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I know most people think their grandparents were badass (and most from that generation are!) but my Ukrainian grandfather was particularly cut from something different.
He came to America in 1919 after his village kept getting ravaged during the Russian Revolution, worked 12-hour shifts at the steel factory his entire life, making extra cash on the side to support his 8 kids as a bare knuckle boxer (even after a long day at the mill.) He served in WW2 and received a medal while stationed at Pearl Harbor during the attack. A story he never once talked about (but has been corroborated by multiple sources) is that he killed a man who challenged him to a fight with a single blow, earning him a reputation that made it all the way up to the highest level of the military and led to him becoming the personal body guard to a colonel for years.
There is so much more I wish I knew about the man but I do know he saw some insane stuff in his life and it never once broke him. Dude was an absolute beast until the day he died and I know itās 100% because he came from Ukraine.
Seeing your home country being carpet bombed will quickly make you fed up with bullshit.
Edit: some people pointed out it may not be carpet bombing but some other kind of large area of effect bombing. I'm not a military expert but either way they're bombing large city areas without any tentative of avoiding civilians. Kharkiv seems to have taken a lot of damage.
Is it against sanctions to mail Putin sunflower seeds?
Edit: If anyone wants to his public correspondence address is 23, Ulitsa Ilyinka, 103132, Moscow, Russia
Usually seeds like other materials are supposed to go through quarantine restrictions. Either way if anyone wants to try apparently his address for public correspondence is 23, Ulitsa Ilyinka, 103132, Moscow, Russia
I absolutely love how he throws every last bit of formal political bullshit out the window when his country is being shelled like that. What an absolute legend.
Fact is, Russian heat-seeking ordnance works poorly against Ukraininan targets. This is partly because a lot of Russian military technology is old, and because every Ukrainian man, woman, and child has ice in their veins, apparently.
His entire speech was amazing. He read the last text messages between a dead Russian soldier and his mother, and it was absolutely heartbreaking. The soldier realized everything Russia said about the situation was a lie.
\[update: you can watch it here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbiikviPOa8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbiikviPOa8) \]
The absolute balls on this guy to end his speech with a "raise your hand if your country voted to add Russia to the UN in accordance with the article" and he's like "oh I don't see any hands? Perhaps I'll put on my glasses lest my vision fail me. No one? Keep that in mind when you listen to the Russian delegate"
Iām officially going to pronounce the word ābun-kerā as āboon-kerā after this.
Iām fucking done with believing certain pplās maintained bullshit and so therefore this is what it will be from now on.
Basically the USSR had a permanent seat and veto power on the UN Security Council, and with the fall of the soviet union, the Russian Federation inherited the seat and veto power. Some people claim that Russia doesn't have rights to that seat
For something started by a generation who lived through WWII, you would think they'd write the UN laws so countries have to earn leadership privileges, not just inherit them.
Hindsight clouds our understanding.
At the time, I'd imagine everyone was glad the Cold War was over and no one could imagine it occurring ever again with what we'd all learned. Countries were being created, such as Ukraine. Things looked more positive.
Edit: As per below, clarified that Ukraine is a country.
>no one could imagine it occurring ever again with what we'd all learned.
Just like what people thought after the horror of WW1, it was to be the great war, a war to end all wars. You'd think everyone learned something especially after WW2 happened but now yet again there is war in Europe
[Did you hear about those guys on Snake Island?](https://www.euronews.com/2022/02/28/ukraine-war-snake-island-border-guards-are-alive-and-well-says-ukrainian-navy)
When he asked everyone to raise their hand to see who voted for Russia to join the UN that was crazy. But THEN he threw on his glasses and goes ājust to make sure my vision isnāt failing meā¦ā that was impressive. Does anyone know where to find the Russian Ambassadors Speech in response to this? (Iām referencing the full address video above if you have not watched itā¦ very compelling)
Many young men from Russian being captured in battle have said they have been manipulated and lied to. A lot of them had no real clue what was actually going on, just following orders or die/family dieā¦.
Honestly removing the names of people who commit atrocities takes away so much power from them.
In NZ, we didnāt have the Christchurch shooters name on any media outlets. It was essentially banned (not legally, just a populous coming together to make sure he didnāt get what he wanted). I can honestly tell you I donāt know the guys name. If I stumble across a video where they may mention it (typically American videos would), I naturally click off. I refuse to learn his name and so do a lot of other people. Dude wanted fame, he didnāt get shit.
A bit harder to remove Hitlers name, but even so, being just āsome guyā is a powerful damn move.
Editing to add: I should have guessed someone would say his name, silly me. Instead, let me add a list of the victims of the event. Theyāre the ones who deserve to be remembered.
