard any fighting at the time.
A bit later I noticed there were still samples where they died so I walked halfway across the map to get get them only to find they were down one of those bottomless boreholesā¦
My man had single handedly cleared half the map, and he died by falling in a hole.
Bro, I straight up kill guys in my squad at extract for no reason, and I donāt feel bad - so thereās no reason for you to feel bad at all.
Weāre all in this together.
Remember
Not everyone has the same mindset
Not everyone understands your plan.
To many players won't communicate what their doing, and things fall apart.
Sounds like he was trying to make sure they weren't lost. Sounds like he didn't understand why you left them.
I was playing host last night. Medium level with rare samples and I had 8-10 of them. We complete the (very easy) objectives and I take a little detour before going to extract. One player bee-lined it over before the last objective was complete and calls extract in when Iām a good 2-1/2 min run away. They board the pelican without me with like 2 samples so I kick the lot of them. No one gets samples, but only I get mission complete rewards.
/impending downvotes
If you're playing with random people, this will always be a risk.
Not everyone is on voice chat
Not everyone reads regular chat
Not everyone *can* read chat
Not everyone is on Reddit picking up tips and tricks
It sucks, I feel you, it happens a lot, but unless they're intentionally trying to die...
Saw a blueberry do that after typing and voicing it. Everyone else was on board. He runs from the obj ALL THE EAY BACK to extract PICKS THEM UP after staring at them for 30secs come BACK to the obj we were already running back to extra t from . Goes BEHIND the enemy and dies. I never left a match so fast.
Some people donāt know how to drop things. Remember how long the training is.
Chill out.
If they didnāt leave them underwater and you didnāt go back for them? Thatās on you.
One further tip to this. Sometimes, extraction is going to be BOILING hot and a few seconds might mean the difference between success and painful, agonizing FAILURE.
Instead of everyone dropping sample vials all over the extraction, clean that shit up. Grab the vials so that they're all in your inventory, and then drop ONE in a place where it's easy to find, not crowded with support weapons, supply drops or other debris, and where it's easily visible. Then, when the Pelican comes in and 4 Hulks, 2 Factory Striders, and Alexus himself is coming after you, screaming for your blood and your balance, you grab the samples, leap onto the ramp, and laugh all the way to the upgrade station.
Some people ignore chat box, but this is a good strategy I see used often. Thankfully I havenāt seen anyone pick them up yet, you got paired with someone without common sense.
I kick people all the time for doing stupid shit on helldive. Redditors will whine about "toxic players" kicking people all the time but will never admit that some people are bad or stupid enough to warrant it.
Maybe an unpopular opinion, and also maybe because my samples have been maxed for a hot min.
But it's really not that big of a deal.
Definitely not worth kicking someone over.
This happens on my lvl7+ missions more than it should. Do people have chat off or smth? I will literally call the player out in all caps and it's like they are purposely ignoring me. It makes me irrationally angry.
Most people don't know how to drop samples plus if I had some random dude bossing me around over samples when I'm just tryna have fun and play the game I'd probably just ignore them tbh. If you wanna be that anal about things play private with friends
You had every right to kick them since you were host but you expect too much from randoms lol dick move
Unless you are getting onto the pelican then the only reason to pick up samples at extraction is to combine them into a single sample pile when you drop them. Remember that samples are shared as well so it doesn't matter who has them at extraction. Additionally for those that are looking for the sample extraction achievement, I've seen a number of random teams help a random get the achievement. Just tell people. [science is done by quantity](https://psnprofiles.com/guide/18732-helldivers-2-trophy-guide#40-science-is-done-by-quantity) does require the person getting the achievement to be the one holding the samples. There is a second achievement, [samples are a divers best friend](https://psnprofiles.com/guide/18732-helldivers-2-trophy-guide#10-samples-are-a-divers-best-friend) which applies to the entire team. To drop samples on console you hold down on the dpad and then move the joystick to the bottom right then release the dpad. On PC by default you hold X to open the drop menu.
Something worth knowing (that my friend found out the hard way): When you're at extraction and the samples are on the ground, don't deploy a bubble shield turret. When the shield activates, it launches the samples, so you'll need to chase after them in the chaos of extraction.
This is valuable intelligence that I was not aware of. Thank you for this contribution.
