Oh good, I’m so glad that she is still fighting so hard the get what she ~unnecessarily~ needs to ~munch~ stay alive! How dare the doctor say there’s nothing ~physically~ wrong! /s
This sounded like a horribly written soap opera.. which is horrible i it if it’s self lol
I looooove when people post videos and pictures of them crying bc it’s soooooo silly. Get a grip! She could’ve posted a picture of literally anything else and still got the message across in her caption
Honestly, if a patient of mine genuinely felt like this, I would consider it a severe failure in my communication.
There are some factors that could be mitigated. Raising the bed height (if possible) can reduce the feeling of being talked down to, loomed over, or being “suffocated” in a tiny bed space. Clearly communicating why delays in treatment are occurring, and that they have not been forgotten about, is essential to prevent the pt from loosing trust in providers and institutions. Taking a few minutes to sit (get down on their level) with the patient, and check in is nice to let them know that you see them as a person, and not just an item to cross off on your to do list. Remembering details for future pt encounters will help you here. “Advocating” until one sobs and shakes is NOT normal, and if this happened as she says it has, there needs to be a reassertion of both patient and provider roles, social worker involvement, and (as above) explanation when procedures are delayed, canceled, or changed to reflect a change in the pts condition.
In saying that, she is evidently not currently emergent. I am unsure if this is something she has misconstrued, or if she is outright lying to her followers, but it would be done as soon as humanly possible. Even if the GJ needed to wait until availability of theatre, IR, surgeon, etc, there would’ve been some attempt to drop a nasal tube.
You seem like a really humane and empathetic medical professional; whenever I read comments like this one, I can’t help but get angry at munchies... they’re like vampires, taking advantage of kind hearted people, preying on professionals who care about treating their patients in a humanitarian way.
That said, your work is appreciated and I truly believe health professionals like you are needed to improve the system.
I think sometimes in the echo chamber of IF, it’s hard to conceptualise subjects as whole people with complexities like everyone else. Many here seem to struggle with severely distorted self image, eating disorders, and extensive mental health histories. Some of their actions are absolutely abhorrent, and I’m not going to try to justify that. It is frustrating, and we need a strong multidisciplinary approach to combat those (because it’s late and I can’t think of a better word) compulsions.
Most pts aren’t out to get you.
Remember she was out downing shots just 2 weeks ago.
And her precious NJ tube has been used to bung alcohol down - evidenced by her posting from a beer garden doing just that.
MiA doesn't *need* ANY type of feeding tube is the issue here, so you have defo hit the nail on the head with her outright lying to her followers, who are also all MiA clones.
She is the type of patient who, if you're *too* nice, will claim in her next post that you cried with her at the bedside about how sick and brave she is, or - as we heard not so long ago, you are going to take her on a nationwide dr-patient tour to educate hospitals and medical professionals on EDS.
This is the level of crazy we are at with MiA.
>_"or - as we heard not so long ago, you are going to take her on a nationwide dr-patient tour to educate hospitals and medical professionals on EDS."_
Uhhhh ex-squeeze me what? I must have been watering my fish when that happened....
Yeah, I’m not disputing that she sustains oral intake (alcohol at that) and doesn’t need a tube. My concern is that these kind of interactions do happen and are avoidable.
We’ve both pointed out that there are a level of lies/ inconsistencies at the very least, and it is possible that this either didn’t happen, or the events leading up to it were very different than she claims. I’ve seen pts react like this on occasion when medically ready to be discharged (but “having issues with transition to community based care”), or when pts aren’t prescribed exactly what they want (drugs, procedures, etc).
Bed blocking for an entire week because of her fake ass hunger strike.
Keen to see where this goes as she is off to a concert soon and no doubt has conned her way on to the disabled access platform with her Argos wheelchair and as well as unnecessarily having her *golden handbag* on display, she wants her nj back at the very least.
I hope the NHS drs have more resolve than Dani's in the US and don't cave into her tantrums.
According to MiA she is heading into week 3 of NO nutrition....
Well, obviously they just have evil doctors who don’t want them to succeed. Or idiot doctors who don’t know how to diagnose their ‘special zebra medical issues’. Or uncaring insurance companies that won’t approve the treatment they need….so on and so on.
Hahaha. It’s exhausting to read these people’s posts, I can’t imagine what it’s like to actively perpetuate these frauds 24/7. Ugh.
Tl:dr
Mia wants to be sicker than she is. The drs said “k but you’re not. You can go home”. She insisted and began fake crying and “shaking” for dramatic effect. They said “I understand this may be upsetting to hear, but you’re legit ok”. She now won’t leave the bed and is taking selfies.
She’s worked out she’s not an ‘emergency’ case with the NHS crisis going on - that’s what I get from this post from her. Poor girl is not as soopa sick as she wants anyone to think, and now they know that shes not as they can continuously delay these procedures and…. She still alive and kicking, oh and very much able to post online………
Prob a consultant, their sidekick and a couple of med students getting to meet a munchie in the wild for the first time.
And MiA didn't disappoint with her sobbing and shaking.
Possibly a teaching hospital. One dr and a few med students.
Or she wants to feel special so it’s one dr, then a nurse, a care tech, and like the phlebotomist
Maybe she’s referring to different kinds of doctors? We know they always exaggerate anyways so I could see them genuinely having that many and just not sharing the fact they likely aren’t even in the same building
That is the worst bit of writing I’ve seen. Why must it always be 9 paragraphs long to say exactly nothing? I was once told the louder someone is when arguing the more they are lying/wrong. Substitute that for the more you type….
So, she can tolerate fluid intake given the overwhelming evidence of her alcohol use but also can’t manage to drink meal replacement shakes to satisfy her nutritional needs? I can’t for the life of me figure out why she needs any sort of feeding apparatus (NJ or PEG tube) given the fact that she can clearly tolerate fluids orally. Somebody make it make sense!
"I'm not sharing this for pity."
