If I remember correctly Drake was going to use the beat as Kanye promised him it but out of spite Kanye used it instead and adding salt to the wound went on to say the amazing lyrics we know today.
It’s almost better the way it is, I will never forget the first time I listened to it. Unironically a once in a lifetime experience
Also I like to imagine drake hearing it for the first time
Yeoo take it back i remember listening to that in junior year and was beyond upset and frustrated with the abomination he made it like one minute in.
After that I was over Logic plus i also grew up lol
My favorite part about Take It Back is in the hardnock TV interview his Producer 6ix did during the album run for Everybody, even 6ix was like “ I made this beat on some ya know…let’s go shit but Bobby……gave it a message” shit had me fucking DEAD
Most recently? I thought the beat for U My Everything was amazing. If it wasn't used for a humor track it would have banged all summer.
Knowing audiences now it will still probably bang all summer tho..
Most of Logics discography post the first few albums. Christ I've heard him say the same thing with the same (albeit dope) flow so many damn times.. his verses on Homocide wasted an entire Em feature
Logic is a conundrum. Sonically never misses, seemingly intelligent and well-read, super shallow lyrics. He’s always claiming the lines are too complex for people to catch but I’m still waiting for a single bar to do me like “calm Batman/com-batman”
Timbo, who already has pretty futuristic sounding beats, went 1,000 years into the future for that album. I remember getting the instrumentals to the album and being surprised by the full versions of “Versus” and “Beach Is Better”
💯 they all fell flat which is a shame given he had Timbaland for the whole album and I love the beats and production. My wife and I were pumped to listen to it and driving to see family and I remember the sideways looks we were giving each other as we were listening “what the fuck is Jay doing?” We gave it another listen to be sure before passing total judgment
The O Lets Do It beat is legendary and got butchered twice, the remix was abhorrent with the horrible Diddy verse and one of the laziest Ross verses put on wax
D12 - Obie Trice (this song should've been wayyyyy
longer instead of just 30 seconds, Obie flowed so fucking well I wish it was a full 3-4 minute song)
Royce da 5'9 - D-Elite Part 1 (Same as the last one just I'm glad this one got up to a minute and a half)
Eminem - Big Weenie
Eminem - Normal
I always thought "Dollar and a Dream III" was an epic beat but J Cole's verses on there were ehhhh or mediocre 😂
I'll let you feel like you da shit but boy you can't outfart me
😑 like cmon bruh
Literally not a single person would be talking about the MCs from group home today if it weren’t for premiers production. They’re just not good rappers
The beat is iconic and the real ones remember this from the GTA 4 soundtrack. What I will say is that I think that the verses are decent and good at best.
I've heard worse honestly.
KRS-One Attacks off Return of the Boom Bap, don't get me wrong it's a good instrumental intro type track, but the beat is dope and it's absolutely begging for a verse that never comes :(
Not wasted cause the song is dope the way it is but I wish Kanye finished 30 Hours!!! I absolutely love that song & I love it's unfinished vibe too but everytime I play it I just wish it had more
Three beats come to mind:
Supastition - The Intro on his album Chain Letters
Great beat. Could have been a great song but he wasted it for some cheap ad libs on an intro.
Hieroglyphics - On their album 3rd Eye Vision there is a track called „A-Plus“. I don‘t want to say wasted because A-Plus delivers but they should have used this beat for a full length song with more members because in my opinion that beat is insane!
Hieroglyphics - „Prelude“ on their album „Full Circle“. Another great song and Pep Love is really great on the track but this beat is way to good for just some intro teaser. Should have been a full length track
Not even hip hop but I think 2 of the most wasted instrumentals in the world wound up going to pop princesses when talented rappers could have absolutely torn them up.
4 Minutes - Madonna and Justin Timberlake (Timbaland production!)
And Britney's version of My Prerogative is one of the hardest beats going, honestly feel as though someone like 50 would have bodied it.
Famous by Kanye West is such a disappointment. That beat/production is fire, even his flow over the beat is pretty good, but the lyrics are so lame, so dated (the opposite of timeless), and pointless.
Over The Top with Drake & Smiley. Such a weird combo but the beat was so hard. I don't think it was wasted, but there could've been a better duo on the track.
