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Accept A, put your start date out just a bit more than 2 weeks.
Tell B, you have offer in hand, do not disclose details of deal or your preference.
If B comes thru you can accept it and acceptably recind the A offer as long as you have not started. Not taking an offer is slightly toasting the bridge before starting.
A is likely to sense what is going on and may up the anti.
You need to put a deadline on B and make them stick to it. For B employer seems you are the second pony in the race.
Old adage one in the hand (sure thing) is worth two in the bush (which is not a sure thing) .
And to piggyback just know this happens all the time in the real world so you don’t have to feel bad. I had an A/B situation a few years back where a friend had also referred me to A. Accepted A, eventually got a better offer from B and I knew A wouldn’t match as I was already at the top of their salary bracket. I simply told A hey I’m sorry I got an offer for 35% more and I can’t turn that kind of money down, any human being will totally understand that. Ended up working at B for 4 years and switched over to A for a much more senior role later when I moved on from B
I had to quit a job after 5 weeks because I got an offer at a job a friend referred me too, 30% raise, spectacular benefits. I went in and told my boss that I was very sorry but I had to quit, he wanted to counter but couldn’t beat my offer. I finished out my two weeks, they took me out to lunch, had no hard feelings. It was thought it was embarrassing but it was what was best for me and my family.
As a hiring manager who’s seen this a few times, I can tell you it is super annoying. When a candidate accepts an offer typically all hiring on the position gets stopped. Other candidates are told to move on. Starting up again in a month or so often means starting from scratch, which can lead to losing the position entirely. People forget eventually but it doesn’t leave a very positive impression. I think the correct answer is to tell A that they’re just going to need to wait a few days because you have another offer incoming and B that they need to expedite pronto.
I understand what you are saying but this approach only benefits the company and not the individual and this is about the best course of action for the individual
Exactly. Fuck the company. We are seeing big corp's true colors in real time with all of these layoffs and shitty severance packages.
The days of playing nice are over. I'm doing what's best for me.
OP, accept A. Wait to see if B comes in. If it does, take it and don't look back. You better believe A would do the same thing to you.
I work in healthcare recruiting and I 100% agree with this. Is it annoying from our side? Yeah, but these are people that need to do what's best for them, their life, their family, ect., not what's best for a company. This is why hiring managers keep a secondary candidate "on hold" (not call right away with rejection notice) until your primary candidate makes their decision.
Also in situations like this is always okay to email and say you're waiting on another offer, deadlines can usually be pushed a bit.
Yeah like you said though you are a hiring manager. If you are a good worker and a hard worker normally what drives you getting hired is internal connections at companies (for example me getting hired is based off other engineers knowing I’m a good engineer) not the hiring manager being annoyed I rescinded acceptance of a job. If I annoy you I don’t mind in the slightest, any normal employee at a company understands money is money and no human being can honestly expect someone else not to take a 38+25=63% raise in OP’s case.
I’m not in the boat as some of the others with the whole “you owe these companies nothing” or “they would fire you without notice so why should you give them any respect” sort of thing. But being loyal to the employer and losing out on life changing money is stupid and if I hired someone that did that I would think they are an idiot
Yeah, I understand. Thinking back through the times when recruiting suggested giving somebody a deadline though, if I was told they had another offer coming it would’ve been pushed. The only exception is if I were about to lose the position. So I think it might be worth it to the employee to just ask the question and negotiate a bit. Reference checks should take all of a day or two. The advantage is this might get the other company to move faster. Most companies are not going to behave super unreasonably.
What this person said. I’d even be tempted to say take A whilst waiting on B, and B comes through leave A (assuming employment at will - no written contract)
Yeah people forget, you can leave a job at will. There is no loyalty needed since they have none for you! Although they might not consider you in the future but hey you can do the same for them if they shame you for it. Life is a two way street!
agreed, but to a degree, it seems like there is a psychological "objection" (on the part of the potential offeror) to appearing like you are "rushing" or "more certain" because the applicant has another offer--causing the opposite reaction (decision NOT to offer).
I did this today. I’m at the same stage with a few companies and my first offer came in today. It’s a good offer and it’s my 2nd choice job/company.
I emailed my first choice job/company and told them I’d received an offer, they’re still my preference and that if I’m still under consideration the drop dead on my offer is Thursday, so I need to know by then to consider them.
I’m not passing up a 35k increase because my preferred employer isn’t moving as quickly as they said they would. I don’t expect their offer to be any more, just a better fit culturally.
you do you, but if job A gives me a deadline and job B hasn't replied I will accept job A and quit if I get a better offer from job B. I will look out for myself first. a company will lay you off without hesitation if it benefits them. ask me how I know.
The issue with accepting and then dropping is that a friend referred them for job A, so they put them at risk of looking bad if they drop the accepted offer. Normally I’d agree with you, but burning a good connection can be catastrophic depending on your industry and circle.
I work in banking and I’ve sent out dozens of referrals. It’s very common for people to accept an offer, then back out a week or two or even a month or two in because they received a better offer elsewhere.
None of my bosses have seen that and said anything other than they hope that person is happy and the new role works out to be a better fit. $35k+bonus is a valid and understandable reason.
Employers wanna play hard ball and ask for an immediate answer, give the answer based on the info you have right now. If information changes, adjust accordingly and apologize profusely. Normally genuine apologies are enough to not burn a bridge, and put off the feeling of I’ll will.
Loyalty doesn't pay. In the majority of industries you will be given low wage increases and shepherded out even putting in decades of work. It is common for folks even referred folks to join then quit in the first month if it isn't a good fit. Not sure why you think this is bad advice.
My man, a company would not think twice to drop you if someone else came in to offer the same work for half the pay. So you should have the same approach if you get offered somewhere with double the pay. Companies will always look out for themselves. You have to look out for yourself too. If he plans on working at company A in the future, then yeah he needs to go about this differently to avoid burning bridges. If he doesn’t plan on it, then who cares?
I’m not taking a 35% cut just because “I’m loyal” lol. Especially to a company he only has talked with for like a few weeks.
yup, you owe these companies NOTHING. take the offer and renege if you get the other offer. otherwise you got yourself a good job and can continue looking for an even better one
No it’s such a bad look to drop right after being hired and you’ll burn a bridge with that company. Tell the first company you need more time to make the decision and see how they respond. Ask for 2-3 more days at least and hold out for the other company. You can also tell company B you have an existing offer which will get them moving a little bit
Important note here - we don't know who these companies are or in what industry. If company "A" is the largest employer in the industry and just an absolute juggernaut then yes, you should be careful to not burn a bridge as it might come back to haunt you years down the road.
On the other if company "A" is just one more company in an industry with hundreds or thousands of possible employers then burning a bridge with them to get $35,000 more is not a dumb risk at all.
Accept the first offer and then politely rescind it if company B gets back to you. You don’t want to lose an opportunity to leave your current company and no one can argue with a better offer if that’s what ends up happening.
A friend from my network referred me to Company A, which makes me more hesitant to do that. I know it's probably the most logical thing to do, but makes me feel like shit.
Unfortunately burning bridges is sometimes inevitable. My assumption is they probably won't start you for at least a week; if company B sends you a better offer, you could rescind and just say you received a $35,000 increased offer the next day. (even if it's a few days out)
They can't really argue that you're just doing what is in your best interest. It would be pretty *shitty of them* to be upset that you are taking an offer that's significantly better than theirs.