Translations of the preceding paragraphs:
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME WHO IS LISTENING TO ME WHO IS CATERING TO ME WHO IS CANCELLING THEIR PLANS ON ME WHY IS NOBODY CODDLING MY AT MY BED AND TELLING ME HOW THEY FEEL SORRY FOR ME HOW DARE YOU TALK TO ME AS I LIE DOWN IN A HOSPITAL BED LIKE I WANT TO BE MEMEMEMME
Strange... Obviously Mia is in the UK, where the medical system has been perpetually overwhelmed for ages and all this has been made worse by recent doctor strikes. All of that could very easily account for Mia getting bumped repeatedly for her obviously not even close to emergency status tube placement in a hospital struggling to treat every illness and injury imaginable at the same time.
And yet...
Something in Mia's account is also very reminiscent of when Kaya was being given the runaround by the California hospitals for her clearly unnecessary lines some months back. Kaya reported being extremely frustrated with the hospitals there because they kept telling her that they couldn't "find the right lines", or they were on backorder, or out of stock, and kept giving Kaya an endless stream of what any other person would have recognized as utter bullshit. But, being too full of herself to even consider that the hospital would lie to her in such a manner, Kaya kept believing the lies and waited around, exactly what her doctors had hoped for, until they couldn't stall her off any longer. Then the line Kaya had been screeching about for months magically appeared. It's a miracle! Or, you know, a highly effective stall tactic....
Mia's account of conflicting excuses and being given the runaround at every turn is very reminiscent of what happened with Kaya back then. Yes, the hospital systems in the UK are overwhelmed and they certainly don't have time to be fooling around with an obvious munchie, but could it be possible that they are also adding stall tactics to the very legitimate overrun theatre time? Surely they've also noticed Mia getting more and more angry, not just at the wait, but also at having to pretend to not be able to eat for so long. Perhaps they're also looking to see just how long Mia is willing to hold out on this claim of being unable to eat?
If this theory is correct on any level, it's a fascinating idea.
Correction, Kaya was staying with the same hospital in Los Angeles and trying to work with her “team” at that hospital (basically her allergist/immunologist) due to her alleged polyurethane allergy.
Yeah, she's like the boy who cried wolf. I'm sure it's happened to her, but jeez she acts like every single medical provider is against her and rude. She supposedly spent months in the hospital. Is that not her doctors advocating for her to find out what's wrong? She's an entitled faker
It’s like the saying “if anyone else around you is wrong, you probably are”. What are the chances that literally every single doctor and healthcare professional is either uneducated or lying, and she just happens to know more than everyone?
Yeah, crap doctors definitely exist and are a problem but it appears she only ever encounters bad doctors never good ones which is odd especially with how many she sees, like it’s hard to imagine going through all those doctors and none of them helping her especially after already being diagnosed
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- not quite the way Mia seems to be using the word, is it…
Advocate, verb: "to support or argue for (a cause, policy, etc.) : to plead in favor of"
She's used the word correctly, but whether she's actually doing as she says is a whole different matter.
She does...she does know that there was a doctor's strike in the UK from Monday 2nd Oct till Thursday 5th Oct right? The NHS is already overworked and bursting at the seams as it is (thank you wonk ass governments!) so maybe, *just maybe*, they would prioritise patients in order of urgency with a smaller team of staff not on strike. Someone needed attention quicker than her. Just how it works.
MiA needs to chill and be somewhat thankful that there were still staff to give her treatment and asspats, and stop spitting bile at staff just because she didn't get her nj tube faster.
Sidenote, after a while being on this sub I've realised how much I loathe the term "speaking my truth" lol
She went in on purpose last Friday and seemed quite sure she was getting her PEGJ as a sooooper urgent emergency on Tuesday. Then her assumption of really being seen as a serious emergency spectacularly backfired.
Hard to not laugh at her utter stupidity at this point!
No offense at all to the OP but this should have been titled "Mia had to BEG till she cried" 😂 I love how all these munchies say "I'm not sharing this for pity" It's always for awareness or so someone else doesn't feel so alone. WHAT A CROCK! Of course you are sharing this for pity why attach the picture of you in tears otherwise?
While I agree that one needs to advocate for themselves a lot with medical systems being strung out so thin right now, I do also think that she may not know what the definition of “basic needs” is. I guarantee her basic needs are being met: food, water, shelter, clothes.
This is just then saying
‘Sorry your not on todays list, we had to prioritise other parents for theatre’ after she has been NPO all day waiting…. But considering she can eat orally this shouldn’t be an issue or trigger for her!!
I’m a peads nurse and I see kids who are reliant on tubes for nutrition get bumped off the list for days in end and it’s excruciating to watch. She can’t even last a few days and she doesn’t even need it 🤦♀️
I believe that patients need to advocate for themselves because doctors do have a habit of invalidating their patients, especially those who are experiencing symptoms that don’t match the test results. But working yourself up into a tantrum because you want to be fed through a tube for attention is not the same thing at all.
"Advocate till she cried" From what I see she just did what a Karen does best raise their voice and try to make out that everyone is the bad guy but them...
There is no way she was truthful with the docs about her drinking!
She's probably said she "sips" alcoholic drinks on occasion, but forgot to say that the occasion is frequent and it's always a binge drinking situation.
She’s so ridiculous. Does SHE not understand that the NHS is stretched to the brink because of successive Tory governments choosing to cut into the budget rather than give it what it needs to function? That the doctors and nurses and other health staff are underpaid and exhausted and expected to shoulder more than they can carry? Does she not understand the strain that the national health system is under in the UK? Doctors are literally striking right now, but all I hear from her is me, me, me.
I understand that someone with a legit chronic health issue could have these sorts of struggles, being heard and understood, but with Mia it’s appropriation. How much do you want to bet that her sobbing and screaming is because of being told no?
Her sobbing and screaming was probably really due to someone else enjoying some McDonald’s again! (Hopefully it was all 4 doctors that ate it right before talking to her and they just reeked of Big Macs. And fries. While holding some McDonald’s coffee cups.)