Mujaad (Mucad) Ibrahim - 3YO
Lilik Abdul Hamid - 57YO
Sayyad Milne - 14YO
Hamza Mustafa - 16YO
Khaled Mustafa - 45YO
Atta Elayyan - 33YO
Tariq Omar - 24YO
Husne Ara Parvin - 44YO
Ashraf Ali - 58YO
Ashraf Ali - 61YO
Syed Jahandad Ali - 34YO
Mian Naeem Rashid - late-40s
Talha Naeem Rashid - 21YO
Farhaj Ahsan - 30YO
Syed Areeb Ahmed - 26YO
Sohail Shahid - 40YO
Maulana Hafiz Musa Patel - 59YO
Dr Haroon Mahmood - 40YO
Haji-Daoud Nabi - 71YO
Dr Abdus Samad - 67YO
Dr Amjad Hamid - 57YO
Osama Adnan Abu Kweik - 37YO
Muse Nur Awale - 77YO
Mohsin Al Harbi - 63YO
Abdukadir Elmi - 70YO
Mohammed Omar Faruk - 36YO
Mojammel Hoq - 30YO
Hussein Moustafa - 70YO
Abdelfattah Qasem - 60YO
Linda Armstrong - 65YO
Zeeshan Raza - 38YO
Ghulam Hussain - in his 60s
Karam Bibi - in her 60s
Mohammed Imran Khan - 47YO
Hussein Al-Umari - 35YO
Junaid Ismail - 36YO
Zakaria Bhuiyan (missing, presumed dead) - age unknown
Abdul Fattah Qassim al-Daqqah - 59YO
Ali Elmadani - 65YO
Kamel Darwish - 38YO
Maheboob Khokhar - 65YO
Asif Vora - 56YO
Ramiz Vora - 28YO
Ansi Alibava - 23YO
Ozair Kadir - 25YO
Munir Suleiman - 68YO
Ahmed Jamal al-Din Abdul Ghani - 68YO
Ashraf Morsi - age unknown
Ashraf al-Masri - age unknown
Matiullah Safi - age unknown
Kia kaha.
Anyone who thinks Ukraine has been anything other than masterful with international press and PR is delusional. The ambassador's speeches, the transformation of the President into the biggest hero in the West, and the average Ukrainians keeping the message going have all been super impressive, unexpected and extremely effective.
When Ukraine set up a hotline for Russian military families to call to see if their loved ones had been captured or killed, that really was a master stroke of both PR and a powerful propaganda tool to demoralize Russian troops. I was honestly impressed with how they handled that.
By the way, Iām not using the word āpropagandaā in a negative or derogatory way. Even the truth can be used as propaganda. It doesnāt have to be only lies. Iām not entirely sure Putin understands that.
Was getting ready to ask you to not redefine words please and you taught me something sir.
May we all have the strength to check ourselves before we wreck our world.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/propaganda?utm_source=app
Edit: the reason I quoted the etymology and not the dictionary definition is because I was more surprised to find it had always been a neutral word, perhaps even more often used positively, than negatively.
Hence the issue with people on reddit assuming that āpropagandaā is always negative. I was ready to back it up, because I knew thereād be āwell akshuallysā showing up.
Even humanitarian messages use propaganda to promote ideas and beliefs.
Edit: trying to spell while in a meeting did not go well for meā¦
Im glad there's people like you who understand, and were ready to back it up, propaganda is a umbrella term and isn't necessarily a bad "thing" exactly like ignorant, people use it like an insult, when all its means is a lack of knowledge. People are ignorant on what propaganda acksually means.
the fact every captured russian has been treated with some level of decency is doing a lot for ukrain aswell. they know this war is against putin, not the 25 year olds who are being uswd as cannon fodder
Putin has forever immortalized himself along the likes of Stalin and Hitler for being amongst the most hated leaders in the western world. It's actually remarkable how quick he went from just being a joke to being universally despised.
He also rallied the world behind the US alliance system (NATO + Japan). He reversed a long trend of dwindling US hegemony
Edit: Iād imagine China now has second thoughts about messing with Taiwan. Time will tell
I think this will play out in chinaās favor to some degree. As Russia is isolated from the rest of the world economically, China will be happy to lend a helping hand, gobbling up power within Russia for pennies on the ruble.
Feels much less like the world is rallying around the US and more like it's looking towards the strong treaties that holds disparate nations together. From a European perspective, especially outside the EU, that and NATO currently seem like godsends.
Even as an American, my viewpoint on the NATO developments is more the "unifying disparate nations" and giving them a US military boost, as opposed to rallying around the US.
I just hope our overly-bloated military can actually do something to defend others for once, as opposed to being the aggressor, or choosing inaction.
I would argue that it is not just the western world that hates putin at this point, but the rest of the world as well, he somehow succeeded at threatening the entire world and not just europe and USA making hims probably more hated than even hitler himself. even hitler had more allies than putin. (though china in particular isn't just 'any' ally)
This as an issue hadn't even occurred to me. I had to look up who was currently on the ISS: 4 Americans, 2 Russians and 1 German. I imagine their space dinner table conversation is somewhat tense and carefully handled right now.
Astronauts are scientists; considering how Putinās actions negatively impact Russiaās ability to participate in the global scientific community, I imagine everyone on board the ISS right now has pretty similar feelings towards Putin.
What's particularly interesting to me is that he didn't start as being a joke. I remember thinking he was pretty slick in interviews. He sounded smart and reasonable at first.
This was before I realized he had started out as a spy, and that he longed for the Soviet Union to rise up again, and that he was a kleptocrat, a human rights abuser, etc.
If only one of Putins cronies would turn on him. Seize the opportunity to liberate his country from a madman. They might be Putin light, but anything has to be better then whatās going on now
What if this is an opportunity for Russia to democratize? Removing Puting doesn't solve any systematic problems. Who says Putin 2.0 wouldn't rise in 30 years?
Well, can't embarras those whose last words were "Go fuck yourself" and heard globally. Ukraine now has a very high bar of no fucks to give and no filters to apply lol. Balls of steel lol.
I think at this point this is no longer the quiet part. I heard my boss who is always as neutral as they come, apolitical, doesnāt discuss religion or personal beliefs of any sort, say āthis guy just needs to croakā.
