What a narcissistic asshole. "MY" Abortion story. 🙄

That stuck out to me too! Absolutely bat shit!

What a coincidence that tag is almost always about an abortion by someone other than the OP...

And then they whine about the family member who aborted being "selfish".

“She killed my grandchild/niece/nephew!” As if their female family member is just a vessel who owes them that kid. 🙄

There was also another story of OOP whining about their sister, who, btw, **was a raped minor (16)** who had an abortion, but, I reposted their post on to r/ProlifeCircleJerk (under an old account) back in October when the post was written and at-least quite a few people on there (the PL sub) and on r/ Catholics made them come to their senses to support their sister. The parents of them disowned and emotionally abused their daughter, **who was in major need of support,** they didn't even care their **16 year old daughter** was anorexic. Although I shouldn't advocate for forced sterilization, but, fuck, people like that shouldn't be allowed to have children. Isn't it not only immoral, but, also **illegal** to **emotionally abuse and neglect their MINOR child?** Even if the girl in the story was a 22 year old college student who had consensual sex (which I initially thought until I read the whole story), it's still immoral for the parents to neglect and emotionally abuse their child and the parents would still be assholes, even if they're legally an adult (a REAL parent stands behind their child, even if they don't agree with the child's decisions), but, since it was about a **raped minor,** the parents are **EVEN BIGGER** assholes and legally should have been up on charges for child abuse/neglect. PL - "My daughter/sister/niece/cousin killed my grandchild/nibling/grandnibling/cousin, she's such a selfish, baby killing whore!" Also PL - "*MY* abortion story" What about mmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?????????" They don't see the irony? The "My abortion story" post flair should ONLY be for women who had an abortion in the past and then became prolife, while they're still massive fuckin hypocrites, but, that's besides the point.

And proceeds to whines about her (then) 20 year old daughter being "selfish". Who exactly was Lily being "selfish" towards? Non-viable tissue? Even if it WAS "selfish" to abort a 10 week pregnancy (which it isn't), many 20 year old's ARE (by default) "selfish". What's OOP's excuse for being selfish? She's a grown ass woman with five children.

Yet another Catholic who won’t understand in 5-10 years why her husband left and none of her kids will talk to her anymore. She doesn’t even want to think about the fact that she is actively choosing her “pro family” faith over her family.

I swear these narc parents can't appreciate what they have. Her adult daughter earned a place at an elite university and all this woman can think about is imaginary grandbabies. A lot of moms would be thrilled to raise a smart, successful adult. That young student needs a better mother. You can't please everyone, so you shouldn't try. If you don't want a baby, get the abortion.

She's acting like her daughter's life would NOT have been over if she had it - when she knows damn well it would. Living in a box on the street is not too far off. The "I would help you" claims? How long would that last? How much of that "help" would include "you did this to yourself" "take responsibility for your actions" "you decided to have this kid so you can't do xyz"? Sounds like the daughter was smarter than to give her mother ANYTHING to hold over her head.

I suspect the daughter would have heard all that and more. It's definitely not worth derailing her life goals to have a child for her mom's comfort. I'm so glad for her that she was able to stay on course and get treatment when she did.

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Boo hoo, all of my daughters care about THEIR rights? Where did I go wrong?! Seriously though, this guy might be girl dad of the year. He needs to follow through with this divorce and start living his best life with his 4 amazing daughters.

All 4 (!) of my daughters are rejecting my cult - what could it possibly mean?! It could never be that *I* am wrong! And now my husband is starting to see my extremist ways too, and how it's making me a bad mother - whatever shall I do?! Good find, OP. Warms my heart, gives me hope for the future. Also: that last about the daughter not wanting to be like the mother - damn, she must be a monster lol