Non MCAS related random reactions to things are also pretty standard with EDS and not something major to worry about usually you just get on with life or if something becomes an issue like repeated skin reactions you can see a GP and they’ll usually perscribe a cream to manage it, like I get it could worry you at first but if your diagnosed with EDS and tell your doctor about repeated reactions (minor ones) they’ll reassure you it’s most likely just your EDS (obvs anaphylaxis is different and is an emergency).
Many chronically I’ll people avoid hospital as you’ll typically have meds and things that help to manage at home, most chronic things not much can be instantly done to help so being in a hospital room on either an uncomfortable bed or chair surrounded by bright lights, noise and people who potentially could pass on something to you while you wait for hours while in pain or unwell sounds like hell, unless something is out of place and needs putting back in, your acutely ill on top of your chronic illness (e.g. you have a broken bone or appendicitis) or your experiencing an emergency (seizures over 5 mins, anaphylaxis, etc…) then it’s better to stay home and if the issue continues like higher pain levels then arrange a normal doctors appointment to discuss management of symptoms (there are some exceptions to this with chronic illnesses that come with much higher immediate health risks but that’s different)
I knew a lady years ago with genuine mcas. We couldn't wear perfumes, use cleaning products, all the usual things. One day she got in her car after it was serviced by a garage and had a real anaphylaxis to some brake cleaner they'd accidentally sprayed into the interior. She was in hospital for a week and had to get her car carpets completely replaced and was on very strong medicines for months. Mia claims mcas cos her skin goes red after drinking.
The problem is that there's such thing as advocating for one's care, and being a pain in the doctor's ass by acting like you know better than the people who spent a good chunk of their lives going to school to do this.
Empty apologies this, idle promises that.
Mia acts like the NHS is supposed to bend knee and drop everything they're doing to cater to her needs, when in fact she's the lowest rung on the totem pole not because _actual_ emergencies trump hers, but because she's being a pain in the ass to the staff with her brand of advocating until she's shaking and sobbing and hoarse in voice.
If Mia's situation was an emergency, it would be treated like an emergency. Even with the NHS strikes if it were an emergnecy they'd find people to work in an emergency.
also: falsies with mascara and yet she doesn't have a black river down her face from her 'shaking and sobbing'?
Know what I'm tired of? I'm tired of these dings dongs claiming that somehow ALL the doctors and nurses charged with their care are cruel and incompetent. I would bet anything there's some verbal assault and harassment coming from Mia and most of these dingleberries, which they of course would never mention.
I also now loathe the word "advocate".
But only when the munchies aren't getting what they want. Dani is an excellent example of munchie speak:
Yes to opioids = staff is amazing
No to opioids = staff is the worst ever
Exactly what I thought lol
Bet they called her out.
When someone has got 4 professionals of a field, 4 experts in a subject, ALL telling them the same thing, it’s time to take a minute and realize that maybe YOU are the problem.
I’d argue that in certain situations it’s good to be treated like a statistic. In situations like these, a statistic gives a map of how to treat things. X% of people with x symptoms have y or z. You treat y with abc, z is treated with efg. Failing that working, treat with ghi, let’s mix beh together. X% of patients may also experience J as a comorbidity, so let’s add medication P to manage the symptoms that don’t fit but are presenting.
If it’s *such* an emergency, you need doctors that are quickly filing through statistics to get you stable asap. Talk is for later. Intervention is now. Can that thinking feel cold and make one feel small? Absolutely. But there is a method to the madness. They care A LOT. They’re cool in crises. Those are the best hands you can be in. The people persons may feel all warm and fuzzy, but they have a higher chance of being ineffective because they’re interrupting your care to give you sympathy.
Actually shocked this person was in the medical field and doesn’t understand this.
Do you want them to have a map or be going sight seeing and getting lost in the backroads of incidentals?
Oh right, they’re munchies. They loooove incidentals.
It’s really telling, isn’t it? It’s more confirmation that they aren’t as concerned with fast, effective treatment for emergent or acute illness or whatever. They want the attention, and to be treated like the most special person on the floor. People who are truly ill in Emergency do not care if their medical providers are being nice or giving them extra time and warm fuzzies. They are concerned with not dying.
It’s a major feature in munching- wanting special attention.
*Of course* good bedside manner and communication is vital in healthcare. But there are priorities and things that need to be addressed first. Either she’s so sick they need to provide care that way, or she’s not sick enough that they can coddle her.
Extremely telling.
Not only that, hospitals and healthcare professionals have TONS of other patients. Efficiency is key for proper care.
But, main character syndrome AF.
Does she have anyone with her, if she’s autistic even when wards have restricted visiting they typically allow you to have an advocate to help you make sure you understand everything and are able to communicate your needs fully they can either emotionally support you or help you communicate. Even just for outpatient appointments you’ll see signs saying “please attend alone however if you have a disability that means you need to bring someone with you please inform the receptionist” (this was also the case during the pandemic at least at my local hospital *UK* for outpatient appointments) this includes autistic people and if she claims autism along with medical PTSD and feeling vulnerable she would be entitled to support with her especially during planned times like ward rounds where she may be being told lots of information (given many autistic people have difficulty processing lots of information quickly and communicating back any needs this makes it easier for patients but also easier for doctors)
“Plans being made and not going ahead” is part and parcel of being on an emergency list, it means someone is worse off than you if your case gets bumped. Be thankful you are in a position to wait. It’s scary how immature this girl is considering she had started training to be a nurse. She doesn’t seem to gather that she might “sob & shake” because she hasn’t had her way but she should be thankful it isn’t her family doing that at her bedside because she is gravely ill, which no doubt plenty of family members of those in need of emergent surgery will be.
I wonder if the tantrum has anything to do with a new Consultant being on rounds next week. They might not just be as receptive to Mia’s bullshit.
Exactly. The hospital is the worst place to be if you're someone who craves predictability. You can get bumped for an emergent case, have your procedure rescheduled because your morning lab values are concerning, etc.
