But there was so much evidence against that. Dude was a known grifter for decades. JB wasn't/ isn't.
While there are parallels, it's still a largely different situation.
This guy is actually really rich and seems to be a decent business man, while others go bankrupt multiple times and have to have their daddy buy $1MM in casino chips and then never cash them in. You are comparing apples to Depends.
I saw something that said he’s the richest politician out there, don’t remember the exact stipulations on the definition of politician though.
It’s nice to be on top, he has more money than the others, so what could they really buy him with that he couldn’t just buy himself?
he needs to take national leadership on some issue. He needs to fundraise for some congressional cantidates in swingy districts and help them get elected. he needs to donate some of his "unneeded" campaign cash to needier campaigns. That's how you get the worm turning.
Yep. Otherwise he might end up another "Bloomberg."
Supposedly, from what I've heard, Bloomberg was actually not bad in New York as mayor (correct me if I'm wrong), but my first exposure to him was in the presidential race because no one outside of NYC would otherwise give a fuck about Bloomberg. And what I saw was an out of touch old loser who was just taking attention from other better candidates.
I really wouldn't want that kind of negative attention for Pritzker if he were to run. Also JB Pritzker is a very presidential name, I really think he would have a lot of good things going for him if he were to run.
Bloomberg was the kind of technocratic mayor that NYC needed, but he doesn't fit in well with national politics. The millions he spent on ads for his primary campaign was just a massive useless stimulus to ad makers and sellers.
I disagree, he's "turned around Illinois" what more can people expect/want. Don't forget his sister was big in the Obama campaign so expect that card to be played. The only one close to him is Newsome and he has a lot of baggage -JB is a good midwestern guy, he might be able to flip a few of the less red midwestern states.
Obama had been elevated with a key placement in one of the DNC conventions that put him in the party spotlight. There was also that whole high drama Senate race in 2004.
Exactly.
I think Obama's presidency was a big net positive for the nation, but I sometimes wonder how much more good he might have done if he stayed a Senator for longer.
Same thing when people clamor for young progressives like AOC to run ASAP.
POTUS is a political dead-end, career-wise. I don't want to keep putting octogenarians in the Oval Office; but I don't want to cut off the young progressive core bloc of the party now forming by dead-ending their careers with a POTUS win.
We can do far better with a milquetoast POTUS and them still in Congress.
I mean it doesn't have to be. Besides tradition there's no reason why a president can't return to politics in other roles. JQA went to Congress again and Taft went to the supreme Court. Why not go back to senator or governor or something like that.
He has zero chance in this cycle but yea maybe in the future. I’m not super fond of electing billionaires, though, and I do believe we live in a far too antisemitic country to elect a Jewish president, sadly.
>and I do believe we live in a far too antisemitic country to elect a Jewish president, sadly.
Biden is only the 2nd Catholic even. And obviously all have been Christian. Jewish would be a ton of progress.
This is probably the answer. He’d have a lot more appeal in the Wisconsin’s/Michigan’s/Arizona’s than Newsome or even Pritzker. Doubt he could win a Democratic Primary though since he’s had to govern as a centrist in Kentucky.
Is Biden not that 😂? Was Obama not one? Was Clinton not one?
Just cause the GOP keeps nominating warmongers and authoritarians doesn’t mean the Dems are nominating Stalin and Castro.
I know this may sound stupid, but I wonder if the weight thing would work against him. It doesn't bother me at all, but people are surprisingly shallow.
It absolutely would.
It shouldn't; but sadly it would.
Not saying it would lose him the election, but it's definitely a negative in the general election.
It should though. A president should take their personal health as serious as anything else. Without it they won't perform at their best in one of, if not the, most stressful job on the planet. Lives count on it.
FDR (mostly secretly) used a wheelchair due to lifelong complications from polio and had absurdly high blood pressure. JFK had all kinds of fucked up autoimmune problems. These are two of our highest-regarded presidents, they were both in poor health, and nobody worried much about it because they looked outwardly thin/fit.
I'm not saying it's not generally better to have physically healthy presidents than physically unhealthy ones, but people's qualms about having a fat president have way more to do with our cultural assumptions around fat people being lazy and weak than any actual concern for Pritzker's health/physical ability to do the job.
edit for assholes: no, I’m not fat. You can check my post history if you need to make sure I’m medium-sized before you take me seriously, but it sucks that you need to.
Both of those presidents died in office (obviously in JFK’s case, not his fault). FDR is a solid example though: people in his administration knew very well that he was unlikely to live out another term, which is why the choice for his fourth term VP was so contested. He died only a month into it.
It’s not fair to the American people to run a candidate that is not physically fit for the job.
