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migsahoy

what do they have in the waters in florida


callmejohndy

Defenitely better watter than Galveston’s


Jabronius_Maximus

Dirty ass water...gotta wear shoes to the beach


[deleted]

Say it again Chuck? 😂


Jabronius_Maximus

We're not even gonna send em to Cancun, drive ya ass down to Galveston 😅


Prize_Efficiency_869

Waiting for Chuck and shaq to get some interviews in the nhl on tnt.


callmejohndy

Too bad ESPN has the US rights to the Finals this year, otherwise they for sure will make an appearance


roberttylerlee

Dirty water’s our thing


Hoardzunit

Better water than Walkerton.


Ghost_Pains

Bro Galveston can’t even be called a beach. That’s a treatment plant with sand.


nikesoccer01

Galveston is 5 hours away from Dallas


hanyou007

Gators, manatees, venomous snakes, amoebas, snapping turtles, catfish, and the occasional drunk skinny dipping redneck


theNightblade

Mama says alligators is so angry because dey got all dem teef and no toofbrush


Mothers_spaghetti

No state income tax


JoeSchmoe93

Meth


Jon_Snows_mother

Bath salts


transferStudent2018

Tom Brady moved to Florida in 2020.


paradoxofchoice

Canadians, New Yorkers, New Englanders and Russians.


CarRamRob

That’s a Pretty good group at hockey too


GoAvsGo

Tax lawyers 😭


SnapShotFromTheSlot

jet skis


Swag92

Phosphate mine runoff and red tide


TheBigKevbowski

Low income tax 


Commercial-Set3527

No income tax


DeFex

Brawndo!


Dr_Marxist

gary bettman he doesn't like to travel


Bex1218

Gators.


Glass_of_Pork_Soda

Gatorade


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Glass_of_Pork_Soda

I blame television


proxmoxroxmysoxoff

Low taxes


cha-cha_dancer

book bans


Afitz93

No income tax


j_la

The water is too hot to drink


ScuderiaEnzo

Washed up Colombian bam bam


DDSloan96

Meth


Constant-Squirrel555

Kroc


SanaMinatozaki9

Salt


ignoramus_x

Lead


ownerwelcome123

No state income tax.


hnglmkrnglbrry

No taxes, cocaine, yearlong sunshine, and women in bikinis.


OhMilla

Gary Bettman


Mikeismyike

No income taxes anyways


shreddy99

Cap circumvention via lower income tax rates.


VegasKL

That's not cap circumvention. It is an advantage, but it's not circumvention.  And many states have carve outs from their no-income taxes just for sports athletes. Plus, they pay taxes to the states they travel to. So it's not like they're instantly saving ~25% on their salary.


Time_H00die

Plus it’s not like the FL teams, Dallas, or Nashville can afford to pay an army of staffers like Toronto. Players also have more access to endorsement deals in Canada


mawhii

It’s not frozen, that fact alone is an attractant lol


Narrow--Mango

What we dont have is that NYC bagel water that makes all these Rags fans as soft as lox cream cheese.


SkyGrey999

https://preview.redd.it/ruyn2ntmp24d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bfc15343199924afa92d4a1e36af781f381fc60


kermitthefrog57

I hate them a lot less


meatbulbz2

well fuck you too, buddy!


VegasKL

It's good to be hated, it normally means you did really good for an extended period of time.   Well, or you covered up a sexual assault and then continued to make tonedeaf PR moves afterwards. That one is the not so good variety.


QuotidianFloridian

How?? The Panthers literally follow the Trump strategy of committing so many crimes that they can't possibly call them all.


kermitthefrog57

Hate Kucherov and have had a ton of bad experiences with Lightning fans


szboy422

As you should.


callmejohndy

Florida is one hell of a drug!


Cheesy_Pita_Parker

Fuck me up Florida?


ghost_curse123

Take me to Florida!!! -Edmonton/Dallas rn


jinx737x

I've got some regrets, I'll bury them in Florida


bistroexpress

Well if it's Dallas then they go to Dallas lol


ghost_curse123

Legit thought that Florida was ahead of Dallas in the regular season standings for some reason


bistroexpress

They were all kinda close there at the end. Dallas was a point behind the Rags and florida was 5th, 3 points back of Dallas.