Exacty. Explaining to patients that their emergent surgery is being pushed back because someone more emergent has to go ahead in front of them is difficult because either patient understands or they don’t. The only way I can say it better is you’re not dying right this minute and the other person is. 🤷🏼♀️
Oh no! On top of a *very* overwhelmed NHS, there's now a period of doctor strikes, and I can't be the super special main character because people with genuine emergencies are getting the care ***I*** should be getting! \*stomps foot and pouts\*
And those word choices.
"*sob and shake"*
"*heartbreaking"*
"*suffocating"*
The hyperbole is strong with this one.
She’s so dramatic! Yet I’m sure when something comes up that SHE wants to do, such as guzzling down alcohol at a sickfluencer event (despite being in quote unquote “intestinal failure”) she won’t have any issue doing so.
So, I hope no-one deliveroo orders mcds for their supper tonight. It's hard enough to get in. Maybe she should just let interventional radiology put an NJ since if she's truly been nbo all this time surely she will shrivel and waste away before Monday
And made sure the Nil by Mouth instruction was visible so there can be no doubt of her super duper gastric issues and definitely not sneaking Maccy D's under the sheets ever....
Edited to add....are they keeping her nil by mouth so they know she's not trying to throw off test results? Hence the tantrums
See, I am certain the reason it is such a BIG deal now is that she doesn't actually adhere to the NBM in her everyday life (in US we call it NPO) and she is being forced to in the hospital, waiting for the "emergent" procedure. She's getting \*ahem\* uncomfortable as she waits for her special toob that she obviously doesn't really need.
Prior to that she was on sips of water only ie what she’ll have was her only oral intake. Being made to stick to it will be making her very grumpy indeed.
Eyelash extensions need a lot of attention and upkeep to look good (appointments as soon as every TWO WEEKS), so it might be harder to make time for while she munches away in the hospital.
Or if she has an issue with the NHS and wants to advocate she could join an actual patient advocacy group and try and do some good helping improve care for all patients, they’re are groups all around the country.
If they wanted to place a PEG-J tube they’d be doing that, not giving her another NJ tube. Taking about 5 minutes more & just getting it done makes vastly more sense than using 2 theatre slots & doubling Mia’s exposure to GA. (Though obviously it’s hugely unlikely they’re actually wasting a theatre slot on her: IR is obvious solution, both for another NJ; & then they could do a RIG-J with no sedation just local anaesthetic if they actually wanted to do “permanent” tube.)
All the PEG tubes I see my patients get placed are usually under twilight sedation at the most. Get some fentanyl and midaz as well as local anesthesia and it’s a pretty quick procedure as well
It’s how Mia’s SPC was placed apparently 🤔
I don’t imagine it’s much fun, but they do things like major hip & knee surgery - including replacements - with only spinal anaesthetic all the time & they take ages & the sounds are grim 🤷♀️
No, in the UK - sometimes people have sedation (either deep or twilight) as well as the spinal, but it’s quite usual for people to be awake & alert. As per this Royal College of Anaesthetists’ [leaflet](https://www.rcoa.ac.uk/sites/default/files/documents/2023-09/04-HipKnee2023web.pdf) some settings allow/encourage patients to bring what they need to to be able to listen to music 😊
that or she's being told something completely different but the actual reason isn't dramatic enough for social media so it's this razzy award nonsense.
Oh good, I’m so glad that she is still fighting so hard the get what she ~unnecessarily~ needs to ~munch~ stay alive! How dare the doctor say there’s nothing ~physically~ wrong! /s This sounded like a horribly written soap opera.. which is horrible i it if it’s self lol
I looooove when people post videos and pictures of them crying bc it’s soooooo silly. Get a grip! She could’ve posted a picture of literally anything else and still got the message across in her caption
I’m glad I’m not to only one thinking like this lol
Mia have a snickers.. you turn into a right diva when your hungry 🥜🍫
She can't, she's NBM judging by the board behind her that just happens to be in view of the photo 🤔
Heartbreaking.🥱
Honestly, if a patient of mine genuinely felt like this, I would consider it a severe failure in my communication. There are some factors that could be mitigated. Raising the bed height (if possible) can reduce the feeling of being talked down to, loomed over, or being “suffocated” in a tiny bed space. Clearly communicating why delays in treatment are occurring, and that they have not been forgotten about, is essential to prevent the pt from loosing trust in providers and institutions. Taking a few minutes to sit (get down on their level) with the patient, and check in is nice to let them know that you see them as a person, and not just an item to cross off on your to do list. Remembering details for future pt encounters will help you here. “Advocating” until one sobs and shakes is NOT normal, and if this happened as she says it has, there needs to be a reassertion of both patient and provider roles, social worker involvement, and (as above) explanation when procedures are delayed, canceled, or changed to reflect a change in the pts condition. In saying that, she is evidently not currently emergent. I am unsure if this is something she has misconstrued, or if she is outright lying to her followers, but it would be done as soon as humanly possible. Even if the GJ needed to wait until availability of theatre, IR, surgeon, etc, there would’ve been some attempt to drop a nasal tube.
You seem like a really humane and empathetic medical professional; whenever I read comments like this one, I can’t help but get angry at munchies... they’re like vampires, taking advantage of kind hearted people, preying on professionals who care about treating their patients in a humanitarian way. That said, your work is appreciated and I truly believe health professionals like you are needed to improve the system.
I think sometimes in the echo chamber of IF, it’s hard to conceptualise subjects as whole people with complexities like everyone else. Many here seem to struggle with severely distorted self image, eating disorders, and extensive mental health histories. Some of their actions are absolutely abhorrent, and I’m not going to try to justify that. It is frustrating, and we need a strong multidisciplinary approach to combat those (because it’s late and I can’t think of a better word) compulsions. Most pts aren’t out to get you.