Him being a large man doesn't mean he has poor physical health. There are thin people in terrible health and large people who are very healthy. But if you're talking about voter perception, then yes, most voters are ignorant and would conflate being large with being unhealthy.
Don’t you think it’s odd that we spend so much time worrying about this one *possible* indicator of bad health, but just assume everybody who’s thin must be doing fine?
For all we know, every other candidate could be covering up a ton of deadly diseases that just don’t happen to make you fat. You’d think people like you who are so very concerned with all the American lives that could be lost if we elect an unhealthy president would be doing tons of research on the medical history of all the other candidates, yet you never seem to! It’s almost as though your issue isn’t really with his health at all 🤔
No I dont find it odd that a obese person who wants to be president might be queationed about it. I agree most presidential candidates hide health issues. Regan couldnt even feed himself breakfast by the time he retired. So it can be worse, but just because it can be worse dosent mean its not an issue.
No.
https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/assessing/index.html#:~:text=At%20an%20individual%20level%2C%20BMI,or%20health%20of%20an%20individual.
TL;DR
At an individual level, BMI can be used as a screening tool but is not diagnostic of the body fatness or health of an individual. A trained healthcare provider should perform appropriate health assessments in order to evaluate an individual’s health status and risks.
Pritzker/Fetterman 2028
...I have no reason other then how FUNNY they would look standing next to each other.
Slogan: "Think **B I G** America!"
JB is 5'6, Fetterman is 6'8, yet are \*about\* the same weight.
Fetterman could put his coffee mug on JB's square head.
JB's height is anywhere from 5'6" to 6'2" depending on which website you go to. I'm 5'2" in [this pic](https://imgur.com/a/jtvtayC), so I'd say he's around 5'9", maybe? Definitely taller than 5'6.
> Pritzker/Fetterman 2028
I know you were joking, but:
FUCK NO
Fetterman needs to be one and done as a Senator anyway, dude is basically a younger Manchin or a cishet male Sinema.
What? I don't think I've ever heard anyone say Fetterman was too centrist before. What's your reasoning for that? He's generally considered one of the more left wing politicians.
The left demands absolute conformity to niche issues or else they toss actual progressive guys like Fetterman out to the wild. God forbid he represent his constituents and not toe the party line at every moment.
I think people are getting too hung up on terminology. His policy positions haven't taken some sort of massive shift. He is still a solid left wing democrat.
Not for 2024, but by 2028 he could be a pretty solid pick. Hard to find someone with Billionaire level resources who can get progressives to rally behind them, and he's doing a pretty good job of restructuring the Illinois Dems
I'd vote for him, but I probably prefer that he remain governor and continue to get shit done, rather than run against Newsome, lose in the primary, and at best become VP.
The DNC is not interested in any other candidates coming forward.. They want to ride Biden and bet on the incumbent factor.
In fact, I think the DNC would possibly avoid the entire primary process if they could.
I feel the same! I feel safe here — I get money for college from the state, healthcare through IL’s participation in ACA/expansion, policies that respect my body as a woman, etc. There’s good reasons why some people move here from red states.
Front runner in the 28 primary. Give me Whitmer/Pritzker in either order and we have 2 great governors that could be vialbe for 16 straight years esp while GQP falls apart
As someone who lives in Northern Wisconsin but randomly gets a lot of Illinois news articles in my feed, JB sounds awesome. Maybe Im only receiving the good news but I would vote for him if he ran 👍
To be elected president these days, you have to be well known nationally and he isn’t.
Also, I’m just going to brutally honest. The sad truth is a lot of people won’t vote for a Jewish president. Especially not with the rising anti Jewish sentiment in the country after the Gaza war.
I admit I held my nose and voted for him, because ewww, billionaires. He's been a pretty awesome governor, though. The state's credit rating is no longer in the toilet, Madigan and Burke are on their way to prison (hopefully), he handled COVID really well. He actually seems interested in governing and making the state functional.
Honestly, he has been pretty solid. He's done good for this state, especially for under privileged groups. He's been a good governor.
That doesn't change that we should stop electing billionaires to public office.
Take my statement one step further: billionaires should stop existing
I know some people won’t want to hear this, but considering what you put your family through the $$$$ is not worth it. Also, good thing about a billionaire it’s not as easy to buy him/her.
As a leftie I don't like billionaires, but as far as politicians go he's easily the best Democrat that could run (so far). Liberalism to me is still right-wing, but I'd feel better with him than anyone else running rn.
Dude is 95% running in 2028 and I am convinced he is going to run for Durbin's seat in 2026 (if Durbin retires, and he should, he is already pushing 80).