Note that you can deploy the bubble shield first, and THEN drop your samples inside of it. But the process of deploying the shield where it expands and pushes objects already on the ground is what actually yeets them into oblivion
Most useful comment I have read since the game launched. Thanks!
Imagine if it pushes the pelican when it deploys. š
That would be hilarious š
Especially if it yeets the ship across the map.
Pelican yeeted itself using my body once
You used to be able to do that with a well-timed supply drop under the pelican. If it popped up at the moment your ride touched down, you'd send the pelican spinning into the air, lol
Wait, really?
Ye
Thank you for this. I don't think that is intentional behavior and possibly a bug
To avoid doing, right? Right?!?
This is very interesting. Maybe I use this knowledge to eject them from a bad zone, like a crowded area or away from underwater where someone drown.
I wonder if it could launch them out of one of those explodable vent holes. I've seen people walk right into them and lose the samples at the bottom. I think I'll test this out the next time I have a chance
I've lost far too many samples in Death Holes. Several good Helldivers are then lost falling into death holes in a vain attempt to retrieve them. Fortunately, life is cheap! Samples are not.
Please report back with your results. Those holes suck!
Mega brain
Pretty sure it wonāt work in water unless theyāre somewhat close to shore, donāt most call downs fizzle if the beacons are thrown into water?
Iāve seen clips of that. Itās both funnier and more tragic than a squad wipe from a friendly airstrike in equal measure.
You've saved many lives helldiver, a recommendation has been sent to the Ministry of Health that you be granted a C-01
I was playing a round the other night and had dropped off a fat stack of samples (6 super rares and 20+ others) at Evac site before running off for more objectives. About a minute later I pull up the map and see the samples I dropped just slowly/casually slide north away from the Evac site by probably 100m. Not sure what happened, idk if enemy fire can do something like that
WHAT?!?!?! Thatās crazy!!! Going to drop into a trivial later and try it out lol
Holy moly, wtf??? I did not know that and will certainly avoid this situation. Ty for helping me spread dat democracy more effectively
That's actually hilarious š
If you're far away then launch them towards the extraction?
Preach fellow democratic freedom lover.
Drop menu is also really useful in case you get a resupply stuck to your shield gen pack. Saved my life a couple times.
I cannot believe I never thought of dropping the shield backpack. You have educated another diver this day and it is massively appreciated.
Also good to consolidate samples onto one person if the Pelican is called in early and has been sitting there a while/or is smoking. Sometimes, the first person on is the only person. Was with a group last night where I saw that it was smoking. The one guy not on coms was picking up all the dropped samples, and we finally got him, through lots of miming and pings, to grab the last samples and get on the pelican.
This is valid. Though my bigger frustration is when someone dies and they drop their primary on top of the samples and now you have to swap your primary weapon 8 times before it finally grabs samples. I'd prefer to do that once rather than 4 different time you know? Im still waiting for the QOL update where samples get picked up before guns.
Samples should automatically get picked up when you run over them.
The only reason I don't like this is accidentally picking them up if you tried dropping them at extract but otherwise yeah
That's fair!
The whole pick up system in the game is a joke. Itās 50/50 whether Iāll pick something up or not
I usually just ask if anyone need to do the achievement
I respect this. š Take this medal for your service
Finished all the achievements like 2 months ago. Need to double check the exact date. Last achievement earned was complete 100 missions The extract in under 6 minutes for a blitz and 6 orbitals in one spot i got done back to back Thanks a group that helped. First attempt at getting others to help to. Keep in mind. The community had little to none toxicity yet.
This guy samples.
That *still* needs to be an emote.
Oh sweet baby Jesus thank you for telling me how I can drop samples on PS5. I was bummed when I couldn't figure it out lol.
Ahhh the "combining samples please don't kick me" mantra I recite......although the panic that you hear if everyone is mic'd is delicious lol. There's an intake a collective breaths and a few mumbled "for fuck....." and then you hear the relief when you drop em again and the collective "ohhhhh" it's a 2 seconds emotional rollercoaster
I usually just wait to see if they leave the extract before saying anything and if I'm doing it I will usually unmute my mic and say "hey I'm going to combine the samples and then drop them again" I get you though.
I usually try and type it while panicking.... Fyi dam convo actually means samp combi
I didn't know how to drop samples, but now I do. Thanks!