Really early in my career I had a similar situation happen. I applied for a job and accepted and when I turned around to put in my two week notice, my boss countered with a 50% increase, which was well over what the job offered. It felt crappy, but I was upfront and they understood. (The job I accepted was about 25% more than I was making before the counter)
Yeah; it was my first 'big boy' job out of college, so one of those "take whatever you can get situations." I didn't really have experience and even at the time I knew I was pretty underpaid. (hence why I started looking after about 2-3 yrs)
Fast forward and I'm still here 12 yrs later in a very senior position.
This is exactly why being upfront with a company can benefit you not only now, but in the long run. If they want you, they'll give a better offer. If they simply can't, you're only benefiting yourself by taking a more lucrative opportunity.
I’d feel bad for about 5 seconds until I realize that means I can buy a boat this year. And a classic muscle car next year. Save for my kids college in 2 years.
The fact that Company A's offer has a one day time bomb should make you feel less bad about the popular option, even if you were a referral.
Maybe your friend doesn't get the bonus, but most companies won't hurt someone over a referral that didn't work out.
Also that's a 55k-68K difference in compensation, in the first year alone. Assuming no annual raise, in two years that's $110-136k. So I say take the "feel kinda bad" route. If you feel extra bad (which you shouldn't at all), take your referral out to dinner or something as a "thanks and sorry".
Always reference the family. “Unfortunately, I got an offer for substantially more and while I want to work with you. Long term I feel compelled to think about the impact on my family”
3rd.
This is the way.
Accept the role. Wait for the other offer and say “another offer came in that I didn’t think I would get, so I am going with them.”
Be aware though that you will burn the bridge of your referee unless you two are like grade-school tight.
You don’t ghost companies for no reason. Depending on the industry, there are probably people at A that know B and vice versa. Even if that’s not the case, why make an ass of yourself for no reason?
Accept offer A and wait it out. If you get offered B, be professional end tell A that you got a substantially better offer that you can’t turn down.
This is the exact wrong answer like half of the ones in this sub. I assume most of posters like you have never held a professional job or are 22 with no clue.
I'm 36 and have been working since 18, at a variety of jobs including one in management.
You haven't bothered to explain what you even mean, but go off, I guess.
Do you know what At-Will is as in the context of this situation? Heres a bit of a knowledge drop regarding corporate American jobs from google search:
At-will means that an employer can terminate an employee at any time for any reason, except an illegal one, or for no reason without incurring legal liability. Likewise, an employee is free to leave a job at any time for any or no reason with no adverse legal consequences.
Seems obvious to me. Accept job A, then if job B comes through just quit job A. If they want a good reason just say "I was offered a huge pay bump to move." They will understand.
Why does company a need to know today? Can you tell them something came up and you'll give them an answer by the end of the week or something like that? I don't like pressure tactics.
I wouldn't rely on the person doing the interviews seeming eager to hire you based on a lot of factors. The person checking references might just be a friendly, enthusiastic person. Or the person making those calls might be eager to hire you, but other people involved in the decision might veto that in favor of another candidate. They might really want to hire you, but something changes and they decide to promote from within or to just not hire anyone at the moment.
Until an offer is made, so many things can change that you can't predict. So consider offer A as if it is your only offer.
If you then get the offer from B, consider it, understanding that it might be awkward to turn down A, but ultimately, business is business.
Depending on how close the friend is from your network, you can tell them your dilemma and see if it would harm them if you accept/wait/decline.
In the days of companies rescinding offers, I wouldn't feel to badly about accept/wait/decline. 40k is a big difference.
Likely your friend will understand. Perhaps not if they work there
I would accept company A then wait for company B to get there stuff together. If and when company B gives you the job, tell company A sorry but circumstances have changed and you can’t take the job.
I gave your question to ChatGPT, here is its response:
It's understandable to feel pressured when faced with a decision like this, but it's important to approach it logically and strategically. Here are some things to consider:
Timeline: Determine how long you think it will take for Company B to make a decision. If it's likely to take too long, you may need to consider accepting Company A's offer.
Preferences: Consider which company you would prefer to work for in the long-term, and which job aligns better with your career goals.
Compensation: Look at the overall compensation packages for both offers, including salary, bonus, benefits, and any other perks that are important to you.
Risk: Think about the level of risk you're willing to take. If you turn down Company A's offer and Company B doesn't come through, are you comfortable with the possibility of being unemployed?
Negotiation: If you do decide to accept Company A's offer, you can still negotiate for better compensation or benefits, such as a higher salary, more vacation time, or a flexible work schedule.
Based on these factors, here are some possible options:
Option 1: Accept Company A's offer and negotiate for better compensation or benefits. This may be the best option if you're concerned about the timeline or risk of waiting for Company B's decision.
Option 2: Decline Company A's offer and wait for Company B's decision. This may be the best option if you're confident that Company B will make an offer and you're willing to take the risk.
Option 3: Contact Company B and let them know about Company A's offer. This may prompt them to make a quicker decision or to offer better compensation to entice you to choose them over Company A.
Ultimately, the decision is yours and it depends on your personal priorities and risk tolerance. Just be sure to consider all factors before making a final decision.
Always accept the offer. If you get an offer from B you can always pull out. Absolutely NEVER hold out thinking you'll get one because that'll be the time you don't and you won't have any offers.
You should tell the other company about the offer. You should have told them as soon as it was made so they would have a chance to accelerate. Most will when it's competitive.
But you also don't hold out hope for an offer that's maybe never to come or might be much less than you expected.
But congrats!
About the fact that a friend referred you: this is nice when it happens. However, I don’t think your friend would lose sleep if you didn’t get the offer. Your only obligation is to conduct yourself in a business-like manner and look after your own interests.
If a company is checking references that usually means you got the job. Most companies don’t check references unless they’re ready to make an offer.
However… accept job A. And if Jon B offer shows up, you let A know what happened. They will be understanding, or will attempt to match the offer. In most cases you won’t go from 95 to 130k. Did you negotiate on that 95k at all? Maybe that can buy you some more time another day or so?
I am an HR Director and I give my candidates at least 4 days to decide on an offer. One day is not reasonable in my opinion even if you were referred by a friend. I wonder why companies don't give employees the time to think about the offer. Why are they trying to rush it? I have had it happen to me too and I am SO glad I did not take the role. Red Flag in my opinion.
I agree with some of the other posters, accept Job A and negotiate on the start date to buy some time to give Job B the chance to catch up. Then if Job B falls through you still are getting out of a job you hate.
One other tip, always keep looking even if you are happy.
Accept A and wait for B. Tell your reference how much more you’ll make at B. Everyone understands money. If reference is still mad, that person isn't a good reference and isn't very bright. They just got mad at their new reference to a $130k with 15-20% bonus structure company.
Give your acceptance for company A then wait for company B's response. If the response is positive, tell company A you changed your decision.
Meanwhile, you can also use this to your advantage. Tell company B you have an offer at hand to speed up their decision. Tell company A you have an offer at hand offering you a higher pay to renegotiate salary/terms if you're willing to.
Make sure to push the start date as far as possible for company A.
Accept A. If you get an offer from B, take it. You have to remember these companies will get rid of you without a second thought. Getting a replacement is no problem. Would they hesitate to lay you off or get rid of you? Probably not. Take what’s best for you and your family. My wife was in the same predicament. Accepted job A but then offered B. Went with B.