Pritzker has the progressive credentials, a solid track record, and no major skeletons.
Please god no. We need to stop giving billionaires more power. Dude would just further bullshit neoliberal politics while the working class continues to suffer.
He would be a solid candidate. Would be interesting to see the process play out and who else would be in the field. I would classify myself as an independent voter and just want the best person to get the job. I couldn’t give a 💩 if it’s a d or r behind their name
He can fuck off. His gun control has lost me as a voter permanently. I will not vote for any politician who runs on a gun control platform. But being outside of Chicago, my vote doesn't mean anything anyway.
I just don't understand the Biden hate from the left. He's the most progressive president in modern history. He has done more for progressive causes than any president in modern times.
The Inflation Reduction Act alone is the most substantial overhaul of the countries economic system in modern history. It is nothing short of revolutionary. **Anyone who argues the Biden Administration hasn't been progressive enough on economic issues simply isn't paying attention.**
There is a reason both Warren and Bernie are completely and totally behind Biden. AOC is in Biden's camp. There isn't a progressive who's actually paying attention who thinks Biden is a bad choice this cycle.
Look, he's not the perfect candidate. But to pretend that we shouldn't re-elect him is to just not be paying attention to what's happening. I'd like him to take a harder line on Israel (he's been wagging his finger at the IDF, more than any other president has ever done, but still not enough), and he's thrown bones to oil and gas (after *gutting* their federal subsidies), but at the end of the day he's far far FAR more progressive than anyone could have hoped and he's gotten more done than Obama or Clinton before him.
Do some research on what he's *actually* done. It's very impressive. He's far from a lame duck or mindless old man. /rant over
I'm off to the city. Fight amongst yourselves.
Yeah, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I see people talk about Biden. I'm 32 years old, and Biden's administration has easily been the best I've seen in terms of actually getting stuff done. I don't understand why people dislike him so much other than hurr durr sleepy Joe stuff. It's mind boggling
Not once voters realize his record on credit improvements are based on federal dollars, and he is ignoring the pension crisis.
So many want to finger point at Rauner without looking at what he was trying to do.
Can you name anything positive that he's done for the citizens of the state of Illinois? You already pointed out that he's tried to trash our second amendment rights. Increase taxes and fees, catch and release policy for criminals, pretty much look up anything he signed into law.
The fact that the state is consistently losing population ever since he's been in office should be your first clue.
9 credit upgrades.
I wish we had even stricter gun laws. I don’t particularly like taxes but the state has a lot of debt. I haven’t seen any issues with the SAFE-T act but time will tell.
I can't imagine why someone would want to give up their rights. Your ancestors fought hard so that you could have them. More laws on guns only hurt law abiding citizens.
2nd highest property taxes in the nation.
Public pension liability that cannot be met.
High crime in every metropolitan area.
Safety Act.
Removed the toilets in one of his properties to avoid property taxes,and wasn’t prosecuted.
These for STARTERS.
In what way is Pritzker responsible for property taxes? The state doesn’t levy property taxes.
How is Pritzker responsible for pension liabilities?
Illinois metropolitan areas have lower crime rates than much of the country.
The sky hasn’t fallen yet from the SAFE-T act.
Who cares about the toilets? It’s time to get another example if you want to make him out to be the poster child of corruption. The fact that this is the only example that is given says a lot about how little evidence of corruption there js.
He basically flew in from California and bought the election here.
Not a fan of him putting the party before the people. He killed a lot of small businesses with his disastrous covid response lock-downs while blasting what Florida was doing. Then flys himself and his family down to Florida. wtf??
I wouldn't vote for him.
He’s got a better chance than Biden does that’s for sure. I certainly think he’d do a little better in purple states than someone like Gavin Newsome. Unfortunately looks like Biden is set on running again so a president Trump in 2024 is looking increasingly likely.
I'd be happy with him, but if the current set of known governors potentially in the running in 2028, I'd probably go for Whitmer. Then we can keep him.
2024 I'm voting for Biden, no question.
BJ has all kinds of ideas for new taxes like a financial transactions tax but JB has reportedly told them they’re non-starters because they’d drive firms like CBOE out of the city faster than he could whine about being a dad who has to take his kids to soccer practice (yes…that really happened).
I’m sure Johnson hates every day of his mayoral term as much as the rest of us do. Hopefully he hates it enough to resign at some point.
He’s a disaster. Just when you think he can’t sound more foolish or incompetent or use his race or the fact that he was a middle school teacher for about six minutes to excuse his incompetence, he comes up with something even crazier or more stupid than what he’s said before.