I didn't know how to drop them so I really appreciate that, many thanks for this info
Additionally, leave them close to where the pelican lands and DONāT PICK THEM UP until you are actively getting into the bird.
Yeah I had incident where some weasel killed me and took my samples and then when I confront him about it all they kept repeating was that "I need those samples bro". Like no matter how many ways I explained it to him that the samples are shared and only one person needs to pick them up he kept insisting that he would continue killing me because he "needed the samples bro" so I ended up shooting him as we was extracting I couldn't get his teammate because he was already in the pelican but there was grouped up together I joined them. And then I essentially just made sure the pelican was almost countdown and then I just backed out and quit so he didn't get no samples. Moral. of the story is don't play stupid games because they hand out stupid prizes.
I feel you. I had one game where a person kept team killing people for samples and even ended up killing someone when we had no reinforcements left. After he died I grabbed the samples and jumped into a lake before quitting (at this point it was just me and him left and this was on dif 8 with all 5 supers in possession) This was a while ago now and not a common occurance for me at least (most of my experiences with randoms have been very positive and a couple of the randoms I've played with I've become good friends with and like we've added eachother on Facebook and shit... One of them we work in the same industry for different companies and get off work about the same time so it's usually a get online and talk about our days and bitch about work in a way that people that don't work in our industry don't typically fully get you know?) Point is, I get you.
THIS is what I couldn't figure out how to do and yup - got booted for it
If your team drop the biggest bombs on the pelican I always tell my team to combine all samples to one guy so he can go first as the pelican might only take one guy.
I've seen a lot more players leaving samples at extract and giving them all to one diver as of late. Seems like the majority of players are getting the memo
when i play with my friends we all either leave the samples at extract if itās not too far or leave them all with 1 designated person whoās only orders are āif shit hits the fan make sure YOU GET OUTTA HERE ALIVEā
mostly to avoid the glitch where the first person entering the ship causes it to instantly leave.
Itās not a glitch. The pelican can take damage. The more damaged, the fewer the helldivers it can take. When itās on fire and billowing smoke it will only take 1 helldiver. The biggest way it takes damage is from players. I donāt think Iāve seen enemies do enough damage. It usually happens from 500kgs or 380 on extract (when the place is overran).
Wait till the Pelican hits a bile titan or fabricator strider... or one of the dies on top of the Pelican.
This is bs. A pelican with no damage has done this to me.
You may not be experiencing a glitch. If the ship takes too much damage it'll leave without the full squad. Maybe so, maybe no but regardless the Pelican will take damage and can leave some behind if it's burning up.
It really makes sense even if you're not aware of it. When I first started doing it, it was after someone dropped samples and I picked them up and then stopped to ask myself why they dropped them in the first place. Noticed I was standing in the middle of extraction and dropped all the samples I was holding and carried on.
I told someone to drop samples at extraction. Guy didn't know how to drop them, but the guy blew himself up just because he wanted to be a good teammate and leave them there, lol. We made sure he knew how to drop them without dying the next time lol.
Could have been me xD I learned much reading along this sub. Keep up the information flow on unknowing helldivers o\
If it was you, then u had me dying, lol. We both at extraction I typed drop your samples here and we will go to the next point. Then he kinda stands around looking like how ... then all of a sudden, he throws an impact grenade, blows himself to pieces, and sends a message saying ok dropped em let's go.
I'd have typed "there's a better way to do that but sure that works lol" then said "if you're on PC, pres and hold X and you can see a radial wheel, bottom right"
Thank you for sharing how to do this without wasting a Reinforce.
MY LIFE FOR SUPER EARTH!!! o7
As a brief FYI, when dropping the samples, remember the extraction beacon counts a a projectile for physics. If it hits the sample container it will send it flying. Possibly off the map. Ask me how I know.
How do you know?
Lost a set of super samples and 15+ rares and commons when an extract beacon launched the sample container off the map.
It'd behooves to be known that samples can also be stuck under pelican...
Okay but how do I leave the samples without just throwing a grenade to kill myself? not being sarcastic idk how to drop stuff without dying
if youāre on console, hold the ādownā(i think itās down if not one of the directional buttons) button on the D-pad and then rotate to the ādrop samplesā tab and then release it and theyāll drop. You can drop samples, your backpack, and i believe your heavy weapon as well all from that same menu as wellš«”
I am on console, thank you Iāll have to remember this and the leave samples at extraction tip!
