Also, because a lot of the companies behind this are your standard tech start-up ventures which inherently have no plan for nor any interest in the future, and exist to rapidly raise capital, achieve maximum exposure, and get out before the whole deck of cards comes crashing down.
Potential regulation five years down the road is completely irrelevant.
"Sustainable" is not a real word, in their vocabulary.
I study addiction (mostly substance addiction though) and think about this way too much, and I honestly think sports betting commercials are worse than cigarette commercials ever were.
It's also super easy for kids to get accounts on gambling apps now, even with the apps' flaky verification systems.
The fact that it's so new is part of what scares me, especially because gambling companies seemed to have gotten ahead of it. Something like beer has been well-integrated into Canadian society for literally hundreds of years. Kids don't learn about beer from commercials, they already know it exists from their family or friends *before* they start paying any attention to beer commercials. If they learn anything from ads, it's brand preference.
Sports betting is almost a reverse. It's only blown up in the past few years, and until now, there was a lot of people who barely knew it existed, or didn't care enough to find out how to do it. Now their ads make the first impression. If you're a hockey fan, it's literally unavoidable to watch them, plus intermission segments about where to put your money. It doesn't just tell kids sports betting exists, but tells them exactly where to go and what to bet on. It's insidious.
Add on all these ads make it seem like they will give you free money to use the app, like it's almost impossible to lose your money. And small bets will give you huge yields. I haven't dug too deep into the fine print but it seems like all the good shit is playing with monopoly money, but the losses are yours.
I gamble on sports. I did it before the massive craze began. I spend about $100 a month.
I'm worried about all the ads, I hate having kids talking betting lines. It's crap.
The way the " free money" works is, they will match whatever you put in up to a certain amount but over a minimum. Usually $20. The free money is gambled the same way your money is. However, you can't withdraw it the same way, each book has different rules. But it's totally designed as a loss leader of sorts.
You sign up, you put in $20 you get another $20. You now have $40. Some of the apps will give you an insane probability on a near sure thing. Something stupid easyike Stuart Skinner to get 5 saves the first period or something idiotic like that. The point is to give you a dopamine hit early.
Another tactic is by doubling your money, they increase the probability you will diversify that money and you will win some of those bets and gain some confidence. By getting another dopamine hit.
No first time gambler is going to hit it big, but they don't know that. Then they discover parlays. These are bets placed on multiple events having to happen in order to win. Stacking multiple events increases the potential winnings. You can do parlays on pretty much anything depending on the event. For the Superbowl it's Gatorade colors and coin tosses. For hockey it's puck lines, goal lines uhhhm also things like McDavid will score twice + drai to get 1 point + nurse to block 3 shots + Skinner to get a shut out. Will pay put 3 - 7 x your initial bet. Each of those things COULD happen, they even sound probable in the right mindset. But as we all know the house always wins.
My gambling is like playing the lottery, I participate in those insane parlays that won't ever pay off.....probably. but if it ever did my wagers would earn me between 2500- $10,000. The most insane one I had this year was my dream scenario, McDavid to win the Art Ross, McDavid to win the Rocket Richard, McDavid to get at least 50, McDavid to win the Conn Smythe, the oilers to win over 50 games, the oilers to win the cup, McDavid to lead playoffs in goals. $5 bet - $5000 payout iirc. But it didn't hit of course lol.
Good opportunity to point out that I can more than afford to do this, I do not encourage participating in sport gambling if you have an addictive personality. I don't recommend ever starting with more than $10 and if you do start up ever. Utilize the apps security features to help protect yourself. Mine for example will not allow more than $100 a month in deposits. The ads make it seem like you're missing out and your pile of money is right here waiting, just get your phone out. There is no pile of money waiting. None, it's like a Vegas casino floor, you aren't there to win. Just have fun.
I apologize for rambling. You didn't even say you wanted an education in the topic, just that you didn know.
I wonder what will happen in the eventual case that some 17 year old loses thousands of dollars then claims they aren't liable because they weren't legally gambling. No idea which way that goes.
Exactly. It's especially risky for recovering gambling addicts, too, who haven't had to deal with this shit until the past few years. It's much easier to relapse when all you have to do is download an app, especially when you're being egged on for half of every commercial break.
The US tobacco industry marketed candy cigarettes when I was a kid. They made starter tobacco products like Hawken smokeless and Happy Days mint smokeless marketed at teenagers. That’s how I started. Big tobacco used to groom consumers from age 4. I know. I was a victim of these practices. Tobacco free 22 years now.
That's what makes it such an interesting topic to me. Personally, I don't gamble because I like my money, but I can see the allure in going to a casino, taking a chance, having fun, and blowing off some steam if you have the money to spare. However, with sports betting, I can see how it would immediately make watching sports more interesting than it was before. Because of that, I can see how the sports you watched while betting will suddenly become much less interesting if you stop. It seems like a powerful loop. At least with cigs, I could point to smelling like crap, coughing, long term health, AND losing money so you had extra reasons to stop beyond the addiction. Sports betting, from the outside, seems like a pretty powerful loop.
Governments have no incentive to restrict gambling. Cigarettes and booze, despite delivering tax dollars, have significant costs as well. But gambling is pure profit. A gambler on the way out doesn't spend two years in hospital getting expensive treatments; they take care of business a lot quicker than that. And most people gambling never have a problem with it anyway. No, I don't see much of a crackdown coming on gambling ads.
The way we USED to do gambling in Ontario was through the OLG. Nobody made money off of gambling addicts, the profits just went back into the tax base to pay for roads and schools. Every single commercial you've ever seen for Lotto 649 was a government ad.
But 4 years ago Doug Ford legalized 3rd party private betting sites, going around the OLG, and they're making a shit ton of money off this and keeping it. We're getting a little bit of tax revenue, but nowhere near as much as we could be if we went back to making them illegal and doing it ourselves.
The only thing holding us back from doing that is elections and bribes.
>Kind of like cigarettes for similar reasons
Wonder what the next horribly addictive thing, we should have legislated before it got out of hand, will be?
Same. My son is 9 and has been asking me about Draft Kings because "we could win $10, 000!"
Of course I had the discussion with him about the risks of gambling and such, and was happy to do so as a parent, but it is still unsettling that I *had* to do it in that moment because we couldn't watch a hockey game without it
The ads are one thing, but the fact that all analysts fucking talk about now is the vegas odds really sours the experience. Why do actual analysis when you can just read a ticker? its maddening.
