To be fair we hardly need any insiders to confirm that for us. Green was easily gonna be the cheapest option with prior HC experience. Only way to go cheaper is to get a guy with no experience again (which might have been the better choice lol).
Andlauer claimed he wanted “best in class” to work with the Sens.
That seems like an empty promise when the first major decision they make with the franchise is to go cheap on a coach and sign him to 4years.
Maybe Green works out, but this mindset of going cheap doesn’t inspire any confidence. Especially after dealing with a cheap owner before.
Lebrun's report this morning -- that the Devils hope to have a hire in the next 7-10 days, and the situation should be clearer by the end of the week -- definitely makes it seem like they want Berube, and have to wait and see what happens in Toronto first. We'll see.
If I'm Berube I'd much rather have New Jersey's roster than Ottawa right now. You guys have great building block type players and an ownership group and GM that seems to be attempting to correct the weaknesses.
We thought Andlauer would be aggressive with that as well, but apparantly not?
Babcock is a good point, but no matter who the gm has been the overall core has not changed. And 2 coaches in all this time is still pretty surprising considering the lack of progress.
Friedman also said right after that he is always torn about making those type of statements because it gets misconstrued easily.
couldnt resist toying with the OTA fans i guess
The full quote. IMO it's not nearly as bad as the snippets on Twitter make it sound
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"I do think they went pretty far down the road with Craig Berube and weather it was because-I've seen some reports that Berube felt there were better setups elsewhere. I do think there was some financial question about it. Berube is in a higher stratosphere. And I always want to be careful with this kind of stuff because it doesn't necessarily mean um-Sometimes that get's warped in certain directions and I'm not always comfortable with it. But I think that Berube, and quite rightly, everybody is more than welcome to decide what their worth is and Berube is in a stratosphere where, um, you know, the Senators just felt that there-I just think that they felt there was a better option or jut a situation where it didn't make sense for them. They're the ones that should explain it. But I do think that they were interested and I do think they went pretty far down the path."
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Dude knows that MSLE will pay him handsomely because the Leafs are the most profitable team in the league. Did he use that as leverage in his other interviews and over-value himself? Seems possible.
Those snippets are removing the nonsense, nothing words that Friedman spewed in-between saying they went far down the road and that he thinks money was a factor. Everything else is bafflegab in that quote.
And fans are going completely batshit insane accusing Andlauer of being Melnyk 2.0 after one hire. Hockey is a business and businesses don’t want to overpay for things they don’t have to. This could very easily be a case of Berube over-valuing himself in the negotiations and the Sens not believing he’s worth what he says he is.
The Sens are still a small market team. They still have a smaller profit margin than the Leafs or Rangers or other big market teams. They still have to be budget conscious.
Don't give a crap about any of that. I'm talking about his quote and between the bullshit, Friedman definitely says Berube wasn't his due to money. And Kypreos is saying the same thing,].
I don't care about anything else right now.
Lol there's budget conscious and there's hiring the cheapest coach available. Best in third class!
As a fan, I don't give a crap about the budget of the team. That's not our problem. Don't give us empty platitudes and act like you're going to do whatever it takes to win.
Shaggy: Like, jeez Scoob, how did Velma know it was him?
Velma: Simple, Shaggy. Any other team with talent like this would've made the playoffs, which led me to deduce that the GM wasn't who he claimed to be!
What's worse?
1) Going far down the road with Berube, flinching and not wanting to actually pay for a Stanley Cup winning coach, and having him potentially land with the Leafs.
2) After an "exhaustive" search coming to the conclusion Travis Green is your best candidate, influenced by him fitting the budget, and have him leverage a 4-year deal out of you.
Poor Sens fans.
Apropos of nothing in particular, Berube's nickname in our hockey pool eons ago was "Shoop."
As in, "I'm in tatters / Shoop, Berube, I've been shattered, shattered."
I’m going to become the joker
Kypreos also reported that "Ottawa went cheap with Green", but I don't necessarily trust his word
Maybe the ownership didn’t search for a coach in “lost&found” bin but rather “90% off” shelf
Thrift shop coaching find.
Michael “Macklemore” Andlauer
Thought Loblaws got rid of that
To be fair we hardly need any insiders to confirm that for us. Green was easily gonna be the cheapest option with prior HC experience. Only way to go cheaper is to get a guy with no experience again (which might have been the better choice lol).
Ducharme exists. I'm not saying he'd be a good choice, but he's a rookie coach with NHL experience (and playoff experience) who Ottawa's owner knows.
he’s probably got a vendetta against the sens due to him losing out in the ownership battle for the team
Vendetta or not, I can guarantee you that Green was a cheaper hire that Berube was.
Did this have to be stated? Pretty obvious lol
lots of people talk to kypreos. say what you want about his takes, he has a ton of connections in the league.
Andlauer claimed he wanted “best in class” to work with the Sens. That seems like an empty promise when the first major decision they make with the franchise is to go cheap on a coach and sign him to 4years. Maybe Green works out, but this mindset of going cheap doesn’t inspire any confidence. Especially after dealing with a cheap owner before.
Best in class, class being C-tier coaching
Prepare for every post game presser starting with "that's a good team over there" Signed a Nux fan
When he said best in class he was referring to economy class /s
Are we the better setup?