I'm so sad that Big Hit got the [Drug Czar ](https://youtu.be/TrW4F9_qDUA) beat from Alc. It's so good. I respect Hit Boy putting his pops on, but the dated '90's flow and nonsensical analogies just fall flat on it. It's a decent song, but sheesh, that beat deserves top tier grimy flow.
Boldy would skate over that beat like glacial waters flowing down from the alps.
A few days ago, I reintroduced myself to Eminem’s catalog. And honestly, post The Eminem Show, a lot went to waste, BUT I specifically remember hearing this one song with a vocal sample from the song “Cry Little Sister”, the part that says “thou shall not fall”.
I remember thinking what a waste of a sample, this song sucks. And then on top of that, he doesn’t utilize the sample enough. Total waste.
Not quite what you were looking for but the beat could have been dope. And the sample was wasted.
The only song everyone knows from jaden smith, should have given that shit to someone else. The crazy part is with that one sentence, everyone knows EXACTLY what song I’m referring to.
Lupe did a freestyle on the sicko mode beat. Not only is it a way better song, it's catchy and turns garbage into gold, which in Lupes case is not the alchemical point of this math. It was wasted before he fixed it.
Big Pun - _My Dick_ (beat is reminiscent of _Sky’s The Limit_ by Biggie, and Pun & Tony decided to talk about their dicks for the whole song 🤦♂️)
Group Home - _Suspended In Time_ (and while we’re at it, let’s just throw the whole _Livin’ Proof_ album in there as well)
And if you’re looking for a newer example from me:
Armani Caesar - _Diana (feat. Kodak Black)_ (Armani has quite a mediocre verse but it’s Kodak’s verse that always makes me hit skip once it comes on lol)
Cops Shot the Kid - Nas (Nas was fine on this song but the “Cops Shot the Kid” repeating through the verse was 100% the wrong choice, it would have been a classic song if they muted it for the verses and left it on the chorus)
Ain’t nothin changed. A primo beat. The song is really good in my opinion, but it’s one of my favorite beats all time. Wasted is a stretch for sure but it had even more potential from the beat alone
Thought you meant the loyle carner track for a sec, and was a) surprised that that was a premier beat, and b) that you thought loyle carner butchered it. I googled it and it's the blaq poet track, right?
The beat used on the last part of Bad Guy on MMLP2. Not that the rapping over it was bad or anything, just that it went hard enough that Em should have made an entire song out of it.
I’ll preface this by saying that I like RA, but the rapid fire spit he did on his verse for ‘Holla-Loo-Yuh’ was *not* the right fit for that beat. Tech nailed it though.
"Money aint no issue" samples Guilty Gear and has a godly intro but it's ruined by meek mill screaming on the track and future mumbling as usual. Couldn't even keep my attention long enough to get to fabulous's part.
That's the kinda beat where I wish people still did mixtapes where samples don't need to get cleared, because that beat is BEGGING for a rapper to body it.
We Cry Together - Kendrick Lamar & Taylour Paige.
It’s not so much that it’s a bad song. It makes sense in the context of the Mr. Morale album. Like a scene out of a Broadway play. But it has limited replay value for me. Alchemist cooked on that beat
Tru York Intro (Tru Life ft. Jay-Z)
Beat was so hard and deserved at least two more verses from Hov but he did go hard at Jimmy and Cam on the first part of the song
When I first heard the intro to Lord Knows, I thought it was gonna be a classic. Then Drake started rapping about going through his girl’s phone over this majestic Just Blaze beat
Still can't believe Lupe didn't rap on the intro of Food & Liquor
Yeah I didn’t really get what he was going for there
That beat always reminded me of the Aquatic theme from the old school Donkey Kong game. I love it.
Scoop di di poop
Lift yourself is up there with one of my favorite Kanye beats, and I love a lot of his production
If I remember correctly Drake was going to use the beat as Kanye promised him it but out of spite Kanye used it instead and adding salt to the wound went on to say the amazing lyrics we know today.