It’s unfortunately a lesson for both kids and parents. The world is absolutely filled with people trying to sell you something, and you have to develop an ability to avoid becoming a victim. It sucks but it’s necessary. The government used to work to protect its population via regulation but apparently that’s not a thing anymore.
I stopped watching hockey this season rather than expose my kid to it. Normalizing gambling is social cancer. Betting is the opposite of sportsmanship. (I don't want gambling banned, but neither should it be shoved down everyone's throats).
Or the digital board ads. Or the digital ice ads. Or the little popups during the game with the current betting odds. Or the play by play guys being forced to integrate it into their commentary.
This is worse than the ads IMO. I tune out almost all ads nowadays anyway but when they dedicate a 5 minute segment to "up-to-the-minute odds presented by FanDuel" I get pretty pissed.
Don't get me wrong, when I inevitably have to talk to my son/daughter about gambling because of the ads that'll piss me off too, but right now the "analysis" segments are sooooooo much worse.
It seems to me also that the analysis segments have a major conflict of interest here. If your sponsor is a sports book, that totally conflicts with your ostensible job of giving an impartial analysis of the game.
Obviously you don’t really care about it, but I much more prefer them over the decimals once I learned it. The + number is based on a $100 bet, whatever the + is, is how much you get paid for your $100 bet, not including your $100 back. So +120 is winning $120, and your 100 back.
The - numbers are how much you have to bet to win $100. So for -120, you need to bet $120 to win $100
For the answer to that and the other best bets of the evening lets go to our betting correspondent Chad Fucklington from BetItAllAway247 after this brief commercial with McDavid and Gretzky pushing gambling on us!
Hopefully it leads to some legislation this time. The commonwealth countries have been getting fucked by this shit for decades, the gambling lobby [holds unimaginable influence in Australia, for example.](https://youtu.be/DoyH1dgj8Lo)
It's exhausting on so many levels. Basically *every* ad is a gambling ad. All of the ads are exactly the same as one another. All dozen of them are somehow simultaneously the number 1 sportsbook in North America. It's turned literal analyst discourse into what the betting outcomes look like. How fucking boring is that?
No, the one with Chris Pronger is different. You see he makes fun of the other ads, so their app is obviously better. Couldn’t tell you the name of it though.
Hey man, they’re the folksy sportsbook of the people! They’re just honest to goodness regular people bringing you delicious farm-to-table props and same-game parlays.
Yeah, they're the no frills betting app that doesnt try to sway you with glitz and glamour. And they told us that by showing us an ad full of dazzling lights, elaborate water fountains, jets of fire, and a lion.
When we said the league should market itself more we meant have more Cabbie on the street not have Cabbie doing live betting segments and removing any personality the broadcasts have.
It reminds me of the Hot Pocket commercial takeover that happened during Toonami one time. At its peak there were 4 back to back of the same 15 seconds of \**ding** Hot Pockets! commercials. The total count was about 40? of them.
I wonder if these occurrences are a product of undercompetition or overbidding a system?
I'm actually mostly okay with gambling ads that are obviously gambling ads.
What bothers me is how Sportsnet is allowing representatives talk about gambling odds masquerading as analysis when it very clearly is gambling advertisement. I want that out of sports broadcasting yesterday.
The only problem I have with all this is that it's being run by some private company and not the OLG.
At least with those Lotto 649 ads, you know the money people spend on that kind of gambling goes back into the government.
This just makes some guy rich.
Even analysts who give good takes are now basing their "picks" off of betting lines...
"Ohhh but I just can't pass up that spread!"
It's disgusting and completely defeats the purpose of the content.
90 second ad read, 70 seconds of which are sped up addiction support networks.
Between the gambling ads and the constant discussion of gambling lines, I can barely listen to sports podcasts anymore
There should be a blanket ban, not just advertisements. I hate when they have an entire segment dedicated to betting lines, or whenever I'm reading NFL game previews and they have odds/betting tips included. You have Wayne fucking Gretzky and all you can talk about are over/unders?
> I hate when they have an entire segment dedicated to betting lines
The Devils are so guilty of this. Late in the season they started bringing in this coked-out sentient bottle of Axe body spray to scream about betting lines while poor Erika Wachter questions her life choices. Completely unwatchable.
I used to gamble but now that it’s like this I don’t even like it anymore. It used to be for dégénérâtes now they’re trying to msm this shit and it’s so vile
It’s funny you say that because there is definitely a dispensary I’ve been to that was all set up like an Apple Store, they were located in a new wealthy suburban neighborhood and their product was shit. They definitely know what kind of customers they’re getting though
Absolutely disgusting that 99 would ever entangle himself in gambling. Just gonna leave a news article that has nothing to do with this right here https://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=2322234
You’re totally good the gambling ring was more about Tocchett anyways, but I laughed hysterically the first time I saw Gretz on a gambling ad. That was the first Coyotes scandal I can remember growing up at the time, but it really has been constant since then, hopefully the vote next week puts us on an upswing.
Five or six years ago, when Draftkings and FanDuel were starting to get really big, I was fine with sports betting getting less-regulated. People can throw a little money at a game, who cares. It's gonna happen regardless, and I think it's better being in an open system than in shady systems.
But je-sus-fu-cking-christ. I was not anticipating the level of betting ads we were going to receive. It's impossible to watch a sporting event without the odds being shoved down your throat - they even do it *at games now.* You're not even safe in the goddamn stadium.
>That’s how I feel. Seeing 27 ads a period for DraftKings or FanDuel is super annoying and honestly makes me less likely to bet.
Yes, but you're not a person with a gambling addiction. For them, or for those prone to it, they're incredibly tempting ads.
Even if you don't have a gambling addiction it's tempting, i nearly threw a few bucks at a game myself before realizing how unlikely i was to actually make anything
especially since these ads will have famous people like Jamie Foxx or Aaron Paul or players like Connor McDavid fronting them, giving off the impression that if these guys are shilling for whatever gambling site, it must be ok. It's all too horrific.
And how quickly it changed! I almost exclusively listen to games instead of watching, and every broadcast talks about betting now. Every one. That’s obviously not even mentioning the insane number of gambling ads. This is a hard time financially for most people in North America and this feels especially predatory.
I’ve been saying that sports betting advertisers would be taking over everything since Deflate-gate, when I wouldn’t shut up about my crackpot theory that Goodell was determined to punish the face of the league as harshly as possible to put the fear of god into everyone that anyone who caused the legitimacy of statistics to be questioned would be absolutely destroyed.