Remember she was out downing shots just 2 weeks ago. And her precious NJ tube has been used to bung alcohol down - evidenced by her posting from a beer garden doing just that. MiA doesn't *need* ANY type of feeding tube is the issue here, so you have defo hit the nail on the head with her outright lying to her followers, who are also all MiA clones. She is the type of patient who, if you're *too* nice, will claim in her next post that you cried with her at the bedside about how sick and brave she is, or - as we heard not so long ago, you are going to take her on a nationwide dr-patient tour to educate hospitals and medical professionals on EDS. This is the level of crazy we are at with MiA.
>_"or - as we heard not so long ago, you are going to take her on a nationwide dr-patient tour to educate hospitals and medical professionals on EDS."_ Uhhhh ex-squeeze me what? I must have been watering my fish when that happened....
[Mia's patient-doctor tour](https://reddit.com/r/illnessfakers/s/M1GhoYOAZb)
Yeah, I’m not disputing that she sustains oral intake (alcohol at that) and doesn’t need a tube. My concern is that these kind of interactions do happen and are avoidable. We’ve both pointed out that there are a level of lies/ inconsistencies at the very least, and it is possible that this either didn’t happen, or the events leading up to it were very different than she claims. I’ve seen pts react like this on occasion when medically ready to be discharged (but “having issues with transition to community based care”), or when pts aren’t prescribed exactly what they want (drugs, procedures, etc).
Bed blocking for an entire week because of her fake ass hunger strike. Keen to see where this goes as she is off to a concert soon and no doubt has conned her way on to the disabled access platform with her Argos wheelchair and as well as unnecessarily having her *golden handbag* on display, she wants her nj back at the very least. I hope the NHS drs have more resolve than Dani's in the US and don't cave into her tantrums. According to MiA she is heading into week 3 of NO nutrition....
week 3 of no nutrition and not lost any weight…
Riiight. 3 weeks of nothing 🙄
that might mean…. the doctors don’t agree
For a group of people who get their high from hospitals and doctors. They sure hate doctors
Well, obviously they just have evil doctors who don’t want them to succeed. Or idiot doctors who don’t know how to diagnose their ‘special zebra medical issues’. Or uncaring insurance companies that won’t approve the treatment they need….so on and so on. Hahaha. It’s exhausting to read these people’s posts, I can’t imagine what it’s like to actively perpetuate these frauds 24/7. Ugh.
Wow she’s just so selfless going on this tirade about what a victim she is just so others don’t feel so alone. Someone should give her a medal.
Tl:dr Mia wants to be sicker than she is. The drs said “k but you’re not. You can go home”. She insisted and began fake crying and “shaking” for dramatic effect. They said “I understand this may be upsetting to hear, but you’re legit ok”. She now won’t leave the bed and is taking selfies.
Sounds about right.
Word salad 🥗
She’s worked out she’s not an ‘emergency’ case with the NHS crisis going on - that’s what I get from this post from her. Poor girl is not as soopa sick as she wants anyone to think, and now they know that shes not as they can continuously delay these procedures and…. She still alive and kicking, oh and very much able to post online………
Four doctors at once didn’t happen LMAO
Teaching hospitals in Aus will often have four doctors come into a room at once.
Prob a consultant, their sidekick and a couple of med students getting to meet a munchie in the wild for the first time. And MiA didn't disappoint with her sobbing and shaking.
Possibly a teaching hospital. One dr and a few med students. Or she wants to feel special so it’s one dr, then a nurse, a care tech, and like the phlebotomist
....or the domestic staff and someone to repair the bedside TV🤣
I know that I’m just dunking on her lol. I work in a hospital.
That really depends on their scope of practice. It's definitely possible
Maybe she’s referring to different kinds of doctors? We know they always exaggerate anyways so I could see them genuinely having that many and just not sharing the fact they likely aren’t even in the same building
Fair but this is IF
That is the worst bit of writing I’ve seen. Why must it always be 9 paragraphs long to say exactly nothing? I was once told the louder someone is when arguing the more they are lying/wrong. Substitute that for the more you type….
I actually laughed out loud at “9 paragraphs to say nothing” lmfao someone should use that as a flair
Could get confusing as to which munchie owns that flair. Jessi and their tertiary-level "creative writing" would give Mia a good run for her money.
Hey, it could be a blanket statement type of flair. Just pick your favorite and you’re right!
I can’t stand when people post photos of themselves crying
It’s free sympathy points!
[No tubes?](https://i.imgflip.com/65939r.jpg?a471240)
you’re so funny for this i swear
So, she can tolerate fluid intake given the overwhelming evidence of her alcohol use but also can’t manage to drink meal replacement shakes to satisfy her nutritional needs? I can’t for the life of me figure out why she needs any sort of feeding apparatus (NJ or PEG tube) given the fact that she can clearly tolerate fluids orally. Somebody make it make sense!
How would anyone know it happened unless a crying selfie is attached?
"My" truth is not "the" truth.
"I'm not sharing this for pity." Translations of the preceding paragraphs: ME ME ME ME ME ME ME WHO IS LISTENING TO ME WHO IS CATERING TO ME WHO IS CANCELLING THEIR PLANS ON ME WHY IS NOBODY CODDLING MY AT MY BED AND TELLING ME HOW THEY FEEL SORRY FOR ME HOW DARE YOU TALK TO ME AS I LIE DOWN IN A HOSPITAL BED LIKE I WANT TO BE MEMEMEMME
You're a linguistic savant! Brilliantly done!
Thank you, dear! I KNEW that English degree would come in handy some day! :D
All of this flowery language is so exhausting to read. They live in a different dimension that us. I just can’t with the constant dramatics.
I just said this a few posts above. No wonder they are all so exhausted and bed bound….keeping up with these facades has too be draining!
“I’m not sharing this for pity” Survey says that’s a lie.
The crying selfie says otherwise 💀
I literally came here to make this comment word for word, it’s 100% for pity and attention.