I never advocate for violence or wish harm on others, but if Putin killed himself I would feel joy. He might be the only person on earth I can say that about.
This week is the first time Iāve ever heard people comparing a living person to Hitler without any exaggeration. And itās true. Putin is a historically despicable person
The comparisons are apt. If we are to take at face value his statement regarding the restoration of a "historical Russia" it is fairly indistinguishable from Nazi expansionist aspirations, albeit under different pretexts. A historical Russia, as in similar to the largest extend of the Empire of Russia, encompasses a large swath of thr globe. It includes all of Eastern Europe, including all of Finland and some of Sweden. Putin has said that one of his demands is for NATO to move back to their pre-1997 boundaries. This is back to Germany. Asking for Eastern Europe to once again be in thrall to Russia.
His statement was insane and if they are true aspirations (I don't think they are and I hope not) he is nothing but a Hitler-esque assholes.
I sincerely hope he does kill himself. Generally I would never say that as I have lost friends and family to suicide. But fuck Putin. Fuck this man. He lost all ability to negotiate when he invaded another country. Reasons for doing so do not matter, you invaded you are wrong.
If you invade another country to act as a colonizers you deserve to be ground into a bloody pulp and hosed into the sewers.
Don't forget how he threatened to nuke any country that sends troops to help Ukraine.
To me, that is the thing that puts him up there with the likes of Hitler.
There is no more quiet part in regards to this.
Russia is bombing, raping, shooting, rampaging his country. He's fed up, the West initially left UA to their own devices. Now they're giving material support, but RU can still punish from where they're at in UA.
I love this. Heās like āI canāt let my president be the only one laying the smack down! What can I do from here?ā
*notices Russian diplomat*
āOh yeah, thereās my bitchā
Putin is an incompetent, delusional and selfish 'leader' that nobody wants. Not even his own people.
Russia has no future with Putin. He will bring only ruin. The Russian people need to stand up and get rid of him.
How could they not like him? He's a [master archaeologist](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/12/vladimir-putin-greek-urns-ridicule), a handsome [horseback rider](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-28/vladimir-putin-rides-a-horse-in-siberia-*reuters*/12009852?nw=0), a [successful fisherman](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/05/vladimir-putin-fishes-dives-and-swims-during-siberian-vacation/542465001/), an [olympic-level swimmer](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/aug/06/vladimir-putin-butterfly-stroke), a [9 dan black belt in Taekwondo](http://www.worldtaekwondo.org/wtnews/view.html?nid=5831&sc=ne&w=putin), and the [sexiest man alive](https://www.complex.com/life/vladimir-putin-sexiest-man-alive-russian-poll)!
What? Just because "the Russian economy is in shambles" and "He ordered several hundred human rights abuses in the past few days" you think that the Russian people aren't a fan of him?
(/s)
Have you seen him play hockey? He even surrounds himself with āyes athletesā. Theyāre trash and let him score. He canāt even handle the slightest competition or opposition. An absolute child.
Oh god...that was so embarrassing. Him playing against professional olympic athletes and Putin outscores them every time.
Such a fucking joke. Billionaires are worthless.
On Kim Il-Sung's first and only round of golf he scored a 34 for 18 holes, with five holes in one. So Putin's got a ways to go before his yes-men are THAT good.
My thought, though perhaps uninformed, is that after years of being the top dog doing what he wants in his country with impunity (such as: killing political opponents, dissidents, journalists; ruling unopposed; beholden to no one) he genuinely thought he could do the same on the world stage, especially with how Crimea went.
Putin has a major problem now, he has to extract himself and the army out of Ukraine in such a way that the public don't string him up from a lamppost.
I have a real question. Has Putin given up his life with this move? I donāt pretend to understand international law, war crimes and the punishments which go with them. I have lived through Husain and Bin Laden losing their lives. Everyone has been taught the fate of Hitler(to the best of recorded knowledge). Is Putin in a death sentence situation here?
Putin lost before they crossed over into Ukraine.
"They may have won the battle but they will lose the war"
They can take Ukraine but it will be pointless now without an economy.
That reminded me of another fitting quote, "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win", and if that doesn't describe the entire morale of Ukrainian vs russian soldiers then I don't know what does. Even if russia does eventually overwhelm Ukraine, they will not be any better than when they started.
The Ukrainian people are what the Russians pretend to be, patriotic, proud, and strong. Also it would appear the Russian people have far more empathy than Putin would lead people to believe. It is unfortunate that they are being forced into a conflict that they appear to have no interest in, because of a tyrant they didn't elect to office. It is a travesty that the Ukrainian people have to suffer and die for it.
As a Finn I have a long history of ā¦healthy respect of the neighbor we have. We donāt fear them, we trade (at least used to) with them and try our most to maintain peace.
That said, I am absolutely positively surprised by the russian folks gathering in the cities of russia to speak against the war and the government. It needs some serious bravery to speak your mind in that country.
The police behaves quite brutally. But still it's not as violent as it was in 2019 or last year. So it's survivable. But there are thousands of people detained and fined all over the country.
Those bastards even detained an old lady who survived Siege of Leningrad and still came to protest against the war.
Thank you so much. We.. well, possibly we aren't trying our best collectively, but it isn't so easy. At all.
I'm so sick of hearing "Russians this, russians that". Yeah, trample us to the ground so that even the ones willing to fight get discouraged. We need support fighting the bunker rat as much as the Ukrainians do. We have a common enemy.