Literally first thing I thought of lol
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Not wasted, Lift Yourself is one of the best songs ever
Lyrics go over too many people’s heads
It’s almost better the way it is, I will never forget the first time I listened to it. Unironically a once in a lifetime experience Also I like to imagine drake hearing it for the first time
Take it back - Logic Peace Flygod - Westside Gunn
logic has some really fire production and album covers, shame he phoned it in a while ago on the rapping side
Yeoo take it back i remember listening to that in junior year and was beyond upset and frustrated with the abomination he made it like one minute in. After that I was over Logic plus i also grew up lol
My favorite part about Take It Back is in the hardnock TV interview his Producer 6ix did during the album run for Everybody, even 6ix was like “ I made this beat on some ya know…let’s go shit but Bobby……gave it a message” shit had me fucking DEAD
breakfast for blockhead
Most recently? I thought the beat for U My Everything was amazing. If it wasn't used for a humor track it would have banged all summer. Knowing audiences now it will still probably bang all summer tho..
That sample (not the BBL Drizzy part) is so hard to
Yeah I'm excluding it because it's obvious it was tacked onto the verse after the track was made at his request lol
Most of Logics discography post the first few albums. Christ I've heard him say the same thing with the same (albeit dope) flow so many damn times.. his verses on Homocide wasted an entire Em feature
Logic is a conundrum. Sonically never misses, seemingly intelligent and well-read, super shallow lyrics. He’s always claiming the lines are too complex for people to catch but I’m still waiting for a single bar to do me like “calm Batman/com-batman”
It’s “combat, man” for the latter
I think you still haven't gotten the combat man line.
lol enlighten me
You fucked up
Yup. He's been zoned in on the same tone of voice and flow for a while now. I want another "Nikki" style song.
Half the shit from that Yandhi leak man goddamn
Tom Ford - Jay Z. Beat and Production by Timbaland and Jay wasted it on a lazy flow and god awful hook. If you can call it that.
Add in most of MCHG songs tbh.. Jay really phoned in those verses. First time I thought yeah.. can tell he don't write down his rhymes
Timbo, who already has pretty futuristic sounding beats, went 1,000 years into the future for that album. I remember getting the instrumentals to the album and being surprised by the full versions of “Versus” and “Beach Is Better”
There is a full version of beach is better? I need to hear that. That’s the song I feel was wasted cuz that beat was slappin
💯 they all fell flat which is a shame given he had Timbaland for the whole album and I love the beats and production. My wife and I were pumped to listen to it and driving to see family and I remember the sideways looks we were giving each other as we were listening “what the fuck is Jay doing?” We gave it another listen to be sure before passing total judgment
So true. The beat is insane.
I’d add Blueprint 2. Verses were finebut that “mojo back baby oooh behave” is some cringe shit, especially over the Good The Bad & The Ugly
I love the verses but that hook is horrendous
He was probably a big Austin Powers in Goldmember fan.
Bad song but I’d be lying if I didn’t admit to rapping the hook every time I put my suit on
Hands down. I have probably 4 remixes of that beat on my phone and not the original.
I never liked this song, but if I’m being honest the beat falls just as flat for me as the rest of it. It’s just an unexceptional track.
More or Less by Shyne. Kanye composed that beat.
[Have you heard Action Bronson's version?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIAxfVwXEKs&)
Now that I know, that totally makes sense. Always loved that track.
Intro on the chronic Intro on m.o.p to the death The beat at the beginning of the natural born killaz video
9/10 of the songs Playboi carti raps on. my god
Especially Location due to the fact that he does more adlibing than rapping.
10/10 i'd argue.
I’m on the top of the buildin Im on the top of the buildin I’m on the top of the buildin
Whole livin’ proof album
You buggin, production is Insane but the rapping goes hard as well
Nah, they weren’t good mc but phenomenal production caused that whole thing somehow bangs
Damn. You must be old. Haven’t heard that in like 30 years lol
\^ Winner
The O Lets Do It beat is legendary and got butchered twice, the remix was abhorrent with the horrible Diddy verse and one of the laziest Ross verses put on wax
Lil Wayne ended up killing it though
Locked my ceo up, but im the ceo FUCK
Facts
Father stretch my hands part 1
Metro Boomin should have thrown hands as soon as he heard “asshole”.
