He got a goaltender on a good team that underperformed due to goaltending and injury
If I bet on hockey I'd be putting everything I had on Keefe's chances at a Jack Adams. That team is going to swing like 30 points with him doing nothing.
Even as a Devils fan it is wild to see the team so high on the list of Stanley Cup odds. Weāre surrounded by actual playoff teams. After decades of feeling like an underdog we are somehow overrated.
On paper, he's getting a lot more on this Devils roster than he got with the Leafs.
Hughes/Hirschier is a better one-two punch than Matthews/Tavares
Defence is far better and deeper than what the Leafs ever had both offensively and defensively.
And Markstrom is better than any goaltender the Leafs have had in the past decade.
Man's going to absolutely feast in NJ.
Hughes and Matthews are interchangeable. Matthews may be a bit better right now, but not by much.
Hirschier is way better than Tavares at this stage in both their careers.
Cap consideration is also big too.
Hirschier and Hughes COMBINED cost just 2m more in cap space than Matthews alone.
Don't think there's many teams out there that wouldnt take Hughes/Hirscher at 15m over Matthews/Tavares at 24m.
Felt Hughes would've been there had he not gotten injured early in the season. Dude was on an absolute tear to start the year. Long term, he's absolutely a top-5 center in the league.
> Hughes and Matthews are interchangeable. Matthews may be a bit better right now, but not by much.
Iām sorry what?!?
Last season:
Jack Hughes 62GP 27G 47A 74P 1.19PPG
Matthews 81GP 69G 38A 107P 1.32PPG
Thatās interchangeable to you?!?
Not to mention Matthews is a selke nominated level defensive forward. This is just an astonishingly dumb take.
Your original comment was about them being a better option down the middle so cap hit really doesnāt help your case otherwise I could just say the devils spend more on defence so you should ignore why itās better (see how itās a dumb take)
1 for 1 yeah thatās a bad take, but if you told me to pick between Hughes/Hischier and Matthews/Tavares for a 7 game playoff series, Iād have to think about it for a bit. To me that means theyāre interchangeable as duos
Staying healthy is part of what makes players so valuable. Plenty of players have hot starts and cool off as the season goes. Saying a player is interchangeable with a top 5 player in the league if he stayed healthy is an argument for imagination land, or is Woll interchangeable with prime Carey Price now too?
One person brought up nothing but the points total - Im saying theres context around the points total and I would expect to see more from Hughes next year but same for Matthews next year.
Lets see though :)
You say that now, but if this team makes the ECF and doesnt get into the Cup all of us devils fans will be heartbroken. Playoff hockey is like a drug, you just want more and more of it when your team is in
No, I agree with you. But once hindsight settles in weāll realize that jumping from one playoff series win in over a decade to at least three series wins in a single playoff is a large ask.
We're finally gonna win the division and get the Devil's round 1. After all the whining from leafs fans about how we've actually been a bad regular season team since we can't win the division.
He had a down year (as did a lot of the team). His trajectory before that was more in line with that sort of pay. Will be interesting to see what sort of deal he gets.
Just fell to my knees in the Bellagio.
Dumb move for us unless heās being overpaid, really starting to question McCrimmonās strategy this offseason.
This is how the knights operate and itās worked quite well for them so far. I wouldnāt be too upset yet, especially before we find out what Vegas is doing with the cap freed up from letting Marchessault walk.Ā
I think a lot of us just believed we could get it done. Especially as both sides voiced that they would like to get it done. Also we are a little nervous after this weekend
Stature-wise, maybe. But Hamilton, Hughes and even Nemec aren't exactly physical presences. Will be interesting to see how a pure skill team performs.
(yes, I'm well aware that Marchessault plays a gritty game despite his size)
Wow, really didnāt expect this. Fuck it, the salary cap is just a suggestion anyway. Competitive teams always find a way to shake things up and make the space they need
As a note, Powers is the same guy that broke Pesce to the Devils last week. There's something to this one. Grinnell seems to be going off the Powers report, but Wyshynski also picked it up and tends to have a good read on Devils rumors
It's getting crazy on the Devils front, tho, with Weekes now saying there's something to Stamkos, so who knows.
Details coming out on Pesce as well. Looks like we're gonna like that one
Yeah, I don't see how both would work, but it seems he's at least listening
It's nice to be considered
Edit: I think we might have heat with Stammer. Looks like Preds just landed Marchessault instead
Thank you for all you did in Vegas. Can't blame a man for wanting more money. This is his livelihood and future. You can't fuck with your future. Thank you again man
New Jersey with Markstrom and Marcheassault, with Keefe, holy cow. They are loading up for war. Hope Keefe gets them eliminated in the first round or something because that's scary
He's really young and his regular season record with the Leafs is nuts. I know people say he could have sleepwalked to that record with the talent on the Leafs but that's easier said than done. If he takes the next step as a coach (2nd time coaches are usually better) this could be a really good fit.