I then doubted my theory after all the bullshit ref decisions called into question the results of a number of games, but at this time, I now think the botched calls by refs are a feature not a bug according to Goodell and the bookies because of the drama, and knowing that a bad beat for one person, is a lucky win for another.
I read a couple of weeks ago, an NBA player complaining about the trash talk they receive from fans now. They were saying there used to be funny chirps and players have been known to play into the crowd a bit in the NBA but he said now all he gets is people yelling stats they need to hit their parlays.
Are you talking about Chris Boucher of the Raptors? He had a fan tell him that they had "picked the wrong slave" because Boucher didn't get something like 10 points?
What also isn’t talked about is how gambling companies and sports betting are the predominant sponsor across majority of sports and fan related media. From social media to podcasts to YouTube, the major sponsor is usually fan duel / DraftKings / bet365 / you name it.
It just needs liquor level restrictions. They can present their brand basically, but can't show them actually drinking or getting drunk.
Gambling would be the same. However, I'd add the in game odds paid anchor time needs to fucking go ASAP.
It's not transparent that it's a paid spot. It gives the illusion it matters to the game as equally as Mitch Marner sucking ass ever since Mankind threw the undertaker through heck or whatever.
I think it is important to remember that both can be true:
1. Sports betting legalization is a good thing
2. Federal and provincial legislators failed to consider downstream social impacts of legalization
Ultimately, the technical/financial rollout of legal sports betting has been enormously positive: provincial governments have set up rigorous systems that protect consumers and respect provincial boundaries. To my knowledge, nobody has been defrauded by a legal gambling company in Canada yet; and, billions of dollars that went annually to gambling companies operating out of tax havens is now taxable revenue in Canada.
However, there were failures by provincial governments in focusing their energy on consumer protection and financial regulation - primarily as it comes to advertising, which, seemingly, went ignored.
Ultimately, the focus should be on fixing the problem, and both levels of government have a role. The federal government can modify the *Competition Act* or compel CRTC to establish much stricter regulations on sports gambling advertising. They could also introduce legislation to outright ban sports gambling advertising, as occurred with tobacco advertising in 1989 (*Tobacco Products Control Act*). Provincial governments, for their part, can pursue regulation to crack down on it.
> But je-sus-fu-cking-christ. I was not anticipating the level of betting ads we were going to receive.
Someone definitely did not watch European sports broadcasts then. Betting ads during halftime of a premier league match are incessant.
They've already reached the point where clubs and orgs are making anti-betting ad pledges.
As someone who’s had gambling addiction ruin someone close to me, I fear there’s reckoning coming. It’s become so normalized, so easy to do, and so in your face, and it happened so quickly. It’s recent enough that it’s become so widespread that it’s probably still a few years out, but I think it’s gonna be a PROBLEM.
Betting odds always favor the house. So unless they're pissing their profits away in advertising, Draftkings and BetMGM, etc have a business where they will quite literally always make money at.
They don't even sell a product or service. They're practically just collecting money, some of which they eventually don't keep. But they do keep an ass ton of it.
Yes but I'm still shocked by how much money they must be making to have all these ads. There were always things like horse racing, lottery, casino etc but they were never pushed like this. Who knew so many people would be interested in sports betting.
The online gambling space opened this up, I think. There were definitely ads for casinos and horse tracks in Dallas, because there are quite a few within driving distance. But they're relatively location based, and if you have to *drive* somewhere to place a bet, you're going to be sold on the allure of the casino, not on the actual and immediate winning potential of someone who places a bet right now.
But these online sportsbooks let you place a bet right now. So that's what gets advertised.
>According to a new report from iGaming Ontario released Tuesday, the fledgling industry netted approximately $1.4 billion in total gaming revenue and roughly $35.6 billion in total wagers during the market's first year. Ontario was the first Canadian province to launch a legal, regulated market on April 4, 2022.
https://www.thestar.com/business/2023/04/04/ontarians-wagered-356-billion-in-provinces-first-year-of-legal-online-gambling.html
I think there's a bit of capitalism going on where they're trying to spend all the money pushing each other out of the marketplace. Ontario brought in roughly 30 new companies for 2023 to add to the existing 80 or so. I think they all felt compelled to ramp advertising budgets like crazy to either break into the market or keep their existing marketing share.
As the other poster pointed out, it's also an incredible amount of money being made.
Funny thing is when did gambling become normal?
I remember the days when toronto got the raptors. one requirement from the nba was to have no betting of basketball games on pro-line (government controlled sports betting).
Heck, pro sports avoided Vegas as a franchise destination for the longest time too.
And even when the NHL finally went there, it was (never explicitly stated that I can recall) a rule that any name would not contain gambling references.
Now we have teams (Ottawa) who actually carry a sports betting company as their helmet ad sponsor and active players involved in commercials.
Vegas, Arizona and Washington wear gambling ads right on their home jerseys. They can’t wear them on the road because they’re not legal everywhere so their white jerseys have no ads.
Soon the Seattle Kraken will join them. To be a fan of these teams is to be a fan of casinos, they are officially inseparable.
Interesting tidbit about the road jerseys, I never made that connection.
I think part of the strategy of these ads, especially the parts where sports broadcasters are casually discussing betting lines, are meant specifically to make people believe that sports betting is just a normal thing everyone does.
Beleive it or not, but there's A LOT of people who beleive sports betting isn't "gambling". They beleive it's a skill. Somehow being able to know the outcome of a game, how many goals are scored, how many points a player gets, etc. But as most of us know, it's random like 99% of the time, but alot of people cope that it's different than playing blackjack or spinning a slot.
The generation of sports executives who remembered why sports and gambling shouldn't be mixed died off. It's been too long since the last major sports gambling scandal in the US and Canada. It looked like we were on the verge of getting one with the NBA, but that got quieted down, so that leaves the Pete Rose stuff in the 80's as the only real memory the senior people in sports today might have of how bad gambling can be for PR.
It'll probably require the discovery of full-blown game-fixing in a big-4 league to make gambling toxic to the leagues again.
The commercials don’t bother me nearly as much as the product placement type ads where the actual hockey broadcasters are talking about betting. That is the bullshit.
I remember when people were celebrating the legalization of more expansive sports betting in the US and Canada. Anyone who has watched any sports overseas, especially the UK and Australia, knew this was coming.
As someone from the UK I have to say I almost completely disagree with this take.
