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electricnux

Vegas when there’s a new big name on the market https://preview.redd.it/t87d85yyb76d1.jpeg?width=702&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c1d2dc0cfdac6d04c2306b55b37669fa5ca8239


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haggislasagne

Don't be sad, 6x11 ain't bad...


MagicMushroomFungi

You took the words right out of my mouth.


Pouletchien

The Salary Cap is a concept. Purely theoretical


Shiny_Mew76

If CapFriendly doesn’t exist, neither does the Cap itself!


eburton555

Only ones who know the truth are the Capitols and maybe the league. Just gotta grease the Capitols and it’s all gravy for Vegas.


redditingrobot

Vegas: “Do not try and bend the Cap—that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.” Every Other GM: “What truth?” Vegas: “There is no Cap.”


ThockfromTheTopRope

Bend the Cup? Can do! - Aube-Kubel


SirZapdos

More of a guideline than an actual rule


PayneTrain181999

Aye, that be true!


Cockalorum

what *IS* a salary cap anyway? Some kind of expensive hat?


DosTruth

/takes off celery hat. Yeah. Salary cap. That’s what I heard all along.


loewe67

Genius move by Leonsis. Buys CapFriendly, takes it away from everyone, and suddenly the salary cap is no more.


PierreMcGuiresHair

You just wait: they'll find a way to get Matthews too


Starsky686

Bettman kicked the coyotes (his pet franchise) out of Arizona so that Mathew’s wouldn’t go anywhere. Or wait maybe it was so he could go to Vegas 😳


laxintx

Utah from the top rope!


PayneTrain181999

I feel like they should make an offer for Marner. They have so many young prospects and picks that they could easily afford him, give him the money he wants, and put him next to Keller.


lbiggy

It's fiction. We made it up. It never happened.


mustachiolong

I mean it’s safe to say Vegas is in on literally everything. They are the embodiment of an agent of chaos in the NHL.


PayneTrain181999

They see a new shiny toy on the market and they must have it, picks and prospects be damned. They really want to stay stacked with big flashy names and contend for as long as possible. Quintessential Las Vegas style.


Prize_Efficiency_869

I mean it has worked out well for them. More teams should be like Vegas, go for the win no matter the cost. Again the ltir shit was within the rules they didn’t break it. Vegas attitude is why they are still contending despite a revolving door of players on the roster. Honestly tho marner to Vegas would be insane and actually break thr league


rowdywp

I agree I like that our team swings for the fences every year, but I'm not sure that losing Theodore, Marchessault and Thompson for Marner makes us a better team.


PayneTrain181999

Marner should in theory match the number of points both those skaters get combined, and you can get a goalie this summer.


rowdywp

I don't know about that. Marchy and Theodore had 111 points combined last year with Theo only playing 47 games. Plus a big chunk of Marners points are assists to the best goal scorer in the league, I think he'd have a drop off on points especially since we're losing our best goal scorer.


itsadoubledion

He's had the same rate of points playing with Tavares instead of Matthews, so could most likely do well with any decent scorer. Vegas is much more offence by committee than the Leafs though so would be interesting to see


Wabbit_Wampage

I like those players, though. :(


Prize_Efficiency_869

I mean it is Vegas they are the definition of a ruthless mob boss who does the move because it is strictly business not personal. Forget mcdavid or makar or kuch or Igor the biggest game changer in the league right are the Vegas golden knight’s management.


Ikea_desklamp

How the fuck do they even have any picks or prospects left at this point?


itsadoubledion

They get 7 more to trade away each year, and can trade future ones if that doesn't cut it. No need for picks when you can get the players you want anyway


chemicalxv

And what use does Toronto have for any of those anyways? They're in win-now mode and need contributors.


caldo4

And they won the cup doing it lol seems like more teams should copy them


themikeshow

Or the Rangers the 1990s and early 2000s


Prison-Date-Mike

I swear to god Vegas...


SuzukiSwift17

If they trade for him today what injury does Mark Stone immediately sustain that has about a 46 week timeline?