He’s done nothing that I respect and I have a feeling I’m not alone.
I don’t think Pritzker will ever be able to become President. I could see him holding a major position in a Democratic administration though. It’s not just that he’s a very liberal governor, I think it’s the fact that it’s Illinois which has a very negative national image thanks to corruption scandals and crime problems, whether or not it’s fair. Plus he’s obese which does matter since a lot of people make voting decisions based on looks. I’d sooner expect a Gavin Newsom presidency before a Pritzker one
Not for 2024. He’d have to build a bigger platform and become more well known. And does he even want it?
That's what I love about him. He's a billionaire who seems to somehow NOT be a megalomaniac. Who knew that was a thing?
There's still time for him to fuck up. But yeah, it's weird all right.
I appreciate he’s using his own money like the org he started that donated quite a bit to the Ohio special election for women’s right to choose.
Billionaire that isn't self made. Was his parents money. Dude can't be bought like most politicians.
I remember people saying the same thing about a certain presidential candidate back in 2016.
But he actually is like that. That other guy was always the way he is, too. No one with a brain was fooled by that smelly guy.
What's crazy is how the people that already KNEW he was a sleazy conman suddenly didn't anymore. It was crazy to see.
Plop an R or D next to a name and whole buncha facts change.
He’s also like, a whole different person, man. So yeah, a lot of perspectives change when talking about JB compared to Orange Jesus.
But there was so much evidence against that. Dude was a known grifter for decades. JB wasn't/ isn't. While there are parallels, it's still a largely different situation.
I mean I’d think that kinda dirt on him exists, there’s just a much smaller list of people able to benefit from bringing it to light.
Well if so hopefully a presidential run brings it to light. I'm team JB now but if some terrible stuff comes to light I'll jump ship.
Except Trump isnt actually rich and at risk of losing his wealth. JB isnt in fear of that.
This guy is actually really rich and seems to be a decent business man, while others go bankrupt multiple times and have to have their daddy buy $1MM in casino chips and then never cash them in. You are comparing apples to Depends.
He may have gotten a major head start, but he was still a successful businessman. He's not like the Walton kids.
I saw something that said he’s the richest politician out there, don’t remember the exact stipulations on the definition of politician though. It’s nice to be on top, he has more money than the others, so what could they really buy him with that he couldn’t just buy himself?
He exceeded my expectations for sure.
It's really hard to say no when everyone around you is saying you should be president.
Peer pressure is a real thing.
Exhibit A: Grover Cleveland for both of his terms
Too soon and needs to build up some momentum. He’ll run in ‘28
he needs to take national leadership on some issue. He needs to fundraise for some congressional cantidates in swingy districts and help them get elected. he needs to donate some of his "unneeded" campaign cash to needier campaigns. That's how you get the worm turning.
Yep. Otherwise he might end up another "Bloomberg." Supposedly, from what I've heard, Bloomberg was actually not bad in New York as mayor (correct me if I'm wrong), but my first exposure to him was in the presidential race because no one outside of NYC would otherwise give a fuck about Bloomberg. And what I saw was an out of touch old loser who was just taking attention from other better candidates. I really wouldn't want that kind of negative attention for Pritzker if he were to run. Also JB Pritzker is a very presidential name, I really think he would have a lot of good things going for him if he were to run.
Bloomberg was the kind of technocratic mayor that NYC needed, but he doesn't fit in well with national politics. The millions he spent on ads for his primary campaign was just a massive useless stimulus to ad makers and sellers.
I disagree, he's "turned around Illinois" what more can people expect/want. Don't forget his sister was big in the Obama campaign so expect that card to be played. The only one close to him is Newsome and he has a lot of baggage -JB is a good midwestern guy, he might be able to flip a few of the less red midwestern states.
He likely doesn't have the national recognition. He's better than newsom, but you don't really hear much about him outside of Illinois focused media.
I never heard of Bill Clinton until he ran for president.
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Obama had been elevated with a key placement in one of the DNC conventions that put him in the party spotlight. There was also that whole high drama Senate race in 2004.
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Do I think he'd make a good president? Yes. Do I want him to run for president? No. Because then we'd lose him here.
Exactly. I think Obama's presidency was a big net positive for the nation, but I sometimes wonder how much more good he might have done if he stayed a Senator for longer. Same thing when people clamor for young progressives like AOC to run ASAP. POTUS is a political dead-end, career-wise. I don't want to keep putting octogenarians in the Oval Office; but I don't want to cut off the young progressive core bloc of the party now forming by dead-ending their careers with a POTUS win. We can do far better with a milquetoast POTUS and them still in Congress.
