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And the "make being homeless less viable". I've been homeless once, it wasn't even close to viable. It's a last option on the road to death kind of thing, no one is actually choosing this and definitely not "so they can do drugs and steal".
Hostile architecture is so fucking stupid because it often makes the environment worse for everyone, not just homeless people.
For example, subway stations that remove all the seating to prevent homeless people from staying there? Great. Now people with disabilities, or medical needs, or children, or the elderly, or anyone else who could use a seat now and again is fucked over too.
If govts that create hostile architecture spent as much time, money, and energy on improving the situation for all their citizens as they do on making the city a worse place to live for almost everyone then they’d have fewer homeless people.
It's the "We need to keep people who are unworthy from taking advantage of things" mindset that needs to stop. Do people take advantage of things? Yes absolutely. As a Filipino, I know that quite well. Here's a hyper specific example:
Companies that startup here offer perks at the office such as free food or free coffee or other free amenities but there's always that asshole that abuses these perks that hoard these amenities and **bring them home**. Now nobody gets free shit including those who actually need and respected the system.
We should also need to understand these people are a percent of a percent. Is it frustrating they exist? Yes but the people who are honest shouldn't suffer because of them.
Yeah. It’s the same as government assistance fraud. I’m sure some proportion of people on various government assistance programs are taking advantage of the program. But that doesn’t mean you shut the whole program down. I’m willing to accept a limited amount of abuse if the program as a whole helps more people. Obviously there is nuance to this specific example, but insisting that a whole system should be turned hostile because of some bad actors is generally an absurd overreaction.
Why do we insist on making everything worse for everyone in order to make sure that we're punishing certain classes of people? This has never made sense to me.
Generally public restrooms are associated with parks or other municipal facilities over here, due to our high amount of privately owned land (especially out east). Though the state of restroom availability differs on a city by city (town by town, etc.) basis.
I don’t know where people think the homeless will go after hostile architecture pushes them out. They won’t disappear, they’ll just find another place to stay (probably where people still are) or go to a different city.
Generally the sort of people who make these complaints are NIMBYs. They don't care where the homeless people go so long as they personally don't have to see them.
And the NIMBYs don't want any sort of development to provide affordable/subsided housing and/or social services for those people. It might mean that they could only sell their house for $1.3M instead of $1.5M when they decide to flee elsewhere.
I live in a city with a pretty significant homeless population. You see them everywhere. Yes, some of them are dangerous. But the vast majority of them are NOT. A lot of them are elderly or have physical disabilities. I can't say I'm surprised this guy supports Russia too.
As someone who sees homeless people almost every day: fuck this asswipe.
We have a large population of them too and I feel so freaking bad for them during the summers that average 110-120 degrees.
Also-Hostile architecture is hostile to everyone. These folks act like it’s only hostile to those they don’t like. I don’t want to live in some dystopian city.
And even the dangerous ones aren't at fault for their dangerousness. Most have severe addictions or mental illnesses and since shelters don't like accepting either they're stuck on the streets where the stress makes their problems worse.
This same guy thinks we should not care that Russia intends to enslave Ukraine, he knows he just doesn't care because he sees anything that doesn't affect him directly as someone else's problem. Aka a conservative.
Always makes me laugh Joe people on Reddit talk about other redditors as if they are some kind of superior being... "Oh look typical Reddit"... Buddy, you're on Reddit...
I work at a public library so I definitely get concerns around trying to keep large numbers of homeless people from loitering everywhere all the time. It really is an issue that makes public spaces harder for the general public to use. It can make things less safe because a lot of those people Are on drugs, which also attracts drug dealers and unsavory types to loiter and hang around. It can make the spaces less safe for members of the public who really need to use those services, people who can't afford to do something else.
But these fuckers (OOP) always try to turn it into some fucking blame game, acting like people are choosing to be homeless and choosing that kind of horrible life for themselves. It's just not true.
Empathy fatigue is real, I get it, but you have to try. You have to try to retain enough of your empathy to remember that attempting to manage homeless loitering is not worth making the space worse for literally everybody. It's not worth causing suffering.
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Its the “choose to live on the streets” that pushes it to absurdity
And the "make being homeless less viable". I've been homeless once, it wasn't even close to viable. It's a last option on the road to death kind of thing, no one is actually choosing this and definitely not "so they can do drugs and steal".
Whenever someone's argument boils down to "Why should I be subjected to this?", you know a powerful whiff of bigotry is soon to follow.