Prison-Date-Mike

Seasonal affective disorder


PierreMcGuiresHair

Seasonal allergies


iggyfenton

He’s allergic to the regular season.


dolphin_spit

mitch’s allergies flare up as soon as the playoffs start


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JarvisFunk

Equipment allergies


Your_Asthma

Well... Hossa actually had/has that. That's why he had to retire.


westcoastbias

Vegas medical staff probably have Hossa locked in their facility and are sequencing his DNA to give Stone an allergy to his gear too


TheAsian1nvasion

Could you imagine if Vegas put someone in player assistance only for them to return for the playoffs? I wouldn’t put it past them but holy shit that would be insane.


rowdywp

Marchessault gets back on Instagram and has to go to player assistance for rageaholics


emblah

Marchy about to go play for Toronto if we’re in on Marner somehow.


rowdywp

Marchy having to deal with Toronto media/fans wouldn't end well.


smash8890

It would be entertaining tho


rowdywp

There would be pasta here for decades


ghost_curse123

I personally would love to see Marchessault tell Steve Simmons to go suck on his mummies titties


rowdywp

Steve Simmons your dog is as ugly as you!


Aromatic-Cup-2116

“Shut the fuck lil dick and go suck on your mummy’s titties and stop wasting my time.” Marchessault to the Toronto media every day.


AggravatingBill9948

Seasonal ineffective disorder 


QuantumCapelin

The regular season


sicsche

That would be very sad


alinc114

He lost his smile


PayneTrain181999

So Marner will be the next head of NXT?


EvangelionOG

"YOU DONT HAVE THE INSIDES TO SCORE GOALS!"


Fallen-Omega

I understand that reference 


DisgruntledAardvark

I'm gonna go with being turned into a newt.


SokkasBoomerang3

His spleen has pollen allergies and went to sleep after taking benadryl, so he’ll be out from March to May.


Tippacanoe

Lumbago


jon-in-tha-hood

Count Choculitis


DishwasherFromSurrey

Sausage fingers


taco_the_town

Anal fissures... someone has it...


misfittroy

Or watch, he'll be traded to Toronto but then retire halfway through the season


Mac_Gold

Gingivitis


theclansman22

Gestational diabetes?


TheAnalogKid18

They'll get him addicted to coke and then send him to Player's Assistance for the entire season UNTIL game 82, where Marner will go down with a lower body injury (i/e the prostitute they pay to "take care of him" takes care of him a little well and his dick gets rubbed raw). That's Vegas baby.


SmoothPinecone

I mean, would they trade Stone in this instance? Normally trading a cup winning captain would be odd, but it's Vegas we're talking about. How long does Vegas want to keep dealing with an injury riddle Stone that can't stay healthy? Especially if there are rumours swirling about the LTIR changing in the next CBA. Would Vegas trade Stone (and maybe more?) for Marner?


DarthFarris

He has a NMC. So he’s not going anywhere (unless he wants to, which he probably wouldn’t)


somehockeyfan

Coma. He could wake up at any moment.


nottakingpart

I remember when PK Subban gave him micro fractures, so I vote for that.


NotClayMerritt

Mark Stone and that darn hip/leg/arm/knee/foot/blot clots


NegotiationOk5036

Ruptured gizzard


JasonPlattMusic34

Maybe they’re thinking if Cap Friendly isn’t around anymore no one will bother to check how over the cap they are 😂😛


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FL_Sports_Fan

Yeah, but watch Vegas make a man out of him and he becomes an elite playoff performer.


scarbutt11

Will they defeat the Huns after?


Riadiculous

🎵 *Let's get down to business* 🎵


nulspace

with all the strength of a raging fire


Every-Slice59

He'll sign for longer term, less money and perform better. It is the way.


AltaVistaYourInquiry

Marner? Less money? Lol


Every-Slice59

He'll do it for anyone but the leafs.


PayneTrain181999

Paul Marner will not allow it.


Cinnamon_Shops

Going from Keefe to Cassidy will be an insane culture shock for him. Although I guess that’s true with Berube, too.


WearingComb1050

Wasn’t Jack Eichel a locker room cancer before Cassidy ?


DontPanic_4242

Honestly the league is better off with a team that makes moves like Vegas in it. They make the trade market way more entertaining to follow, even when the end up playing the villain by getting creative with LTIR.


thedeepfake

We don’t want this dude


ButWhatIfItsNotTrue

This feels like stating the obvious. It's Vegas and a blue-chip talent on the trading block, I don't think they know any other way.


