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matt_minderbinder

Carolina fans will lose their minds after hearing that Carolina was willing to meet his demands. That $8 mil x 8 year deal sounded all but signed.


dragons_fire77

It'll be a bummer, but i think all of us had already written him off until yesterday. Just fall back into the darkness, our old friend


PatchesTheGreat1

Jake please. We can’t offer you no income tax but we can offer you high cost of living


tampapat54

The cost of living may suck but Vancouver was by far the most beautiful city I’ve visited in North America


NOT_A_FAT_CHICK

agreed, went on a vacation in Vancouver and it was an incredible time


unfortunatelyidied

I wish I was surrounded by coastal mountains, fjords, and tall stratovolcanos 😭 I wonder if we can move all those to Dallas


Dultsboi

No you’ll get your 20 lane highway on all sides and enjoy it!


Ebolinp

Just one more lane will fix the traffic problems...just one more


Thinkofthewallpaper

Tell me you haven't been to Scranton without telling me you haven't been to Scranton.


xedyu

And more rain


NebraskaAvenue

Flip flops in January


MaximumSamage

It’s fine, he can stay with Michael Buble.


coltonjeffs

Bublé already said guentzel can live with him https://www.reddit.com/r/canucks/s/ibBaieXuiD


SwagFondue

what a weird day it's been


DecentLurker96

> BriseBois indicated Friday that franchise cornerstones Steven Stamkos and Victor Hedman were trending in different directions. Stamkos likely headed to free agency (with agent Don Meehan confirming that being the likely scenario) and Hedman to a contract extension on the first day he is eligible, July 1.


PayneTrain181999

They’re really letting Stamkos go even after all this cap space freed up?


Successful-Storm-533

“indicated friday” now that these deals went through maybe this changes things


Professor_Pajamas

I highly doubt it EDIT: I shouldn't have doubted it apparently


pentaxshooter

I swear to God.


mephnick

Florida tax going to strike again


kiezenz

If Guentzel is looking for an $8M the tax will give us about $150k advantage or something like that


psaepf2009

It depends entirely on who the alternative teams are. If its like California, at 8m aav that's nearly 500k. If it's like Nashville, Vegas, or Dallas there's essentially no difference.


aneditor_

thought it would be way more


CtrlShiftAltDel

Depends how much they offer and if we can top up to make up the difference.


Academic-Salamander7

I would not understand this signing. They don't need more goalscoring? Finishing 5th overall is pretty good.


DB2403

Look at the depth after Kucherov and Point though. Not to mention you may also lose Stamkos and Duclair.


pointertb21

100 percent this. Can’t rely on 144 point seasons from players


pointertb21

We don’t want to have to make kuch repeat last year and want some more depth up front


drowsylacuna

If they still aren't keeping Stamkos maybe we can get him.


NSA_Wade_Wilson

That would be so weird to see


vonTryffel

No depth, Guentzel would really help that 2nd line with Cirelli.


tampapat54

So with Serg out, the possibility exists that not only Guentzel goes to Tampa but Stamkos comes back as well with enough money left for Duke to re-sign. The Atlantic is shaping up to be a blood bath


KILLER_IF

>The Atlantic is shaping up to be a blood bath Uhhhh shaping up???


tampapat54

Assuming a strong Boston, stronger Tampa, Toronto, champion Florida team plus an ascendant Detroit and Ottawa It’s somehow gonna be worse


NSA_Wade_Wilson

You say that like it isn’t a blood bath normally


Scrubosaurus13

I didn’t even consider having money left over for Duke 🤤 that would be a dream scenario come true if we could get all 3.


NatalieDeegan

Shaping up? What’s the last six years been?


19fall91

JJ Moser needs a contract too though


andrewthemexican

It's been a bloodbath for several years. The 2023 TDL arms race was absolutely bonkers.


Fuzzy-Experience-441

This won’t work. Guentzel is asking 8mx8 and Stamkos is likely asking around 5m+ which is already 13m in cap leaving only 3.5m for Duclair who was getting paid 3m and a 6th dman.


tampapat54

I’m assuming Stamkos at 4 which is what the rumors were that he asked for. Leaves 4.5. You ask Duke to take a cut at 2.5, you have 2 for morris


ISurvivedCOVID19

Does Guentzel speak Flordianese yet?


icecreambandit7

Plenty of bath salts here to fix that


MinnWild9

Gotta feel for Canes fans. The Lightning wouldn't be clearing all this space for Guentzel unless they were almost certain they had the opportunity to sign him on the 1st. Which means whatever the problem that's keeping Tulsky and Jake from reaching a deal isn't likely to be resolved.