OOP is making a mountain out of a mole hole. She even went as far as wanting to divorce her husband over........I don't know........being a responsible parent by putting his personal feelings aside to support their child? What was he supposed to do? Abandon Lily? Hold her hostage and **force** her to have the baby? If he did, he would be just as much of an asshole as OOP. I'm pretty sure he wasn't happy about Lily's decision to terminate, but, at the end of the day, he was a big boy about it as opposed to OOP who whined and cried like a fuckin baby on r/ prolife about it. It's **extra hypocritical,** because, **aren't religious people supposed to be against divorce?** Her last post in August of 2022, she whined on r/ Catholics that it was her husband who wanted the divorce, but, on r/ prolife, she repeatedly said she wanted to divorce her husband. She knows true Catholics don't believe in divorce. MAYBE I would have had a *tiny* bit of sympathy for OOP IF she had **at-least** posted about her daughter's abortion (which tbh, it still none of her business anyway) on a neutral subreddit such as r/ offmychest, r/ trueoffmychest, r/ advice, and said something like **"I'm heartbroken that my daughter had an abortion, but, please don't call her selfish or a baby killer as she's still my child and a human being worthy of love and respect"** etc, but, since she posted on r/ prolife and used emotionally charged words such as "murdered", "grand**baby"** , and calling her "selfish" and a "baby killer" put me under the impression she was just trying to push an agenda instead of legitimately grieving over the "death" of her "grandchild". TBH, I was so pissed for Lily to have such a shitty mother where I hope OOP was just a bored troll making this whole story up and even going as far to write several follow ups months later. Her last post on r/ Catholics, she mentioned her family was working/lower-middle-class (on r/ prolife, I was under the impression they were rich/upper-middle-class) and on r/ prolife, she also mentioned that she worked, but, then, on r/ Catholics, she mentioned she's STILL a SAHM, not even "I WAS a SAHM when my kids WERE little". I spotted a few inconsistencies in her story. Surprisingly, the people on r/ Catholics were more supportive of Lily than people on r/ prolife were. A few of them on the PL sub even advised OOP to not only divorce her husband, but, also to disown Lily and I thought prolifers were so "family-orientated", which isn't very "pro-family" to advocate for divorce and disowning your children. Isn't that what PL fight for so much? For mothers not to "disown" their "children"? **Fuckin hypocrite bitches! (towards PL)**

I see them suggest disowning children all the time. If their kid decides to have an abortion, they would rather cut them out of their life than be an actual parent who unconditionally loves their child. It’s why these people don’t fucking deserve to have kids.

The child only matters (to them) if it's a fetus or if it's too young to have their own opinion. Once they become teenagers and form their own opinion, if it's any different, they'll (the extremist "prolifers") disown their children. TBH, some people shouldn't be allowed to have children. I read once from r/ prolife of someone saying they would toss their **16 year old daughter** out of the family home if she ever had an abortion. Throwing a **minor** out of the house is not only immoral, it's also **illegal.** They would literally break the law if their daughter *DARE m*akes a decision mommy and/or daddy dearest "don't approve" of. I hope it was just a hypothetical written by a 16 year old themselves, not an actual parent or even an adult. For one thing, if their **16 year old daughter** even comes home pregnant (regardless of what the child does with her pregnancy), they have already failed that child, because, while, yes, I understand teenagers rebel and do dumb shit, but, the parents should still be making sure to the best of their ability their adolescent child isn't even in the position to need an abortion in the first place. You don't leave a teenager to fend for themselves, ofc, they're gonna get themselves in trouble such as coming home pregnant. No matter pro-choice or prolife, we should all agree teenagers shouldn't even be pregnant in the first place.

She’ll be rotting in a nursing home.

As she should be!!!!!!

She’s a narcissist who wants mini mes.

You know one of her arguments for having kids is," Who's going to take care of you when you get old?"

You can have 10 kids and still die alone.

And yet they never understand that the primary motivator for leaving them alone is that they're a flaming asshole.

“Why doesn’t my daughter ever talk to me?”

Well the mother is a piece of garbage but her daughter somehow turned out pretty great.

Yup! That’s the power of education. (Not just talking about schools, but learning/reading in general)

This woman just won't quit. 🤭 Didn't she complain last time that her husband was thinking about divorce? Wonder what happened there...

And she was the one who wanted the divorce in the first place. On r/ prolife, she mentioned repeatedly she wanted to divorce her husband over this and then on r/ Catholics, she mentioned she didn't want the divorce, because, she knows Catholics don't believe in divorce. Surprisingly, the people on r/ Catholics were more supportive of Lily than people on r/ prolife were.

