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This is much like the tombs in Petra so I'm assuming it's from a similar period of time. I've watched shows on how the Petra tombs were carved out of solid rock and I assume this was done the same way. Basically they sit on a board/scaffolding lowered with ropes to start carving at the top. They then work downward using boards and ropes and let the debris pile at the base. Soon the debris provides a platform to work on so you don't need scaffolding. Then you remove the debris as you go and carve the rest of the way down. Actually really simple.
See these are the theories yet no single person has ever been able to recreate these types of structures using the proposed copper and bronze tools that are supposed to have been available at the proposed time of construction.
This is soft stone, it's limestone. Bronze is hard stuff, almost as hard as iron, it just required a vast trade network to create bronze so iron use became more common. Bronze would easily work this stone. Copper chisels would also, you'd just have to sharpen it a whole lot. Also Petra was active during the Iron Age, they likely had iron and crude steel tools as well.
You said nobody has been able to create these structures like they did? One of the shows actually has people who recreate a Petra monument on a much smaller scale. They use the exact method described above only using hand tools. It really didn't take that long to make either. Once you get the rubble pile at the base to stand on it goes very quickly.
Many different types of bronze depending on how you make it copper/tin content. Bronze is often HARDER than wrought iron. I work in the boating industry and mess with huge chunks of bronze all the time, the shit is heavy and solid. I mean they make boat props, rudders, and many other parts out of it. You have a serious misconception about bronze if you think it's some weak metal like copper. Go watch some videos where bronze swords are tested, it's incredibly durable. Bronze was also easy to melt and cast into any shape you want, iron took massive amounts of labor to shape..
> the proposed copper and bronze tools that are supposed to have been available at the proposed time of construction
Where do you see that attribution being made? By this time iron tools are certainly plausible - although copper was also still produced. Either way, explicit tool marks survive. The basic tool forms are supported by plenty of evidence.
> In Egypt copper or bronze tools were used from at least the early third millennium B.C. However, I do not believe that such tools were used for dressing in Petra, since iron was known and available in the area of Wādi Araba west of Petra. The contemporary stone-workers and masons of the peoples in neighboring regions surrounding the Nabataeans, such as the Egyptians, Assyrians, Greeks, and Babylonians and Persians—used iron tools.
* [The Nabataean Rock Carving Technique in Petra](https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/handle/2027.42/147559)
Sound has power, saw 2ton machine that was out of whack, humming across the floor. Boss pushed back in place by himself and turn it off, so it could be adjusted.
I dont know why you are being down voted, this is a great question.
These strange anomalies are all over the world and all you hear from academics is that these structures where used for tombs. I personally don't think this is a correct answer.
If you have sone time research the serapeum in egypt you will notice something is very strange.
Nobody yet can tell you why they cut these perfect 70 ton granite boxes from a place 600 km away and placed them in an almost impossible fitting. They say this is a tomb as well. With our technology today it would be extremely difficult to make it and people are saying they used stone to carve it.
> These strange anomalies
This monument is carved out of sandstone, partially unfinished, and is covered with tool marks - so the construction technique aren't really strange. There is a broader context in terms of other Nabataean sites and archaeology. Why specifically does this not make sense as a Nabataean tomb?
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> perfect
They're very impressive, but not "perfect". [Here](http://isida-project.ucoz.com/egypt_mar_2013/serapeum.htm) is documentation of some measurements of sarcophagi done a few years ago. Better publication of these results would be ideal, but you can see that many of the right angles measure to things like 90.9, 91.1, 91.0, etc. Obviously impressive - but not what I would call perfect.
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> They say this is a tomb as well
Fortunately, "they" don't just say that. Specific arguments are made based on evidence from the period. The Serapeum,
* has plenty of evidence attesting to the presence of the Apis bull cult.
* From the Apis bull cult itself, there is a range of evidence for burials of bulls - including remains of some bull mummies.
* Some of that evidence comes from texts that explicitly talk about bull burials. For instance,
> I erected a in stone for him (Apis) in front of his temple, in order to rest in it,
awakened, after performing the burial. I made a great altar of Tura limestone for him in front of the, inscribed with divine offerings and all the perfect rituals which were performed in the Opening of the Mouth, every part of his body
* Inscription by Khaemwaset at the Serapeum, referenced from [this](https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/record.jsf?pid=diva2%3A1589765&dswid=-7313) thesis. More context [here](https://poj.peeters-leuven.be/content.php?url=article&id=504250) (in French).
> The king Amasis. He has caused this to be made for his memorial of the living Apis, this huge sarcophagus of red granite,
* [*Egypt under the pharaohs: a history derived entirely from the monuments*](https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/brugsch1891), p. 426.