Agree with everyone here. Take the job A and don't say anything to B because it looks like blackmail and might backfire
Very few companies are loyal to employees. Plus it seems like for every three job offers you make to potential employees two never respond and one shows up
Tell company A you need to put in your 2 weeks and you need a extra 2 days for a "emergency" or appointment. That will buy you enough time to hear from company b. Then tell company b or a you got another offer and pit them against each other. Only think about yourself. Remember, they would lay you off withought a moments notice. You need to move accordingly. If they try to guilt trip you, don't fall for it. Tell them you're a supporter of capitalism or something cliche. You could also take job a and just quit when b comes through. You owe nothing to anyone. You're the prize, not the other way around.
Still do the suggestion of dropping A if company B offers. I'm sure they will understand and it can't possibly be the first time it has happened that a candidate doesn't choose to further their career at their company.
Ask the person who referred you if they think A would react if you asked for more time.
You could tell A you have a 130k offer that you have to look at seriously before accepting with A - you can indicate A as a serious first option and ask for 3-7 days whatever you think you need.
A 40k Bump is unlikely after one year so it feels like B is already a step up.
The only risk here is if A decides to rescind the offer and then B doesn’t offer but … if A is less money and recinds after you make a reasonable request did you really want to work there?
Play it smart and earn a few bucks on a check if you hear back from company B. I've done it before, and although it burns a bridge, at the end of the day, you do what's right for you.
If possible, try to extend the timeline for company A.
Did you tell company B that you have an exploding offer so they need to expedite your process? If they want you they will try to make the timing work.
I agree with the majority. Accept A. If B comes with an offer, fantastic! Drop A and go with B. Your friend will understand, and if not, they don't have your best interests at heart.
What you do is simple, accept the first offer and wait to hear from your preferred company. If they also give you an offer you tell the first company that circumstances have changed and that you can no longer accept the offer. They don’t need to know specifics.
This might seem like a scummy move but if it were reversed these companies would not hesitate to burn you every chance they get. No reason to pass up a sure thing waiting on the better offer, but also no reason not to take the better pay if you get it.
Take A, drop it if B comes through. You just say a much better opportunity came up, you apologize for the inconvenience, and go to B. You have to look out for number 1, and that's you.
Accept the offer you have in hand, and drop it when you get an offer form company B. Company A will understand, and if they don’t, it’s not your problem.
Accept the job right away.
If the higher salary goes through, take that one . Even with your edit, the salary difference is just too high to not do it. It kinda sucks and I get the hesitation, but at the end of the day you have to do what's best for you. That's a significant difference in lifestyle
As others have said:
Take the job at "A"....if "B" offers you the job - take it.
"A" would have no qualms firing you so have no bad feelings about working for "A" then going to "B"
Depends on the field of work to be honest, but some of those jobs out there are pretty good ones right now.
That is a pretty nice difference in pay too. I'd talk to company B before you give Company A a decision. In my personal experience, asking for a contingent offer is usually a good idea.
IE: Company B gives you an expedited offer contingent on their criteria. If they are willing to do that then look over their criteria and if you meet it then you should be good to go. Let company B know that you have received an offer from another company and you would like to negotiate, or refuse their offer.
Who knows, you might get a higher pay rate from company A.
I had a company put pressure on me to make a decision. It’s could be an indicator that they know you will find a better offer and what to put pressure. It could also mean they just need an employee desperately or want to move on too someone else if it’s not you. Generally speaking I would assume that most the time company A would be not a good place to work
I applied for this one job in my company and the hiring manager set up a call and said I didn't get it but should apply for another one of her positions that would be opening. I did, had the interviews in which one of the guys on the panel seemed to like me because he remembered me from the first one.
I thought I was going to get this position and slacked off at my current job and put off applying to jobs outside my company. I guess my point is, don't buy into the hype and make bad decisions because of it.
What I should have done when I was in this position, take up the first job offer, then when the references go through, take the second job offer and quit the first
Just say you’ll accept A!! And once you get B tell A you’ll no longer be joining them after all.
Have you received an offer from B? Because from my experience reference checks are done after they give you an offer. But if they’re checking yours before making an offer that’s also a good sign. I wouldn’t put pressure on them to hurry up or they’ll tell you to fuck off…that happened to me.
I think best thing to do is accept A and push start date 3-4 weeks out and hopefully by then you’ll know about B. If you get B and you clear that background check and are set up for onboarding….all you need to do is email A and tell them you’ll no longer be able to take the position
Be up front about having an offer needing a response. If Company B really wants to hire you and not lose you to Company A, they will do what is necessary to get you a response. Even if it’s a rejection for putting pressure on them. There’s no reason to hold back on this with potential employers.
Also inform Company A that you have a pending offer from Company B. You can sometimes work out an extension. But you really should give Company B a heads up that if they don’t respond by a reasonable amount of time, you will have to accept the other offer.
Tell A about B, and ask for a decision by X day. This will actually increase your cache. Tell B you accept, but you need to run such a momentous decision by your family before you start this next chapter in your life blabla pomp circumstance, and say you will make a decision by X+3. Don't ask, say. They might say they can't but they're almost certainly lying to jam you. The top candidate is still the top candidate a week later. It's hard but just do it.
If things hit the fan just accept A, then say you got an offer you can't refuse if you get B. It's worth avoiding stiffing your network, but it's the right choice if you have no other way around it.
Accept company A's offer with 2 weeks notice to your current position. If company B comes in with a higher offer, take it and tell company A that you will not be starting with them.
It’s probably too late but I’d accept company A and wait for company B. If company B comes back with an offer, then let company A know your circumstances changed. You owe no loyalty to anyone, especially a company that hasn’t given you a job offer. If you have to eventually walk away from company A, a few days isn’t going to make a huge difference. They already have others they interviewed and likely backup candidates so they can just offer their second or third choice the job.
wish I saw this earlier. in the same position (with internships) and I already rejected company A's offer, praying on company B's acceptance. Is it too late to let company B I have (had) another offer?
Your friend is great for referring you, but a 45k increase in pay is worth leaving over.
If you want you could go to company A after they hire you with company B offer and see if they can match or increase their offer. The point is, a job is about providing for you and yours, not making your friend look good.
take the company A offer, if company B offer comes through, take company B and drop company A.
It happens often, especially recently its more common, don't feel badly you owe them nothing.
Honestly I hate it when companies give you a few days to make a decision, one company gave me 2 days to decided and the hiring manager kept calling me 10 times! I rejected the job out of spite, I needed time to think FFS!
good companies usually give you at least an entire week to decide on an offer. heck with my current job I took 2 weeks negotiating and asking questions back and forth until I accepted.
The key here is that you are in a job you hate, and you have a job offer in hand.
The offer in hand is through a friend so you have some idea what the new work culture is like.
Company B could be more pay but it has an unknown culture. Also they may not give you the job.
As company A needs to know today, I would contact company B and say that you need to know today. If nothing from Company B by end of day, then I would except company A and go and work with my friend.
How long have you been keeping company A waiting for a response? It's typical for companies to give a week or so and if they insist you take it immediately I take that as a red flag. I would potentially ask them for an extension
But it’s so wrong if a company lets highly paid employees go to hire people who will do more for the same pay or work for less. Bunch of hypocritical assholes giving advice here.
I’ll get lambasted for this seemingly unpopular opinion I’m sure, but: Both companies have invested solid time and resources into interviewing you, as well as losing out on other candidates/those candidates having lost out on a the opportunities offered, in a very tough job market. Company A has pretty reasonably given you a week to make a decision also.