Rice-Is-Nice123

3 more years to go until they catch the Oilers/Flames when they did it for Alberta from 1983 to 1990 (Oilers '83, '84, '85, '87, '88, '90; Flames in '86, '89). Two great teams in TBL and Florida over the past few years.


mattcojo2

The real state of hockey Play a stadium series game in Miami or Tampa you cowards


elbenji

honestly a january game in Miami would be pretty nice if they could get that ice they do at Santa's Enchanted Forest


brewre_26

I’ve been places that have outdoor rinks in Florida in December/January. Maybe if they played at night it would be possibly. Our winters can be in the 80s sometimes tho so I don’t know how feasible it is.


elbenji

I think it would have to be on a crisp January. Like the ones that get in the 30s. Like they'd have to plan around a cold front.


flyinchipmunk5

Just go to Pensacola. One year it was 10 degrees for like 2 days


elbenji

that's probably the best place. Or Tally


m1nhuh

What if they install that mock ice that players use in the summer? It mimics ice without the need for a Zamboni.


elbenji

yeah that's what they use at Santa's!


RunningSouthOnLSD

You bastards


freestateofflorida

Jacksonville wouldn’t be a bad place for it in the winter.


DariusIV

Yeah, Jacksonville actually does get cold. People forget that Florida is long af, It's about 6 hour drive from Jax to Miami. The climate is about as different as going from Virginia to New York.


Blutroyale-_-

If they did it in Jacksonville at the Jags stadium, it would be cold enough... i also live in Jacksonville, and it would save me a drive.


ScuderiaEnzo

🎵 SAAANTAAAS ENCHANTEED FOORREEESSST 🎵


elbenji

rides, fun and so much more!


Shirt_Ninja

🎵at Tropical Park on Palmetto and Bird Road🎵


jyepes22

I don’t think there’s a way to pull it off but I want a winter classic at Ray Jay against the Panthers so bad


TerasVector02

Four of those at the expense of New York!


Narrow--Mango

Im sick of those NYC transplants moving down here at telling me how great it was back in NYC. Guess they cant make it anywhere.


juventinn1897

People from NYC have no idea how miserable they are to be around


insert-originality

No we’re aware and it’s on purpose.


juventinn1897

I'm not talking about poor NYCers who can't leave the city, like you No one cares about your need to make each other miserable


vaports

2 for each of them really sharing the love evenly


Enjoyer_of_Cake

NC getting in on this really making sure the transplants feel at home too.


OlliMaattaIsA2xChamp

You love to see it.


arise_chicken

:(


ianisms10

I will never know happiness.


ubcthrowaway-01

Neither will the Rangers A win is a win


ianisms10

I can take eternal misery as long as they're in the same boat. If I can't be happy, neither can they. That said, it'd be nice to see a Cup in my lifetime, although maybe a Canucks fan isn't someone I should say that to.


ubcthrowaway-01

The entirety of Canada stands with you


mawhii

Turns out there is indeed some quit in New York


jazzmaster1992

"No Quit in New York" should be changed to "Can't Have Shit in New York"


ScrewOff_

~~Canada’s~~ Florida’s sport


gletschertor

Bettman came in his pants


snakebite654

How can global warming be real when the best hockey teams are in Florida? There shouldn't be any ice there!?


hanyou007

Really wish these free loading north teams would pick up their games. We having to carry this sport right now.


Sarcastic__

The East runs through Florida


Number333

Imagine telling hockey fans that back in 1993 for the next 30 years Florida would have more Stanley Cup wins than the entire country combined lmao


LeeroyTC

Imagine telling them California would have 3, Florida would have 3+, Texas would have 1, Carolina would have 1, Nevada (!) would have 1...


avalanche95

Also telling them Colorado would have 3 would be a trip.


Bahamas_is_relevant

“The Nordiques will win three cups!” “YAY!” “After moving away from Quebec!” “BOO!”


bringbackdavebabych

Gary Bettman with just a raging erection reading this


BillThePsycho

California has 3 and 3 teams Which means each team has one Right guys? …Right? ಥ_ಥ


bistroexpress

This can't be worded correctly


elbenji

I think that's part of the fun


oatmealparty

>for the next 30 years Florida would have more Stanley Cup wins than the entire country combined lmao Are you using that new Terrence Howard math?


Patrick2701

Beaches and no state tax have its benefits


KingKnux

The turnpike will get ya tho


Psychological_Arm206

Florida has 0 Stanley cup wins in that time. Tampa bay has some though


elbenji

*The State of


P33KO

Who’s gonna tell him


Number333

I'ma come back to this comment in 3 weeks.


Halyndon

Since the start of 2020, Florida sports teams have made: - 5 Stanley Cup Finals - 2 NBA Finals - 1 Super Bowl - 1 World Series Florida is the new Boston.