In the UK, odds are almost never mentioned by analysts, presenters or commentators and they don't appear on the screen during play. Also add in the fact there aren't even commercial breaks during play in soccer games so all commercials are either before the game (which starts at the advertised time and not a random amount of time afterwards) at half time or afterwards and they're incredibly easy to ignore. They're no more intrusive or irritating than a commercial for pizza or laundry detergent
I believe people should have the right to gamble if they want. I also believe the government should limit exposure to ads for it similar to cigarettes.
Make it regulated, you want to advertise, fine, but make it where you can’t broadcast the odds of things and it can’t be apart of the actual broadcast (I.e. having a draft kings segment during the intermission) I can tune out a commercial during the break, I can’t STAND having the broadcast go “hey btw, the odds of the winning team to continue to win is +800 to the other teams -400” right in the middle play, that’s the shit that pisses me off
Does that 9 minutes include the spots during intermission where they have Cabbie or Kevin Weekes deliver a gambling report with live stats and odds and shit?
I care about families and individuals caught up in gambling addictions.
I couldn’t care less about the ads themselves if I wasn’t worried about the impact they’ll have in encouraging relapse and active addiction.
The other day when watching a game, there was one betting site projected on the ice, a second from a different site projected on the boards and a THIRD different one on the scoreboard bug.
This fucking shit needs to be reighned in.
As someone who has battled gambling addiction but also loves hockey… it is annoying. Every game I watch I have to fight the urge to not fall back into old habits.
no wonder they got rid of don Cherry, imagine him trying to tell you about odds on anything. "the leafs to win score overtime goals above 6 today game yes, its gonna happen for sure!, leafs will win!"
I'm all for allowing Sports gambling and allowing advertising of it but there does need to be some sort of limit to how much of the advertisements are for gambling. They also need to split Sports content from gambling content because half of their segments at least at this point are about gambling odds or talking about gambling or stuff that's not really useful knowledge about what we're watching. I would like to hear analysis of what's going on and not how many goals they think is going to get scored in the third period so that somebody can make a bet on it
On top of the fact gambling has its own laundry list of issues to society I just don't want to watch the same commercial 50 God damn times during one game. I'd basically be equally as upset if I saw that many Lexus ads
Please I’m so tired of it, I don’t wanna see Jessie pinkman trying to get me in to it, I used to like cabbie but now hate seeing him knowing all it will be about the bets! Hell even Steve dangle has a stupid gambling sponser that is need to be skipped every video.
Many people don't realize that betting is the same as playing slots - there is no way you can win in the long run. Once you start winning, the bookmarker is going to limit your maximum bet or even ban you. The casino always wins.
I’ve never gambled, have no interest in it, but these ads (and in game/intermission betting segments) are making the games borderline unbearable now. I can’t imagine how this is for anyone struggling with addiction themselves, or people who have had loved ones affected by it.
I heavily favor this initiative
The ads will inevitably be banned or regulated. They are going to cash in as hard as possible until then. Kind of like cigarettes for similar reasons.
Let's make a compromise and regulate the ads into no existence.
Decent chance they will and the NHL (and the television networks) know that. That is why they are full pedal to the metal while they can.
Also, because a lot of the companies behind this are your standard tech start-up ventures which inherently have no plan for nor any interest in the future, and exist to rapidly raise capital, achieve maximum exposure, and get out before the whole deck of cards comes crashing down. Potential regulation five years down the road is completely irrelevant. "Sustainable" is not a real word, in their vocabulary.
As someone who once worked in that space -- you are 100% correct.
That's an excellent point and very much explains their ad blitzes which must be burning through so much cash
For some reason I get the feeling that all those different brands are just the same company.
It’s like how 95% of the packaged food products in the grocery store come from the same 3-4 companies.
That’s why they’re going full-bore now — going from way too many betting ads to “just” too many betting ads will be seen as a compromise.
Yes, I’m so tired of the constant parade of betting ads!!
I study addiction (mostly substance addiction though) and think about this way too much, and I honestly think sports betting commercials are worse than cigarette commercials ever were.
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It's also super easy for kids to get accounts on gambling apps now, even with the apps' flaky verification systems. The fact that it's so new is part of what scares me, especially because gambling companies seemed to have gotten ahead of it. Something like beer has been well-integrated into Canadian society for literally hundreds of years. Kids don't learn about beer from commercials, they already know it exists from their family or friends *before* they start paying any attention to beer commercials. If they learn anything from ads, it's brand preference. Sports betting is almost a reverse. It's only blown up in the past few years, and until now, there was a lot of people who barely knew it existed, or didn't care enough to find out how to do it. Now their ads make the first impression. If you're a hockey fan, it's literally unavoidable to watch them, plus intermission segments about where to put your money. It doesn't just tell kids sports betting exists, but tells them exactly where to go and what to bet on. It's insidious.
Add on all these ads make it seem like they will give you free money to use the app, like it's almost impossible to lose your money. And small bets will give you huge yields. I haven't dug too deep into the fine print but it seems like all the good shit is playing with monopoly money, but the losses are yours.
I gamble on sports. I did it before the massive craze began. I spend about $100 a month. I'm worried about all the ads, I hate having kids talking betting lines. It's crap. The way the " free money" works is, they will match whatever you put in up to a certain amount but over a minimum. Usually $20. The free money is gambled the same way your money is. However, you can't withdraw it the same way, each book has different rules. But it's totally designed as a loss leader of sorts. You sign up, you put in $20 you get another $20. You now have $40. Some of the apps will give you an insane probability on a near sure thing. Something stupid easyike Stuart Skinner to get 5 saves the first period or something idiotic like that. The point is to give you a dopamine hit early. Another tactic is by doubling your money, they increase the probability you will diversify that money and you will win some of those bets and gain some confidence. By getting another dopamine hit. No first time gambler is going to hit it big, but they don't know that. Then they discover parlays. These are bets placed on multiple events having to happen in order to win. Stacking multiple events increases the potential winnings. You can do parlays on pretty much anything depending on the event. For the Superbowl it's Gatorade colors and coin tosses. For hockey it's puck lines, goal lines uhhhm also things like McDavid will score twice + drai to get 1 point + nurse to block 3 shots + Skinner to get a shut out. Will pay put 3 - 7 x your initial bet. Each of those things COULD happen, they even sound probable in the right mindset. But as we all know the house always wins. My gambling is like playing the lottery, I participate in those insane parlays that won't ever pay off.....probably. but if it ever did my wagers would earn me between 2500- $10,000. The most insane one I had this year was my dream scenario, McDavid to win the Art Ross, McDavid to win the Rocket Richard, McDavid to get at least 50, McDavid to win the Conn Smythe, the oilers to win over 50 games, the oilers to win the cup, McDavid to lead playoffs in goals. $5 bet - $5000 payout iirc. But it didn't hit of course lol. Good opportunity to point out that I can more than afford to do this, I do not encourage participating in sport gambling if you have an addictive personality. I don't recommend ever starting with more than $10 and if you do start up ever. Utilize the apps security features to help protect yourself. Mine for example will not allow more than $100 a month in deposits. The ads make it seem like you're missing out and your pile of money is right here waiting, just get your phone out. There is no pile of money waiting. None, it's like a Vegas casino floor, you aren't there to win. Just have fun. I apologize for rambling. You didn't even say you wanted an education in the topic, just that you didn know.