Frankly, you already know what you’re going to do OP. You already know it’s a sh!tty thing to do to company A, and you/we know you’re just here to crowdsource a rationalization for it with confirmation bias.
In before the angry *“Those” companies don’t give a sh!t about you* mob… Unless I’m missing it, OP gave no insight into what companies these are. I have no idea if they’re a small startup that will suffer from a drop-out, or otherwise.
What would happen if you accept the job and then quit for the better offer if it comes through. That seems like to most "business like" solution. Employees need to act like a business would act.
Tech companies are doing mass lay off right now for media likes, you should all show the same loyalty. Stop trying to be good dogs, when you are running from wolves.
Press B to give you a response faster and press A to give you more incentive. However this takes very delicate negotiation skills and it could risk you losing both, so if you’re unsure about it then I’d suggest just go with A. But keep records of B’s offer for raise negotiations with A in the future.
Try to negotiate further with A. "I'd like to accept your offer, but it's less than I was expecting, is there any room for negotiating components? If you can't move on the salary, perhaps bonuses, time off, benefits or roadmap for salary increase?"
Should get you another day for negotiation at least.
If they end up playing hardball, that's a good indicator they're going to be like that after you're hired too.
Accept Job A. Tell Job B you have a pending offer (no need to provide details) and to give you a response by X dare. If Job B gives you offer and is better than Job A, accept Job B and rescind Job A. (You’ll be burning a bridge with Job A) Good luck!
I had this same exact situation once. I held off for company B. After I accepted the offer from company B after turning down company A , company A came back around and asked if I was still available and wanted the job. It’s all made up.
Also, do you really kick off a job that has pressured you into accepting for less pay than you think you’re worth?
Tell A you need a week. Tell B you have an acceptable offer in hand and need a decision by X.
Absolutely don't accept A and then drop them for B if they come through.
Setting money aside for a bit, which job would you rather have?
any company pressuring you does it because they know their offer sucks. tell them they need to do better, if they press give them a number. also, say nothing because they will use anything you do say against you. keep them guessing, psychologically it will drive them mad!
also, eff these low ball orgs!
I wouldn’t risk putting a deadline on B, might just piss them off. Just take A, if B comes through, just quit and go to B, if it doesn’t, at least you got something. I wouldn’t risk telling B you have an offer on hand either, they might choose another candidate that is more fully “committed” and might see you as someone that could quit since you have “other offers”, they don’t know if it’s higher or lower.
You should have told option B you had an offer last week and use that to make them move faster. If they were truly considering you it would have caused them to expedite their process. You managed this poorly, imo.
"I don't want to make anybody mad."
You're not a little kid anymore, you can't please everybody. Changing your mind is not illegal and you won't go to prison.
Friend or not, nope, it does not.make a difference. You take care of you period. You're the only one in charge of your income, no other factors count, because your friend or that company is not going to put themselves in an uncomfortable position for you and back your play, ever.
Take the offer, when B comes through tell them, then go. You owe them nothing.
Contact Company B. Let them know the situation.
If they aren't prepared to offer you a position, accept Company A.
You can try to push the deadline for Company A. But they may not want to. Then you have to choose.
To me: A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I'd be leery of the advice to Accept A and hope for B later. Depending on the industry, these communities can be pretty small and burning bridges like that might bite you in the long run.
\[Edited\] Although at least some in this thread have evidence that it might not "bite" you in the in end.
Take the offer. If the other company gives you an offer then tell them that unfortunately another job countered at a ridiculous amount when you told them you took the first job in order to try not to burn bridges if you eventually want to work there.
Drop A. Unless your references completely torpedo you, or you've got something that fails the background check, you've got the job with B. It pays $35,000 per year more.
I had a company tell me I had 3 days to give a response, I just emailed the recruiter and said it was a big decision and asked for more time to decide. They were happy to accommodate. No garauntees this will happen for you but worst they can say is no :/
It means nothing that you got referred by a friend for job A. Your best option is to accept job A and if job B gives you an offer tell job A you were not expecting to get job B but it’s too good of an opportunity to pass and leave job A unless they can beat the offer
I had a similar situation at the end of 2023. I ended up taking option A wait for B to send me a offer. Well option B never got back with me on a offer or anything. If I would have waited I would've been out both opportunities.
I was just in this EXACT situation. I would accept A's offer. By telling B that you had another offer, that should have lit a fire under them if you were their top candidate. When/If B offers you the job, you could go to the accepted offer, A, and explain this to them and see how they would like to react. Your friend should understand that better pay and opportunities take precedent if B comes through. Losing out on both opportunities is the wrong way to go, in my opinion. Despite being told by MY company B that I was the top candidate, they went with someone else. I was glad I went ahead and accepted company A's offer.
What I did in the meantime was push my start date out with company A to hear back from company B in three weeks instead of 2.
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Accept A, put your start date out just a bit more than 2 weeks. Tell B, you have offer in hand, do not disclose details of deal or your preference. If B comes thru you can accept it and acceptably recind the A offer as long as you have not started. Not taking an offer is slightly toasting the bridge before starting. A is likely to sense what is going on and may up the anti. You need to put a deadline on B and make them stick to it. For B employer seems you are the second pony in the race. Old adage one in the hand (sure thing) is worth two in the bush (which is not a sure thing) .
And to piggyback just know this happens all the time in the real world so you don’t have to feel bad. I had an A/B situation a few years back where a friend had also referred me to A. Accepted A, eventually got a better offer from B and I knew A wouldn’t match as I was already at the top of their salary bracket. I simply told A hey I’m sorry I got an offer for 35% more and I can’t turn that kind of money down, any human being will totally understand that. Ended up working at B for 4 years and switched over to A for a much more senior role later when I moved on from B
I had to quit a job after 5 weeks because I got an offer at a job a friend referred me too, 30% raise, spectacular benefits. I went in and told my boss that I was very sorry but I had to quit, he wanted to counter but couldn’t beat my offer. I finished out my two weeks, they took me out to lunch, had no hard feelings. It was thought it was embarrassing but it was what was best for me and my family.
well that's story book! actually went back to A. Cool
As a hiring manager who’s seen this a few times, I can tell you it is super annoying. When a candidate accepts an offer typically all hiring on the position gets stopped. Other candidates are told to move on. Starting up again in a month or so often means starting from scratch, which can lead to losing the position entirely. People forget eventually but it doesn’t leave a very positive impression. I think the correct answer is to tell A that they’re just going to need to wait a few days because you have another offer incoming and B that they need to expedite pronto.
I understand what you are saying but this approach only benefits the company and not the individual and this is about the best course of action for the individual
Exactly. Fuck the company. We are seeing big corp's true colors in real time with all of these layoffs and shitty severance packages. The days of playing nice are over. I'm doing what's best for me. OP, accept A. Wait to see if B comes in. If it does, take it and don't look back. You better believe A would do the same thing to you.
I work in healthcare recruiting and I 100% agree with this. Is it annoying from our side? Yeah, but these are people that need to do what's best for them, their life, their family, ect., not what's best for a company. This is why hiring managers keep a secondary candidate "on hold" (not call right away with rejection notice) until your primary candidate makes their decision. Also in situations like this is always okay to email and say you're waiting on another offer, deadlines can usually be pushed a bit.