Carp3l

Man… I’m starting to realize why we got so much hate


Brookie069

Tom Brady is inevitable, he is apart of both Boston and Florida sports domination lol.


flyinchipmunk5

Makes sense, considering we get a lot of transplants from the Boston area.


Krazzem

bruh. Meanwhile we only have teams in two major sports, and one (canucks) was complete doodoo for 10 years while the other (whitecaps) is nearly unwatchable with a boring-ass style and just being ass in general. I'm jelly even if I love the boys we have now.


Sss00099

Yeah I guess, but Tampa is a 4+ hour drive away from Miami (Heat: 2 Finals, 2 losses), and Sunrise/Fort Lauderdale (2 Finals, 1 loss, 1 TBD). Tampa has all the wins, down here in South FL it’s been a great time having all these Finals appearances, but it’s all been losses. This team really feels like our best shot to get a Championship and it’s going to absolutely suck if it doesn’t happen again.


PassableGatsby

All our hockey is now belong to Florida.


Commercial-Set3527

They have more Ontario born players than the leafs do...


STLBooze3

The east runs through Florida? And a better question; Florida is a hockey state?! Safe to say, yes.


elbenji

it is now


Level_Network_7733

Gotta wait for the ratings and viewer numbers to know that. Anytime Florida is there, the numbers drop dramatically. Last year was a joke for viewers vs other years with better hockey markets. 


Meanie_Cream_Cake

Well if they don't win this year, it's going to hurt a lot more than last year.


Level_Network_7733

I hope the panthers get swept.


MrBoomf

I hope it does


[deleted]

They've been getting away with a lot of dirty shit. I expect it to continue in the finals but I hope I'm wrong


KILLER_IF

And 8 of the last 10 East Finals. In the last decade, only 2017 and 2019 didn’t feature a Florida team in the East Finals.


pisowiec

4 out of 5 times they beat a New York team in the ECF.


toolschism

I don't think Tampa has ever lost to a NY team in the playoffs. Although jersey has knocked us out twice, the last time being in 07 so not sure if that counts or not.


jkman61494

The Atlantic Division is just absoultely insane and on another level in the East. Florida..Tampa..Boston... they just impose their will that any Metro team can't deal with


macbowes

What nice weather, and no state tax will do to a mofo.


Level_Network_7733

Anytime I bring up the tax thing I get downvoted. It’s a real thing. More money in their pockets compared to other teams with crazy high taxes like Mass or NY 


DariusIV

People also forget that many Hockey player like playing in a "non-hockey" market. You can get paid like a celebrity, but don't have to deal with a lot of the worst parts of sports superstardom. No one at the Grocery store is going to yell at you for screwing up the game last night. The waitress might recognize you at dinner and be aware you're some sports big shot, but she isn't going to try to talk shop with you when you just want to get a dinner with your family. If you lose, you just lose, instead of being subjected to the 24/7 sports new cycle crucifying you for weeks. The Miami media market goes "Oh well that sucks, now for the weather". You can live and breathe hockey with your team, but not have to engage in the near human sacrifice level that markets like Toronto/New York torment their stars with. Let be honest, some northern/Canadian hockey fans can be fucking obnoxious.


spurredoil

The image of Adam Larsson looking defeated after being put on trial by the Edmonton media for daring to be on the other end of the Taylor Hall trade will forever be stuck in my head when thinking about how brutal the fans/media can be.


jackasspenguin

All those posts about playing on frozen lakes in the mountains but how cool would it be to play on a frozen mangrove swamp


elbenji

Santa's used to have a rink


ptd163

Florida has come and so has Bettman.


Ok-Plane2178

God bless our lord gary. may the salary cap never rise to keep southern teams competetive


CosmoJones07

4 out of those 5 were after beating a New York team in the CF too. Crazy.


iceman1231

Something something no state tax


veryworthythor

Bettman is going to relocate the next team to Jacksonville. Jacksonville Senators?


JanGuillosThrowaway

We'll have to rename the Atlantic division the Swamp division. Looking forward to seeing Baton Rouge Red Sticks


DariusIV

Every time a Florida team wins the Stanley cup, a Canadian team should have to relocate to the deep south. They can get them back by winning the cup, time for some tough love Canada.


Blutroyale-_-

As someone who lives in Jacksonville, i would be happy.


DariusIV

I'm convinced Hockey would do really well Jacksonville. It's grown by like half a million since they got the Jags. It's not a small market anymore, relatively to a lot of place that have hockey teams.


Blutroyale-_-

We have an Echl team, the Icemen and we aparently have the largest crowds of any other team in the leauge (I'm a season ticket holder).