Alright buddy. You're describing what 2 players on the Canes? One being a 7th d and the other being a 13th f. Yea otherwise the Canes players are good guys
It will be weird to no longer associate him with Vegas, even if he was with Florida prior to the expansion draft. Very interesting times ahead for the Devils.
Might be a blessing in disguise tbh, I like Marchie but we kinda do need some cap space for Mercer and eventually Luke and Nemec. If he declined it would be another Palat situation. Good on Nashville though.
Devils needed defense and a top 6 winger. Are you supposed to pay guys in rocks?
You're a ranger fan, you literally are spending your offseason unloading Trouba and Goodrow.
Keefe is gonna eliminate us in the playoffs isn't he lol
with a power play goal from his 95% PP1 š
Jersey had a weird injury year plus the most inconsistent goaltending ever. They are going to be very good.
Markstrom and Marchessault are fantastic adds to an already great team if they stay healthy.
I disagree. The goaltending was pretty consistently bad. A few games as exceptions lol.
Hopefully the size and grit they've added already help keep the studs healthier by means of actually having to answer the bell for a change
He got a goaltender on a good team that underperformed due to goaltending and injury If I bet on hockey I'd be putting everything I had on Keefe's chances at a Jack Adams. That team is going to swing like 30 points with him doing nothing.
Even as a Devils fan it is wild to see the team so high on the list of Stanley Cup odds. Weāre surrounded by actual playoff teams. After decades of feeling like an underdog we are somehow overrated.
just gotta lose every pre-season game
On paper, he's getting a lot more on this Devils roster than he got with the Leafs. Hughes/Hirschier is a better one-two punch than Matthews/Tavares Defence is far better and deeper than what the Leafs ever had both offensively and defensively. And Markstrom is better than any goaltender the Leafs have had in the past decade. Man's going to absolutely feast in NJ.
>Hughes/Hirschier is a better one-two punch than Matthews/Tavares What are you smoking?
Hughes and Matthews are interchangeable. Matthews may be a bit better right now, but not by much. Hirschier is way better than Tavares at this stage in both their careers. Cap consideration is also big too. Hirschier and Hughes COMBINED cost just 2m more in cap space than Matthews alone. Don't think there's many teams out there that wouldnt take Hughes/Hirscher at 15m over Matthews/Tavares at 24m.
> Hughes and Matthews are interchangeable. We wish. Hughes may grow into it, but Matthews is still on another level
Felt Hughes would've been there had he not gotten injured early in the season. Dude was on an absolute tear to start the year. Long term, he's absolutely a top-5 center in the league.
> Hughes and Matthews are interchangeable. Matthews may be a bit better right now, but not by much. Iām sorry what?!? Last season: Jack Hughes 62GP 27G 47A 74P 1.19PPG Matthews 81GP 69G 38A 107P 1.32PPG Thatās interchangeable to you?!? Not to mention Matthews is a selke nominated level defensive forward. This is just an astonishingly dumb take. Your original comment was about them being a better option down the middle so cap hit really doesnāt help your case otherwise I could just say the devils spend more on defence so you should ignore why itās better (see how itās a dumb take)
Jack Hughes is no slouch defensively and they have Nico Hischier, who is also a selke calibre player
Iām not saying Jack Hughes isnāt a great player but saying heās interchangeable with Matthews is an all timer bad take.
1 for 1 yeah thatās a bad take, but if you told me to pick between Hughes/Hischier and Matthews/Tavares for a 7 game playoff series, Iād have to think about it for a bit. To me that means theyāre interchangeable as duos
He played much much worse after his injury. He lead the league in points until his injury.
Staying healthy is part of what makes players so valuable. Plenty of players have hot starts and cool off as the season goes. Saying a player is interchangeable with a top 5 player in the league if he stayed healthy is an argument for imagination land, or is Woll interchangeable with prime Carey Price now too?
One person brought up nothing but the points total - Im saying theres context around the points total and I would expect to see more from Hughes next year but same for Matthews next year. Lets see though :)
No offense but recency bias is very strong with this comment.
Shhh weāll take Matthews off your hands since heās so bad
If this means we both have made the Conference finals, then I donāt even care if we lose
nah it means one of you wins the division and one is a wild card, because the Leafs aren't allowed out of the first round
You say that now, but if this team makes the ECF and doesnt get into the Cup all of us devils fans will be heartbroken. Playoff hockey is like a drug, you just want more and more of it when your team is in
No, I agree with you. But once hindsight settles in weāll realize that jumping from one playoff series win in over a decade to at least three series wins in a single playoff is a large ask.