Yeah like you said though you are a hiring manager. If you are a good worker and a hard worker normally what drives you getting hired is internal connections at companies (for example me getting hired is based off other engineers knowing I’m a good engineer) not the hiring manager being annoyed I rescinded acceptance of a job. If I annoy you I don’t mind in the slightest, any normal employee at a company understands money is money and no human being can honestly expect someone else not to take a 38+25=63% raise in OP’s case. I’m not in the boat as some of the others with the whole “you owe these companies nothing” or “they would fire you without notice so why should you give them any respect” sort of thing. But being loyal to the employer and losing out on life changing money is stupid and if I hired someone that did that I would think they are an idiot
Yeah, I understand. Thinking back through the times when recruiting suggested giving somebody a deadline though, if I was told they had another offer coming it would’ve been pushed. The only exception is if I were about to lose the position. So I think it might be worth it to the employee to just ask the question and negotiate a bit. Reference checks should take all of a day or two. The advantage is this might get the other company to move faster. Most companies are not going to behave super unreasonably.
What this person said. I’d even be tempted to say take A whilst waiting on B, and B comes through leave A (assuming employment at will - no written contract)
Yeah people forget, you can leave a job at will. There is no loyalty needed since they have none for you! Although they might not consider you in the future but hey you can do the same for them if they shame you for it. Life is a two way street!
Job interviews really are like a logic puzzle sometimes.
Don't tell Company B anything. They might just say, "okay, bye." Just wait.
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agreed, but to a degree, it seems like there is a psychological "objection" (on the part of the potential offeror) to appearing like you are "rushing" or "more certain" because the applicant has another offer--causing the opposite reaction (decision NOT to offer).
To each their own, but this is exactly what I would do.
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Tell company B that you got another offer and if they intend on making an offer that you'd appreciate if they expedited
I did this today. I’m at the same stage with a few companies and my first offer came in today. It’s a good offer and it’s my 2nd choice job/company. I emailed my first choice job/company and told them I’d received an offer, they’re still my preference and that if I’m still under consideration the drop dead on my offer is Thursday, so I need to know by then to consider them. I’m not passing up a 35k increase because my preferred employer isn’t moving as quickly as they said they would. I don’t expect their offer to be any more, just a better fit culturally.
also take job a and just quit once you hear back from job b,
Bad advice. Very bad.
you do you, but if job A gives me a deadline and job B hasn't replied I will accept job A and quit if I get a better offer from job B. I will look out for myself first. a company will lay you off without hesitation if it benefits them. ask me how I know.
The issue with accepting and then dropping is that a friend referred them for job A, so they put them at risk of looking bad if they drop the accepted offer. Normally I’d agree with you, but burning a good connection can be catastrophic depending on your industry and circle.
I work in banking and I’ve sent out dozens of referrals. It’s very common for people to accept an offer, then back out a week or two or even a month or two in because they received a better offer elsewhere. None of my bosses have seen that and said anything other than they hope that person is happy and the new role works out to be a better fit. $35k+bonus is a valid and understandable reason. Employers wanna play hard ball and ask for an immediate answer, give the answer based on the info you have right now. If information changes, adjust accordingly and apologize profusely. Normally genuine apologies are enough to not burn a bridge, and put off the feeling of I’ll will.
You're free to elaborate on *why* it's bad advice. Nobody here will take you at face value.
I'm gonna guess you're naive and young. This is the correct advice, please take it or forever sell your soul.
No. I am actually an experienced professional. You, like a lot of people in this sub, are definitely not.
Loyalty doesn't pay. In the majority of industries you will be given low wage increases and shepherded out even putting in decades of work. It is common for folks even referred folks to join then quit in the first month if it isn't a good fit. Not sure why you think this is bad advice.
My man, a company would not think twice to drop you if someone else came in to offer the same work for half the pay. So you should have the same approach if you get offered somewhere with double the pay. Companies will always look out for themselves. You have to look out for yourself too. If he plans on working at company A in the future, then yeah he needs to go about this differently to avoid burning bridges. If he doesn’t plan on it, then who cares? I’m not taking a 35% cut just because “I’m loyal” lol. Especially to a company he only has talked with for like a few weeks.
Accept Company A, try to push start date out as far as possible. Hope company B can give you a decision by the start date
yup, you owe these companies NOTHING. take the offer and renege if you get the other offer. otherwise you got yourself a good job and can continue looking for an even better one
Right - Is your friend going to pay the difference in salary? Accept A to escape the job you're in - later, accept B if they make the offer.
And if B gives an offer even after you start at A, then quit A.
Took too long to find logic here
Accept company A and hope that company B gives an offer
Right, accept but negotiate a later start date, you *can* do that.
No it’s such a bad look to drop right after being hired and you’ll burn a bridge with that company. Tell the first company you need more time to make the decision and see how they respond. Ask for 2-3 more days at least and hold out for the other company. You can also tell company B you have an existing offer which will get them moving a little bit
Important note here - we don't know who these companies are or in what industry. If company "A" is the largest employer in the industry and just an absolute juggernaut then yes, you should be careful to not burn a bridge as it might come back to haunt you years down the road. On the other if company "A" is just one more company in an industry with hundreds or thousands of possible employers then burning a bridge with them to get $35,000 more is not a dumb risk at all.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. If this is a referral, he’s better off being honest and upfront.
Accept the first offer and then politely rescind it if company B gets back to you. You don’t want to lose an opportunity to leave your current company and no one can argue with a better offer if that’s what ends up happening.
A friend from my network referred me to Company A, which makes me more hesitant to do that. I know it's probably the most logical thing to do, but makes me feel like shit.
Unfortunately burning bridges is sometimes inevitable. My assumption is they probably won't start you for at least a week; if company B sends you a better offer, you could rescind and just say you received a $35,000 increased offer the next day. (even if it's a few days out) They can't really argue that you're just doing what is in your best interest. It would be pretty *shitty of them* to be upset that you are taking an offer that's significantly better than theirs. Really early in my career I had a similar situation happen. I applied for a job and accepted and when I turned around to put in my two week notice, my boss countered with a 50% increase, which was well over what the job offered. It felt crappy, but I was upfront and they understood. (The job I accepted was about 25% more than I was making before the counter)
50% increase is wild! How long did you stay after?
Yeah; it was my first 'big boy' job out of college, so one of those "take whatever you can get situations." I didn't really have experience and even at the time I knew I was pretty underpaid. (hence why I started looking after about 2-3 yrs) Fast forward and I'm still here 12 yrs later in a very senior position.
This is exactly why being upfront with a company can benefit you not only now, but in the long run. If they want you, they'll give a better offer. If they simply can't, you're only benefiting yourself by taking a more lucrative opportunity.
35k is a large enough number that I’m willing to put my morals aside. I’ll feel bad about doing that for maybe 10 minutes.
I’d feel bad for about 5 seconds until I realize that means I can buy a boat this year. And a classic muscle car next year. Save for my kids college in 2 years.
Whew… glad there are people scummier than me.
If they're really a friend, they'll understand. If they don't, then they weren't a friend worth having.
$35K more is nothing to sneeze at.
Then it may be time for you to have 6 months to live or move to a foreign country.
If your friend doesn't understand you left for a substantial increase in pay he's not really a friend
Is your friend getting your paycheck or paying your bills? Your friend is irrelevant and you need to make decisions solely on your best interest.
That does make it harder for you. I’d still accept it but I get it if you don’t want to burn that bridge.
The fact that Company A's offer has a one day time bomb should make you feel less bad about the popular option, even if you were a referral. Maybe your friend doesn't get the bonus, but most companies won't hurt someone over a referral that didn't work out. Also that's a 55k-68K difference in compensation, in the first year alone. Assuming no annual raise, in two years that's $110-136k. So I say take the "feel kinda bad" route. If you feel extra bad (which you shouldn't at all), take your referral out to dinner or something as a "thanks and sorry".