There is a running theme with Ukrainian politicians I've noticed throughout this whole sad chapter of history... They have big massive Steel Balls.
The president will not leave his people to suffer and die while he could turn tail and run. He's right there with them to the end.
The Mayor of Kyiv is an ex-boxer and has tooled up to fight Russians with his neighbours.
The ex-president has tooled up his neighborhood and is ready to fight and die for his people.
This guy stands in front of the world's powers and tells Putin to kill himself like a little bitch like Hitler did back in 1945.
Titanic Steel Fucking Balls.
Can we in the UK and US really say the same about our leaders? Would they stand up in the open while the bombs fall and tell Putin to fuck off? Or would they cower in their nuke-proof bunkers miles underground while their people get blown up defending their land?
If our leaders in the west were as bad ass as these fuckers are I think a lot less of us would be disillusioned with our respective ineffectual leaderships, because they'd actually get shit done.
Our leadership is all geriatric except for a very few members of congress. I don't really care about term limits so much as i think we should force a mandatory retirement age for federal offices.
He can't physically launch any nuclear weapons by himself, and I'd like to think the people who'd be told it's time to end the world because they lost the war would be too hesitant to actually do it.
I'm not sure if we, as savages of the wild internet, as redditors appreciate what this guy just did.
This isn't your typical edgy memelord saying Nazi this, Hitler that on a public forum, hiding under an anonymous internet tag.
This guy has possibly spent decades in the public eye, and represents millions of Ukrainians on the most literal meaning of "the world stage".
This guy, in his official capacity, just asked one of the most powerful men on Earth, to consider killing himself like Hitler did.
What a statement.
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Wow, he really has had no more fucks to give since last week
They've given absolutely zero fucks. Coincidentally, the amount of fucks given by Ukraine is somehow still worth more than the Ruble.
Very good š
This is my new favorite repeated reddit comment.
Zelensky and this madlad are filling the history books with mic drops day after day after day.
Ukrainians are made of poems I swear
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When the Soviet Union collapsed, the wall wasnāt torn down, the Ukrainians ate the Iron Curtain for breakfast.
I know most people think their grandparents were badass (and most from that generation are!) but my Ukrainian grandfather was particularly cut from something different. He came to America in 1919 after his village kept getting ravaged during the Russian Revolution, worked 12-hour shifts at the steel factory his entire life, making extra cash on the side to support his 8 kids as a bare knuckle boxer (even after a long day at the mill.) He served in WW2 and received a medal while stationed at Pearl Harbor during the attack. A story he never once talked about (but has been corroborated by multiple sources) is that he killed a man who challenged him to a fight with a single blow, earning him a reputation that made it all the way up to the highest level of the military and led to him becoming the personal body guard to a colonel for years. There is so much more I wish I knew about the man but I do know he saw some insane stuff in his life and it never once broke him. Dude was an absolute beast until the day he died and I know itās 100% because he came from Ukraine.
It is fitting. Many of our greatest Ukrainians are poets, including the most famous - Taras Shevchenko.
Seeing your home country being carpet bombed will quickly make you fed up with bullshit. Edit: some people pointed out it may not be carpet bombing but some other kind of large area of effect bombing. I'm not a military expert but either way they're bombing large city areas without any tentative of avoiding civilians. Kharkiv seems to have taken a lot of damage.
Next peace talks between Russia and Ukraine they'll be asking the Russian delegation if Putin has considered killing himself.
Putin might be considering it now given that his offshore assets are pretty much frozen and the oligarchs are turning on him
Goddess of Geneva please strike down this tyrant with mighty fist of justice.
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Remove the Oligarchs too. They let it get this bad.
They should've been given the wall two decades ago
People are being SO TOUCHY about using the right bombing terminology
Tbh bombing civilian areas is bad, regardless of the type of bomb used. Very weird gatekeepers here who know everything
Heās about to tell Putin to put some sunflower seeds in his pocket.
Is it against sanctions to mail Putin sunflower seeds? Edit: If anyone wants to his public correspondence address is 23, Ulitsa Ilyinka, 103132, Moscow, Russia
They might make an exception, though customs really doesnāt like seeds crossing borders.
Usually seeds like other materials are supposed to go through quarantine restrictions. Either way if anyone wants to try apparently his address for public correspondence is 23, Ulitsa Ilyinka, 103132, Moscow, Russia
Really? Because I am holding a dog turd in a bag that I'm looking for a trash can for. . .
Shelling of Kharkiv by russian forces 28.02.22
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You can still hang a corpse
You know what? Thatās a better idea. I can agree to that.
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Iād even install TikTok to see that!
Fortnite dancing in the background and all
I absolutely love how he throws every last bit of formal political bullshit out the window when his country is being shelled like that. What an absolute legend.
āEat a bullet bitchā Sincerely everyone
I enjoy the era of blunt truth politics that Ukraine is ushering in Hoping that Americans follow the trend
For this to become more common would definitely be welcome. Bit of wishful thinking, perhaps...
In the US "blunt truth politics" means putting up a few of those "I'm gonna be racist and say f*g so you can shut up or GET OUT" signs in your yard
Ukraine is just filled to the fucking brim with Chads holy shit.
These people are fucking HARD. It's like an entire nation of gigachads.
Honestly. Any Ukranian I come across in life is getting a beer bought for them, and a wheelbarrow to take the weight off those fucking testicles.
Even the women?
***Especially*** the women
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2022/feb/25/ukrainian-woman-sunflower-seeds-russian-soldiers-video Especially the women.