It's also super useful if you accidentally grab someone's backpack or heavy weapon in the middle of a hectic fight.
I found what I (mistakenly, apparently) assumed was discarded gear (like it was summoned but the drop pods destroyed so grear is laying on the ground) so I picked it up and used it.Ā Then a teammate came over and stood next to me and melee'd me once. I laughed and promptly dropped the gear. They picked it up and I melee'd them back and ran off. Freedom High Five! Good times. Lol
Once a guy died and i picked up is samples. He shot me in the leg telling me not to take his stuff.....i shot him in the head and told him that its our stuff.
Freedom high five. I like this. Think I'll use it! Lol
It also means you *can* pick up a dead allies dropped weapon and use it until they're back in it.
I've nicked a fellow divers primary before now when I was trying out other guns and found out they sucked. I mean, the dude is coming down with a fresh one so it's free loot at that point.
see? people out here think you need to waste SC to try out bad guns. just play as normal and they'll come to you for free. š
Holy crap! No idea you could do this! You have just improved Democracy!
See I know this but in the heat of battle I swear this info just flyās out of my brain. Canāt drop!
For any pc players that are curious also, itās X on keyboard
Hold down on d pad
If youāre playing on PC hold down X.
Ty!
On keyboard, the default is X, hold it and itāll give you a lil menu
My radial menus are bugged, so grenade suicide is the way to go sometimes
In that case, contact tech support, arm your grenades and give all for super earth. Steady on helldiver. Steady on.
MY FLESH FOR SUPER EAAAAAARTH
There is no other way. Youāve nailed it helldiver.
LOL
Wait you can just drop samples without dying?
yup! if youāre on console hold ādownā on the d-pad and use the right stick to select what u want to drop and you can drop samples, backpacks, and heavy weapons!
Fuck yea!!! That's FREEEEEEDOM!!!
You can drop a lot of things without dying, like pack bags, support weapons, bot or bug bodies, liberty, democracy, sanity,ā¦
Iām waiting for them to release enemies that steal dropped samples and run away with them just to make this process more complicated š
For the love of Managed Democracy delete this comment before the devs see it
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This ever becomes a thing, ima make you clean my ship's toilets after I treat my entire crew and the ship's Helldivers to a spicy motherfuckin democracy Taco Bell
Yippeee!
Itās okay, I had a teammate the other week that we were doing the collect data mission and had to retrieve both SSDs, I got mine to the terminal. The other guy got his SSD and decided to go into a heavy bug base to destroy it with the SSD in his hand and then died and dropped it right in the middle of the base. Also, the other 2 players didnāt seem to have much experience, all my stratagems had run out at that point, so I couldnāt take out the heavy bug base by myself so we failed the mission because he actively took the ssd into the middle of the enemy bade. He couldnāt even leave it on the outskirts. Beyond infuriating
How many legs did this "teammate" have?
Yeah, I really shouldāve shot them for being a traitor and clearly delivering the data to those bugs! Damn those terminid sympathizers!
Sweet Liberty theyāre evolving
People donāt read chat. I was mid mission, and actually a friend was in my game along with 2 randos. Had a real life emergency come up - pet problem - needed immediate attention. I type in the chat, āif Iām dead, donāt Rez me. Only Rez if others are dead. Let me die.ā They Rez me two times and I die, I see this, so I typed a dozen times āSTOP REZING ME - I HAVE PROBLEM - AFK, ONLT REZ EACHOTHER - LET ME DIE AND STAY DEADā Gues what they did? Burned 11 reinforcements on an AFK player who told them specifically Not To in the chat. I was gonna kick the randos of braindeadesness and lack of reading comprehension, but my buddy on mic said āoh I didnāt see that in the chat. Now that you point it out, itās hard to missā I let them stay but randos wound up QUITTING probably because they blamed me for burning our reinforcements and dying. My buddy and I beat the mission with 0 reinforcements, 0 samples, and 10/10 frustrated panic. What did we learn? 1 No one reads the chat 2 people should read the chat
The chat is a mess, It gets filled with in game notification to quickly for it to be a reliable teams comms method. They need a chat window that is just chat and not combined with event notifications.
Also there is so often so much stuff going on that you don't notice the chat stuff. Best way is to use voicechat.