Mac_Gold

They’ll just flip their last couple first round picks and a high salary player and voila


PayneTrain181999

It’s an addiction at this point, and they make these big flashy moves on a regular basis, it’s a wonder why other teams have never tried it. It took 6 years but it got them a Cup.


rewind2482

Teams think it’s worse to do something big and flashy that fails than to do nothing and fail


MethodMan_

Yea GMs don’t wanna speedrun to getting fired


YouCanFucough

Cowards


82hky82

Holy Shit haha


UnhealthyCheesecake

Never a dull moment with the Vegas Golden Knights lmao


Zodiac33

I mean yes Vegas being Vegas and in on every blockbuster, but of the teams who have D to sell for him, it sort of makes sense.


antrage

Marner suddenly hit with a season long injury


BitterDecoction

Unfortunately for Vegas, it’s better for them if Marner is injured during the playoffs and healthy during the season.


BurnTheBoats21

When Maner is traded to another team, his soul will be freed and he will be a playoff superstar and i will be happy for him


UnhealthyCheesecake

Would the city of Toronto survive if Marner wins the Cup his first year in Vegas?


FL_Sports_Fan

It would happen with a Vegas vs Toronto final culminating with Marner winning the Conn Smythe and lifting the cup in Scotia Bank Arena. The ensuing riot would be quite the spectacle.


FlaxbopFleetfoot

I'm not a Leafs fan and even I know Leafs fans would give their first born child to even be in the SCF, because at least that means the team has made progress.


97jumbo

The Leafs literally made a feature-length movie about the 1993 team when they returned to the conference finals for the first time in a while. A finals run would be treated like six cups right now. A cup like twenty cups


FL_Sports_Fan

Yeah you’re right. There’s a part of me that does hope they finally get there. The Leafs faithful deserve that.


CarterBennett

Or he’ll be the next Gaudreau where we barely hear about the guy. I’m very curious.


apatheticboy

Johnny went to one of the worst teams in the league. If Mitch goes to Vegas he’d likely play with Eichel and Hertl. That’s a filthy line.


logs28

Ok hear me out - Bring Marner in - Stone's lacerated spleen flares up beginning of season - Marner carries regular season, puts Knights in a better seed as Stone said - Marner gets migranes in Feb, goes on LTIR, doesn't come back - Vegas trades for Konecny, whatever other big pending UFAs there are next year - Stone comes back for game 1 - Lose to Stars in first round


noahml

I approve this.


thedeepfake

Had me in the first 99%.


briandeli99

I know this is a constant trope, but isn't Marner nearly a PPG player in the playoffs?


39MUsTanGs

He racks up points in games 1-4 but freezes up in games 5-7


sroberts12

A particularly bad case of the shambles


ChenWei91

Stone's gonna have a sudden case of boneitis.


rodimus117

This kind of thing would be impossible to pull with a guy like Benn because we know he doesn’t go down.


SpaceCricket

God damnit take your upvote


TheGreatJizzo

He has 69 upvotes right now. I would upvote it, but I can't.


ehehe

Benn is licking his lips at this slippery comment


drowsylacuna

That's the only thing he licks.


DesertFart

His one regret will be not getting cured for boneitis


CapriciousScamp

Dun dun dun duh duh duh dundudndu


NovaCanuck

Kelly McCrimmon: "Dont you worry about blank, let me worry about blank"


theclansman22

I think they are calling TBD right now, but I suspect it will be graph versus host when he tries to get hair plugs.


GaryOakRobotron

What kinda gymnastics will they have to do in order to make this work? There's no way Toronto will want to retain salary.


EarthWarping

Theodore (who they probably won't keep in the long run) + a forward


Yamcha_is_dead

Gonna be something like Theodore + Thompson + Dorofeyev for Marner.


sroberts12

Sign me up


bootygoon2

I think I’d cry tears of joy if they got a return like that for Marner. Top pairing d-man, a goalie who has shown some great upside (while making close to minimum for another year) plus a young forward coming off a .5 PPG pace in his first real NHL season. I’d eat at Boston Pizza for a year straight if Treliving pulled that off


Peechez

rip to your body


The_Quackening

worth it


Young2k04

I honestly like it for both sides


scottyfoxy

You know, I don't hate this as long as Korzack is ready to make the jump. I'd rather Roy than Doro so that Roy has a chance to grow tbh. That's just me being picky though.


Baga97_YT

I'll personally piggyback Marner all the way to Vegas if we can get this return


Less-Ad-1327

Feels heavy from Vegas for me, but I guess it's what Theodre and thompson are seen as. I view theodre as a legit #1d and Thompson is a bonafide starter. But I guess if you see Theodre only as a good top 4 and Thompson as a 1b it's fair. It would make the Leafs a much more well rounded team forsure.