Kanye sold but Kid Cudi was perfect on that beat so not really
Nicki gave Foxy Brown the best alley oop and she massively dropped the ball on "Coco Chanel"
Pepe lore beat by trippie lol
Logic yapping over the Take It Back beat. 6ix was cooking some good beats that logic just talked over
Bbl drizzy
This may be unpopular, but Erykah Badu used the ‘Xxplosive’ Beat better on “Bag lady”, than the rappers did.
Super facts
Appreciate that you said "the rappers" and left Nate Dogg out - because he killed that shit as always.
This!
I LOVE that song! Especially the slower version on Mama’s Gun
D12 - Obie Trice (this song should've been wayyyyy longer instead of just 30 seconds, Obie flowed so fucking well I wish it was a full 3-4 minute song) Royce da 5'9 - D-Elite Part 1 (Same as the last one just I'm glad this one got up to a minute and a half) Eminem - Big Weenie Eminem - Normal
Big Weenie beat is pretty hard if you forget the dumb lyrics 😅
Floor 13 by MGK
I always thought "Dollar and a Dream III" was an epic beat but J Cole's verses on there were ehhhh or mediocre 😂 I'll let you feel like you da shit but boy you can't outfart me 😑 like cmon bruh
That's the one with the KH2 sample? Yeah J. Cole should have went CRAZY on that song the intro is superb.
Yes that one. I'm sayin bro, that intro hooks you right in!
Supa star- Group Home
Every single Group Home beat tbh lol
Bad take
Literally not a single person would be talking about the MCs from group home today if it weren’t for premiers production. They’re just not good rappers
My favorite line from Supa Star. I wasn't living rich and I also wasn't poor I try to appreciate but I deserve more
I didn’t expect this song to be here at all lol
The beat is iconic and the real ones remember this from the GTA 4 soundtrack. What I will say is that I think that the verses are decent and good at best. I've heard worse honestly.
KRS-One Attacks off Return of the Boom Bap, don't get me wrong it's a good instrumental intro type track, but the beat is dope and it's absolutely begging for a verse that never comes :(
It's a DJ track, that's why. It was very common in that era.
Yeah I know, it's just that beat in particular would have been so good with KRS doing a verse on it
Forever young
Not wasted cause the song is dope the way it is but I wish Kanye finished 30 Hours!!! I absolutely love that song & I love it's unfinished vibe too but everytime I play it I just wish it had more
Soulja Boy - Kingpin Beezy
Kingpin skinny pimp would’ve been pissed off he ever heard that BS
LL Cool J : olschool newschool. Great beat by Ryan Leslie and as an LL appreciator I’m sorry to say he dropped the ball in this one.
[blakjak - ride and swerve](https://youtu.be/Tp_G2Xepl7A?si=-78gfs2qPhdchVe0)
Three beats come to mind: Supastition - The Intro on his album Chain Letters Great beat. Could have been a great song but he wasted it for some cheap ad libs on an intro. Hieroglyphics - On their album 3rd Eye Vision there is a track called „A-Plus“. I don‘t want to say wasted because A-Plus delivers but they should have used this beat for a full length song with more members because in my opinion that beat is insane! Hieroglyphics - „Prelude“ on their album „Full Circle“. Another great song and Pep Love is really great on the track but this beat is way to good for just some intro teaser. Should have been a full length track
The intros on Busta Rhymes first two albums. Just talking over them. Fuck, they could've been such dope songs
Speakin of Bussa Bus..."Pardon My Ways."
Not even hip hop but I think 2 of the most wasted instrumentals in the world wound up going to pop princesses when talented rappers could have absolutely torn them up. 4 Minutes - Madonna and Justin Timberlake (Timbaland production!) And Britney's version of My Prerogative is one of the hardest beats going, honestly feel as though someone like 50 would have bodied it.
The Group Home discography
UOENO. One of the hardest beats of all time completely overshadowed by rick ross straight up confessing to rape
The TDE version kinda makes up for it
Jadakiss - Kiss Of Death Intro Deserved a verse
She Will by Drake and Wayne. Beat goes hard but lyrics do NOT match with the tone of the song.
Still a fire song
I was waiting for some of those S class bars from Wayne or a fire Drake feature that never came
Madvillain - Sickfit
Also Eye. The singing is good but that beat is so good, would've been good to hear Doom over it.