This as well, having four or five lines of text scroll by as you're shooting down a dropship and avoiding a hulk is going to get missed.
Exactly this before people running around if you're all high levels it's very easy for all of you to constantly find places of interest and ping things. I don't delete a simple thank you out of existence within a couple seconds of being on the screen
We need a visual/audio notification when the chat gets input from a person, or just decrease the font size for poi We don't always needs to see SOMEONE DISCOVERED LIGHT NEST, awesome, saw it in the map already.... In fact, we probably don't need to be spammed by chat when someone finds a point of interest, ITS ON THE MAP, just let us know when someone points out an actual objective.
I agree that people should pay more attention to the chat window. I also think that the chat window should get a rework. But I feel there's also a fault on your part. You could've just left the game. This won't end the session for your team. You can reenter the game, by joining your buddy granted the squad isn't full.
Chat is spammed with "\[Player\] discovered a Point of Interest!" and "\[Player\] has died." People learn to ignore it.
On the other hand, there is strong visual difference with that, game communication is blue, player chat message is white
It's still really hard for me to notice.
And it scrolls off screen really fast with the constant other notifications.
Right, but they disappear nearly instantly as the other stuff scrolls them out of the way.
Well tbf, depending on how long you were gone or what difficulty. Unless they changed it in the month Iāve taken a break you canāt decide who to rez if two people are down. Maybe they got massively overrun and randos were under skilled to compensate being a player down.
Nobody ever listens to comms. My two frustrations are picked up samples left at Evac, and needing help for buddy bunkers. I've typed in chat whilst saying over comms on these two issues and people ignore BOTH!
why didn't u just leave?
Clearly wasn't an emergency lol. Dude had time to type more messages.
You don't have a mic?
How do you just resurrect individual people?
You can't lol
Chat is garbage, too much clutter, if you have something important to say, say it on micā¦ use push to talk, I rarely speak unless I have something worthwhile to say or I e met a cool squad.
I think thats your fault alone. When you have a real life incident, you quit the game. It doesnt end it for them. So Why didn't you quit the game?
You can't choose which one you res, it's prob better to just leave the game at that point.
I was confused about that when i first saw it as well A quick "why drop samples?" And "so we dont have to recollect them later" and im doing the same
Yeah I watched a tips and tricks video where they mentioned dropping samples at extraction point. I was like āHOLY SHIT, WHAT?ā Such a simple, eloquent idea. I am seeing it more often in-game now, so thatās a plus.
Maybe use a mic next time? People miss stuff in chat bc it quickly gets filled with other nonsense. I swear, like 9 out of 10 people are afraid to speak in this game... I just don't get it.
Additional note, when dropping samples at extraction, do not drop them in the area the Pelican lands. Had Pelican land on top of samples and no one could pick them up!
Sounds like you need a mic.
This is a great idea why I have I never thought of this. Then no matter what you can get them. Cheers for the idea.
of course! it just makes things a little bit more bearable in difficulty 8 and 9 when you donāt have to worry about running 300m across the map and surviving the walk back to extraction without dying again and losing the samples for good
Yup fully agree with that. I just need to practice doing it now.
Dude.... this is rucked if you don't explain why
What if he didnāt speak English
My fav was last night buddy called in extract and I announced I was going to run 300m to get all the samples there were dropped on death (Two drops). And to hold the extract. Lowest level there boards immediately and dicks over the rest of the squad and I miss extract by like 5 secs. Literally the only one to leave. No samples at all. Why? Just why?
Had this happen to me yesterday but I turned on my mic and told him to drop it and taught him the button. Thankfully a non issue after that. Be cool if they could add the strat as a tip during loading screens for players.
People actually pick up a sample, run it over to the extraction site, run back to where they were to continue the mission, find another sample, run it back to the extraction site, run back to continue the mission... That sounds exhausting.
I usually see people drop the samples at extract when they have the supers, personally I don't do it cause I don't expect to die much and if I do die i'm most likely gonna be running back to get my gear anyway so i'll be able to grab the samples as well. Hell if i'm killed across the map from my team it's probably cause I was trying to do an objective or interest point there that i'm gonna go back and do anyway so I would've had to cross the map anyway.