I mean it doesn't have to be. Besides tradition there's no reason why a president can't return to politics in other roles. JQA went to Congress again and Taft went to the supreme Court. Why not go back to senator or governor or something like that.
Because it never happens anymore, and honestly, I can't say I blame former POTUSes for being *fucking done* at that point.
Apologies for my ignorance but who was JQA again?
John Quincy Adams
John Quincy Adams
He has zero chance in this cycle but yea maybe in the future. I’m not super fond of electing billionaires, though, and I do believe we live in a far too antisemitic country to elect a Jewish president, sadly.
>and I do believe we live in a far too antisemitic country to elect a Jewish president, sadly. Biden is only the 2nd Catholic even. And obviously all have been Christian. Jewish would be a ton of progress.
Sorry, our boy Andy Beshear is the man. (Grew up in IL, but in KY now.)
We can coexist. KY is damn lucky to have him.
Yes- I will agree wholeheartedly.
This is probably the answer. He’d have a lot more appeal in the Wisconsin’s/Michigan’s/Arizona’s than Newsome or even Pritzker. Doubt he could win a Democratic Primary though since he’s had to govern as a centrist in Kentucky.
I think a centrist is what this whole nation needs right now more than anything.
Is Biden not that 😂? Was Obama not one? Was Clinton not one? Just cause the GOP keeps nominating warmongers and authoritarians doesn’t mean the Dems are nominating Stalin and Castro.
I hope and pray Democrats won't engage in the purity tests the GOP has been doing for 20 years. Seems like our 2016 slate was pretty diverse.
Not until 2028.
Oh yeah. He’s gearing up to run in 28. I’m sure it’ll be him, Newsom and Whitmer duking it out.
I'm a Missouri resident (St. Louis), but I sure wish Pritzker was my governor. I'd vote for him for president.
I know this may sound stupid, but I wonder if the weight thing would work against him. It doesn't bother me at all, but people are surprisingly shallow.
Trump isn't exactly walking around with six pack abs
Haven’t you read his doctor’s report that he’s the healthiest president of all time?
All his tests were positive!!
Arthritis? Positive! Obesity? Positive! HIV? …inconclusive?
Insanity-positive Dementia-positive
Haven’t you seen trading cards. He looks pretty manly to me. So full of testosterone.
Cheez Whiz, you meant Cheez Whiz.
Some how all the normal rules haven’t ever applied to him
It absolutely would. It shouldn't; but sadly it would. Not saying it would lose him the election, but it's definitely a negative in the general election.
Christie vs Pritzker Cage match ?
NGL, I'd buy that PPV if it was going to a good cause lol
It should though. A president should take their personal health as serious as anything else. Without it they won't perform at their best in one of, if not the, most stressful job on the planet. Lives count on it.
FDR (mostly secretly) used a wheelchair due to lifelong complications from polio and had absurdly high blood pressure. JFK had all kinds of fucked up autoimmune problems. These are two of our highest-regarded presidents, they were both in poor health, and nobody worried much about it because they looked outwardly thin/fit. I'm not saying it's not generally better to have physically healthy presidents than physically unhealthy ones, but people's qualms about having a fat president have way more to do with our cultural assumptions around fat people being lazy and weak than any actual concern for Pritzker's health/physical ability to do the job. edit for assholes: no, I’m not fat. You can check my post history if you need to make sure I’m medium-sized before you take me seriously, but it sucks that you need to.
Both of those presidents died in office (obviously in JFK’s case, not his fault). FDR is a solid example though: people in his administration knew very well that he was unlikely to live out another term, which is why the choice for his fourth term VP was so contested. He died only a month into it. It’s not fair to the American people to run a candidate that is not physically fit for the job.
Eh. Trump is in awful physical condition, maybe the worst of any president we've had in the modern era.
I agree, he shouldnt be president either.
His mental condition is unstable
Him being a large man doesn't mean he has poor physical health. There are thin people in terrible health and large people who are very healthy. But if you're talking about voter perception, then yes, most voters are ignorant and would conflate being large with being unhealthy.
LOL, high BMI is absolutely a sign of an unhealthy person.
Don’t you think it’s odd that we spend so much time worrying about this one *possible* indicator of bad health, but just assume everybody who’s thin must be doing fine? For all we know, every other candidate could be covering up a ton of deadly diseases that just don’t happen to make you fat. You’d think people like you who are so very concerned with all the American lives that could be lost if we elect an unhealthy president would be doing tons of research on the medical history of all the other candidates, yet you never seem to! It’s almost as though your issue isn’t really with his health at all 🤔
No I dont find it odd that a obese person who wants to be president might be queationed about it. I agree most presidential candidates hide health issues. Regan couldnt even feed himself breakfast by the time he retired. So it can be worse, but just because it can be worse dosent mean its not an issue.