If I ain’t mistaken doom thought the beat was so good he didn’t want to rap on it
Family Matters I said it
I've been hoping for a version of "they not like us" that isn't a diss track.
You know, I also agree. I always kinda hated how dated diss tracks can end up sounding
Famous by Kanye West is such a disappointment. That beat/production is fire, even his flow over the beat is pretty good, but the lyrics are so lame, so dated (the opposite of timeless), and pointless.
Some of those Neptunes beats for Nore…Grimey and Nothin mainly.
Droppin Science for me...sacrilegious i know!
No Bop - SGPWES, randomly showed up on my YouTube, beat crazy dude ass tho. 6 Mile show, they were going stupid then just stopped
Cypress Hill (Black Sunday) - 'Interlude' (Minus the sirens)
There's a few instrumental clips in between songs on the first Psycho Realm album that would have made dope songs.
Not a wasted, but i did like to listen to MF DOOM rap on Sickfit
Lookin from the new nxworries album
Over The Top with Drake & Smiley. Such a weird combo but the beat was so hard. I don't think it was wasted, but there could've been a better duo on the track.
Wale’s trailer for his The Gifted album. That beat was so dope, I believe it would’ve been his best song had he use that beat for the album
J Cole - Mo Money (interlude) Definitely deserved to be a full song.
I'm so sad that Big Hit got the [Drug Czar ](https://youtu.be/TrW4F9_qDUA) beat from Alc. It's so good. I respect Hit Boy putting his pops on, but the dated '90's flow and nonsensical analogies just fall flat on it. It's a decent song, but sheesh, that beat deserves top tier grimy flow. Boldy would skate over that beat like glacial waters flowing down from the alps.
Jonwayne - The Single
logic has insane beats on most of his projects, but his performance is extremely inconsistent
Seeing Green - Nicki Minaj. Lil Wayne verse good but I wish he just spit for 5 mins instead. I just skip it after his verse
Ironically the only Nicki Minaj verse i was impressed with
I do like Cash In, Cash Out - Pharell Williams but like most 21 Savage songs I always think of what other artists could've done with that beat.
Gang starr - 92 Interlude
That gumbo skit instrumental off MM FOOD.
A few days ago, I reintroduced myself to Eminem’s catalog. And honestly, post The Eminem Show, a lot went to waste, BUT I specifically remember hearing this one song with a vocal sample from the song “Cry Little Sister”, the part that says “thou shall not fall”. I remember thinking what a waste of a sample, this song sucks. And then on top of that, he doesn’t utilize the sample enough. Total waste. Not quite what you were looking for but the beat could have been dope. And the sample was wasted.
Anything Smiley has rapped over
Pepe lit by Trippie redd. It actually makes me angry.
ZEZE
ZEZE
Almost any trippie red song. Dude gets some of the hardest beats known to man and will rap the same slurred autotuned word for like 8 bars
The only song everyone knows from jaden smith, should have given that shit to someone else. The crazy part is with that one sentence, everyone knows EXACTLY what song I’m referring to.
Some songs on Hard to Earn by Gang Start
Wym Guru was perfect for Premo beats
Buckshot Lefonque - Breakfast at Denny's
Limp Bizkit method man
Curren$y Intro to Saturday Night Car Tunes
Puffy should go to jail for rapping over beats as well as all that other stuff. My childhood was littered with this flow desecrating sampled beats.
“Fukumean” was an elite beat wasted on Gunna
Who else could've flowed on that beat in your opinion.
I would’ve liked to hear J.Cole on it…Freddie Gibbs…Earl Sweatshirt
Tony Yayo Drama Setter. Em should definitely have had a verse.
Pause for Porno off of 2001
The wrath of the math intro where Jeru just talks over that amazing miles Davis sample
Clams Casino - I'm god
Royce on C Delores. Greatest rap beat of all time IMO and bro flexed his chops instead of attempting to go toe to toe with the OG
Playboi Carti - Location
He absolutely wasted that glorious beat
[Wiz Khalifa - King of Everything](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d0cm_hcQes)
Bang! - Conway The Machine & Eminem More so on Ems part.