Well this happened to me, but the one did that was the host. I got 6 super samples, almost 20 rare and common. I drop it at extraction point and message them, then leave for obj. Everything went fine, itās time we called down the extract. We got swarmed with bots soon after that, got pinned down but not too bad. This Buffoon of a host, picked up those samples while we were all busy, ran outside of the extraction perimeter to push them bots, got flushed out by a couple of hulks and a bunch of devas, berserkers,ā¦ all by himself. I didnāt realize he got the samples until he died and those samples subtraction appear on screen. I called him down, run over there in hope that I can find a way to retreat them, saw the horde and knew it was over. We ended up extract with 1 or 2 rare samples that someone still holding onā¦ I was so disappointed I couldnāt even get madā¦
You can drop samples? How?
I've literally only kicked 1 person and I'd kick that guy...
Had a dude do this once. Warned him over and over and over but I wasn't the host and couldn't kick him, so I shot his ass and left š¤· 100% worth the court-martial
I donāt often pick up samples But when I do I run across the map then die
You can drop samples...... Without dying.....?
Ha, I donāt think twice about kicking people like that. Just for reference Iām playing Helldive where there are a lot of lvl 70+ people who have everything and should know by now. When I play lower difficulties I am much more understanding. Either way, I recommend just hopping on the mic and telling them what youād like to happen. 19 in 20 times they acquiesce
youd be surprised died and had a guy with a quasar pick up my autocannon backpack from me, figured he was doin it to give it to me later. Asked in chat and in voice to hand it back cause mine was on cooldown and he wasnt interested in buddy reloading since he was running off The urge to kill was huge but luckily he kept dying and raged quit. Idk why but out of all things that has bothered me the most Dude was like lvl 50
Iām not surprised at all, how many of those guys do you run into? Iāve played a lot of hours and have met a handful of them. Really think about how many games youāve played and how many people did this
Honeslty not much, thats why it was so surprising
If you're going to kick someone with samples, you have to kill them first otherwise the samples will disappear with them.
I agree, this happened on a hell dive mission too lmao. if itās lower level missions itās whatever, but on helldive where itās already really challenging why make more work for us down the line? extracting with no samples is pointless for most people whoāve been playing for awhile so why make it harder by having to fight all the way back to where they were last dropped you know?
Not everyone knows english...just saying....yall complain about Sony banning certain countries then treat them shitty cuz they don't follow your concepts...lol
I've had a guy do the same. We grabbed the super samples near extraction and were passing through extraction to the main objective, and we dropped them on extract. Some level 30 joins and runs around collecting samples on his lonesome, and I kept an eye on him on the map. Saw him beeline for extraction, pick up the super samples and then head away from extraction. Kicked him immediately. At 30 you should know this. Plus he died 3 times in the first 5 minutes. No way am I running halfway across map to retrieve those samples.
Did you use your microphone? Did you ask if the player even speaks English?Ā I play this game every once in a while to blow off steam. You can't realistically expect everyone to know all these tips/tricks.
Redditors assume EVERYONE is on social media. Tricks like this may not be known by many players, not to mention that english isn't the only language.
Been hearing a disturbing amount of stories of players that apparently do this on purpose just to mess with other players. Even worse is that they like to jump in holes or deep water to prevent anyone from being able to get them.
I'm maxed sampled and still collect and drop at extraction. I'm on PS5 I wish there was a way to save that message and put it in chat.
Did you also tell him over the mic? I won't notice texts most of the time due to a poorly placed text box but I always have my comms on.
He's against democracy and freedom. Chances are he's either a kid or someone who doesn't read the chat.
Always remember drop super samples at the extraction and subsequent samples that you may have picked up no one wants to run all the way across the map into a swarm of bugs or robots just to get the samples You should have just left at the extraction Stop being greedy people If I come across any players that do this I'm kicking you out
Wow this is a big brain strat I was unaware of
This is why I do not pick up samples at all. I know Iām that guy that if thereās even a single objective thatās not complete Iām not even attempting to extract until itās done. I donāt care where the pelican is.
Then there's me, clearing the whole map, grabbing over 30 samples while the team cleared the OBJs, as the ship lands they kick me. Fuckin assholes. I'll be salty about that one for a while.
TIL you can drop samples. Would have been helpful the other day when I failed to make it to extraction because I went back for ten samples
I got kicked once for picking up samples at the extract site. I picked it up just to combine them with mine and then would drop it so thereās only one container to pick up. Before I could let them know my intent, I got the olā boot.