I wonder what will happen in the eventual case that some 17 year old loses thousands of dollars then claims they aren't liable because they weren't legally gambling. No idea which way that goes.
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Exactly. It's especially risky for recovering gambling addicts, too, who haven't had to deal with this shit until the past few years. It's much easier to relapse when all you have to do is download an app, especially when you're being egged on for half of every commercial break.
One of the podcasts I listen to has a 30 second gambling ad to start, followed by TWO MINUTES of where to get help if you have a gambling issue.
I don't think cigarettes ever went the cartoon drug dealer route of offering you free cigarettes to get you hooked
The US tobacco industry marketed candy cigarettes when I was a kid. They made starter tobacco products like Hawken smokeless and Happy Days mint smokeless marketed at teenagers. That’s how I started. Big tobacco used to groom consumers from age 4. I know. I was a victim of these practices. Tobacco free 22 years now.
That's what makes it such an interesting topic to me. Personally, I don't gamble because I like my money, but I can see the allure in going to a casino, taking a chance, having fun, and blowing off some steam if you have the money to spare. However, with sports betting, I can see how it would immediately make watching sports more interesting than it was before. Because of that, I can see how the sports you watched while betting will suddenly become much less interesting if you stop. It seems like a powerful loop. At least with cigs, I could point to smelling like crap, coughing, long term health, AND losing money so you had extra reasons to stop beyond the addiction. Sports betting, from the outside, seems like a pretty powerful loop.
Governments have no incentive to restrict gambling. Cigarettes and booze, despite delivering tax dollars, have significant costs as well. But gambling is pure profit. A gambler on the way out doesn't spend two years in hospital getting expensive treatments; they take care of business a lot quicker than that. And most people gambling never have a problem with it anyway. No, I don't see much of a crackdown coming on gambling ads.
The way we USED to do gambling in Ontario was through the OLG. Nobody made money off of gambling addicts, the profits just went back into the tax base to pay for roads and schools. Every single commercial you've ever seen for Lotto 649 was a government ad. But 4 years ago Doug Ford legalized 3rd party private betting sites, going around the OLG, and they're making a shit ton of money off this and keeping it. We're getting a little bit of tax revenue, but nowhere near as much as we could be if we went back to making them illegal and doing it ourselves. The only thing holding us back from doing that is elections and bribes.
I disagree with your logic in several ways, but a gambler will become a burden on social safety nets so even with your own logic it will be regulated.
>Kind of like cigarettes for similar reasons Wonder what the next horribly addictive thing, we should have legislated before it got out of hand, will be?
Same. My son is 9 and has been asking me about Draft Kings because "we could win $10, 000!" Of course I had the discussion with him about the risks of gambling and such, and was happy to do so as a parent, but it is still unsettling that I *had* to do it in that moment because we couldn't watch a hockey game without it
Yep. And I find it odd how Sportnet will run that Minecraft Hockey World ad in between gambling ads. Kids are seeing these ads like crazy.
The ads are one thing, but the fact that all analysts fucking talk about now is the vegas odds really sours the experience. Why do actual analysis when you can just read a ticker? its maddening.
That's actually aggravating that you needed to have that conversation with your son.
It’s unfortunately a lesson for both kids and parents. The world is absolutely filled with people trying to sell you something, and you have to develop an ability to avoid becoming a victim. It sucks but it’s necessary. The government used to work to protect its population via regulation but apparently that’s not a thing anymore.
I stopped watching hockey this season rather than expose my kid to it. Normalizing gambling is social cancer. Betting is the opposite of sportsmanship. (I don't want gambling banned, but neither should it be shoved down everyone's throats).
100%. I'm actually surprised it's only 9 minutes though. It feels like so much more.
Maybe that 9 minutes doesn't include the various discussions of odds that take place during the official analysis segments.
I’m also counting the number of times we see animated Draft Kings advertisements on the boards.
Or the digital board ads. Or the digital ice ads. Or the little popups during the game with the current betting odds. Or the play by play guys being forced to integrate it into their commentary.
This is worse than the ads IMO. I tune out almost all ads nowadays anyway but when they dedicate a 5 minute segment to "up-to-the-minute odds presented by FanDuel" I get pretty pissed. Don't get me wrong, when I inevitably have to talk to my son/daughter about gambling because of the ads that'll piss me off too, but right now the "analysis" segments are sooooooo much worse.
It seems to me also that the analysis segments have a major conflict of interest here. If your sponsor is a sports book, that totally conflicts with your ostensible job of giving an impartial analysis of the game.
What's the O/U on this initiative passing?
+120? Whatever the fuck that means.
I still don’t get how those odds work. Why don’t they just tell you a percentage
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Obviously you don’t really care about it, but I much more prefer them over the decimals once I learned it. The + number is based on a $100 bet, whatever the + is, is how much you get paid for your $100 bet, not including your $100 back. So +120 is winning $120, and your 100 back. The - numbers are how much you have to bet to win $100. So for -120, you need to bet $120 to win $100
For the answer to that and the other best bets of the evening lets go to our betting correspondent Chad Fucklington from BetItAllAway247 after this brief commercial with McDavid and Gretzky pushing gambling on us!
"Do you mind Wayne? I'm practicing here." "What you need to practice on is your parlay approach. You're a fuckin disgrace to the jersey Connor."
"Yeah, well...shouldn't you be *golfin'*?"
Hopefully it leads to some legislation this time. The commonwealth countries have been getting fucked by this shit for decades, the gambling lobby [holds unimaginable influence in Australia, for example.](https://youtu.be/DoyH1dgj8Lo)
Add the useless fucking segments on SC and SN to this list. Betting odds aren’t news, go away.
It's exhausting on so many levels. Basically *every* ad is a gambling ad. All of the ads are exactly the same as one another. All dozen of them are somehow simultaneously the number 1 sportsbook in North America. It's turned literal analyst discourse into what the betting outcomes look like. How fucking boring is that?