No. https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/assessing/index.html#:~:text=At%20an%20individual%20level%2C%20BMI,or%20health%20of%20an%20individual. TL;DR At an individual level, BMI can be used as a screening tool but is not diagnostic of the body fatness or health of an individual. A trained healthcare provider should perform appropriate health assessments in order to evaluate an individual’s health status and risks.
Not stupid. Look at the pendulum swing (read: tantrum) after we elected a black man.
Is the argument here that we shouldn’t elect Pritzker president because then the Republicans would careen toward radically thin candidates?
What are you saying? Genuinely don’t understand what you mean by this comment.
The only issue would be if it affected his physical exam.
Republicans would be all over it. Nevermind that their current savior is a fat sack of human garbage.
Agree, I know so many people who hated RFK JR. For his voice before finding out he’s a Zionist.
Pritzker/Fetterman 2028 ...I have no reason other then how FUNNY they would look standing next to each other. Slogan: "Think **B I G** America!" JB is 5'6, Fetterman is 6'8, yet are \*about\* the same weight. Fetterman could put his coffee mug on JB's square head.
"It's Second Breakfast In America"
What about elevenses?
Hilarious 😂
How tall is JB??? Now I’m curious what the height difference is hahaha
JB is 5'6, Fetterman is 6'8. Fetterman could put a coffee mug on JB's square head.
JB's height is anywhere from 5'6" to 6'2" depending on which website you go to. I'm 5'2" in [this pic](https://imgur.com/a/jtvtayC), so I'd say he's around 5'9", maybe? Definitely taller than 5'6.
Eh, not after Fetterman's stance on Israel.
Honestly though, that would be a pretty good pairing, and I would vote for them for sure
> Pritzker/Fetterman 2028 I know you were joking, but: FUCK NO Fetterman needs to be one and done as a Senator anyway, dude is basically a younger Manchin or a cishet male Sinema.
What? I don't think I've ever heard anyone say Fetterman was too centrist before. What's your reasoning for that? He's generally considered one of the more left wing politicians.
The left demands absolute conformity to niche issues or else they toss actual progressive guys like Fetterman out to the wild. God forbid he represent his constituents and not toe the party line at every moment.
He claims he isn't progressive anymore and super pro Israel.
He has always been super pro Israel. That's nothing new. If people don't like that and weren't paying attention before that's their problem.
I wasn't sure if the person asking the question didn't know so I added that in. But him saying he isn't progressive anymore is disappointing.
I think people are getting too hung up on terminology. His policy positions haven't taken some sort of massive shift. He is still a solid left wing democrat.
Not for 2024, but by 2028 he could be a pretty solid pick. Hard to find someone with Billionaire level resources who can get progressives to rally behind them, and he's doing a pretty good job of restructuring the Illinois Dems
I'd vote for him, but I probably prefer that he remain governor and continue to get shit done, rather than run against Newsome, lose in the primary, and at best become VP.
He’d get my vote in 2028.
The DNC is not interested in any other candidates coming forward.. They want to ride Biden and bet on the incumbent factor. In fact, I think the DNC would possibly avoid the entire primary process if they could.
Is it bad that I want to gatekeep JB for Illinois 🤣
I feel the same! I feel safe here — I get money for college from the state, healthcare through IL’s participation in ACA/expansion, policies that respect my body as a woman, etc. There’s good reasons why some people move here from red states.
Front runner in the 28 primary. Give me Whitmer/Pritzker in either order and we have 2 great governors that could be vialbe for 16 straight years esp while GQP falls apart
No. I'd prefer he remain a governor or IL. Best one we've had in a while....
I think he’ll run 2028
No leave him here in illinois please thank you
I would support
Hey JBs team, im a big fan
JB needs to finish his work in Illinois first. We still need him.
As someone who lives in Northern Wisconsin but randomly gets a lot of Illinois news articles in my feed, JB sounds awesome. Maybe Im only receiving the good news but I would vote for him if he ran 👍
He gave daily press conferences during the worst of Covid. I will always appreciate that. Very scary times.
I fully expect him to run in 2028 Whitmer & Newsome too
Let’s hope not.
Call me selfish, but I want him to be governor for the next 6 years.
I never got the sense that he had national ambitions. Newsome in California definitely seems to.
JB turned Illinois around. I’d take him over Biden.
To be elected president these days, you have to be well known nationally and he isn’t. Also, I’m just going to brutally honest. The sad truth is a lot of people won’t vote for a Jewish president. Especially not with the rising anti Jewish sentiment in the country after the Gaza war.