The [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapeum_of_Saqqara#Greater_Vaults) page for the Serapeum lists further texts - you say "Nobody yet can tell you why" these sarcophagi were carved, but there are a range of texts for the period stating explicitly why sarcophagi were made.
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> people are saying they used stone to carve it
"people" is a vague category. Archaeologists are saying that stone tools were used to work hard stones - in addition to metal saws and drill though. Just saying that stone tools are attributed leaves out a range of technology discussed in this context.
They can keep downvoting it’s not like I’m going to die without upvotes. I usually watch more videos and read stuff about ancient India and their finds, their structures are very detailed and there are more impressive structures all over India. I also have watched some stuff about the Inca structures, that is from where I found that using a specific mixture you are able to easily shape stone. I will check it out. If you haven’t already you should check out stuff about ancient India, it’s very interesting stuff.
There is evidence they used some form of high frequency sound to cut the rock. There is also evidence that this, and most of the the ancient monoliths are much, much older than 2000 years. If you interested in this sort of thing, I suggest you look up Deep Insight on YouTube or the plethora of work by Graham Hancock. 👌
> For the people from Australia, Bangladesh, Botswana, British West Indies, Cambodia, Canada, Dominican Republic, Egypt, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Ghana, Guatemala, Guyana, Honduras, Hong Kong, India, Ireland, Israel, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kenya, Korea, Libya, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Macau, Malaysia, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Pakistan, Panama, Philippines, Puerto Rico, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Somalia, Sri Lanka, Switzerland, Syria, Taiwan, Tanzania, Thailand, Uganda, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom and the United States, that is, indeed 2,000. Not every country uses the comma to denote an advancing numeral.
FTFY
Both are weird to me. It's so open to confusion and mistakes. In Switzerland we use 2'000.00 or 2'000,00 which I think it's a way better usage. No bias
I remember lying in there, staring up at the uncaring stone. Not the most pleasant tome for the recently deceased. Made the wait for rebirth that much longer.
4/10, could've used better interiors.
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ecto gamat
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9jWGbvemTag
Never without my permission
Mongo just pawn in game of life...
You never let me down reddit, the top comment is always the correct one.
Are we Green?
Super green
Someone call me?
How do you guys think this was made?
I think they used rock
Sure beats scissors
Big if true
I am no expert but I think they used some sort of mixture to soften the rock and mold it.
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\*the ancient aliens used a chisel...
I’m saying that because in South America they had some mixture that allowed the shape rocks the way they wanted.
[Cusco megalithic blocks](https://hiddenincatours.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/a1.gif)
lol wat do u have a source for that i wanna read more about this magic rock shaping paste
Here it is: https://www.academia.edu/37497925/On_the_reddish_glittery_mud_the_Inca_used_for_perfecting_their_stone_masonry
…..concrete? Rock isn’t mouldable
I think they carved a burial chamber in the living red sandstone.
This is much like the tombs in Petra so I'm assuming it's from a similar period of time. I've watched shows on how the Petra tombs were carved out of solid rock and I assume this was done the same way. Basically they sit on a board/scaffolding lowered with ropes to start carving at the top. They then work downward using boards and ropes and let the debris pile at the base. Soon the debris provides a platform to work on so you don't need scaffolding. Then you remove the debris as you go and carve the rest of the way down. Actually really simple.
Same people (nabataeans), this is part of the trading route that led to Petra
See these are the theories yet no single person has ever been able to recreate these types of structures using the proposed copper and bronze tools that are supposed to have been available at the proposed time of construction.
well they still do build these types of things, by hand, in many parts of asia. its not a mystery. we know exactly how theyre built.
This is soft stone, it's limestone. Bronze is hard stuff, almost as hard as iron, it just required a vast trade network to create bronze so iron use became more common. Bronze would easily work this stone. Copper chisels would also, you'd just have to sharpen it a whole lot. Also Petra was active during the Iron Age, they likely had iron and crude steel tools as well. You said nobody has been able to create these structures like they did? One of the shows actually has people who recreate a Petra monument on a much smaller scale. They use the exact method described above only using hand tools. It really didn't take that long to make either. Once you get the rubble pile at the base to stand on it goes very quickly.
