I think you guys have a real shot. You're not that far from his home in Tampa and a legit cup contender.
The big competition will be NJ. Easy flight back to his family in Toronto and a team that's ready to explode.
Seriously, its impossible to get excited about this trade when we knew what it could cost. I’d personally rather have my captain back in the bay than a slightly better but more expensive player in Guentzel
Idk, unless he is ok with a very favourable deal for the team an analytics GM will be not interested
Tulsky remembers back in the day when we showed that MSL was driving the bus between the two in terms of Corsi
Now Kucherov the MSL in terms of pts
I’m upset with how this has been handled but I choose to wait to pass judgment till this is over. If he signs somewhere else 7+ then it would feel a little better knowing we never stood a chance to keep him. Anything less than six than JBB has to be questioned.
What if he signs for 7+? We realistically never would have been able to keep him in that case and JBB ultimately is tasked with making the TEAM better which he can better do with that cap space.
I'm a Stammer fan like everyone else but if he chooses money over the team (as is his right) then it is what it is.
I love Steve to death he’s obviously our goat but Id also like us to remain competitive if it means we have to avoid overpaying our going on 35 captain that was not good 5 on 5 last season then that’s the way it goes
He is not needed for his level of play. He is needed to be a mentor for the kids. We haven't really had that since Getzlaf retired.
Also he will be great for PP.
Ducks need a scoring winger and some leadership. There's also the Verbeek and Killorn connection.
They can easily afford to pay him more than Tampa can. It's just a question of term
he's been in blue so long that seeing him in red would be off-putting. Orange (ANA) and yellow (NSH) might be slightly better because it matches his hair color-ish
Devils and Detroit make the most sense to me for someone that still has some left in the tank with his skill set. The Bolts quite honestly could still use him the most, but at the price being rumored I can see why they are moving on.
I don't think Guentzel was the answer tho. Not a fan
Raymond plays on the right, not the left. He’s a right handed playmaker who also has a solid shot - which is why Kane has been the perfect role model for him to learn from. Hopefully Stammer could be the same for Cat.
For the uninitiated, what is the longest that this could drag out. Do I need to be prepared to have my heart in my stomach for the next month?
ETA: And so help me, if someone responds with "24 Hours"...
I think since we kept Kane...we're probably not going to push too hard for Stammer. It would be huge for our power play...but he's a liability 5 on 5, and we already have enough of those
Aside from Carolina, these teams probably aren’t cup contenders, so I feel like Detroit and Anaheim are probably top dogs considering his connections within the organizations. Kinda hoping Anaheim doesn’t sign him, but I wouldn’t be pissed.
Anaheim like the kid trying to get a spot at the grownups table by showing the adults their digimon collection
*"Well if john gibson reverts back to Cinderella from his current pumpkin form... and Stamkos can put up a point per game without Kucherov...*
*...we could maybe scratch out the last playoff spot then get swept in round in one like capitals!"*
Signing Stamkos after Jake left for Tampa would be peak free agency.
Oh gosh, now I really want this to happen.
Carolina has been publicly after a RH 2C. They need PP help. I just doubt Stamkos chooses Raleigh.
I think you guys have a real shot. You're not that far from his home in Tampa and a legit cup contender. The big competition will be NJ. Easy flight back to his family in Toronto and a team that's ready to explode.
And Palat.
Yeah. He can be the pitch man, talk about how the organization does things, facilities, etc.
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*Cries*
Wipe them tears with a newly acquired Jake Gurentzel.
I don't wanna, let me tantrum. /S
Seriously, its impossible to get excited about this trade when we knew what it could cost. I’d personally rather have my captain back in the bay than a slightly better but more expensive player in Guentzel
If it's any consolation, Anaheim could fuck up their rebuild massively to the point we can all joke about it for years 🧡
Stammer would provide fantastic leadership to all the kids they have, but I hope they don’t rush their rebuild to detrimental levels because of it.
How “Tavares” of them!
Go full Gaudreau
I mean, if it’s a short term contract it’s fine. I can’t see him signing that though.
If he could go to the Western Conference that'd be pretty cash money of him
He should become a Jet
He should not.
Why would he want to live in Winnipeg lol come on
He's tired of that Florida heat. He wants the complete opposite experience.
He's been zigging.. time to zag!
7 years later we still covet the stammer Plz bby
Stamkos and kane duo would be fun to watch ngl.
They could just flip him and cat on 2 different lines when need be. Would be a great fit
I think it’d be awesome but I don’t see how we have the money to do it unless we also dump another contract and trade a youngster.
Please Tulsky
Idk, unless he is ok with a very favourable deal for the team an analytics GM will be not interested Tulsky remembers back in the day when we showed that MSL was driving the bus between the two in terms of Corsi Now Kucherov the MSL in terms of pts
I’m upset with how this has been handled but I choose to wait to pass judgment till this is over. If he signs somewhere else 7+ then it would feel a little better knowing we never stood a chance to keep him. Anything less than six than JBB has to be questioned.
I don't have a dog in the fight, but I'll believe he re-signs in Tampa right up until it's announced he's signing elsewhere.