I have a lot of Catholics in my family (including my mother) and they’re a mixed bag. Some just go to mass and don’t really get caught up on all the tedious rules. It’s more for socializing. Then I have others who sound just like this woman! Sticking their noses in everyone else’s business, trying to force their very narrow views on everyone. Someone else mentioned she was all over the place too (on another sub). I didn’t realize this was a whole saga!

I remember this woman. I believe she posted this in like 2021/2022? And she kept spiraling with each update and I believe her husband did decide to divorce from her and he and their children left the faith. It was wild to watch.

From January - August of 2022.

Yes I went and looked it up after I posted this comment. The prolife sub wasn’t the only one she posted in, she also posted a ton in Christian. She might have been a troll but if not I did feel slightly sad that this woman had been brainwashed so badly by the political right to believe that this was part of her religion.

I’m happy for the daughter! Hope she cuts contact with her unhinged mother.

Perhaps the only time it’s acceptable for a husband to “overrule” his wife 🤣

You can only choose one. Be a good mother Or be a cultists who can never be good to your own children. And the husband should divorce her and take as much as he can since she wastes their life and marriage being unethical. She can't even be honest about the facts. Yet she has the audacity to play victim

Aside from the abortion, she's also upset that her daughter doesn't ever want to have children even thought she was raised by a mother. Apparently if you had a mother you're obligated to have children. 

One of the things that pisses me off about prolifers is not only do they bitch about women having abortions, they also bitch about people (especially girls and women) who just simply don't want children at all. If they're only mad, because, childfree people are pro-choice (or at-least should be), they can die the fuck mad. They can't expect people who are adamantly against the idea of having children to be opposed to abortion, because, if they did have an accidental pregnancy, one of their views would have to be abandoned. Childfree and prolife are mutually exclusive and any prolifer who *claims* to be "childfree" isn't truly childfree.

There's something really wrong with a woman who doesn't want children. I know this because I'm a woman who doesn't want children and I've been told this many times (along with the usual selfish, coldhearted, not really a woman, etc.).  I think pro-lifers really believe that there's something wrong with a woman who doesn't want to have children and they need to be "fixed" by being forced to have a child.  I've never encountered someone who is both "pro-life" and child-free. 

I unfortunately encountered a few (only on Reddit, **thankfully, not IRL**) prolifers who self-identify as "childfree", there's even a small, inactive (wonder why?) subreddit called r/ prolife\_childfree. I have seen a few prolifers whine on the PL sub about being banned from r/childfree, even despite the fact they wre there just to pick fights with the other users of r/childfree. ANYONE in their right mind should expect r/childfree to be **heavily** pro-choice or even pro-abortion. Anyone who expects r/childfree to be prolife are idiots who are doing nothing, but, setting themselves up for disappointment. There's nothing wrong with you being childfree, don't listen to those assholes.

Yeah so they broke free

Her: Oh no! My daughter has grown up and can think for herself! I'm devastated!!! (And yes, that's sarcastic; I'm showing what she sounds like.)

That’s why she wants the grandkid so badly. That way she has someone she can control again.

| *My adult daughter likes having bodily autonomy and it's "devastating me!"* Yeah, it **MUST** be *"devastating"* for this *"mother"* that because her adult daughter decided she'd rather have an abortion than give up her Ivy League education, she's probably having a much **better** life than "mom" did at her daughter's age. I remember this self-pitying, fanatical witch from the first few times she posted, maybe a year or so ago I think, as she came across as a totally vile person even then. Personally, I hope the daughter has gone totally no-contact by now, and that her husband followed through on his plan to get a divorce and get the younger girls away from this pathetic excuse for a *"mother."*

IKR! I’m rooting for the father try to do the right thing while married to this psycho! I know some people who have gotten increasingly religious and bigoted as the years have gone on, and I imagine that’s what happened to OOP. I hope they all got away from her!

| *IKR! I’m rooting for the father try to do the right thing while married to this psycho!* Same here. It's been about two years since she posted that first rant on PL. I hope this psycho is completely alone by now, so she can't poison her family's mental well-being with her religious crap anymore.