Duuuuuuude surprised those soldiers didn't just die from the heat of that burn.
That woman said the most bad ass thing Iāve ever heard. Sheās a legend.
Tatiana of Jinjer
Jinjer is badass. I'm so glad to be seeing their Instagram posts saying everyone in Ukraine is safe so far. Edit: a letter
The lady telling the soldier to put sunflower seeds in his pocketsā¦
She has bigger balls than most guys. Sheās a real CHAD.šÆ
Who do you think raised those kids
Everyone was thinking it, he came out and said it.
Next step is for Putin to act on the suggestion.
I really hope it is with a Javelin.
Iām not sure which version of javelin you mean here, but after thinking about it, Iām fine with either one
The spear kind is more sensational.
Cage match with a grizzly bear would be more culturally appropriate. That would leave at least a chance for Putin to flex his manliness one last time.
> That would leave at least a chance for Putin to flex his manliness one last time. And it would feed the grizzly.
They could film it so someone would be at least a nominee for an Oscar, probably the grizzly.
Griz gets the Noble Peace Prize.
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Lol right, there's already been lots of edits with putin and Hitler mashups
Damn. Whatās cooler than being cool?
Ice cold
alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright
You think you've got it. Oh you think you've got it.
^^nothing ^^^lasts ^^^^forever
Then what makes then what makes
*LOVE THE EXCEPTION?*
So why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh
Are we so in denial when we know we're not happy here?
#yāall donāt wanna hear me. you just wanna dance
Alright alright alright alright alright
Fact is, Russian heat-seeking ordnance works poorly against Ukraininan targets. This is partly because a lot of Russian military technology is old, and because every Ukrainian man, woman, and child has ice in their veins, apparently.
But a fire in their eyes.
His entire speech was amazing. He read the last text messages between a dead Russian soldier and his mother, and it was absolutely heartbreaking. The soldier realized everything Russia said about the situation was a lie. \[update: you can watch it here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbiikviPOa8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbiikviPOa8) \]
The absolute balls on this guy to end his speech with a "raise your hand if your country voted to add Russia to the UN in accordance with the article" and he's like "oh I don't see any hands? Perhaps I'll put on my glasses lest my vision fail me. No one? Keep that in mind when you listen to the Russian delegate"
Guy is fucking amazing and has the patience of a saint to remain diplomatic while telling his enemy to fuck off.
Diplomacy is telling your opponent to go fuck themselves in such a manner that they enjoy the ride.
Iām officially going to pronounce the word ābun-kerā as āboon-kerā after this. Iām fucking done with believing certain pplās maintained bullshit and so therefore this is what it will be from now on.
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I thought that was very interesting, but donāt fully know the historical context. Why was it that they shouldnāt have had a seat?
Basically the USSR had a permanent seat and veto power on the UN Security Council, and with the fall of the soviet union, the Russian Federation inherited the seat and veto power. Some people claim that Russia doesn't have rights to that seat
Yeah, there is no official succession mechanism, but the other members just agreed to not object.
We are dealing with issues that at the time our grandfathers said āweāll leave the headache up to future generations.ā
For something started by a generation who lived through WWII, you would think they'd write the UN laws so countries have to earn leadership privileges, not just inherit them.
Hindsight clouds our understanding. At the time, I'd imagine everyone was glad the Cold War was over and no one could imagine it occurring ever again with what we'd all learned. Countries were being created, such as Ukraine. Things looked more positive. Edit: As per below, clarified that Ukraine is a country.
>no one could imagine it occurring ever again with what we'd all learned. Just like what people thought after the horror of WW1, it was to be the great war, a war to end all wars. You'd think everyone learned something especially after WW2 happened but now yet again there is war in Europe
I feel like after every war humans are like, "woah that was awful, surely no one will be stupid enough to do it again" Narrator: They were
1:47 in for those tight on time.
I'm surprised the didn't end his speech by "Russia warship, go fuck yourself ".
[Did you hear about those guys on Snake Island?](https://www.euronews.com/2022/02/28/ukraine-war-snake-island-border-guards-are-alive-and-well-says-ukrainian-navy)
Oh my god they might still be alive? I hope they are.
I donāt know about that.. if they are still alive, they are POWās. Probably not getting hot teas and food like the Russian prisoners areā¦
It might be a good idea to avoid tea from Russia anyway.
Never take tea in Russia, you never know what they might Putin it.
Isn't sending soldiers on excercises and leading them into an unknown invasion a war crime?
No declaration of war, everything is a war crime. That's the major point.
1:47-3:44 That was devastating
When he asked everyone to raise their hand to see who voted for Russia to join the UN that was crazy. But THEN he threw on his glasses and goes ājust to make sure my vision isnāt failing meā¦ā that was impressive. Does anyone know where to find the Russian Ambassadors Speech in response to this? (Iām referencing the full address video above if you have not watched itā¦ very compelling)
Many young men from Russian being captured in battle have said they have been manipulated and lied to. A lot of them had no real clue what was actually going on, just following orders or die/family dieā¦.
āThe guy in Berlinā literally the biggest slap in the face to Hitler
He even started to say Germany and fixed himself in his passion. Good stuff
Because Putin is like Hitler. He does what is in his own best interest with a complete disregard for his citizens.
that is how we should refer to midget in moscow. that guy in bunker.
We generally refer to him as the bunker rat 'round here.
Perfect!
The Botox gnome.
Yāall talkin about Papa Pooty Moonface?