I prefer rubble piles to ladders. That’s what I told my wife when she wanted me to clean the side of the garage…
>Bronze is hard stuff, almost as hard as iron lol, i dont think so buddy Lead: 1.5 Tin: 1.5 Zinc: 2.5 Gold: 2.5-3 Silver: 2.5-3 Aluminum: 2.5-3 ***Copper: 3*** Brass: 3 Bronze: 3 Nickel: 4 Platinum: 4-4.5 Steel: 4-4.5 ***Iron: 4.5*** Palladium: 4.75 Rhodium: 6 Titanium: 6 Hardened steel: 7-8 Tungsten: 7.5 Tungsten carbide: 8.5-9
Many different types of bronze depending on how you make it copper/tin content. Bronze is often HARDER than wrought iron. I work in the boating industry and mess with huge chunks of bronze all the time, the shit is heavy and solid. I mean they make boat props, rudders, and many other parts out of it. You have a serious misconception about bronze if you think it's some weak metal like copper. Go watch some videos where bronze swords are tested, it's incredibly durable. Bronze was also easy to melt and cast into any shape you want, iron took massive amounts of labor to shape..
> the proposed copper and bronze tools that are supposed to have been available at the proposed time of construction Where do you see that attribution being made? By this time iron tools are certainly plausible - although copper was also still produced. Either way, explicit tool marks survive. The basic tool forms are supported by plenty of evidence. > In Egypt copper or bronze tools were used from at least the early third millennium B.C. However, I do not believe that such tools were used for dressing in Petra, since iron was known and available in the area of Wādi Araba west of Petra. The contemporary stone-workers and masons of the peoples in neighboring regions surrounding the Nabataeans, such as the Egyptians, Assyrians, Greeks, and Babylonians and Persians—used iron tools. * [The Nabataean Rock Carving Technique in Petra](https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/handle/2027.42/147559)
if theres one thing ive learned from the history channel, its that ancient humans were incapable of doing anything without help from aliens.
I think they used slaves.
Anything that looks impossible to build, is built with a lot of cheap labor.
Cheap clothes and high tech cars? Football stadiums?
I was thinking stuff in the ancient world, but those too:)
Cheap ancient clothes and high tech ancient cats? Ancient football stadiums?
They hummed in meditation at exactly the right frequency to carve this shape out of the rock
Sound has power, saw 2ton machine that was out of whack, humming across the floor. Boss pushed back in place by himself and turn it off, so it could be adjusted.
Probably a crafting table and a stone pickaxe.
Cool fact... there are chisel marks on the inside of these tombs. Source: my own eyes
Time and effort bro. Its like how prisoners can dig a tunnel with a small spoon.
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I dont know why you are being down voted, this is a great question. These strange anomalies are all over the world and all you hear from academics is that these structures where used for tombs. I personally don't think this is a correct answer. If you have sone time research the serapeum in egypt you will notice something is very strange. Nobody yet can tell you why they cut these perfect 70 ton granite boxes from a place 600 km away and placed them in an almost impossible fitting. They say this is a tomb as well. With our technology today it would be extremely difficult to make it and people are saying they used stone to carve it.
> These strange anomalies This monument is carved out of sandstone, partially unfinished, and is covered with tool marks - so the construction technique aren't really strange. There is a broader context in terms of other Nabataean sites and archaeology. Why specifically does this not make sense as a Nabataean tomb? - ____ > perfect They're very impressive, but not "perfect". [Here](http://isida-project.ucoz.com/egypt_mar_2013/serapeum.htm) is documentation of some measurements of sarcophagi done a few years ago. Better publication of these results would be ideal, but you can see that many of the right angles measure to things like 90.9, 91.1, 91.0, etc. Obviously impressive - but not what I would call perfect. - _____ > They say this is a tomb as well Fortunately, "they" don't just say that. Specific arguments are made based on evidence from the period. The Serapeum, * has plenty of evidence attesting to the presence of the Apis bull cult. * From the Apis bull cult itself, there is a range of evidence for burials of bulls - including remains of some bull mummies. * Some of that evidence comes from texts that explicitly talk about bull burials. For instance, > I erected a in stone for him (Apis) in front of his temple, in order to rest in it, awakened, after performing the burial. I made a great altar of Tura limestone for him in front of the, inscribed with divine offerings and all the perfect rituals which were performed in the Opening of the Mouth, every part of his body * Inscription by Khaemwaset at the Serapeum, referenced from [this](https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/record.jsf?pid=diva2%3A1589765&dswid=-7313) thesis. More context [here](https://poj.peeters-leuven.be/content.php?url=article&id=504250) (in French). > The king Amasis. He has caused this to be made for his memorial of the living Apis, this huge sarcophagus of red granite, * [*Egypt under the pharaohs: a history derived entirely from the monuments*](https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/brugsch1891), p. 426. The [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapeum_of_Saqqara#Greater_Vaults) page for the Serapeum lists further texts - you say "Nobody yet can tell you why" these sarcophagi were carved, but there are a range of texts for the period stating explicitly why sarcophagi were made. ___ - > people are saying they used stone to carve it "people" is a vague category. Archaeologists are saying that stone tools were used to work hard stones - in addition to metal saws and drill though. Just saying that stone tools are attributed leaves out a range of technology discussed in this context.