No, the one with Chris Pronger is different. You see he makes fun of the other ads, so their app is obviously better. Couldn’t tell you the name of it though.
I think it’s called “the betting app that couldn’t stop”
The betting app that couldn’t slow down
"Billy and the Betosaurus."
Hey man, they’re the folksy sportsbook of the people! They’re just honest to goodness regular people bringing you delicious farm-to-table props and same-game parlays.
Yeah, they're the no frills betting app that doesnt try to sway you with glitz and glamour. And they told us that by showing us an ad full of dazzling lights, elaborate water fountains, jets of fire, and a lion.
Beats the shit out of their regular season dad-rock ad, or that minute madness ad where she says "see what I did there?"
You mean the guy who caused a stink about how the NHL/PA does nothing to help the players manage their money? That Chris Pronger?
Cabbie: "Let's goooooooo.." Go away, bud.
One of his ads make it look like he's at a beer league game. Like he's such a degenerate gambler that he's chasing that hockey fix.
How else are you supposed to get through your 7 year olds house league game
Dude, I cringe so badly every time he does it
I miss the old Cabbie
I can't believe this is what they've got him doing, surely he can provide more
When we said the league should market itself more we meant have more Cabbie on the street not have Cabbie doing live betting segments and removing any personality the broadcasts have.
Bro lets take this 7 second break in the action to let you know that you can place a bet on the outcome of the faceoff before the action starts again!
It reminds me of the Hot Pocket commercial takeover that happened during Toonami one time. At its peak there were 4 back to back of the same 15 seconds of \**ding** Hot Pockets! commercials. The total count was about 40? of them. I wonder if these occurrences are a product of undercompetition or overbidding a system?
I'm actually mostly okay with gambling ads that are obviously gambling ads. What bothers me is how Sportsnet is allowing representatives talk about gambling odds masquerading as analysis when it very clearly is gambling advertisement. I want that out of sports broadcasting yesterday.
Looking at Dangle's podcast here as well.
The only problem I have with all this is that it's being run by some private company and not the OLG. At least with those Lotto 649 ads, you know the money people spend on that kind of gambling goes back into the government. This just makes some guy rich.
Even analysts who give good takes are now basing their "picks" off of betting lines... "Ohhh but I just can't pass up that spread!" It's disgusting and completely defeats the purpose of the content.
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90 second ad read, 70 seconds of which are sped up addiction support networks. Between the gambling ads and the constant discussion of gambling lines, I can barely listen to sports podcasts anymore
You’re lucky if you get a Timmies ad these days.
Gambling ad or pickup truck ad … I just hate ads
There should be a blanket ban, not just advertisements. I hate when they have an entire segment dedicated to betting lines, or whenever I'm reading NFL game previews and they have odds/betting tips included. You have Wayne fucking Gretzky and all you can talk about are over/unders?
> I hate when they have an entire segment dedicated to betting lines The Devils are so guilty of this. Late in the season they started bringing in this coked-out sentient bottle of Axe body spray to scream about betting lines while poor Erika Wachter questions her life choices. Completely unwatchable.
>coked-out sentient bottle of Axe body spray Thank you for this.
Oh man he's not lying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RixSNf7l7hI&t=2s
and his last name is Monaco. Perfect.
I have a friend who has that surname and he is a really good guy, but man do I ever associate it with doucheyness otherwise
Ngl i thought it was funny because of the casino in Monaco, but I just looked up sports betting in Monaco and it’s illegal🤷♀️
Reminds me of every finance bro.
Oh man I got about six second into that before I had to close the tab
Thanks I hate it
Somehow I knew it was gonna be that guy even though I've been fortunate enough to see him a few brief times. Horrible.
Its Jean-Ralphio from Parks and Rec come to life.
r/rareinsults
That right there is poetry.
I wish I had a free award to give for that line. u/fartswhenhappy would have farted so many times..
> they started bringing in this coked-out sentient bottle of Axe body spray Is there a picture of this somewhere? I gotta see that.
Alex Monaco is his name, can’t really find a good picture but I do remember the segments and it’s a perfect description.
here ya go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RixSNf7l7hI&t=2s
You’re a poet
We could have more Sal and Erika on screen.... But instead we get this asshole.
They have entire half hour to full hour “sports” shows dedicated to daily gambling picks, im fucking sick of it
I used to gamble but now that it’s like this I don’t even like it anymore. It used to be for dégénérâtes now they’re trying to msm this shit and it’s so vile
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God, it pissed me off when they eliminated the USB port from my bong.
You jest, but there are BT enabled vapes out there. A lot of smoking devices charge off of USB since it's everywhere.
It’s funny you say that because there is definitely a dispensary I’ve been to that was all set up like an Apple Store, they were located in a new wealthy suburban neighborhood and their product was shit. They definitely know what kind of customers they’re getting though
It’s exhausting. There’s so much money flowing in from the gambling apps right now, just permeating everything.
This is the part that pisses me off the most. Fuck that shit.
I love how the have Gretz doing the gambling ads as if Operation Shapshot just never happened
They don't "have him" doing it, he's an absolute shill for gambling. I looked at his twitter a while back and it was just him pushing gambling.
yeah because the revenue has sky rocketed from that
Well Gretz knows about betting so maybe have him do it
Absolutely disgusting that 99 would ever entangle himself in gambling. Just gonna leave a news article that has nothing to do with this right here https://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=2322234
Thought about adding that in parenthesis, but then the comment loses even more readability
You’re totally good the gambling ring was more about Tocchett anyways, but I laughed hysterically the first time I saw Gretz on a gambling ad. That was the first Coyotes scandal I can remember growing up at the time, but it really has been constant since then, hopefully the vote next week puts us on an upswing.
God we're never gonna recover from the Gretzky days, no wonder we went bankrupt they basically ran the team like a Mafia money laundering scheme
Gretzky is in gambling ads, too
Five or six years ago, when Draftkings and FanDuel were starting to get really big, I was fine with sports betting getting less-regulated. People can throw a little money at a game, who cares. It's gonna happen regardless, and I think it's better being in an open system than in shady systems. But je-sus-fu-cking-christ. I was not anticipating the level of betting ads we were going to receive. It's impossible to watch a sporting event without the odds being shoved down your throat - they even do it *at games now.* You're not even safe in the goddamn stadium.
That’s how I feel. Seeing 27 ads a period for DraftKings or FanDuel is super annoying and honestly makes me less likely to bet.