It wasn’t a one-day time bomb, OP got the offer a week ago.
This comment got over a 100 upvotes and started out just plain wrong, "The fact that...." NO that's not the fact. People can't fucking read man lol
My brother in Christ it is 2023: You don’t actually need facts to make statements of fact.
INFO: did they give a reason as to why they needed a response with 1 day? It’s uncomfortable for sure for them to try and rush you on this.
They didn't because they made the offer last week. OP just didn't ask until today
Oh doy, I should have read it in more detail. Sorry and thanks for pointing it out
It's kinda worded in a way that unless you really pay attention it's easy to miss - I def did the first time lol
Accept A, play nice, if B offers, ghost A
2nd. Minus the ghost part just tell them you received anouther offer which was substantially more. Can help the next guy
Always reference the family. “Unfortunately, I got an offer for substantially more and while I want to work with you. Long term I feel compelled to think about the impact on my family”
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Don’t ghost them. But you’re not breaking any rules by changing your mind, or taking a better offer.
3rd. This is the way. Accept the role. Wait for the other offer and say “another offer came in that I didn’t think I would get, so I am going with them.” Be aware though that you will burn the bridge of your referee unless you two are like grade-school tight.
You don’t ghost companies for no reason. Depending on the industry, there are probably people at A that know B and vice versa. Even if that’s not the case, why make an ass of yourself for no reason? Accept offer A and wait it out. If you get offered B, be professional end tell A that you got a substantially better offer that you can’t turn down.
This is the only correct answer
This is the exact wrong answer like half of the ones in this sub. I assume most of posters like you have never held a professional job or are 22 with no clue.
I'm 36 and have been working since 18, at a variety of jobs including one in management. You haven't bothered to explain what you even mean, but go off, I guess.
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No need to ghost lol
exactly this.
Right? Seems simple enough!
Does company A have a probation period? You can join and then leave if u get the other job
I know this is an option but I dunno, something about that feels icky.
Company A wouldn’t think twice about rescinding your offer if they had to for whatever reason. Accept A, wait for B, then drop A.
Do you know what At-Will is as in the context of this situation? Heres a bit of a knowledge drop regarding corporate American jobs from google search: At-will means that an employer can terminate an employee at any time for any reason, except an illegal one, or for no reason without incurring legal liability. Likewise, an employee is free to leave a job at any time for any or no reason with no adverse legal consequences.
The sad thing is that if the situation were reversed, the company would just lay your off.
Well ur a better person than i am
Job A in the hand is worth more than Job B in the bush. You can always quit or do both jobs. You can't always accept once they move on.
Seems obvious to me. Accept job A, then if job B comes through just quit job A. If they want a good reason just say "I was offered a huge pay bump to move." They will understand.
Why does company a need to know today? Can you tell them something came up and you'll give them an answer by the end of the week or something like that? I don't like pressure tactics.
I already asked for an extension - they are looking to fill the role quickly
I wouldn't rely on the person doing the interviews seeming eager to hire you based on a lot of factors. The person checking references might just be a friendly, enthusiastic person. Or the person making those calls might be eager to hire you, but other people involved in the decision might veto that in favor of another candidate. They might really want to hire you, but something changes and they decide to promote from within or to just not hire anyone at the moment. Until an offer is made, so many things can change that you can't predict. So consider offer A as if it is your only offer. If you then get the offer from B, consider it, understanding that it might be awkward to turn down A, but ultimately, business is business.
By Today = Yesterday By end of day, today = today
Accurate.
Depending on how close the friend is from your network, you can tell them your dilemma and see if it would harm them if you accept/wait/decline. In the days of companies rescinding offers, I wouldn't feel to badly about accept/wait/decline. 40k is a big difference. Likely your friend will understand. Perhaps not if they work there
Take the first offer dude. If the other responds, quit and move to it. Life moves too quick to wait for that imo
I would accept company A then wait for company B to get there stuff together. If and when company B gives you the job, tell company A sorry but circumstances have changed and you can’t take the job.
Accept A and. If B comes around take that, look out for yourself
I gave your question to ChatGPT, here is its response: It's understandable to feel pressured when faced with a decision like this, but it's important to approach it logically and strategically. Here are some things to consider: Timeline: Determine how long you think it will take for Company B to make a decision. If it's likely to take too long, you may need to consider accepting Company A's offer. Preferences: Consider which company you would prefer to work for in the long-term, and which job aligns better with your career goals. Compensation: Look at the overall compensation packages for both offers, including salary, bonus, benefits, and any other perks that are important to you. Risk: Think about the level of risk you're willing to take. If you turn down Company A's offer and Company B doesn't come through, are you comfortable with the possibility of being unemployed? Negotiation: If you do decide to accept Company A's offer, you can still negotiate for better compensation or benefits, such as a higher salary, more vacation time, or a flexible work schedule. Based on these factors, here are some possible options: Option 1: Accept Company A's offer and negotiate for better compensation or benefits. This may be the best option if you're concerned about the timeline or risk of waiting for Company B's decision. Option 2: Decline Company A's offer and wait for Company B's decision. This may be the best option if you're confident that Company B will make an offer and you're willing to take the risk. Option 3: Contact Company B and let them know about Company A's offer. This may prompt them to make a quicker decision or to offer better compensation to entice you to choose them over Company A. Ultimately, the decision is yours and it depends on your personal priorities and risk tolerance. Just be sure to consider all factors before making a final decision.
Always accept the offer. If you get an offer from B you can always pull out. Absolutely NEVER hold out thinking you'll get one because that'll be the time you don't and you won't have any offers.
You should tell the other company about the offer. You should have told them as soon as it was made so they would have a chance to accelerate. Most will when it's competitive. But you also don't hold out hope for an offer that's maybe never to come or might be much less than you expected. But congrats!
About the fact that a friend referred you: this is nice when it happens. However, I don’t think your friend would lose sleep if you didn’t get the offer. Your only obligation is to conduct yourself in a business-like manner and look after your own interests.
If a company is checking references that usually means you got the job. Most companies don’t check references unless they’re ready to make an offer. However… accept job A. And if Jon B offer shows up, you let A know what happened. They will be understanding, or will attempt to match the offer. In most cases you won’t go from 95 to 130k. Did you negotiate on that 95k at all? Maybe that can buy you some more time another day or so?
I am an HR Director and I give my candidates at least 4 days to decide on an offer. One day is not reasonable in my opinion even if you were referred by a friend. I wonder why companies don't give employees the time to think about the offer. Why are they trying to rush it? I have had it happen to me too and I am SO glad I did not take the role. Red Flag in my opinion. I agree with some of the other posters, accept Job A and negotiate on the start date to buy some time to give Job B the chance to catch up. Then if Job B falls through you still are getting out of a job you hate. One other tip, always keep looking even if you are happy.
I was in this same boat last year. The urgency sends up red flags and I declined. I stuck it out and got the higher paying wage.
Accept A and wait for B. Tell your reference how much more you’ll make at B. Everyone understands money. If reference is still mad, that person isn't a good reference and isn't very bright. They just got mad at their new reference to a $130k with 15-20% bonus structure company.
Take A then if you get B just tell them you’re not taking it.