They can keep downvoting it’s not like I’m going to die without upvotes. I usually watch more videos and read stuff about ancient India and their finds, their structures are very detailed and there are more impressive structures all over India. I also have watched some stuff about the Inca structures, that is from where I found that using a specific mixture you are able to easily shape stone. I will check it out. If you haven’t already you should check out stuff about ancient India, it’s very interesting stuff.
Unchecked, bruised male ego prob...
There is evidence they used some form of high frequency sound to cut the rock. There is also evidence that this, and most of the the ancient monoliths are much, much older than 2000 years. If you interested in this sort of thing, I suggest you look up Deep Insight on YouTube or the plethora of work by Graham Hancock. 👌
there is no evidence sound was used that way. stop watching ancient aliens.
Lazer…the level of precision is not made by hand
Plumbob and corner templates?
With the surges of Tension and Cohesion
They used this in The Fifth Element right?
Multipass?
Happy looking thermal tape, too.
How did that rock get there???
Got lost, refused to ask for directions.
SpongeBob drove it there
I hear the pioneers used to ride those babies for miles
Was using GPS but batteries died, wandered until ran out of gas.
Now THAT, is a tombstone…..
Is this Saudi Arabia or Minecraft?
Yes.
*Laughs in Stampy’s voice*
Looks like it was carved by the ancient Nabataeans. They also built Petra, in what is now southern Jordan, during the 2nd Century BC.
This was their second most important city after Petra.
For the Americans, that is, indeed, 2,000. Not every country uses the comma to denote an advancing numeral.
> For the people from Australia, Bangladesh, Botswana, British West Indies, Cambodia, Canada, Dominican Republic, Egypt, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Ghana, Guatemala, Guyana, Honduras, Hong Kong, India, Ireland, Israel, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kenya, Korea, Libya, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Macau, Malaysia, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Pakistan, Panama, Philippines, Puerto Rico, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Somalia, Sri Lanka, Switzerland, Syria, Taiwan, Tanzania, Thailand, Uganda, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom and the United States, that is, indeed 2,000. Not every country uses the comma to denote an advancing numeral. FTFY
With freedom units I don't throw stones. But that really is stupid of those countries.
Of course even easier and more specific would be to say that it was carved almost 2 X10^(3) years ago.
Yeah we use dots for that and comma's for decimals. Why do Americans always do it differently 😉
> comma’s Adding an *’s* doesn’t make a word plural. Unless of course you somehow do that differently as well.
In France we use a space, commas are for the decimal. Growing up I always wonder why there was a dot on the calculator.
As an American I think it would be more impressed if they were just being that specific on how many years ago it was. Good use of significant figures
As an American, 2.000 years ago was early covid bullshit. It is amazing what people have accomplished in that time.
I can’t tell if you’re joking because I have actually seen people do this. It’s the year 2.022,045
Both are weird to me. It's so open to confusion and mistakes. In Switzerland we use 2'000.00 or 2'000,00 which I think it's a way better usage. No bias
You and your apostrophes can fuck right off lol I tried to wipe them off my screen twice
This I could get use to.
To piss you off.
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“No we don’t” -The rest of the world
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this reminds me of the one from transformers 2
Was that supposes to be a comma? Or they wanted to very much express it was exacy 2 years ago it was carved?
Where is it at in Saudi Arabia
It's called Qasr al-Farid (in Mada'in Saleh)
Nah jit that’s a Jedi temple on Lothal
Indians: hold my Chai https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kailasa_Temple,_Ellora
Taj Mahal cooler
Amazing.
Have yall ever heard of the Elephanta caves? भारतीय सुप्रीमेसी
Damn this was made 2 years ago?
Good joke
No egypt
Pretty good, the craftsmanship is dope.
One of my favorite dungeons in Twilight Princess
Typical contractor leaving before the jobs done.
"ancient astronaut theorists say 'yes'."
Mellllonn!
whos inside this mf? Like am I gonna open this and find a mesprit or som
I remember lying in there, staring up at the uncaring stone. Not the most pleasant tome for the recently deceased. Made the wait for rebirth that much longer. 4/10, could've used better interiors.
yeah...that's from hours of free time with no tv, internet, or social media.
What the heck is with the guy just casually walking to work in the pic?
Pre islamic architecture is often looked over.
Man couldn’t possibly have made this according to the hISssstOrY channel…aliens!
which civilization it belongs to? Thx in advance.
I hate the fact that I can see na amogus in this picture
I like this boulder, it's a nice boulder.
Any of you ever played beat saber?
We've been playing way too much Beat Saber..