CtrlShiftAltDel

Gotta believe that Guentzel goes to UFA on Monday at this point. He knows what Carolina is willing to offer and can always fall back on that on the off chance another team can’t beat it. Their reported 8x8 isn’t that hard to beat given that analysts already have him pegged for 9-9.5m as a UFA already.


Jake_Thador

8x8=64 7x9=63 6x9.5=57


Cinnamon_Shops

Tbf we didn’t think him staying was even a possibility until a couple of days ago when it was reported we were making a push. We were trying to trade his rights a week ago. But it definitely sucks ass lol. Hopefully Tulsky has a backup plan.


The_Reddit_Browser

The worst part about it is that it just seems there isn’t something to overcome. Teams willing to give him exactly what he wants and that’s still not enough.


das_racist932

I hope they don’t get Guentzel and lose stamkos


Separate_Pound_753

Lmao jeez.


mylefthandkilledme

We'll back up the brinks truck to Stammer's house


BiscuitsMay

He can now sign both


jonathan_ericsson

How much cap space does TBL have? Can they afford Stammer at ~$4.5M and Guentzel at $8M?


Professor_Pajamas

After the Sergy and Jeannot trades we have just over $16m


nickl630

Yes


thewolfshead

I’m tired boss. 


Sad_Bolt

I rather sign more defenders after last years horrible defense.


pointertb21

Do it JBB, holy fuck would that be an offseason and a half. We’re so back?


Blueberry_1995

No JBB, he's ours


veshpesh

we’ll see.


PantsinmyPants1211

This is fun.


Cheeks_Klapanen

My totally unbiased opinion is that Jake Guentzel deserves every penny he can possibly get and wherever he goes next will hopefully earn him the respect that he deserves beyond just being “guy who played with Crosby”


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Rare-Temporary7602

No, no, it’s cool


cavegrind

I doubt a first round exit to the eventual champion when he had no cap space and one of his main defenders out with injury was putting JBB on the hot seat.


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cavegrind

And the year before it directly attributable to Vasy’s injuries. A case could be made for needing another goalie, but even then he’s been against the cap for 5 years.


transam96

I'd be okay with trying to Johansson or Tomkins as the backup again. Johansson wasn't brought in to start every game for the first two months of the season but he did well enough that we were still in the mix before Vasy came back, which is really what you hope you can get out of your backup.


EZ-C

Just got back from Tampa. Highly over rated. Traffic sucks. Hot, humid. Florida Man.


BanditPixy

Couldn’t handle the Tampa style 😎


Squat1998

I mean, all but the first and last description can be said about Raleigh too…


andrewthemexican

Traffic and humidity is not even close comparing central Florida to NC. Grew up in Orlando as a Lightning fan and now live in Charlotte. Sure this past week+ has been pretty hot, but it's only now like this approaching July Florida is typically like this for 1-2 months, then it's worse, and will be for another 3-4 months. Meanwhile late July/August it's nice enough out in Charlotte to open my car windows in the morning. Couldn't do that until December at the earliest in Orlando.


Squat1998

Fair enough. I just got back to Raleigh after 5 months in Santa Fe New Mexico so I’m a little sensitive right now lol.


andrewthemexican

Yeah that'll do it.


EZ-C

Sure, but Tampa was on another level, esp with traffic.


Squat1998

Fair enough. As a born and raised Raleigh-ite, I wouldn’t want to live in either long term tbh


EZ-C

Florida Man seems to be defensive about their shitty traffic 😂


Sarcastic__

Very spicy as hell now. Gotta think Guentzel is fine waiting 1 more day to see other offers.


BarkMingo

Think he's willing to lose an entire year for 1 more day?


KingInTheFarNorth

Unless Carolina offers him 8y x 9m, because he will make the same money or more on a 7year deal in UFA


Key-Tip-7521

Sergachev traded, Stamkos likely gone, and now the Bolts could go after Guentzel? keeping the window open


Ok-Clock-5459

Stamkos replacement?


iamTHEdiuce

I think in addition to Stammer. Tampa greedy AF and I like it


DivinePotatoe

This 100% now means Guentzel is signing somewhere else and not with tampa lol


Squat1998

Sadly yes. He’s gone


GetzlafMyLawn

Carolina might lose Guentz and Necas. Ouf


Turbulent_System_446

Necas is being forced to stay if they lose Guentzel whether he likes it or not. He’s an RFA unfortunately for him


Cinnamon_Shops

I have a feeling we end up keeping Necas tbh, unless we get a really dynamite trade offer


BarkMingo

We would never "lose" Necas, he's an RFA, we'd get something big for him either way