DariusIV

The Jumbo shrimp also pull super well. People are hungry for top tier professional sports that isn't the Jags. Next league to put a team in Jax is gonna make bank.


Blutroyale-_-

Well, the city just put up 600mil to help build a roof for that shit team, and it's very, very disappointing. The city could do a lot better than pour money into the Jags.


DariusIV

We could have a nice 20k seat arena downtown that gets used more than 8 times a year plus a college bowl for that money. Frustrating.


hairformen

GET RID OF FLORIDA TEAMS


Zzzonkedx

But I was told hockey doesn't work in Florida!


Nickp1991

The state of Florida runs the eastern conference


ProtoMan3

The last non Floridian eastern team to make the finals was Montreal in 2021…even they fell victim to a Florida team 


friskyjude

These damn non-traditional markets


allergic_to_mustard

fucking swamp hicks


Hoardzunit

Everyone is shitting on the LTIR loophole. But no state taxes is a bigger fucking cheat code than any LTIR loophole. It's able to make good players sign for dirt cheap.


Level_Network_7733

I’ve said this before. It’s a huge advantage. States with no tax should have lower caps. 


toolschism

Pretty amusing comment coming from a fan of a team that's known for having players take huge pay cuts to play there..


Level_Network_7733

You almost make it sound like the players actually WANT to play in Boston. Oh no. You sure got me.  Regardless of how you feel, the point I make is a real one. Fuck the entire state of Florida while I’m at it 🤷‍♂️


PhilyJ

The cup runs through florida?


bbkray

I mean everyone knows it's because there isn't any income tax... Way easier to sign free agents and get guys to stay for less money. It was only a matter of time.


Hurock

How's the betting industry in Florida?


Jitterjumper13

They should have a Winter classic and a Snowbird game down south. A later outdoor game, lighter jerseys with a tropical theme.


benificialart

Kinda like the World Series in Texas 


Wagglebagga

Also, 20 years ago it was Calgary vs Tampa in the final. It could be an Edmonton vs Florida final. Florida vs Alberta again, 20 years later.


ilikehockeyandguitar

No state tax and nice weather.


esports_consultant

someone shop bettmans face on randy marsh


ChaosWarrior95

Same problem baseball is having :) Every year since 2019 the World Series has had games played in Texas (yes, even the 2020 one, it was played in Texas on a neutral field).


LeoFireGod

No state income tax really makes a difference. Realistically gets you an extra 4-6 mil in cap space to work with. Which makes a difference.


No_Cardiologist_5117

Florida own hockey and I’m all here for it


syd_cash

I guess hockey is a Southern sport


MOSondrums

How can you not say the NHL is rigged? There is so much incentive to have hockey be popular in the state and the writing is on the wall with who we see make the finals in the east every year.


cubchu75

Get good


Canon_In_E

Or maybe they have had good teams?


MorePower7

The Florida Panthers made their debut under Bettman's tenure. He'll want to add another Sunbelt team Stanley Cup to his resume. It's over for the Oilers if they make it to the Finals.


ductulator96

I swear to God that any team that gets success, people will find an excuse to cite as part of a Bettman conspiracy to make money. Big market gets success? Obviously Bettman rigged it for ratings. Small market gets success? Obviously Bettman rigged it to build market share.


mill_about_smartly

Traditional hockey city? Rigged for ratings New/Sunbelt teams? Rigged for new ratings The man is an incompetent commissioner, how do people think he's harboring a whole-ass conspiracy


ClassicMach

A mid level market that has credibility as a hockey market but you wouldn't really call them traditional? buddy you better believe that's rigged for ratings.


Canon_In_E

Bettman is not bad at his job. If he was, the owners would get rid of him.


JanGuillosThrowaway

Only team Bettman would never rig it for is Winnipeg smh


Bahamas_is_relevant

Too many people don’t believe in Hanlon’s razor.


Bahamas_is_relevant

Part of why I love being a sun belt fan is meltdowns like this.


Ok-Plane2178

100% agree with you man. As usual reddit is middle of the IQ curve folks who refuse to believe that a large corporation could be compromised to try and make more money


CottonmouthJohn

State tax (or lack thereof) means they should be in the Final every year until the loophole is addressed. Or, their GMs should be fired. That simple.


DoctorTheWho

The Kraken, Stars, Golden Knights and Predators also have no state income tax.


toolschism

Shhh shhh you're disrupting his narrative. We don't need facts here.


cubchu75

California literally has the worst taxes and the kings have won a couple cups recently. Stfu


ClassicMach

They were battling at the top of the mountain with an Illinois team lmao