>That’s how I feel. Seeing 27 ads a period for DraftKings or FanDuel is super annoying and honestly makes me less likely to bet. Yes, but you're not a person with a gambling addiction. For them, or for those prone to it, they're incredibly tempting ads.
That makes it even more nefarious. Might as well start advertising for meth and really screw some vulnerable people up.
Even if you don't have a gambling addiction it's tempting, i nearly threw a few bucks at a game myself before realizing how unlikely i was to actually make anything
But hey, they give the gambling problem disclaimer! So they’re in the clear!
especially since these ads will have famous people like Jamie Foxx or Aaron Paul or players like Connor McDavid fronting them, giving off the impression that if these guys are shilling for whatever gambling site, it must be ok. It's all too horrific.
And how quickly it changed! I almost exclusively listen to games instead of watching, and every broadcast talks about betting now. Every one. That’s obviously not even mentioning the insane number of gambling ads. This is a hard time financially for most people in North America and this feels especially predatory.
I can't believe people didn't see this coming. Slippery slope is an understatement
I’ve been saying that sports betting advertisers would be taking over everything since Deflate-gate, when I wouldn’t shut up about my crackpot theory that Goodell was determined to punish the face of the league as harshly as possible to put the fear of god into everyone that anyone who caused the legitimacy of statistics to be questioned would be absolutely destroyed. I then doubted my theory after all the bullshit ref decisions called into question the results of a number of games, but at this time, I now think the botched calls by refs are a feature not a bug according to Goodell and the bookies because of the drama, and knowing that a bad beat for one person, is a lucky win for another.
All you had to do was watch a Premier League game to know where we were heading.
I read a couple of weeks ago, an NBA player complaining about the trash talk they receive from fans now. They were saying there used to be funny chirps and players have been known to play into the crowd a bit in the NBA but he said now all he gets is people yelling stats they need to hit their parlays.
Are you talking about Chris Boucher of the Raptors? He had a fan tell him that they had "picked the wrong slave" because Boucher didn't get something like 10 points?
Man, I'd have been cool with malice in the palace pt 2 after that comment.
> now all he gets is people yelling stats they need to hit their parlays. Ok thats kinda funny 🤣🤣🤣
What also isn’t talked about is how gambling companies and sports betting are the predominant sponsor across majority of sports and fan related media. From social media to podcasts to YouTube, the major sponsor is usually fan duel / DraftKings / bet365 / you name it.
It just needs liquor level restrictions. They can present their brand basically, but can't show them actually drinking or getting drunk. Gambling would be the same. However, I'd add the in game odds paid anchor time needs to fucking go ASAP. It's not transparent that it's a paid spot. It gives the illusion it matters to the game as equally as Mitch Marner sucking ass ever since Mankind threw the undertaker through heck or whatever.
I think it is important to remember that both can be true: 1. Sports betting legalization is a good thing 2. Federal and provincial legislators failed to consider downstream social impacts of legalization Ultimately, the technical/financial rollout of legal sports betting has been enormously positive: provincial governments have set up rigorous systems that protect consumers and respect provincial boundaries. To my knowledge, nobody has been defrauded by a legal gambling company in Canada yet; and, billions of dollars that went annually to gambling companies operating out of tax havens is now taxable revenue in Canada. However, there were failures by provincial governments in focusing their energy on consumer protection and financial regulation - primarily as it comes to advertising, which, seemingly, went ignored. Ultimately, the focus should be on fixing the problem, and both levels of government have a role. The federal government can modify the *Competition Act* or compel CRTC to establish much stricter regulations on sports gambling advertising. They could also introduce legislation to outright ban sports gambling advertising, as occurred with tobacco advertising in 1989 (*Tobacco Products Control Act*). Provincial governments, for their part, can pursue regulation to crack down on it.
>Sports betting legalization is a good thing It is when it's run by the government, not when it's run by a private company.
> But je-sus-fu-cking-christ. I was not anticipating the level of betting ads we were going to receive. Someone definitely did not watch European sports broadcasts then. Betting ads during halftime of a premier league match are incessant. They've already reached the point where clubs and orgs are making anti-betting ad pledges.
As someone who’s had gambling addiction ruin someone close to me, I fear there’s reckoning coming. It’s become so normalized, so easy to do, and so in your face, and it happened so quickly. It’s recent enough that it’s become so widespread that it’s probably still a few years out, but I think it’s gonna be a PROBLEM.
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Betting odds always favor the house. So unless they're pissing their profits away in advertising, Draftkings and BetMGM, etc have a business where they will quite literally always make money at.
They don't even sell a product or service. They're practically just collecting money, some of which they eventually don't keep. But they do keep an ass ton of it.
They're financial parasites.
Yes but I'm still shocked by how much money they must be making to have all these ads. There were always things like horse racing, lottery, casino etc but they were never pushed like this. Who knew so many people would be interested in sports betting.
The online gambling space opened this up, I think. There were definitely ads for casinos and horse tracks in Dallas, because there are quite a few within driving distance. But they're relatively location based, and if you have to *drive* somewhere to place a bet, you're going to be sold on the allure of the casino, not on the actual and immediate winning potential of someone who places a bet right now. But these online sportsbooks let you place a bet right now. So that's what gets advertised.
It's just like the lottery, it's a tax on stupid.
>According to a new report from iGaming Ontario released Tuesday, the fledgling industry netted approximately $1.4 billion in total gaming revenue and roughly $35.6 billion in total wagers during the market's first year. Ontario was the first Canadian province to launch a legal, regulated market on April 4, 2022. https://www.thestar.com/business/2023/04/04/ontarians-wagered-356-billion-in-provinces-first-year-of-legal-online-gambling.html
I think there's a bit of capitalism going on where they're trying to spend all the money pushing each other out of the marketplace. Ontario brought in roughly 30 new companies for 2023 to add to the existing 80 or so. I think they all felt compelled to ramp advertising budgets like crazy to either break into the market or keep their existing marketing share. As the other poster pointed out, it's also an incredible amount of money being made.
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There is no way it's only 9 minutes
No, this probably doesn’t include the digital ads on the boards, ice or during intermission when they do betting odds.
Yeah if it's 9 minutes they can do 20 second ads **27 times** in one hockey game.
I see no problem with it - this comment is sponsored by FanDuel use promo code "crippling debt" for $100 in free bets.
I don’t want to see Aaron Paul anymore unless he’s calling drug lords “bitch”.