Honestly removing the names of people who commit atrocities takes away so much power from them. In NZ, we didnāt have the Christchurch shooters name on any media outlets. It was essentially banned (not legally, just a populous coming together to make sure he didnāt get what he wanted). I can honestly tell you I donāt know the guys name. If I stumble across a video where they may mention it (typically American videos would), I naturally click off. I refuse to learn his name and so do a lot of other people. Dude wanted fame, he didnāt get shit. A bit harder to remove Hitlers name, but even so, being just āsome guyā is a powerful damn move. Editing to add: I should have guessed someone would say his name, silly me. Instead, let me add a list of the victims of the event. Theyāre the ones who deserve to be remembered. Mujaad (Mucad) Ibrahim - 3YO Lilik Abdul Hamid - 57YO Sayyad Milne - 14YO Hamza Mustafa - 16YO Khaled Mustafa - 45YO Atta Elayyan - 33YO Tariq Omar - 24YO Husne Ara Parvin - 44YO Ashraf Ali - 58YO Ashraf Ali - 61YO Syed Jahandad Ali - 34YO Mian Naeem Rashid - late-40s Talha Naeem Rashid - 21YO Farhaj Ahsan - 30YO Syed Areeb Ahmed - 26YO Sohail Shahid - 40YO Maulana Hafiz Musa Patel - 59YO Dr Haroon Mahmood - 40YO Haji-Daoud Nabi - 71YO Dr Abdus Samad - 67YO Dr Amjad Hamid - 57YO Osama Adnan Abu Kweik - 37YO Muse Nur Awale - 77YO Mohsin Al Harbi - 63YO Abdukadir Elmi - 70YO Mohammed Omar Faruk - 36YO Mojammel Hoq - 30YO Hussein Moustafa - 70YO Abdelfattah Qasem - 60YO Linda Armstrong - 65YO Zeeshan Raza - 38YO Ghulam Hussain - in his 60s Karam Bibi - in her 60s Mohammed Imran Khan - 47YO Hussein Al-Umari - 35YO Junaid Ismail - 36YO Zakaria Bhuiyan (missing, presumed dead) - age unknown Abdul Fattah Qassim al-Daqqah - 59YO Ali Elmadani - 65YO Kamel Darwish - 38YO Maheboob Khokhar - 65YO Asif Vora - 56YO Ramiz Vora - 28YO Ansi Alibava - 23YO Ozair Kadir - 25YO Munir Suleiman - 68YO Ahmed Jamal al-Din Abdul Ghani - 68YO Ashraf Morsi - age unknown Ashraf al-Masri - age unknown Matiullah Safi - age unknown Kia kaha.
I don't know his name either and you are correct, that is a good thing. We should remember the tragedy and the victims, not the perpetrators.
Anyone who thinks Ukraine has been anything other than masterful with international press and PR is delusional. The ambassador's speeches, the transformation of the President into the biggest hero in the West, and the average Ukrainians keeping the message going have all been super impressive, unexpected and extremely effective.
When Ukraine set up a hotline for Russian military families to call to see if their loved ones had been captured or killed, that really was a master stroke of both PR and a powerful propaganda tool to demoralize Russian troops. I was honestly impressed with how they handled that. By the way, Iām not using the word āpropagandaā in a negative or derogatory way. Even the truth can be used as propaganda. It doesnāt have to be only lies. Iām not entirely sure Putin understands that.
Was getting ready to ask you to not redefine words please and you taught me something sir. May we all have the strength to check ourselves before we wreck our world. https://www.etymonline.com/word/propaganda?utm_source=app Edit: the reason I quoted the etymology and not the dictionary definition is because I was more surprised to find it had always been a neutral word, perhaps even more often used positively, than negatively.
Hence the issue with people on reddit assuming that āpropagandaā is always negative. I was ready to back it up, because I knew thereād be āwell akshuallysā showing up. Even humanitarian messages use propaganda to promote ideas and beliefs. Edit: trying to spell while in a meeting did not go well for meā¦
Im glad there's people like you who understand, and were ready to back it up, propaganda is a umbrella term and isn't necessarily a bad "thing" exactly like ignorant, people use it like an insult, when all its means is a lack of knowledge. People are ignorant on what propaganda acksually means.
That's for sure, it's interesting seeing how the social media is used in the conflict
Previous wars were televised. This fucker's being *livestreamed...*
the fact every captured russian has been treated with some level of decency is doing a lot for ukrain aswell. they know this war is against putin, not the 25 year olds who are being uswd as cannon fodder
I'm no expert by any means, but the PR, etc is fascinating to watch. Historians are going to be talking about this in future.
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Putin has forever immortalized himself along the likes of Stalin and Hitler for being amongst the most hated leaders in the western world. It's actually remarkable how quick he went from just being a joke to being universally despised.
He also rallied the world behind the US alliance system (NATO + Japan). He reversed a long trend of dwindling US hegemony Edit: Iād imagine China now has second thoughts about messing with Taiwan. Time will tell
I think this will play out in chinaās favor to some degree. As Russia is isolated from the rest of the world economically, China will be happy to lend a helping hand, gobbling up power within Russia for pennies on the ruble.
At this point, itās rubles on the penny.
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Feels much less like the world is rallying around the US and more like it's looking towards the strong treaties that holds disparate nations together. From a European perspective, especially outside the EU, that and NATO currently seem like godsends.