It never seizes to amaze how quickly these people will toss out the first kid for a newer shinier one (the grandkid). The moment the daughter becomes pregnant she stops mattering. All that matters from that point on is the possibility of a grandkid.

“My husband overruled me” she already lives in a patriarchal household ofc shes a misogynist. Parents should decide together what their children are able to do.

But, I thought prolifers *liked it* when husbands rule over their wives?

What an absolute pos of a mother, im glad that her husband went against her wishes to help the daughter

“All four of my daughters can think for themselves instead of being mindless automatons who just regurgitate whatever I pour into their brains. Where did I go wrong??? 😭”

I've noticed that when these toxic people get their way and manipulate their child into continuing the pregnancy, they never actually raise the grandchild the way they all lie that they would. They expect their child to raise the baby they weren't ready for and were pressured into having to do it as a "consequence". She wouldn't have helped raise this grandchild she's whining about and crying crocodile tears for. Good for her daughter for recognizing she wasn't ready for a child and that she can't trust her manipulative dishonest mom.

She would have used the baby as a prop. Brought it to church, dressed it up, taken a lot of pictures for facebook, etc. Then the moment the baby started crying, it’s back to mommy.

| **PL:** *My daughter has become a radical pro-abort after her abortion and it is Devastating me. She literally brags about murdering her baby & calling it "the Best choice I've ever made."* This post was written by the same self-pitying "mother" who recently posted **THIS** garbage: | **PL:** *It should have been Abstinence Only in my opinion. They just taught you how to have casual sex by introducing all the rest* \["the rest" meaning birth control, comprehensive sex ed., etc.\]. My guess; this *"mother"* would get birth control banned too, if she got her way. Let's hope she and the other anti-BC fanatics **never** do.

My sincerest apologies for a **HUGE ERROR** on my part. The person who wrote the *"...it's devastating me"* post two years ago is an entirely **DIFFERENT** person than the one who wrote the *"it should have been Abstinence-Only in my opinion"* post just recently. Again, my deepest apologies for this mistake.

This is the Lily story. Right now, she would have just graduated from Ivy League. It was good thing for her to terminate, because, instead of being a college graduate, if she didn't abort, she would have been stuck with a toddler. Although OOP did offer to adopt the kid full time so she could stay in school, but, that's not the point, she doesn't get to force her child to breed. She also could have just said that for her to keep the pregnancy, but, even if she had every intention of adopting the kid, it still doesn't justify forced birth. Even if she let her mother adopt her kid, she still would have had to deal with PPD and/or maybe even PTSD from having a baby especially at a young age.

Oh my god it's this bitch again

Selfish slutty apostate daughter who goes to an ivy league school has an abortion and wants a career instead of being a stay at home mom? This has gotta be rage bait for Trad Caths.

If she wants these babies to be born so badly, she can gestate them. Until then, she can shut the fuck up. 

Says she tried her best to be a good mother and looks like she failed. Womp womp.

It’s not up to you. And good for your daughter who is staying at her Ivy League university. Shame on you! For not supporting your LIVE daughter!  And I appreciate her father for stepping up and helping her, while you sit there on your ass doing nothing to help her.  Thankfully her father saw that she wants to do more than be a baby making machine and stepped in! You are allowed to hold your opinions, you do not get to decide what is best for your daughter, who is obviously intelligent. You do not get to make plans about her life. I’ll bet you’ve never had a good relationship with her and NOW it’s non existent.  I hope you read this and take it to heart, because you are going to give up a relationship with your kid over a nonexistent grandkid. My daughter is 23 and had just graduated with her master’s degree in biology, from THE Ivy League University. Next up is medical school. She can have a relationship with whoever she wants or not. She highly intelligent, has tons of common sense and is extremely discriminating about whom she dates. And I support her decisions BECAUSE IT IS HER LIFE! If something happens, I will be there to help work things out, should there be a problem. This isn’t your life, you had yours. If you want a relationship with her, you better change your behavior. Or no relationship with her and a divorce.