Give your acceptance for company A then wait for company B's response. If the response is positive, tell company A you changed your decision. Meanwhile, you can also use this to your advantage. Tell company B you have an offer at hand to speed up their decision. Tell company A you have an offer at hand offering you a higher pay to renegotiate salary/terms if you're willing to. Make sure to push the start date as far as possible for company A.
Accept A. If you get an offer from B, take it. You have to remember these companies will get rid of you without a second thought. Getting a replacement is no problem. Would they hesitate to lay you off or get rid of you? Probably not. Take what’s best for you and your family. My wife was in the same predicament. Accepted job A but then offered B. Went with B.
Agree with everyone here. Take the job A and don't say anything to B because it looks like blackmail and might backfire Very few companies are loyal to employees. Plus it seems like for every three job offers you make to potential employees two never respond and one shows up
Unless you have a job right not that you are happy with, accept offer A. You won’t have started by the time company B offers.
Tell company A you need to put in your 2 weeks and you need a extra 2 days for a "emergency" or appointment. That will buy you enough time to hear from company b. Then tell company b or a you got another offer and pit them against each other. Only think about yourself. Remember, they would lay you off withought a moments notice. You need to move accordingly. If they try to guilt trip you, don't fall for it. Tell them you're a supporter of capitalism or something cliche. You could also take job a and just quit when b comes through. You owe nothing to anyone. You're the prize, not the other way around.
Tell company B you have an offer you are considering. Tell company A you need until the end of the week.
Still do the suggestion of dropping A if company B offers. I'm sure they will understand and it can't possibly be the first time it has happened that a candidate doesn't choose to further their career at their company.
Ask the person who referred you if they think A would react if you asked for more time. You could tell A you have a 130k offer that you have to look at seriously before accepting with A - you can indicate A as a serious first option and ask for 3-7 days whatever you think you need. A 40k Bump is unlikely after one year so it feels like B is already a step up. The only risk here is if A decides to rescind the offer and then B doesn’t offer but … if A is less money and recinds after you make a reasonable request did you really want to work there?
Play it smart and earn a few bucks on a check if you hear back from company B. I've done it before, and although it burns a bridge, at the end of the day, you do what's right for you.
If possible, try to extend the timeline for company A. Did you tell company B that you have an exploding offer so they need to expedite your process? If they want you they will try to make the timing work.
Uhhh literally figure out what you want to do
Don't rush yourself. They need you! If they are that demanding, they don't sound like a great employer.
Tell company A yes and quit if company B ends up offering you the job.
In my opinion, its all business so you don’t have to feel too bad with your friend referring you.
Accept and quit if you get B. This is a no brainer imo
accept offer A and if offer B comes in better, quit A. you don’t owe them any loyalty.
Do you think it's easy to get opportunities similar to company A for you? If yes, I think drop the A one doesn't matter
I agree with the majority. Accept A. If B comes with an offer, fantastic! Drop A and go with B. Your friend will understand, and if not, they don't have your best interests at heart.
What you do is simple, accept the first offer and wait to hear from your preferred company. If they also give you an offer you tell the first company that circumstances have changed and that you can no longer accept the offer. They don’t need to know specifics. This might seem like a scummy move but if it were reversed these companies would not hesitate to burn you every chance they get. No reason to pass up a sure thing waiting on the better offer, but also no reason not to take the better pay if you get it.
You say Yes to A now.
Take both
Take A, drop it if B comes through. You just say a much better opportunity came up, you apologize for the inconvenience, and go to B. You have to look out for number 1, and that's you.
Accept the offer you have in hand, and drop it when you get an offer form company B. Company A will understand, and if they don’t, it’s not your problem.
Just say yes to A and fuckin bounce if you get offer B. What’s even the question?
Accept the job right away. If the higher salary goes through, take that one . Even with your edit, the salary difference is just too high to not do it. It kinda sucks and I get the hesitation, but at the end of the day you have to do what's best for you. That's a significant difference in lifestyle
As others have said: Take the job at "A"....if "B" offers you the job - take it. "A" would have no qualms firing you so have no bad feelings about working for "A" then going to "B"
Simple. Tell A yes. If B comes back to you a week later with an offer, take it and tell A to kick rocks This ain’t rocket surgery, people
Depends on the field of work to be honest, but some of those jobs out there are pretty good ones right now. That is a pretty nice difference in pay too. I'd talk to company B before you give Company A a decision. In my personal experience, asking for a contingent offer is usually a good idea. IE: Company B gives you an expedited offer contingent on their criteria. If they are willing to do that then look over their criteria and if you meet it then you should be good to go. Let company B know that you have received an offer from another company and you would like to negotiate, or refuse their offer. Who knows, you might get a higher pay rate from company A.
I had a company put pressure on me to make a decision. It’s could be an indicator that they know you will find a better offer and what to put pressure. It could also mean they just need an employee desperately or want to move on too someone else if it’s not you. Generally speaking I would assume that most the time company A would be not a good place to work
I applied for this one job in my company and the hiring manager set up a call and said I didn't get it but should apply for another one of her positions that would be opening. I did, had the interviews in which one of the guys on the panel seemed to like me because he remembered me from the first one. I thought I was going to get this position and slacked off at my current job and put off applying to jobs outside my company. I guess my point is, don't buy into the hype and make bad decisions because of it.
What I should have done when I was in this position, take up the first job offer, then when the references go through, take the second job offer and quit the first
Just say you’ll accept A!! And once you get B tell A you’ll no longer be joining them after all. Have you received an offer from B? Because from my experience reference checks are done after they give you an offer. But if they’re checking yours before making an offer that’s also a good sign. I wouldn’t put pressure on them to hurry up or they’ll tell you to fuck off…that happened to me. I think best thing to do is accept A and push start date 3-4 weeks out and hopefully by then you’ll know about B. If you get B and you clear that background check and are set up for onboarding….all you need to do is email A and tell them you’ll no longer be able to take the position
Be up front about having an offer needing a response. If Company B really wants to hire you and not lose you to Company A, they will do what is necessary to get you a response. Even if it’s a rejection for putting pressure on them. There’s no reason to hold back on this with potential employers. Also inform Company A that you have a pending offer from Company B. You can sometimes work out an extension. But you really should give Company B a heads up that if they don’t respond by a reasonable amount of time, you will have to accept the other offer.
Accept it, and once company b approves rescind
Fuck Company A.
Accept both. Work for both.
Wait until you have the offer letter in your hand before dropping comp A.
Tell A about B, and ask for a decision by X day. This will actually increase your cache. Tell B you accept, but you need to run such a momentous decision by your family before you start this next chapter in your life blabla pomp circumstance, and say you will make a decision by X+3. Don't ask, say. They might say they can't but they're almost certainly lying to jam you. The top candidate is still the top candidate a week later. It's hard but just do it. If things hit the fan just accept A, then say you got an offer you can't refuse if you get B. It's worth avoiding stiffing your network, but it's the right choice if you have no other way around it.
Accept company A's offer with 2 weeks notice to your current position. If company B comes in with a higher offer, take it and tell company A that you will not be starting with them.
It’s probably too late but I’d accept company A and wait for company B. If company B comes back with an offer, then let company A know your circumstances changed. You owe no loyalty to anyone, especially a company that hasn’t given you a job offer. If you have to eventually walk away from company A, a few days isn’t going to make a huge difference. They already have others they interviewed and likely backup candidates so they can just offer their second or third choice the job.