Even as an American, my viewpoint on the NATO developments is more the "unifying disparate nations" and giving them a US military boost, as opposed to rallying around the US. I just hope our overly-bloated military can actually do something to defend others for once, as opposed to being the aggressor, or choosing inaction.
Well its more like the world rallying around Ukraine.
I would argue that it is not just the western world that hates putin at this point, but the rest of the world as well, he somehow succeeded at threatening the entire world and not just europe and USA making hims probably more hated than even hitler himself. even hitler had more allies than putin. (though china in particular isn't just 'any' ally)
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This as an issue hadn't even occurred to me. I had to look up who was currently on the ISS: 4 Americans, 2 Russians and 1 German. I imagine their space dinner table conversation is somewhat tense and carefully handled right now.
Astronauts are scientists; considering how Putinās actions negatively impact Russiaās ability to participate in the global scientific community, I imagine everyone on board the ISS right now has pretty similar feelings towards Putin.
I mean, come on, even the damned *talibans* denounced him. You gotta be doing something terribly wrong if both the USA and the talibans hate you.
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The talibans are trying to legitimise their overtaking of Afghanistan of course they're going to jump on an easy win.
I fear he wants to be in the history books, the fucking psychopath
What's particularly interesting to me is that he didn't start as being a joke. I remember thinking he was pretty slick in interviews. He sounded smart and reasonable at first. This was before I realized he had started out as a spy, and that he longed for the Soviet Union to rise up again, and that he was a kleptocrat, a human rights abuser, etc.
If only one of Putins cronies would turn on him. Seize the opportunity to liberate his country from a madman. They might be Putin light, but anything has to be better then whatās going on now
What if this is an opportunity for Russia to democratize? Removing Puting doesn't solve any systematic problems. Who says Putin 2.0 wouldn't rise in 30 years?
Hey Putin, put some sunflowers seeds in your pocket and fuck off.
He was like "should I say it, should I say it, fuck it, I am chad enough to not care.."
Well, can't embarras those whose last words were "Go fuck yourself" and heard globally. Ukraine now has a very high bar of no fucks to give and no filters to apply lol. Balls of steel lol.
How do I call someone Hitler without saying the word Hitler?
Ukrainian Matthew Perry said it best
Wah that's what it is! Could this guy BE any more convincing?
'The guy in the bunker... in 1945'
At this point there shouldn't be any restraints, just speak whatever your heart tells you. You know you're 100% on the right side of history.
Saying the quiet part out loud.
The good quiet part though.
This is a man with no fucks left to give.
I think at this point this is no longer the quiet part. I heard my boss who is always as neutral as they come, apolitical, doesnāt discuss religion or personal beliefs of any sort, say āthis guy just needs to croakā. I never advocate for violence or wish harm on others, but if Putin killed himself I would feel joy. He might be the only person on earth I can say that about.
This week is the first time Iāve ever heard people comparing a living person to Hitler without any exaggeration. And itās true. Putin is a historically despicable person
The comparisons are apt. If we are to take at face value his statement regarding the restoration of a "historical Russia" it is fairly indistinguishable from Nazi expansionist aspirations, albeit under different pretexts. A historical Russia, as in similar to the largest extend of the Empire of Russia, encompasses a large swath of thr globe. It includes all of Eastern Europe, including all of Finland and some of Sweden. Putin has said that one of his demands is for NATO to move back to their pre-1997 boundaries. This is back to Germany. Asking for Eastern Europe to once again be in thrall to Russia. His statement was insane and if they are true aspirations (I don't think they are and I hope not) he is nothing but a Hitler-esque assholes. I sincerely hope he does kill himself. Generally I would never say that as I have lost friends and family to suicide. But fuck Putin. Fuck this man. He lost all ability to negotiate when he invaded another country. Reasons for doing so do not matter, you invaded you are wrong. If you invade another country to act as a colonizers you deserve to be ground into a bloody pulp and hosed into the sewers.
Don't forget how he threatened to nuke any country that sends troops to help Ukraine. To me, that is the thing that puts him up there with the likes of Hitler.
There is no more quiet part in regards to this. Russia is bombing, raping, shooting, rampaging his country. He's fed up, the West initially left UA to their own devices. Now they're giving material support, but RU can still punish from where they're at in UA.
I love this. Heās like āI canāt let my president be the only one laying the smack down! What can I do from here?ā *notices Russian diplomat* āOh yeah, thereās my bitchā
Putin is an incompetent, delusional and selfish 'leader' that nobody wants. Not even his own people. Russia has no future with Putin. He will bring only ruin. The Russian people need to stand up and get rid of him.
How could they not like him? He's a [master archaeologist](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/12/vladimir-putin-greek-urns-ridicule), a handsome [horseback rider](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-28/vladimir-putin-rides-a-horse-in-siberia-*reuters*/12009852?nw=0), a [successful fisherman](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/05/vladimir-putin-fishes-dives-and-swims-during-siberian-vacation/542465001/), an [olympic-level swimmer](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/aug/06/vladimir-putin-butterfly-stroke), a [9 dan black belt in Taekwondo](http://www.worldtaekwondo.org/wtnews/view.html?nid=5831&sc=ne&w=putin), and the [sexiest man alive](https://www.complex.com/life/vladimir-putin-sexiest-man-alive-russian-poll)! What? Just because "the Russian economy is in shambles" and "He ordered several hundred human rights abuses in the past few days" you think that the Russian people aren't a fan of him? (/s)
"hitler did one thing right"
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This ambassador is fed up. Putin has to realize he has lost by now.