If we won't truly raise a finger to help our fellow man, then the question we should be asking ourselves is "Why *shouldn't* I be subjected to this?"
Just buy a house, geez 🙄
Hostile architecture is so fucking stupid because it often makes the environment worse for everyone, not just homeless people. For example, subway stations that remove all the seating to prevent homeless people from staying there? Great. Now people with disabilities, or medical needs, or children, or the elderly, or anyone else who could use a seat now and again is fucked over too. If govts that create hostile architecture spent as much time, money, and energy on improving the situation for all their citizens as they do on making the city a worse place to live for almost everyone then they’d have fewer homeless people.
It's the "We need to keep people who are unworthy from taking advantage of things" mindset that needs to stop. Do people take advantage of things? Yes absolutely. As a Filipino, I know that quite well. Here's a hyper specific example: Companies that startup here offer perks at the office such as free food or free coffee or other free amenities but there's always that asshole that abuses these perks that hoard these amenities and **bring them home**. Now nobody gets free shit including those who actually need and respected the system. We should also need to understand these people are a percent of a percent. Is it frustrating they exist? Yes but the people who are honest shouldn't suffer because of them.
Yeah. It’s the same as government assistance fraud. I’m sure some proportion of people on various government assistance programs are taking advantage of the program. But that doesn’t mean you shut the whole program down. I’m willing to accept a limited amount of abuse if the program as a whole helps more people. Obviously there is nuance to this specific example, but insisting that a whole system should be turned hostile because of some bad actors is generally an absurd overreaction.
Exactly. Make steps to prevent abuse or limit them and punish the abuseers not just stop trying to help people.
Why do we insist on making everything worse for everyone in order to make sure that we're punishing certain classes of people? This has never made sense to me.
I’m in America at the moment and the lack of public restrooms is so fucking infuriating
Generally public restrooms are associated with parks or other municipal facilities over here, due to our high amount of privately owned land (especially out east). Though the state of restroom availability differs on a city by city (town by town, etc.) basis.
I don’t know where people think the homeless will go after hostile architecture pushes them out. They won’t disappear, they’ll just find another place to stay (probably where people still are) or go to a different city.
Generally the sort of people who make these complaints are NIMBYs. They don't care where the homeless people go so long as they personally don't have to see them.
And the NIMBYs don't want any sort of development to provide affordable/subsided housing and/or social services for those people. It might mean that they could only sell their house for $1.3M instead of $1.5M when they decide to flee elsewhere.
I live in a city with a pretty significant homeless population. You see them everywhere. Yes, some of them are dangerous. But the vast majority of them are NOT. A lot of them are elderly or have physical disabilities. I can't say I'm surprised this guy supports Russia too. As someone who sees homeless people almost every day: fuck this asswipe.
We have a large population of them too and I feel so freaking bad for them during the summers that average 110-120 degrees. Also-Hostile architecture is hostile to everyone. These folks act like it’s only hostile to those they don’t like. I don’t want to live in some dystopian city.
And even the dangerous ones aren't at fault for their dangerousness. Most have severe addictions or mental illnesses and since shelters don't like accepting either they're stuck on the streets where the stress makes their problems worse.
He knows homeless people are people, right?
Either yes and doesn't care, or no. Not sure which is worse.
This same guy thinks we should not care that Russia intends to enslave Ukraine, he knows he just doesn't care because he sees anything that doesn't affect him directly as someone else's problem. Aka a conservative.
Always makes me laugh Joe people on Reddit talk about other redditors as if they are some kind of superior being... "Oh look typical Reddit"... Buddy, you're on Reddit...
Ah to be able to enjoy the fruits of relentlessly exploitative capitalism and not have to bear witness to its unsightly victims /s.
I think the silent majority are anti homeless people so…
I work at a public library so I definitely get concerns around trying to keep large numbers of homeless people from loitering everywhere all the time. It really is an issue that makes public spaces harder for the general public to use. It can make things less safe because a lot of those people Are on drugs, which also attracts drug dealers and unsavory types to loiter and hang around. It can make the spaces less safe for members of the public who really need to use those services, people who can't afford to do something else. But these fuckers (OOP) always try to turn it into some fucking blame game, acting like people are choosing to be homeless and choosing that kind of horrible life for themselves. It's just not true. Empathy fatigue is real, I get it, but you have to try. You have to try to retain enough of your empathy to remember that attempting to manage homeless loitering is not worth making the space worse for literally everybody. It's not worth causing suffering.