Irrah

Honestly Theodore is def a 1D but the way Vegas acquires players they can have Hanafin as 1D to replace him and then cycle him out in a few years as well.


ELB95

The problem with Theodore is Vegas decided to go trade for Hanifin, sign him to an extension, then give him Theodore’s spot on PP1 almost immediately. With only one year left on his deal it’s very likely they wouldn’t be able to extend him afterwards. I imagine Leafs would retain a bit on Marner for next season to balance the cap a bit more, and then the Leafs would have the money to extend Theodore afterwards. And Vegas then hopes that either Marner takes less or Stone decides to retire and then they have the space for Mitch regardless.


StylishApe

I got bad news for Vegas if they think Marner is gonna take less.


Sahil910

Vegas way overpaying for a guy wanting to be paid like hes mcdavid


Analogmon

For a year? Idk man I would.


GaryOakRobotron

I could be completely wrong here, but Toronto feels like it's in "win now" mode, which means they'd want every dollar of their cap to go into active players. It'd take a crazy scenario for them to feel like they're coming out ahead while retaining a chunk of Marner's salary.


BurnTheBoats21

Retaining a chunk of marner's salary wouldn't be that great, but retaining something for a worthwhile return wouldn't be the end of the world. At the end of the day, it is a bargaining chip like any other asset. The nightmare scenario which is very possible is that he walks for nothing and next year does feel like a mini retool (if you can call it that) with the amount that is coming off the books after 2025. We have traded our futures and 1st round picks for win now assets for the greater part of a decade and its an opportunity to bolster the farm a bit.


HappyInstruction3678

Vegas turned "Salary Cap Off" before starting Chel.


qwnzr

its funny because if you keep the Cap on it basically takes all of the contracts on the team and multiplies them by 0.8 to stay under the cap.


drowsylacuna

So they get Marner for the regular season, and then switch him out for Mark Stone in the playoffs?


Dubsified

They have found the loophole


PostwarNeptune

They're the only 2 wingers in the league who've been nominated for the Selke since 2011-12. So..this kind of works!


McGrevin

Imagine how much more exciting the league would be if there were more teams like Vegas that are seemingly in on every star player trade


EconMan

So you want star players to be traded more "diversely", instead of "just" to Vegas?


snugglebandit

Just to Vegas sounds good


unequalsarcasm

Every team should realistically look into it at the least. Vegas management is far from inept so of course they would be interested.


Shiny_Mew76

Vegas is the living version of everyone’s NHL GM Mode saves.


turk_turklton

At this point it's just comical and while I'm a big fuck the knights guy, I'm fucking for it. Let's see what the hell they do to pull that off.


PuckNutty

All these LTIR jokes, but let's face it, if there's one team that will straight up dump Mark Stone or Alex Pietrangelo, it's the Knights.


Ghostronic

I love Stone but he hasn't contributed in the regular season in a meaningful way in a while and this last playoff just wasn't himself. I'd rather have a 100% Marner than a 50-75% Stone


rowdywp

Yep. Sucks cause before the spleen he was having a great season, would have been in the running for a selke nomination. Still finished tied for 20 in takeaways playing a little over half the season right at ppg.


snugglebandit

He was definitely still injured.


Shem_Penman

I 100% expect Marner will be a playoff beast for whatever team he gets traded to. That said, I do think it's time for the Leafs and him to part ways, ideally via trade so we don't lose a superstar for nothing.


Throwaway5497346

Yeah, and even if he does it wasn't working in Toronto. They've run it back so many times, _something_ needs to change.


RadiantVes

i want to see this happen


NatalieDeegan

I want to see the meltdown tbh


jfstompers

If 31 other teams let Vegas do this it's ridiculous


0nlyRevolutions

If someone wants to turn this into a bidding war we won't complain...


lazyniu

Only for Marner to refuse to waive his NMC right


GreatWhiteNorth4

I can hear Stone’s spleen re-rupturing in the distance


Camarama421

I assume a starting point for a deal would look like Marner for Theodore plus another roster player and a prospect/picks? Seems like a decent start, Vegas gets the best overall player, and we reallocate salary to positions where we need more help


necroknight_303

Vegas would also probably send like, Logan Thompson right? Idk what the situation is regarding Woll, but I’d imagine a platoon scenario would be good for Woll transitioning to a full-time roll and it’s a situation Thompson is familiar with


UniformRaspberry2

I keep seeing people online connecting Brossoit to us. But he would obviously be through FA rather than trade. Maybe Thompson gets asked for if Brossoit prices himself out? I dunno.