Always! Take Company A and drop them when if/when Company B comes around. The old adage applies..... a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.......
wish I saw this earlier. in the same position (with internships) and I already rejected company A's offer, praying on company B's acceptance. Is it too late to let company B I have (had) another offer?
What type of jobs are these? Just curious
Bird in hand is worth …..
Your friend is great for referring you, but a 45k increase in pay is worth leaving over. If you want you could go to company A after they hire you with company B offer and see if they can match or increase their offer. The point is, a job is about providing for you and yours, not making your friend look good.
They gave you a week to decide? I'm in senior positions and all my offer letters have been one full day to decide.
take the company A offer, if company B offer comes through, take company B and drop company A. It happens often, especially recently its more common, don't feel badly you owe them nothing. Honestly I hate it when companies give you a few days to make a decision, one company gave me 2 days to decided and the hiring manager kept calling me 10 times! I rejected the job out of spite, I needed time to think FFS! good companies usually give you at least an entire week to decide on an offer. heck with my current job I took 2 weeks negotiating and asking questions back and forth until I accepted.
How badly do you need a new job? Are you working now? Have you countered A? That could be the answer they get EOD.
The key here is that you are in a job you hate, and you have a job offer in hand. The offer in hand is through a friend so you have some idea what the new work culture is like. Company B could be more pay but it has an unknown culture. Also they may not give you the job. As company A needs to know today, I would contact company B and say that you need to know today. If nothing from Company B by end of day, then I would except company A and go and work with my friend.
How long have you been keeping company A waiting for a response? It's typical for companies to give a week or so and if they insist you take it immediately I take that as a red flag. I would potentially ask them for an extension
These the kinda problems I want in my life
But it’s so wrong if a company lets highly paid employees go to hire people who will do more for the same pay or work for less. Bunch of hypocritical assholes giving advice here.
Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Take the jib get some more experience then apply at the preferred company when you feel the time is right.
HAve you negotiated you salary, bonuses, vacation days, WFH days etc with A? If not I would do that and buy yourself some more time.
130>90 wait for B
I’ll get lambasted for this seemingly unpopular opinion I’m sure, but: Both companies have invested solid time and resources into interviewing you, as well as losing out on other candidates/those candidates having lost out on a the opportunities offered, in a very tough job market. Company A has pretty reasonably given you a week to make a decision also. Frankly, you already know what you’re going to do OP. You already know it’s a sh!tty thing to do to company A, and you/we know you’re just here to crowdsource a rationalization for it with confirmation bias. In before the angry *“Those” companies don’t give a sh!t about you* mob… Unless I’m missing it, OP gave no insight into what companies these are. I have no idea if they’re a small startup that will suffer from a drop-out, or otherwise.
What would happen if you accept the job and then quit for the better offer if it comes through. That seems like to most "business like" solution. Employees need to act like a business would act. Tech companies are doing mass lay off right now for media likes, you should all show the same loyalty. Stop trying to be good dogs, when you are running from wolves.
Press B to give you a response faster and press A to give you more incentive. However this takes very delicate negotiation skills and it could risk you losing both, so if you’re unsure about it then I’d suggest just go with A. But keep records of B’s offer for raise negotiations with A in the future.
What kind of job is this?
Try to negotiate further with A. "I'd like to accept your offer, but it's less than I was expecting, is there any room for negotiating components? If you can't move on the salary, perhaps bonuses, time off, benefits or roadmap for salary increase?" Should get you another day for negotiation at least. If they end up playing hardball, that's a good indicator they're going to be like that after you're hired too.
Accept Job A. Tell Job B you have a pending offer (no need to provide details) and to give you a response by X dare. If Job B gives you offer and is better than Job A, accept Job B and rescind Job A. (You’ll be burning a bridge with Job A) Good luck!
I had this same exact situation once. I held off for company B. After I accepted the offer from company B after turning down company A , company A came back around and asked if I was still available and wanted the job. It’s all made up. Also, do you really kick off a job that has pressured you into accepting for less pay than you think you’re worth?
I wanna be 20 yrs old making 130,000 😔
Tell A you need a week. Tell B you have an acceptable offer in hand and need a decision by X. Absolutely don't accept A and then drop them for B if they come through. Setting money aside for a bit, which job would you rather have?
any company pressuring you does it because they know their offer sucks. tell them they need to do better, if they press give them a number. also, say nothing because they will use anything you do say against you. keep them guessing, psychologically it will drive them mad! also, eff these low ball orgs!
I wouldn’t risk putting a deadline on B, might just piss them off. Just take A, if B comes through, just quit and go to B, if it doesn’t, at least you got something. I wouldn’t risk telling B you have an offer on hand either, they might choose another candidate that is more fully “committed” and might see you as someone that could quit since you have “other offers”, they don’t know if it’s higher or lower.
Stay at your current job until company B has offered you a position. Decline company A
You should have told option B you had an offer last week and use that to make them move faster. If they were truly considering you it would have caused them to expedite their process. You managed this poorly, imo.
Ask your friend at company A what to do.
"I don't want to make anybody mad." You're not a little kid anymore, you can't please everybody. Changing your mind is not illegal and you won't go to prison.
Accept the 1st if you get the other offer go back to original and have them match or you decline the offer.
Do you currently have a job? Is A better than your current job?
Friend or not, nope, it does not.make a difference. You take care of you period. You're the only one in charge of your income, no other factors count, because your friend or that company is not going to put themselves in an uncomfortable position for you and back your play, ever. Take the offer, when B comes through tell them, then go. You owe them nothing.
Contact Company B. Let them know the situation. If they aren't prepared to offer you a position, accept Company A. You can try to push the deadline for Company A. But they may not want to. Then you have to choose. To me: A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. I'd be leery of the advice to Accept A and hope for B later. Depending on the industry, these communities can be pretty small and burning bridges like that might bite you in the long run. \[Edited\] Although at least some in this thread have evidence that it might not "bite" you in the in end.
Take the offer. If the other company gives you an offer then tell them that unfortunately another job countered at a ridiculous amount when you told them you took the first job in order to try not to burn bridges if you eventually want to work there.
Drop A. Unless your references completely torpedo you, or you've got something that fails the background check, you've got the job with B. It pays $35,000 per year more.
I had a company tell me I had 3 days to give a response, I just emailed the recruiter and said it was a big decision and asked for more time to decide. They were happy to accommodate. No garauntees this will happen for you but worst they can say is no :/
It means nothing that you got referred by a friend for job A. Your best option is to accept job A and if job B gives you an offer tell job A you were not expecting to get job B but it’s too good of an opportunity to pass and leave job A unless they can beat the offer
I had a similar situation at the end of 2023. I ended up taking option A wait for B to send me a offer. Well option B never got back with me on a offer or anything. If I would have waited I would've been out both opportunities.
I was just in this EXACT situation. I would accept A's offer. By telling B that you had another offer, that should have lit a fire under them if you were their top candidate. When/If B offers you the job, you could go to the accepted offer, A, and explain this to them and see how they would like to react. Your friend should understand that better pay and opportunities take precedent if B comes through. Losing out on both opportunities is the wrong way to go, in my opinion. Despite being told by MY company B that I was the top candidate, they went with someone else. I was glad I went ahead and accepted company A's offer. What I did in the meantime was push my start date out with company A to hear back from company B in three weeks instead of 2.
Accept both, outsource some of each to a lovely Indian man called Anuup whom you will pay well
Accept A and if B pans out, drop A. It's not cool, but A's "now or not at all" pressure created the situation for that to happen to them.
So what did you do?