Strange... Obviously Mia is in the UK, where the medical system has been perpetually overwhelmed for ages and all this has been made worse by recent doctor strikes. All of that could very easily account for Mia getting bumped repeatedly for her obviously not even close to emergency status tube placement in a hospital struggling to treat every illness and injury imaginable at the same time. And yet... Something in Mia's account is also very reminiscent of when Kaya was being given the runaround by the California hospitals for her clearly unnecessary lines some months back. Kaya reported being extremely frustrated with the hospitals there because they kept telling her that they couldn't "find the right lines", or they were on backorder, or out of stock, and kept giving Kaya an endless stream of what any other person would have recognized as utter bullshit. But, being too full of herself to even consider that the hospital would lie to her in such a manner, Kaya kept believing the lies and waited around, exactly what her doctors had hoped for, until they couldn't stall her off any longer. Then the line Kaya had been screeching about for months magically appeared. It's a miracle! Or, you know, a highly effective stall tactic.... Mia's account of conflicting excuses and being given the runaround at every turn is very reminiscent of what happened with Kaya back then. Yes, the hospital systems in the UK are overwhelmed and they certainly don't have time to be fooling around with an obvious munchie, but could it be possible that they are also adding stall tactics to the very legitimate overrun theatre time? Surely they've also noticed Mia getting more and more angry, not just at the wait, but also at having to pretend to not be able to eat for so long. Perhaps they're also looking to see just how long Mia is willing to hold out on this claim of being unable to eat? If this theory is correct on any level, it's a fascinating idea.
Correction, Kaya was staying with the same hospital in Los Angeles and trying to work with her “team” at that hospital (basically her allergist/immunologist) due to her alleged polyurethane allergy.
"where is the accountability?" Baaahahahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂
Maybe she should contact pals to see if they can find the accountability? /s
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Yeah, she's like the boy who cried wolf. I'm sure it's happened to her, but jeez she acts like every single medical provider is against her and rude. She supposedly spent months in the hospital. Is that not her doctors advocating for her to find out what's wrong? She's an entitled faker
It’s like the saying “if anyone else around you is wrong, you probably are”. What are the chances that literally every single doctor and healthcare professional is either uneducated or lying, and she just happens to know more than everyone?
Yeah, crap doctors definitely exist and are a problem but it appears she only ever encounters bad doctors never good ones which is odd especially with how many she sees, like it’s hard to imagine going through all those doctors and none of them helping her especially after already being diagnosed
Actual definition of ADVOCATE Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more Search for a word advocate noun /ˈadvəkət/ a person who puts a case on someone else's behalf. - not quite the way Mia seems to be using the word, is it…
You can advocate for yourself.
Advocate, verb: "to support or argue for (a cause, policy, etc.) : to plead in favor of" She's used the word correctly, but whether she's actually doing as she says is a whole different matter.
She does...she does know that there was a doctor's strike in the UK from Monday 2nd Oct till Thursday 5th Oct right? The NHS is already overworked and bursting at the seams as it is (thank you wonk ass governments!) so maybe, *just maybe*, they would prioritise patients in order of urgency with a smaller team of staff not on strike. Someone needed attention quicker than her. Just how it works. MiA needs to chill and be somewhat thankful that there were still staff to give her treatment and asspats, and stop spitting bile at staff just because she didn't get her nj tube faster. Sidenote, after a while being on this sub I've realised how much I loathe the term "speaking my truth" lol
And “their” truth is rarely “THE” truth!
I was about post that. It's one of the most irksome munchie lines.
She went in on purpose last Friday and seemed quite sure she was getting her PEGJ as a sooooper urgent emergency on Tuesday. Then her assumption of really being seen as a serious emergency spectacularly backfired. Hard to not laugh at her utter stupidity at this point!
So no tube ?
No reenactment? :(
Is there any phrase more useless than "speaking my truth" ?
“Advocating”
No offense at all to the OP but this should have been titled "Mia had to BEG till she cried" 😂 I love how all these munchies say "I'm not sharing this for pity" It's always for awareness or so someone else doesn't feel so alone. WHAT A CROCK! Of course you are sharing this for pity why attach the picture of you in tears otherwise?
While I agree that one needs to advocate for themselves a lot with medical systems being strung out so thin right now, I do also think that she may not know what the definition of “basic needs” is. I guarantee her basic needs are being met: food, water, shelter, clothes.
This is just then saying ‘Sorry your not on todays list, we had to prioritise other parents for theatre’ after she has been NPO all day waiting…. But considering she can eat orally this shouldn’t be an issue or trigger for her!! I’m a peads nurse and I see kids who are reliant on tubes for nutrition get bumped off the list for days in end and it’s excruciating to watch. She can’t even last a few days and she doesn’t even need it 🤦♀️
God forbid someone needed an emergency HEART VALVE REPLACEMENT before Mia’s TUBE replacement. Girl needs to get over herself. She’s just hangry 🤷🏼♀️
I believe that patients need to advocate for themselves because doctors do have a habit of invalidating their patients, especially those who are experiencing symptoms that don’t match the test results. But working yourself up into a tantrum because you want to be fed through a tube for attention is not the same thing at all.
So well said!
"Advocate till she cried" From what I see she just did what a Karen does best raise their voice and try to make out that everyone is the bad guy but them...
Prob bc the hospital said it’s all bc of her drinking lol
There is no way she was truthful with the docs about her drinking! She's probably said she "sips" alcoholic drinks on occasion, but forgot to say that the occasion is frequent and it's always a binge drinking situation.
She’s so ridiculous. Does SHE not understand that the NHS is stretched to the brink because of successive Tory governments choosing to cut into the budget rather than give it what it needs to function? That the doctors and nurses and other health staff are underpaid and exhausted and expected to shoulder more than they can carry? Does she not understand the strain that the national health system is under in the UK? Doctors are literally striking right now, but all I hear from her is me, me, me. I understand that someone with a legit chronic health issue could have these sorts of struggles, being heard and understood, but with Mia it’s appropriation. How much do you want to bet that her sobbing and screaming is because of being told no?