Lebrun's report this morning -- that the Devils hope to have a hire in the next 7-10 days, and the situation should be clearer by the end of the week -- definitely makes it seem like they want Berube, and have to wait and see what happens in Toronto first. We'll see.
Given who our owners are….a tad
If I'm Berube I'd much rather have New Jersey's roster than Ottawa right now. You guys have great building block type players and an ownership group and GM that seems to be attempting to correct the weaknesses. We thought Andlauer would be aggressive with that as well, but apparantly not?
Nj taxes are no joke tho
so are Ontarios. It bet its pretty similar.
Toronto about to give him whatever he wants with MLSE money 🤑🤑
Should we though? I don’t want Keefe but Berube’s track record doesn’t instil me with much more confidence
🤷♂️ who knows what this team should do anymore. Nothing works
I mean, they also haven't tried anything 😂 the core and the coach and the team president have not been altered at all
Depends if you count Babcock. But this core has had 2 coaches. Soon to be 3 I hope. Also had Lou as GM, Dubas and now Tre.
Babcock is a good point, but no matter who the gm has been the overall core has not changed. And 2 coaches in all this time is still pretty surprising considering the lack of progress.
Yeah I agree, need more of a shake up than just the coach and GM at this point.
Gamble with Jukka Jalonen to see if the Finnish trap hockey is the way.
You have got to be kidding me, guess some things just don't change
Friedman also said right after that he is always torn about making those type of statements because it gets misconstrued easily. couldnt resist toying with the OTA fans i guess
Lol funny how Elliotte specifically says he doesn't like his words warped and then people post on reddit and warp his words
And people go and take their pitchforks out over those warped words that were never actually said
Usual Internet things? Happening on the Internet, you say?
Shocking, right?
There was a rumor that a coach was looking to get $7mil a year contract. If that's Berube I would definitely walk away.
That's RBA
The full quote. IMO it's not nearly as bad as the snippets on Twitter make it sound ---- "I do think they went pretty far down the road with Craig Berube and weather it was because-I've seen some reports that Berube felt there were better setups elsewhere. I do think there was some financial question about it. Berube is in a higher stratosphere. And I always want to be careful with this kind of stuff because it doesn't necessarily mean um-Sometimes that get's warped in certain directions and I'm not always comfortable with it. But I think that Berube, and quite rightly, everybody is more than welcome to decide what their worth is and Berube is in a stratosphere where, um, you know, the Senators just felt that there-I just think that they felt there was a better option or jut a situation where it didn't make sense for them. They're the ones that should explain it. But I do think that they were interested and I do think they went pretty far down the path." ---- Dude knows that MSLE will pay him handsomely because the Leafs are the most profitable team in the league. Did he use that as leverage in his other interviews and over-value himself? Seems possible.
Those snippets are removing the nonsense, nothing words that Friedman spewed in-between saying they went far down the road and that he thinks money was a factor. Everything else is bafflegab in that quote.
And fans are going completely batshit insane accusing Andlauer of being Melnyk 2.0 after one hire. Hockey is a business and businesses don’t want to overpay for things they don’t have to. This could very easily be a case of Berube over-valuing himself in the negotiations and the Sens not believing he’s worth what he says he is. The Sens are still a small market team. They still have a smaller profit margin than the Leafs or Rangers or other big market teams. They still have to be budget conscious.
Don't give a crap about any of that. I'm talking about his quote and between the bullshit, Friedman definitely says Berube wasn't his due to money. And Kypreos is saying the same thing,]. I don't care about anything else right now.
Lol there's budget conscious and there's hiring the cheapest coach available. Best in third class! As a fan, I don't give a crap about the budget of the team. That's not our problem. Don't give us empty platitudes and act like you're going to do whatever it takes to win.
So Michael Andlauer is just Melnyk in disguise. [insert scooby doo mask reveal meme here]
Melnyk was a Leaf fan, Andlauer a Habs fan. Only makes sense
Shaggy: Like, jeez Scoob, how did Velma know it was him? Velma: Simple, Shaggy. Any other team with talent like this would've made the playoffs, which led me to deduce that the GM wasn't who he claimed to be!
Nah, Melnyk was way way *waaay* worse in every way possible.
Time will tell.
He's a Habs mole.
What's worse? 1) Going far down the road with Berube, flinching and not wanting to actually pay for a Stanley Cup winning coach, and having him potentially land with the Leafs. 2) After an "exhaustive" search coming to the conclusion Travis Green is your best candidate, influenced by him fitting the budget, and have him leverage a 4-year deal out of you. Poor Sens fans.
Maybe Berube wants to coach the Jerts! Jerts' ownership does of a bit of money. Ah, they'll just promote Arnel.
His staff will be interns (unpaid)
If I were an NHL coach that had options I’d be leery of taking the job in Ottawa too.
Apropos of nothing in particular, Berube's nickname in our hockey pool eons ago was "Shoop." As in, "I'm in tatters / Shoop, Berube, I've been shattered, shattered."
lmao I thought this new owner was going to spend $$
switch pretty cool
Leafs about to give him all da cash!
AKA Berube waiting for that sweet sweet Toronto money
Could be New Jersey too. They are also big spenders from what I've heard
Please come to LA instead...
Eugene lives on
Toronto it is!
Poverty franchise