I’d love to see him make an epic speech at the democratic convention. It’d give him national exposure the same way Obamas 2004 speech did
Hell yeah
Can we stop electing billionairies to public office?
I admit I held my nose and voted for him, because ewww, billionaires. He's been a pretty awesome governor, though. The state's credit rating is no longer in the toilet, Madigan and Burke are on their way to prison (hopefully), he handled COVID really well. He actually seems interested in governing and making the state functional.
He's been solid tho
Seriously though, he doesn't have brain damage-type personality/god complex disorder like Elon. JBP is incredibly articulate and seems to really care.
Honestly, he has been pretty solid. He's done good for this state, especially for under privileged groups. He's been a good governor. That doesn't change that we should stop electing billionaires to public office. Take my statement one step further: billionaires should stop existing
As nice of a concept of wealth distribution is, in the current state of government, I guarantee you the wealth would go to anywhere but those in need.
Going literally anywhere but in a billionaire's pocket is a better place than it's going now.
Until we reform our election laws surrounding funding and make rules about the ads and media campaigns can put out, we’re kinda SOL
I know some people won’t want to hear this, but considering what you put your family through the $$$$ is not worth it. Also, good thing about a billionaire it’s not as easy to buy him/her.
There’s not much of a Trend here. Biden, Obama, Clinton, none are billionaires
Trump isn't a billionaire either.
Neither is Trump...
but all are millionaires. don't try to downplay the elite/wealthy rot in our political system
Nooo let's keep him as Gov in IL please
Winning the IL governorship as democrat and billionaire is not an indication that one would win the presidency
As a leftie I don't like billionaires, but as far as politicians go he's easily the best Democrat that could run (so far). Liberalism to me is still right-wing, but I'd feel better with him than anyone else running rn.
Dude is 95% running in 2028 and I am convinced he is going to run for Durbin's seat in 2026 (if Durbin retires, and he should, he is already pushing 80). Pritzker has the progressive credentials, a solid track record, and no major skeletons.
Please god no. We need to stop giving billionaires more power. Dude would just further bullshit neoliberal politics while the working class continues to suffer.
Enough with the billionaire politicians.
I love JB and think he'd make a great president. But, the United States is simply not going to elect a Jewish president in the foreseeable future.
I ….. didn’t even know he’s Jewish until just now.
Me neither.
I don't see the US ever having a Jewish president.
I think he or Polis or Walz would make fine Presidents.
I’d love to see Jamie Raskin run . Pritzker would get my vote if he ran.
He would be a solid candidate. Would be interesting to see the process play out and who else would be in the field. I would classify myself as an independent voter and just want the best person to get the job. I couldn’t give a 💩 if it’s a d or r behind their name
I feel like it’s possible although the PICA ban is going to lose him most of the swing states
Honestly I don't see it happening. He's not interesting enough to win a primary.
lol, sure
Fuck no
Hell no
No more billionaires ruling the commoners
He can fuck off. His gun control has lost me as a voter permanently. I will not vote for any politician who runs on a gun control platform. But being outside of Chicago, my vote doesn't mean anything anyway.
HELL NO!!!!!!
sign me up but also get him on some glp-1 drugs so he can serve full 8 years
No. Illinois will probably get a worse governor if he leaves.
Nope
I just don't understand the Biden hate from the left. He's the most progressive president in modern history. He has done more for progressive causes than any president in modern times. The Inflation Reduction Act alone is the most substantial overhaul of the countries economic system in modern history. It is nothing short of revolutionary. **Anyone who argues the Biden Administration hasn't been progressive enough on economic issues simply isn't paying attention.** There is a reason both Warren and Bernie are completely and totally behind Biden. AOC is in Biden's camp. There isn't a progressive who's actually paying attention who thinks Biden is a bad choice this cycle. Look, he's not the perfect candidate. But to pretend that we shouldn't re-elect him is to just not be paying attention to what's happening. I'd like him to take a harder line on Israel (he's been wagging his finger at the IDF, more than any other president has ever done, but still not enough), and he's thrown bones to oil and gas (after *gutting* their federal subsidies), but at the end of the day he's far far FAR more progressive than anyone could have hoped and he's gotten more done than Obama or Clinton before him. Do some research on what he's *actually* done. It's very impressive. He's far from a lame duck or mindless old man. /rant over I'm off to the city. Fight amongst yourselves.
Yeah, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I see people talk about Biden. I'm 32 years old, and Biden's administration has easily been the best I've seen in terms of actually getting stuff done. I don't understand why people dislike him so much other than hurr durr sleepy Joe stuff. It's mind boggling
Not once voters realize his record on credit improvements are based on federal dollars, and he is ignoring the pension crisis. So many want to finger point at Rauner without looking at what he was trying to do.