Boston-Nolan

So is Theodore just not that good anymore? I haven’t been up to date on him, but he want from Vegas undeniable 1D to a trade target? I know Hanifin is really fucking good but shouldn’t Pietrangelo be the one out considering his age.


noor1717

Hanifin took his spots on Vegas so I think he’s expendable. But on the leafs I think he would be their #1 dman or at least #2. I think it would be beneficial for both teams. With stone’s injuries a player like marner would be so good for Vegas on the regular season to help them get in with more ease and rest players like stone to let them come back for the playoffs


Merkkin

Not bad per se, but he went a bit invisible under Cassidy and our d depth has been good enough that we need to make some room. Also hanafin has been a stud, which makes Theo the odd man out with the most value in a trade. Petro also has a full NMC so nothing going to happen unless he wants it.


captnchunky

He has not been invisible. He just hasn’t been scoring. He has been flying under the radar with a ton of assists. Let’s say he gets 7.5x8 next year. VGK can afford it and then when Petro is done we have two top dmen. They should be trading off McNabb and Whitecloud this summer. Korczac can def fill one of those roles and they will need to depend on Hutton to fill the other and hope Cormier can take a step this year. Doing this still allows them to resign Dorofeyev and have around 8.75 million to spend on Marchy/Stephenson/ufa(guentzal, lindholm). Not to mention we keep Thompson and have above average goal tending That roster is way better than giving away Theodore and Thompson for Marner…who doesn’t really fit what we need. Stone and Eichel are both excellent passers. We don’t need another. We need a goal scorer, whether that’s Marchy or someone else like Guentzal.


rowdywp

I agree


Master_Shake23

How could they afford both Marcheseault and Marner, on top of Hertl etc?


dv666

Vegas: *hold my beer*


DarthFarris

Don’t ask, just watch


emblah

Trade will be confirmed after capfriendly goes dark so no one will have any idea what type of financial gymnastics occurred to get it done


Waffeln_Remix

Even if he comes from the Leafs San Jose still has to retain 1/3 of the salary and give us picks.


SayNoToStim

I hope it happens so I don't have to worry about Vegas winning another Cup


lbiggy

He should just come to Vancouver to become a legend like legendary Mats Sundin


Maxpowr9

Snip-snip Marner.


rhodsonr702

Why in the hell would we get rid of Thompson. His contract is such a steal for Vegas especially.


Heatersthebest

He needs a new one following this season, just like Marner.


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Thneed1

Vegas needs a lot more than simply Theodore cap space to be able to sign Marner. Stone AnD Theodore should be enough.


lukaskywalker

We’ll take him…. But only if you break his legs and guarantee he will be ready by playoffs.


Ashamed-Dirt5101

Please make this happen, for the funny!


harleyquinad

Would be a good place for him


migsahoy

just sign marchessault already


Missed_Your_Joke

So what does a potential trade look like? Toronto knows what they got, and despite the memes, Vegas does have to consider not only the cap space for this year, but the raise that Marner (and Pappa Paul) will demand. Treliving isn't going to give him up for anything less than a haul.


greg939

Except when Marner gets injured before the deadline they will want him to stay injured for the playoffs.


AdamAptor

Welp, lemme crack open CapFriendly while I still can and pretend I’m a GM


capsrock02

Water is wet.


LostBeneathMySkin

A lot of media guys want to get clicks in the summer too


UnflushableNug

They can't keep getting away with this...


AVgreencup

Vegas operates a lot like playing Monopoly. You start making your way around the board, landing on properties and buying every one you land on. Eventually you might get both Park Place and Boardwalk, then you'll be set. It works until it doesn't and you're broke


irishguy42

Tired - Vegas is scrambling to fit this under cap while CapFriendly is still around Wired - During me writing this comment, Mark Stone went on LTIR until the 2025 playoffs


Rowdy_Roddy96

I called this far before anyone even thought of this possibility because Vegas are legitimately insane enough to trade for Marner, and I severely doubt that any playwr would decline the chance to play in a market such as Vegas. Seems like a slam dunk for Toronto and Vegas. What just matters is the terms and trade pieces


Griswaldthebeaver

Vegas should totally do this. He's a great playoff performer and will definitely help them win another cup. This is a rock solid move. Ignore my flair.


Erectusnow

I would laugh so hard if they trade for him then turn around and win another cup.