Miss The Rage is such a fire beat but they just didn't hit the vocals right on it. The Mario Judah version was better than the real one
Lupe did a freestyle on the sicko mode beat. Not only is it a way better song, it's catchy and turns garbage into gold, which in Lupes case is not the alchemical point of this math. It was wasted before he fixed it.
Playboi Carti - Imperius
Anything made by playboy carti
Poopity scoop
Big Pun - _My Dick_ (beat is reminiscent of _Sky’s The Limit_ by Biggie, and Pun & Tony decided to talk about their dicks for the whole song 🤦♂️) Group Home - _Suspended In Time_ (and while we’re at it, let’s just throw the whole _Livin’ Proof_ album in there as well) And if you’re looking for a newer example from me: Armani Caesar - _Diana (feat. Kodak Black)_ (Armani has quite a mediocre verse but it’s Kodak’s verse that always makes me hit skip once it comes on lol)
Cops Shot the Kid - Nas (Nas was fine on this song but the “Cops Shot the Kid” repeating through the verse was 100% the wrong choice, it would have been a classic song if they muted it for the verses and left it on the chorus)
Lil Wayne' "I Feel Like Dying" was a banger that could've been transcendent in the right story tellers hands.
Pump it up - Joe budden Could have been so much better
The War Report intro by CNN. It was a hard boom-bap intro when it was starting to fall out of style. Nore and Capone just talked over it.
Ain’t nothin changed. A primo beat. The song is really good in my opinion, but it’s one of my favorite beats all time. Wasted is a stretch for sure but it had even more potential from the beat alone
Thought you meant the loyle carner track for a sec, and was a) surprised that that was a premier beat, and b) that you thought loyle carner butchered it. I googled it and it's the blaq poet track, right?
Yeah it’s blaq poet. I don’t think it’s butchered by any means, it’s a good song, just think the beat is one of my favorites ever
The beat used on the last part of Bad Guy on MMLP2. Not that the rapping over it was bad or anything, just that it went hard enough that Em should have made an entire song out of it.
“Sickfit” on Madvillainy. I was wanting to hear DOOMs vocals so badly on that.
I’ll preface this by saying that I like RA, but the rapid fire spit he did on his verse for ‘Holla-Loo-Yuh’ was *not* the right fit for that beat. Tech nailed it though.
Freshman Freestyle with Desiigner, Anderson paak and lil dicky… Jk I actually love it. It’s one of those it’s so bad it’s good kinda situations
Black Metaphor made one of my favorite beats ever and then gave it to French Montana. Absolute waste of the Sanctuary sample.
"Money aint no issue" samples Guilty Gear and has a godly intro but it's ruined by meek mill screaming on the track and future mumbling as usual. Couldn't even keep my attention long enough to get to fabulous's part. That's the kinda beat where I wish people still did mixtapes where samples don't need to get cleared, because that beat is BEGGING for a rapper to body it.
Mumble rapper vs lyricist by Vin Jay. When I say that beat hits I mean that. It's a shame it had to be used with little to no perspective.
Every kodak black song
We Cry Together - Kendrick Lamar & Taylour Paige. It’s not so much that it’s a bad song. It makes sense in the context of the Mr. Morale album. Like a scene out of a Broadway play. But it has limited replay value for me. Alchemist cooked on that beat
Tupac “Me Against the World” intro
Keep Running Cam’ron Fabolous
Tru York Intro (Tru Life ft. Jay-Z) Beat was so hard and deserved at least two more verses from Hov but he did go hard at Jimmy and Cam on the first part of the song
Did It Before - Lil Wayne
When I first heard the intro to Lord Knows, I thought it was gonna be a classic. Then Drake started rapping about going through his girl’s phone over this majestic Just Blaze beat
Anything with 21 savage on it
Also Beach is Better - Jay-z.. way too short
Nahmeanuheard - Noreaga the song is still good but Noreaga's verses just dont do anything for me
Nicki Minaj anaconda. Sad, could’ve been a great track for someone else
Explosive
The end of lift off
Majority of Kanye songs post life of pablo
Tru Life (Intro) - Jay Z Fig Leaf Bi Carbonate - MF DOOM?
Beach is Better by Jay-Z should've been a full song