Funny thing is when did gambling become normal? I remember the days when toronto got the raptors. one requirement from the nba was to have no betting of basketball games on pro-line (government controlled sports betting).
Heck, pro sports avoided Vegas as a franchise destination for the longest time too. And even when the NHL finally went there, it was (never explicitly stated that I can recall) a rule that any name would not contain gambling references. Now we have teams (Ottawa) who actually carry a sports betting company as their helmet ad sponsor and active players involved in commercials.
Vegas, Arizona and Washington wear gambling ads right on their home jerseys. They can’t wear them on the road because they’re not legal everywhere so their white jerseys have no ads.
Soon the Seattle Kraken will join them. To be a fan of these teams is to be a fan of casinos, they are officially inseparable. Interesting tidbit about the road jerseys, I never made that connection.
I think part of the strategy of these ads, especially the parts where sports broadcasters are casually discussing betting lines, are meant specifically to make people believe that sports betting is just a normal thing everyone does.
Beleive it or not, but there's A LOT of people who beleive sports betting isn't "gambling". They beleive it's a skill. Somehow being able to know the outcome of a game, how many goals are scored, how many points a player gets, etc. But as most of us know, it's random like 99% of the time, but alot of people cope that it's different than playing blackjack or spinning a slot.
The generation of sports executives who remembered why sports and gambling shouldn't be mixed died off. It's been too long since the last major sports gambling scandal in the US and Canada. It looked like we were on the verge of getting one with the NBA, but that got quieted down, so that leaves the Pete Rose stuff in the 80's as the only real memory the senior people in sports today might have of how bad gambling can be for PR. It'll probably require the discovery of full-blown game-fixing in a big-4 league to make gambling toxic to the leagues again.
And people now think "Say it ain't so" is just a Weezer song.
Ten bucks says that one of those scandals is gonna happen a *lot* sooner than we all expect
I mean they banned cigarette commercials. And they can’t show people drinking beer in commercials. So there’s definitely precedence for this.
Yeah that'll happen here too, we're just at early days. This is new so the limitations haven't been established yet.
Gotta wait until half the country is in debt due to a gambling addiction first
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Not in Canada, I don’t know the rules in the States.
The commercials don’t bother me nearly as much as the product placement type ads where the actual hockey broadcasters are talking about betting. That is the bullshit.
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Remember when we used to have play analysis and replays between whistles and not just gambling ads and odds? Pepperidge Farm Remembers
It's disgusting and predatory.
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I remember when people were celebrating the legalization of more expansive sports betting in the US and Canada. Anyone who has watched any sports overseas, especially the UK and Australia, knew this was coming.
As someone from the UK I have to say I almost completely disagree with this take. In the UK, odds are almost never mentioned by analysts, presenters or commentators and they don't appear on the screen during play. Also add in the fact there aren't even commercial breaks during play in soccer games so all commercials are either before the game (which starts at the advertised time and not a random amount of time afterwards) at half time or afterwards and they're incredibly easy to ignore. They're no more intrusive or irritating than a commercial for pizza or laundry detergent
The counterpoint to this is that in the UK and Ireland there is a betting shop on approximately every street corner.
I believe people should have the right to gamble if they want. I also believe the government should limit exposure to ads for it similar to cigarettes.
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I always thought it was no different than cigarette ads except one product gives you cancer and the other makes me wish I had it.
Make it regulated, you want to advertise, fine, but make it where you can’t broadcast the odds of things and it can’t be apart of the actual broadcast (I.e. having a draft kings segment during the intermission) I can tune out a commercial during the break, I can’t STAND having the broadcast go “hey btw, the odds of the winning team to continue to win is +800 to the other teams -400” right in the middle play, that’s the shit that pisses me off
It’s hilarious how some of the ads make gambling look so sketchy. The one with Jesse Pinkman looks like he’s advertising something on the Dark Web
Does that 9 minutes include the spots during intermission where they have Cabbie or Kevin Weekes deliver a gambling report with live stats and odds and shit?
That new group - "fans" (I don't care about sports gambling, its the non stop ads)
I care about families and individuals caught up in gambling addictions. I couldn’t care less about the ads themselves if I wasn’t worried about the impact they’ll have in encouraging relapse and active addiction.
The other day when watching a game, there was one betting site projected on the ice, a second from a different site projected on the boards and a THIRD different one on the scoreboard bug. This fucking shit needs to be reighned in.
As someone who has battled gambling addiction but also loves hockey… it is annoying. Every game I watch I have to fight the urge to not fall back into old habits.
Stay strong.
no wonder they got rid of don Cherry, imagine him trying to tell you about odds on anything. "the leafs to win score overtime goals above 6 today game yes, its gonna happen for sure!, leafs will win!"
Because they’ve got some GOOD ONTARIO BOYS
I loved this so much. Thanks for putting a smile on my face today.
Pisses me off Dangle took the 365 shit money too. I mean, he deserves good pay but that's a turn off for me somehow.
Only 9 minutes? I don't believe that for a second.
I'm all for allowing Sports gambling and allowing advertising of it but there does need to be some sort of limit to how much of the advertisements are for gambling. They also need to split Sports content from gambling content because half of their segments at least at this point are about gambling odds or talking about gambling or stuff that's not really useful knowledge about what we're watching. I would like to hear analysis of what's going on and not how many goals they think is going to get scored in the third period so that somebody can make a bet on it On top of the fact gambling has its own laundry list of issues to society I just don't want to watch the same commercial 50 God damn times during one game. I'd basically be equally as upset if I saw that many Lexus ads
Please I’m so tired of it, I don’t wanna see Jessie pinkman trying to get me in to it, I used to like cabbie but now hate seeing him knowing all it will be about the bets! Hell even Steve dangle has a stupid gambling sponser that is need to be skipped every video.
Many people don't realize that betting is the same as playing slots - there is no way you can win in the long run. Once you start winning, the bookmarker is going to limit your maximum bet or even ban you. The casino always wins.
I’ve never gambled, have no interest in it, but these ads (and in game/intermission betting segments) are making the games borderline unbearable now. I can’t imagine how this is for anyone struggling with addiction themselves, or people who have had loved ones affected by it.
Is there anyone who wants to defend these ads? Seems to me that nobody likes them, yet they're everywhere. I hope this gains traction.
I agree, I am sick of all of the sports betting integration into every single sport. It is really annoying.
I don't think it's fair to ban them permanently, but suspending the Leafs for a year or two would do us all a favour.
Please ban them I can’t handle the way Aaron Paul says “same day PARLAYYYY”