JB has been an awful governor and would be a more awful president.
F*** no. I'll give him credit for not screwing over the state employees, but everything else the guys done has been a tragedy.
‘Everything’ or just gun control?
Everything.
Any examples you’d be willing to share?
Can you name anything positive that he's done for the citizens of the state of Illinois? You already pointed out that he's tried to trash our second amendment rights. Increase taxes and fees, catch and release policy for criminals, pretty much look up anything he signed into law. The fact that the state is consistently losing population ever since he's been in office should be your first clue.
9 credit upgrades. I wish we had even stricter gun laws. I don’t particularly like taxes but the state has a lot of debt. I haven’t seen any issues with the SAFE-T act but time will tell.
I can't imagine why someone would want to give up their rights. Your ancestors fought hard so that you could have them. More laws on guns only hurt law abiding citizens.
JB is a crook, u guys cant be serious.
Uh no thank you🤢
We need more elite American families to hold high levels of government power, you know, for the good of the republic.
Being the worst governor in the nation makes him imminently qualified to be president.
How is Pritzker the worst governor in the nation? Show your work.
What makes him the worst governor in the nation?
2nd highest property taxes in the nation. Public pension liability that cannot be met. High crime in every metropolitan area. Safety Act. Removed the toilets in one of his properties to avoid property taxes,and wasn’t prosecuted. These for STARTERS.
In what way is Pritzker responsible for property taxes? The state doesn’t levy property taxes. How is Pritzker responsible for pension liabilities? Illinois metropolitan areas have lower crime rates than much of the country. The sky hasn’t fallen yet from the SAFE-T act. Who cares about the toilets? It’s time to get another example if you want to make him out to be the poster child of corruption. The fact that this is the only example that is given says a lot about how little evidence of corruption there js.
Truer words have never been spoken!
Not as well known across the country as you think he is. And do you mean to have him go against a sitting incumbent President from his own party?
Never
He basically flew in from California and bought the election here. Not a fan of him putting the party before the people. He killed a lot of small businesses with his disastrous covid response lock-downs while blasting what Florida was doing. Then flys himself and his family down to Florida. wtf?? I wouldn't vote for him.
Too fat, too corrupt.
Unfortunately, America would never elect a Jew as president.
I’d vote for JB! I voted for him as our Governor 🙌🏻💙
He’s got a better chance than Biden does that’s for sure. I certainly think he’d do a little better in purple states than someone like Gavin Newsome. Unfortunately looks like Biden is set on running again so a president Trump in 2024 is looking increasingly likely.
I'd be happy with him, but if the current set of known governors potentially in the running in 2028, I'd probably go for Whitmer. Then we can keep him. 2024 I'm voting for Biden, no question.
He’s the one person keeping Brandon Johnson in any kind of check. JB has to remain in office at least until BJ is a bad memory.
How is he keeping BJ in check? I hope he's enjoying his one term as Mayor....
BJ has all kinds of ideas for new taxes like a financial transactions tax but JB has reportedly told them they’re non-starters because they’d drive firms like CBOE out of the city faster than he could whine about being a dad who has to take his kids to soccer practice (yes…that really happened). I’m sure Johnson hates every day of his mayoral term as much as the rest of us do. Hopefully he hates it enough to resign at some point.
I live downstate… what do you dislike about BJ? I try to read up on what is going on up in Chicago.
He’s a disaster. Just when you think he can’t sound more foolish or incompetent or use his race or the fact that he was a middle school teacher for about six minutes to excuse his incompetence, he comes up with something even crazier or more stupid than what he’s said before. He’s done nothing that I respect and I have a feeling I’m not alone.
Can you give me an example of something he has done or planned to do that demonstrates this?
Google “Brighton Park Migrant Camp” or “CPS Selective Enrollment” and you’ll see plenty of examples.
I thought billionaires were bad? Oh wait, billionaires you don’t agree with are bad!
hey pritzker and co. get out of the sub
🤮
Please no
I don’t think Pritzker will ever be able to become President. I could see him holding a major position in a Democratic administration though. It’s not just that he’s a very liberal governor, I think it’s the fact that it’s Illinois which has a very negative national image thanks to corruption scandals and crime problems, whether or not it’s fair. Plus he’s obese which does matter since a lot of people make voting decisions based on looks. I’d sooner expect a Gavin Newsom presidency before a Pritzker one
Selfishly, no. We need him here.
Hell no. What a joke of a governor.