We're finally gonna win the division and get the Devil's round 1. After all the whining from leafs fans about how we've actually been a bad regular season team since we can't win the division.
You can just save yourselves from that embarrassment by simply missing the playoffs altogether!
I got to admit this years playoffs was very enjoyable to watch. No stress, just great hockey.
Devils will be a new team to face round one and eliminate us
Its been 20 years since we knocked the leafs out its past time we got back to that.
False alarm. Looks like Preds, not Devils
Exhale. Somebody else will humiliate us in April!
Now leafs fans will be the ones throwing chicken tendies at Keefe. Its come full circle
How much money do we have.....
19.6 mil in space to sign mercer and FAs
Just shy of 20 million. Pesce is being rumored to be 6 years 5.5, so actually have some room
I'm assuming mercer will have a bridge deal then? And then we'll have to pay Luke and Nemec in a couple years. Damn I'm going to miss cap friendly
Yeah I think Mercer is a bridge deal. I don't think he's "earned" that big pay day yet but he'll probably need one
Bridge deal makes the most sense for both ends. Mercer can prove last year was an outlier and we can use the time for the cap to open up.
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Ah yes Peace, my favorite player
Metta World?
A lot of people out there are doubting his puck moving abilities, but I just keep asking that they give Peace a chance
Also in what world is Mercer getting 3.5 mil lmao, he got 30 points
He had a down year (as did a lot of the team). His trajectory before that was more in line with that sort of pay. Will be interesting to see what sort of deal he gets.
I just donāt get why youād pay someone whoās point totals went down nearly 50%, just give him like 2x2 or something
Just fell to my knees in the Bellagio. Dumb move for us unless heās being overpaid, really starting to question McCrimmonās strategy this offseason.
I just saw a guy fall to his knees at the Bellagio
Just saw a guy whoās been on his knees at a Wawa since 2023 check his phone and get back up
But I saw a man hit the jackpot at Caesars Palace in AC
I just saw a guy watching another guy fall to his knees at the Bellagio.
This is how the knights operate and itās worked quite well for them so far. I wouldnāt be too upset yet, especially before we find out what Vegas is doing with the cap freed up from letting Marchessault walk.Ā
I think a lot of us just believed we could get it done. Especially as both sides voiced that they would like to get it done. Also we are a little nervous after this weekend
Need for rebuild will catch up with the a Knights as well. Pro sports is cyclical.
Been there too long. McCrimmon has a quota to fill
Saul?! Is that you? Itās me, Bucky Buchanon, from Saratoga!
āWeāre just supposed to walk out of there without getting stopped?ā āYeah.ā
They're gonna have the tiniest top 6 in the league lol.
And a large defense. Seems to be a deliberate choice.
Stature-wise, maybe. But Hamilton, Hughes and even Nemec aren't exactly physical presences. Will be interesting to see how a pure skill team performs. (yes, I'm well aware that Marchessault plays a gritty game despite his size)
They're supposedly adding Pesce and Dillon, and they have McDermid
Nemec was 6ā3 210 at 18 years oldā¦. Heās a presence
Food for Rempe
To be fair everyone is food for Rempe
Damn that would give them some nasty offense
Watch him go to Columbus
Don't you bring this on me
Dodged a bullet there.
You have no power here
Also the Islanders will get thrown in as a possibility but he won't actually go there. Then Lou will say he never even considered it.
He would look good in red. The hair, the beard, all of it. You can see it
New fan fiction unlocked
New Jerseyans, get ready to suck on your mommyās titty
He's gonna fit right in. He found his people.
Shut the fuck lil dick
Right after Hughes asking her to show them.
Fuck
Devils still wonāt make the playoffs
Devils clearly going for size this offseason so it obviously makes sense to sign a *check notes* 5ā9 forward
i mean if you have a shot you get the guy, heās a gamer.
shut the fuck lil dick and go suck on your mummy's titties and stop wasting my time
Iām sold
Rude, but fair
I mean hes a Conn Smythe winner whos certainly not known for being soft lol
Can't just obtain size. We need some skill, especially on the wings
As a VGK/NJD fan, this is the best case scenario, but Iām still heartbroken.
As a non VGK/NJD fan this is a pretty shit case scenario. Iām also not happy
Wow, really didnāt expect this. Fuck it, the salary cap is just a suggestion anyway. Competitive teams always find a way to shake things up and make the space they need
Damn. Devils gonna be scary if they can stay healthy.
YOU THOUGHT
Iām straight up not having a good time.