Her sobbing and screaming was probably really due to someone else enjoying some McDonald’s again! (Hopefully it was all 4 doctors that ate it right before talking to her and they just reeked of Big Macs. And fries. While holding some McDonald’s coffee cups.)
Hah! The girl is hangry AF
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Non MCAS related random reactions to things are also pretty standard with EDS and not something major to worry about usually you just get on with life or if something becomes an issue like repeated skin reactions you can see a GP and they’ll usually perscribe a cream to manage it, like I get it could worry you at first but if your diagnosed with EDS and tell your doctor about repeated reactions (minor ones) they’ll reassure you it’s most likely just your EDS (obvs anaphylaxis is different and is an emergency). Many chronically I’ll people avoid hospital as you’ll typically have meds and things that help to manage at home, most chronic things not much can be instantly done to help so being in a hospital room on either an uncomfortable bed or chair surrounded by bright lights, noise and people who potentially could pass on something to you while you wait for hours while in pain or unwell sounds like hell, unless something is out of place and needs putting back in, your acutely ill on top of your chronic illness (e.g. you have a broken bone or appendicitis) or your experiencing an emergency (seizures over 5 mins, anaphylaxis, etc…) then it’s better to stay home and if the issue continues like higher pain levels then arrange a normal doctors appointment to discuss management of symptoms (there are some exceptions to this with chronic illnesses that come with much higher immediate health risks but that’s different)
I knew a lady years ago with genuine mcas. We couldn't wear perfumes, use cleaning products, all the usual things. One day she got in her car after it was serviced by a garage and had a real anaphylaxis to some brake cleaner they'd accidentally sprayed into the interior. She was in hospital for a week and had to get her car carpets completely replaced and was on very strong medicines for months. Mia claims mcas cos her skin goes red after drinking.
This "red after drinking" thing happens a lot to Asian people I know. They call it "Asian flush", not MCAS lol. Edit: clarification
The problem is that there's such thing as advocating for one's care, and being a pain in the doctor's ass by acting like you know better than the people who spent a good chunk of their lives going to school to do this. Empty apologies this, idle promises that. Mia acts like the NHS is supposed to bend knee and drop everything they're doing to cater to her needs, when in fact she's the lowest rung on the totem pole not because _actual_ emergencies trump hers, but because she's being a pain in the ass to the staff with her brand of advocating until she's shaking and sobbing and hoarse in voice. If Mia's situation was an emergency, it would be treated like an emergency. Even with the NHS strikes if it were an emergnecy they'd find people to work in an emergency. also: falsies with mascara and yet she doesn't have a black river down her face from her 'shaking and sobbing'?
Know what I'm tired of? I'm tired of these dings dongs claiming that somehow ALL the doctors and nurses charged with their care are cruel and incompetent. I would bet anything there's some verbal assault and harassment coming from Mia and most of these dingleberries, which they of course would never mention. I also now loathe the word "advocate".
But only when the munchies aren't getting what they want. Dani is an excellent example of munchie speak: Yes to opioids = staff is amazing No to opioids = staff is the worst ever
Great point!
“I’m not sharing this for pity…” where is Maury and his polygraph test… “I’ve determined that’s a lie”…
Translation: Four overworked and tired doctors have had enough and told Mia to cut out her bull shit.
I would like to imagine that they played a game of 'not it' in regards to who had to talk to her, but then decided there was safety in numbers.
Exactly what I thought lol Bet they called her out. When someone has got 4 professionals of a field, 4 experts in a subject, ALL telling them the same thing, it’s time to take a minute and realize that maybe YOU are the problem.
Either that or it was the consultant on his ward round with 3 students and he was explaining to them what a malingerer is and how to spot them
Most likely they've had an MDT yday and all agreed MiA is a munchie and now it's just a case of getting psych liason to see her next week.
What does MDT stand for?
Multidisciplinary team
Multidisciplinary team (meeting)
Who's up for a handwriting comparison from the old floating clock photoshop to prove she wrote the NBM herself?
Ok, but isn’t it NPO?
“Nil by mouth” in the UK
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Ok, cool, I did not know that. Thanks!
She’d write NbM!
I’d argue that in certain situations it’s good to be treated like a statistic. In situations like these, a statistic gives a map of how to treat things. X% of people with x symptoms have y or z. You treat y with abc, z is treated with efg. Failing that working, treat with ghi, let’s mix beh together. X% of patients may also experience J as a comorbidity, so let’s add medication P to manage the symptoms that don’t fit but are presenting. If it’s *such* an emergency, you need doctors that are quickly filing through statistics to get you stable asap. Talk is for later. Intervention is now. Can that thinking feel cold and make one feel small? Absolutely. But there is a method to the madness. They care A LOT. They’re cool in crises. Those are the best hands you can be in. The people persons may feel all warm and fuzzy, but they have a higher chance of being ineffective because they’re interrupting your care to give you sympathy. Actually shocked this person was in the medical field and doesn’t understand this. Do you want them to have a map or be going sight seeing and getting lost in the backroads of incidentals? Oh right, they’re munchies. They loooove incidentals.
It’s really telling, isn’t it? It’s more confirmation that they aren’t as concerned with fast, effective treatment for emergent or acute illness or whatever. They want the attention, and to be treated like the most special person on the floor. People who are truly ill in Emergency do not care if their medical providers are being nice or giving them extra time and warm fuzzies. They are concerned with not dying.
It’s a major feature in munching- wanting special attention. *Of course* good bedside manner and communication is vital in healthcare. But there are priorities and things that need to be addressed first. Either she’s so sick they need to provide care that way, or she’s not sick enough that they can coddle her. Extremely telling. Not only that, hospitals and healthcare professionals have TONS of other patients. Efficiency is key for proper care. But, main character syndrome AF.