I worry he has only surrounded himself with yes men who wont tell him or more likely are to afraid to tell him the truth.
Have you seen him play hockey? He even surrounds himself with āyes athletesā. Theyāre trash and let him score. He canāt even handle the slightest competition or opposition. An absolute child.
Oh god...that was so embarrassing. Him playing against professional olympic athletes and Putin outscores them every time. Such a fucking joke. Billionaires are worthless.
On Kim Il-Sung's first and only round of golf he scored a 34 for 18 holes, with five holes in one. So Putin's got a ways to go before his yes-men are THAT good.
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Lmao i saw that clip.. who the hell wants to play like that?? Lol the other players wouldnt go near him
don't worry, that's exactly what's happened.
My thought, though perhaps uninformed, is that after years of being the top dog doing what he wants in his country with impunity (such as: killing political opponents, dissidents, journalists; ruling unopposed; beholden to no one) he genuinely thought he could do the same on the world stage, especially with how Crimea went.
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Putin has a major problem now, he has to extract himself and the army out of Ukraine in such a way that the public don't string him up from a lamppost.
I pray you are right but this war is less than a week old. Wars can last years
I have a real question. Has Putin given up his life with this move? I donāt pretend to understand international law, war crimes and the punishments which go with them. I have lived through Husain and Bin Laden losing their lives. Everyone has been taught the fate of Hitler(to the best of recorded knowledge). Is Putin in a death sentence situation here?
Putin lost before they crossed over into Ukraine. "They may have won the battle but they will lose the war" They can take Ukraine but it will be pointless now without an economy.
That reminded me of another fitting quote, "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win", and if that doesn't describe the entire morale of Ukrainian vs russian soldiers then I don't know what does. Even if russia does eventually overwhelm Ukraine, they will not be any better than when they started.
Matthew Perry has gone up in the world since finishing friends.
Yeah, it's uncanny. I'm expecting to hear 'Mr. Putin, could you BE any lamer' all the time. An ideal casting for the upcoming documentary!
Maybe he will kill himself with 22 bullets to the back of the headā¦ definitely suicide.
The Ukrainian people are what the Russians pretend to be, patriotic, proud, and strong. Also it would appear the Russian people have far more empathy than Putin would lead people to believe. It is unfortunate that they are being forced into a conflict that they appear to have no interest in, because of a tyrant they didn't elect to office. It is a travesty that the Ukrainian people have to suffer and die for it.
As a Finn I have a long history of ā¦healthy respect of the neighbor we have. We donāt fear them, we trade (at least used to) with them and try our most to maintain peace. That said, I am absolutely positively surprised by the russian folks gathering in the cities of russia to speak against the war and the government. It needs some serious bravery to speak your mind in that country.
The police behaves quite brutally. But still it's not as violent as it was in 2019 or last year. So it's survivable. But there are thousands of people detained and fined all over the country. Those bastards even detained an old lady who survived Siege of Leningrad and still came to protest against the war.
Thank you so much. We.. well, possibly we aren't trying our best collectively, but it isn't so easy. At all. I'm so sick of hearing "Russians this, russians that". Yeah, trample us to the ground so that even the ones willing to fight get discouraged. We need support fighting the bunker rat as much as the Ukrainians do. We have a common enemy.
Man, the whole ass world loves Ukraine now.
There is a running theme with Ukrainian politicians I've noticed throughout this whole sad chapter of history... They have big massive Steel Balls. The president will not leave his people to suffer and die while he could turn tail and run. He's right there with them to the end. The Mayor of Kyiv is an ex-boxer and has tooled up to fight Russians with his neighbours. The ex-president has tooled up his neighborhood and is ready to fight and die for his people. This guy stands in front of the world's powers and tells Putin to kill himself like a little bitch like Hitler did back in 1945. Titanic Steel Fucking Balls. Can we in the UK and US really say the same about our leaders? Would they stand up in the open while the bombs fall and tell Putin to fuck off? Or would they cower in their nuke-proof bunkers miles underground while their people get blown up defending their land? If our leaders in the west were as bad ass as these fuckers are I think a lot less of us would be disillusioned with our respective ineffectual leaderships, because they'd actually get shit done.
Our leadership is all geriatric except for a very few members of congress. I don't really care about term limits so much as i think we should force a mandatory retirement age for federal offices.
All it would take is 1 of Putinās security officers to have a spineā¦
Why do you think he sits so far from them? He's not a complete idiot. He knows some people internally have plotted his death.
Could this BE anymore madness?
Heās right. Weāre in a global Mexican standoff against some real dumbass people right now. Either we all die, or he dies. Fuck Putin.
He can't physically launch any nuclear weapons by himself, and I'd like to think the people who'd be told it's time to end the world because they lost the war would be too hesitant to actually do it.
I wonder how he really feels? Hard to tell behind all this smoke and mirror diplomatic politically correct phrasing.
Or his people could do to him what Iraq's people did to Saddam near the end.
Or Qaddafi. Or Mussolini.
My man is spitting straight facts.
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I'm not sure if we, as savages of the wild internet, as redditors appreciate what this guy just did. This isn't your typical edgy memelord saying Nazi this, Hitler that on a public forum, hiding under an anonymous internet tag. This guy has possibly spent decades in the public eye, and represents millions of Ukrainians on the most literal meaning of "the world stage". This guy, in his official capacity, just asked one of the most powerful men on Earth, to consider killing himself like Hitler did. What a statement.
This guy is so cool! I wish he was our ambassador.