Vegas lost the best misfit
Whatās it like to do free agent stuff? I wanna have fun too
As a note, Powers is the same guy that broke Pesce to the Devils last week. There's something to this one. Grinnell seems to be going off the Powers report, but Wyshynski also picked it up and tends to have a good read on Devils rumors It's getting crazy on the Devils front, tho, with Weekes now saying there's something to Stamkos, so who knows. Details coming out on Pesce as well. Looks like we're gonna like that one
I think weāre just talking to Stammer as a backup. Someone else will snatch him up
Yeah, I don't see how both would work, but it seems he's at least listening It's nice to be considered Edit: I think we might have heat with Stammer. Looks like Preds just landed Marchessault instead
Mercer would have to be moved.
Well, this is gonna ruin the tour.
Signed with Nash ššššš Per Pierre: https://x.com/pierrevlebrun/status/1807801578746732695?s=46&t=99vpDMJvr0n6XV8xHtkEow
Could be the boost the Devils need to get back on track
Everyone said the same thing about toffoli last season š
[VGK fans right now](https://y.yarn.co/85e9afe5-7f6d-4a2b-9900-5f061c09d1f4_text.gif)
the Devils wouldnt make the top 20 teams I'd hate seeing him go to is he's leaving
I was just going for the devils/Satan thing.
yeah but he's in Washington
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Thank you for all you did in Vegas. Can't blame a man for wanting more money. This is his livelihood and future. You can't fuck with your future. Thank you again man
Agreed. Secure the bag.
New Jersey with Markstrom and Marcheassault, with Keefe, holy cow. They are loading up for war. Hope Keefe gets them eliminated in the first round or something because that's scary
Keefe is not a win. Dude doesn't know what to do when things don't go as planed.
He's really young and his regular season record with the Leafs is nuts. I know people say he could have sleepwalked to that record with the talent on the Leafs but that's easier said than done. If he takes the next step as a coach (2nd time coaches are usually better) this could be a really good fit.
Keefe is win
Dammit Marchy would've been great as a Cane
Great hockey player but likely piece of shit off the ice? Agreed.
Alright buddy. You're describing what 2 players on the Canes? One being a 7th d and the other being a 13th f. Yea otherwise the Canes players are good guys
Can't forget Trump loving Burns.
Ok literally what are you talking about? Ambiguous rumors mean nothing
This would be a good move for New Jersey. He gives them some help in the top six, and more importantly, he gives them some championship experience.
Eventually offseason champs has to carry over into the regular season/playoffs right
This is someone you desperately don't wanna overpay. He's a good player who i feel like won't age well at all personally.Ā
I imagine being on Hughes' wing will make for a fairly decent youth serum at least.
We could all be dead tomorrow
Don't give me hope
I like it. Though this means no top six minutes for Mercer which Iām sure he wonāt be thrilled about
Bratt, nico, jack, Meier, possibly march, who am I missing? I'm assuming Palat and mercer will fight for that last spot
Shhhhit.
damn, the Devils had more cap room than I thought.
Having Nico and Jack bratt for 8 and under is a huge help. They had 20 mill to start today and the only important RfA to sign is Mercer.
It will be weird to no longer associate him with Vegas, even if he was with Florida prior to the expansion draft. Very interesting times ahead for the Devils.
Heck ya
Fitz is spending like he knows he's fired if they don't do well this year
Between this, Pesce and Paul George to my Sixers I am having a fantastic Monday
Let me rain on it by telling you he just signed with Nashville š¤
Might be a blessing in disguise tbh, I like Marchie but we kinda do need some cap space for Mercer and eventually Luke and Nemec. If he declined it would be another Palat situation. Good on Nashville though.
Jealous yall got pesce
Think y'all got any moves lined up once Trouba's money comes off the books?
Not based on what Iāve seen
Well this spices things up. I donāt remember LW being an issue for the Devils. Any Devils fan chime me in to why the team would need him?
We need a top 6 LW
Jack Hughes is very happy right now
Heās not coming
Yeah saw it
Not sure this is going to happen https://x.com/pierrevlebrun/status/1807801578746732695?s=46
Rumors of Stamkos possibly going NJD too, do they snag both?
Man, if *we* donāt get Stamkos our forward corps is cooked lmao We literally have no top-6 LWs at the moment.
When has that stopped you guys?
2021-22
There's a RW from the Leafs...
No shot, we cannot afford that and Samkos isn't taking 4m or so a season.Ā
Unless Lou left behind his dirt folder on Stamkos so he can't refuse the offer.
Stammer is the back up option I'd guess. I want Debrusk over Stammer even though I'm the biggest Stamkos fan
Why canāt we have anything nice
Idk Iām down for NJ to be good again if it means eliminating the rags lolĀ
Rumor is there is still only one puck . But if he takes a discount i didn't think jersey had enough for him
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Devils needed defense and a top 6 winger. Are you supposed to pay guys in rocks? You're a ranger fan, you literally are spending your offseason unloading Trouba and Goodrow.