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Does she have anyone with her, if she’s autistic even when wards have restricted visiting they typically allow you to have an advocate to help you make sure you understand everything and are able to communicate your needs fully they can either emotionally support you or help you communicate. Even just for outpatient appointments you’ll see signs saying “please attend alone however if you have a disability that means you need to bring someone with you please inform the receptionist” (this was also the case during the pandemic at least at my local hospital *UK* for outpatient appointments) this includes autistic people and if she claims autism along with medical PTSD and feeling vulnerable she would be entitled to support with her especially during planned times like ward rounds where she may be being told lots of information (given many autistic people have difficulty processing lots of information quickly and communicating back any needs this makes it easier for patients but also easier for doctors)
Poor Mia being surrounded by four doctors towering over her smoll self in her lil’ bed. Wahhh 😭
“Plans being made and not going ahead” is part and parcel of being on an emergency list, it means someone is worse off than you if your case gets bumped. Be thankful you are in a position to wait. It’s scary how immature this girl is considering she had started training to be a nurse. She doesn’t seem to gather that she might “sob & shake” because she hasn’t had her way but she should be thankful it isn’t her family doing that at her bedside because she is gravely ill, which no doubt plenty of family members of those in need of emergent surgery will be. I wonder if the tantrum has anything to do with a new Consultant being on rounds next week. They might not just be as receptive to Mia’s bullshit.
Exactly. The hospital is the worst place to be if you're someone who craves predictability. You can get bumped for an emergent case, have your procedure rescheduled because your morning lab values are concerning, etc.
Exacty. Explaining to patients that their emergent surgery is being pushed back because someone more emergent has to go ahead in front of them is difficult because either patient understands or they don’t. The only way I can say it better is you’re not dying right this minute and the other person is. 🤷🏼♀️
She doesn’t even know the definitions of emergency or emergent. Like all children, she’s just pissed someone cut in front of her in line.
Oh no! On top of a *very* overwhelmed NHS, there's now a period of doctor strikes, and I can't be the super special main character because people with genuine emergencies are getting the care ***I*** should be getting! \*stomps foot and pouts\* And those word choices. "*sob and shake"* "*heartbreaking"* "*suffocating"* The hyperbole is strong with this one.
She’s so dramatic! Yet I’m sure when something comes up that SHE wants to do, such as guzzling down alcohol at a sickfluencer event (despite being in quote unquote “intestinal failure”) she won’t have any issue doing so.
She made a special effort to reverse the selfie pic so the hospital could be seen clearly
So, I hope no-one deliveroo orders mcds for their supper tonight. It's hard enough to get in. Maybe she should just let interventional radiology put an NJ since if she's truly been nbo all this time surely she will shrivel and waste away before Monday
She should go to private hospital if she’s so special and important…oh wait you have to pay for that.
Well she has that £3.5k from the go fraud me her ex bestie did for her...
She's really struggling to recognize that other people have needs too. She's not the main character or the most important patient.
Translation: I tried to use white woman tears to get my way cause I wasn’t getting itttt
Translation: I’m a big manipulative baby and I cry and throw tantrums to try to get what I want. Here’s a pic of me afterwards 🥺🤗
And made sure the Nil by Mouth instruction was visible so there can be no doubt of her super duper gastric issues and definitely not sneaking Maccy D's under the sheets ever.... Edited to add....are they keeping her nil by mouth so they know she's not trying to throw off test results? Hence the tantrums
See, I am certain the reason it is such a BIG deal now is that she doesn't actually adhere to the NBM in her everyday life (in US we call it NPO) and she is being forced to in the hospital, waiting for the "emergent" procedure. She's getting \*ahem\* uncomfortable as she waits for her special toob that she obviously doesn't really need.
My thoughts exactly
oh... i thought it meant no bowel movement :P
I think it's purely for surgery prep.
Prior to that she was on sips of water only ie what she’ll have was her only oral intake. Being made to stick to it will be making her very grumpy indeed.
Shame
i kind of just want to know what mascara that is. it didn’t run at all.
They're extensions I think?
oh. they look kind of… worn out.
Eyelash extensions need a lot of attention and upkeep to look good (appointments as soon as every TWO WEEKS), so it might be harder to make time for while she munches away in the hospital.
She’s such a drain on the NHS, my god
Can’t stand NHS bashers like this. She should get off her backside and go speak to the ward manager if she’s got an issue or take it to PALS.
Or if she has an issue with the NHS and wants to advocate she could join an actual patient advocacy group and try and do some good helping improve care for all patients, they’re are groups all around the country.
“Welcome to chronic illness life. 🤗”
Do we think that they actually don’t want to place the surgical tube that she’s been begging for?
If they wanted to place a PEG-J tube they’d be doing that, not giving her another NJ tube. Taking about 5 minutes more & just getting it done makes vastly more sense than using 2 theatre slots & doubling Mia’s exposure to GA. (Though obviously it’s hugely unlikely they’re actually wasting a theatre slot on her: IR is obvious solution, both for another NJ; & then they could do a RIG-J with no sedation just local anaesthetic if they actually wanted to do “permanent” tube.)
Oof I can’t imagine getting a surgical tube placed with no anesthesia other than local.
All the PEG tubes I see my patients get placed are usually under twilight sedation at the most. Get some fentanyl and midaz as well as local anesthesia and it’s a pretty quick procedure as well
It’s how Mia’s SPC was placed apparently 🤔 I don’t imagine it’s much fun, but they do things like major hip & knee surgery - including replacements - with only spinal anaesthetic all the time & they take ages & the sounds are grim 🤷♀️
😳 in the US? I know in the UK they have different protocols for use of anesthesia than in the US.
No, in the UK - sometimes people have sedation (either deep or twilight) as well as the spinal, but it’s quite usual for people to be awake & alert. As per this Royal College of Anaesthetists’ [leaflet](https://www.rcoa.ac.uk/sites/default/files/documents/2023-09/04-HipKnee2023web.pdf) some settings allow/encourage patients to bring what they need to to be able to listen to music 😊
that or she's being told something completely different but the actual reason isn't dramatic enough for social media so it's this razzy award nonsense.
I mean she's been without nutrition for over 2 weeks now and somehow still moaning so maybe they realised she's not telling all the truth....