This is kind of where I'm at right now.
If the rumor of Nashville's offer of $8mil + for 4 years is true, Stammer is probably gone.
I'm so upset over the handling of this
I'll honestly never forgive JBB for this.
What if he signs for 7+? We realistically never would have been able to keep him in that case and JBB ultimately is tasked with making the TEAM better which he can better do with that cap space. I'm a Stammer fan like everyone else but if he chooses money over the team (as is his right) then it is what it is.
I love Steve to death he’s obviously our goat but Id also like us to remain competitive if it means we have to avoid overpaying our going on 35 captain that was not good 5 on 5 last season then that’s the way it goes
I'd happily give $7 million x 3 years to Stamkos. The term is the question.
I wouldn't even though he is my favorite player.
I mean all reports indicate he was asking for 4-5m AAV from the lightning. The fact JBB wouldn't budge from 3 is just unforgivable for me.
"All reports" = one that was said was speculation from the start
That was speculation, there’s nothing remotely confirmed about those numbers.
but giving a maybe top 10 winger who hasn't proven he can be consistent $9mil for 7 years was a the better option right???? right?
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If we get Stamkos because we overpaid Killorn I definitely won't mind at all anymore
Be careful what you wish for lol. Overpaying two 34 olds for term, even if one is Stamkos, is not typically the way out of a rebuild.
Well our drafting part of the rebuild should be over.
So let’s sign a bunch of guys who will be 37 when we’re trying to be good?
He is not needed for his level of play. He is needed to be a mentor for the kids. We haven't really had that since Getzlaf retired. Also he will be great for PP.
Stammer would look pretty good in that new Ducks jersey.
To be fair, *anyone* would look good in that Ducks jersey.
Come play with your buddy, Drew
Anaheim? Why?
Ducks need a scoring winger and some leadership. There's also the Verbeek and Killorn connection. They can easily afford to pay him more than Tampa can. It's just a question of term
$$$, excellent place to live
he's been in blue so long that seeing him in red would be off-putting. Orange (ANA) and yellow (NSH) might be slightly better because it matches his hair color-ish
These are the important points, people!
I’d buy a gold Stamkos jersey so fast…
Devils make a lot of sense from a "he can be in sharp decline and still score 40 goals on Hughes' wing" perspective. We'll see
Devils and Detroit make the most sense to me for someone that still has some left in the tank with his skill set. The Bolts quite honestly could still use him the most, but at the price being rumored I can see why they are moving on. I don't think Guentzel was the answer tho. Not a fan
Detroit has Debrincat and Raymond, why would they sign a 3rd right handed sniper?
Raymond plays on the right, not the left. He’s a right handed playmaker who also has a solid shot - which is why Kane has been the perfect role model for him to learn from. Hopefully Stammer could be the same for Cat.
For the uninitiated, what is the longest that this could drag out. Do I need to be prepared to have my heart in my stomach for the next month? ETA: And so help me, if someone responds with "24 Hours"...
I can’t imagine he isn’t signed today, but theoretically there is no hard upper limit on when he signs.
Nashville is the winner.
I think he'll end up at NSH or CAR
He’s always hated Canada
I think since we kept Kane...we're probably not going to push too hard for Stammer. It would be huge for our power play...but he's a liability 5 on 5, and we already have enough of those
Honeslty, is he that much of an improvement over DeBrincat? They play the same power play spot.
As someone who watches both, yes, he's a massive improvement over debrincat
Stamkos to Carolina please. Filthy hobbitses take Guentzel so we take their Stamkos.
Lol at canes fans acting like the Bolts stole a player from you who you traded for at the deadline then traded the rights away.
Lol at losers that take an exaggeration seriously
Weird that we’re not on that list but we’re probably being pretty aggressive in acquiring Lindholm and Marchessault
Come join your buddy Killorn pls
Aside from Carolina, these teams probably aren’t cup contenders, so I feel like Detroit and Anaheim are probably top dogs considering his connections within the organizations. Kinda hoping Anaheim doesn’t sign him, but I wouldn’t be pissed.
WHERE VANCOUVER
Alvin please
Canes would have been better off paying Jake what he asked.
What the fuck is with the hate for anaheim in this thread?
Anaheim is where players go to have their careers wither away. It’s like how the state of Florida is for public retirement.
How you can tell someone hasnt watched hockey for any period of time.
Tampa low balled Killorn and did the same with Stamkos?
If we don't go hard for Stammer then idk why we're letting Marchessault walk, we need to patch that goal-scoring that we just lost.
Anaheim like the kid trying to get a spot at the grownups table by showing the adults their digimon collection *"Well if john gibson reverts back to Cinderella from his current pumpkin form... and Stamkos can put up a point per game without Kucherov...* *...we could maybe scratch out the last playoff spot then get swept in round in one like capitals!"*
I think if he ever signs out of Tampa it'll be us
I’m down for a west coast stammer!
I think it’ll end up coming down to NJ, CAR, or DET.
lmfao it’s Vegas with Fleury all over again, eh?