I had a teammate go off by themselves and mysteriously die - thought it was odd as they had been ripping it up and I hadnāt seen any enemies that way or heard any fighting at the time. A bit later I noticed there were still samples where they died so I walked halfway across the map to get get them only to find they were down one of those bottomless boreholesā¦ My man had single handedly cleared half the map, and he died by falling in a hole.
So, there are achievements only unlocked by actually being the one carrying the 15 common/rare samples onto the ship.
The only time I grab extraction samples is if I'm consolidating the bundles. Easier to grab 1 in a hurry than 4+
Same
They should really add how to drop stuff into the tutorial.
Eh, I do leave them if others are doing it, but I hate not knowing how many samples are left on the map.
Bro, I straight up kill guys in my squad at extract for no reason, and I donāt feel bad - so thereās no reason for you to feel bad at all. Weāre all in this together.
The fact I can't tell if you're joking or not only makes your comment more menacing š
I saw a guy doing that weeks ago. Diddnt clue in. Ran over and gathered all the dropped samples. Died. And well you know the rest.
Remember Not everyone has the same mindset Not everyone understands your plan. To many players won't communicate what their doing, and things fall apart. Sounds like he was trying to make sure they weren't lost. Sounds like he didn't understand why you left them.
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Wut
I was playing host last night. Medium level with rare samples and I had 8-10 of them. We complete the (very easy) objectives and I take a little detour before going to extract. One player bee-lined it over before the last objective was complete and calls extract in when Iām a good 2-1/2 min run away. They board the pelican without me with like 2 samples so I kick the lot of them. No one gets samples, but only I get mission complete rewards.
I told a teammate to leave them there _beforehand_, they still grabbed them, then ended up dying inside a boulder somehow so nobody could grab them.
/impending downvotes If you're playing with random people, this will always be a risk. Not everyone is on voice chat Not everyone reads regular chat Not everyone *can* read chat Not everyone is on Reddit picking up tips and tricks It sucks, I feel you, it happens a lot, but unless they're intentionally trying to die...
Saw a blueberry do that after typing and voicing it. Everyone else was on board. He runs from the obj ALL THE EAY BACK to extract PICKS THEM UP after staring at them for 30secs come BACK to the obj we were already running back to extra t from . Goes BEHIND the enemy and dies. I never left a match so fast.
Some people donāt know how to drop things. Remember how long the training is. Chill out. If they didnāt leave them underwater and you didnāt go back for them? Thatās on you.
I feel like some people just donāt see the text chat, because I get ignored when playing with randoms
One further tip to this. Sometimes, extraction is going to be BOILING hot and a few seconds might mean the difference between success and painful, agonizing FAILURE. Instead of everyone dropping sample vials all over the extraction, clean that shit up. Grab the vials so that they're all in your inventory, and then drop ONE in a place where it's easy to find, not crowded with support weapons, supply drops or other debris, and where it's easily visible. Then, when the Pelican comes in and 4 Hulks, 2 Factory Striders, and Alexus himself is coming after you, screaming for your blood and your balance, you grab the samples, leap onto the ramp, and laugh all the way to the upgrade station.
This is such a great strategy!! I will use it myself
Some people ignore chat box, but this is a good strategy I see used often. Thankfully I havenāt seen anyone pick them up yet, you got paired with someone without common sense.
I do the same thing I leave them there so we donāt loose them
I kick people all the time for doing stupid shit on helldive. Redditors will whine about "toxic players" kicking people all the time but will never admit that some people are bad or stupid enough to warrant it.
Maybe an unpopular opinion, and also maybe because my samples have been maxed for a hot min. But it's really not that big of a deal. Definitely not worth kicking someone over.
No I agree with you. Needless rage, seems to me.
Agreed. Play Frends Only, so you're all on the same page. "Frend, let's not make this difficult."
This happens on my lvl7+ missions more than it should. Do people have chat off or smth? I will literally call the player out in all caps and it's like they are purposely ignoring me. It makes me irrationally angry.
i feel you lol
Iāve found the best tactic is to not die.
Most people don't know how to drop samples plus if I had some random dude bossing me around over samples when I'm just tryna have fun and play the game I'd probably just ignore them tbh. If you wanna be that anal about things play private with friends You had every right to kick them since you were host but you expect too much from randoms lol dick move