The other guy that was with the guy in the picture was the absolute worst. Revving his engine loud as fuck constantly. I was eating dinner outside and these dorks came by at least five times in less than 20 minutes.
I also saw two 4-wheelers blowing through red lights at like 60mph completely wreck and flip through the air at 19th and main.
There are a couple guys who do that down in city market. But they have cars. And they always do it RIGHT next to patios full of people. One time, I swear I thought my eardrums were gonna blow. Windows shaking, plates rattling, babies and kids crying. Like, shit should be illegal it's so loud.
How are so many grown ass men so excited about loud noises? Don't most people grow out of that phase by like... 11?
It actually is illegal. It falls under peace disturbance or noise pollution. There are allowable decibel levels (60dba) during day time hours (7am-10pm).
Take a photo of their license plate, call the non-emergency police line and report them.
Yes, I do own a decibel meter, it’s called an iPhone. The police absolutely have decibel meters. Yes, I would report that people are breaking the sound ordinance. It’s a law. It’s pretty simple.
Unfortunately, I can tell you from experience that KCPD isn't showing up to a noise complaint in a timely manner. Especially for a noise complaint while the sun is up. The best thing that might happen in a situation like this is that they show up when they show up and get your details and document that they were there. If the parties making noise happen to still be in the area they may flag them down and issue them a warning but that's honestly the extent of it.
Ok. What's the next step? Take a screenshot of the reading? And video the biker? Go file a police report? I'm sure KCPD would stop the drug and murder investigations and chase down a biker.
I, too, am against loud bikes, trucks, and cars. Well, hello KC, it's the fookn city. If you want quiet, move to the country.
I find those protestors ruin my daily coffee on the sidewalk. You know, the people without jobs that run around the city jaw jacking all that nonsense. Maybe I need a decimal meter to measure them.
Proximity matters. The standard dishwasher today are around 50dba. That’s 50dba at 3 ft distance. Every doubling of distance reduces sound level by 6 dba.
Especially since lots of people (myself included) already have tinnitus or other hearing/sensory issues. Like, try to have even the slightest bit of respect for others.
I understand emergency vehicles needing to be loud, but there’s no legitimate reason for anyone else to be that way and there should be strict limits on it.
We seem to have a large segment of the population who are only technically adults. And they seem to really enjoy disrupting people who are doing actual adult activities like eating on a patio, listening to a band play outside, sitting on the grass at a park, riding a bicycle, and the list goes on. It seems anytime I’m peacefully doing one of these things I can expect an interruption from a loud motorcycle, dirt bike, ATV, pickup truck, Trump parade, Dodge Charger, or some other obnoxious entity. Museums and libraries are almost the only places not subject to interruptions from these childish dirtbags.
It's the same jackasses that shoot off massive fireworks days after the 4th at midnight
Technically it's illegal but never enforced. God forbid people enjoy any moments of quiet
Nope. Not in Shawnee. Shawnee made it legal and they were going off all over our neighborhood. Absolutely effin' nuts. And the people don't follow the rules.
[https://www.cityofshawnee.org/departments/fire/prevention/fireworks](https://www.cityofshawnee.org/departments/fire/prevention/fireworks)
Not allowed - M80s - guess what they were heard a lot. I am nearly deaf but they are loud enough to wake me just from the shock wave.
Not allowed - within 1,000 feet of a school, etc. Guess what there is an elementary school in our neighborhood (Riverview Elementary School). I could point to 5 houses that were shooting them off and all are less than 1,000 ft from the school.
No regard for hours, people (or ex-military) with PTSD, animals, etc.
Live a bit east of the jazz district, very Hispanic area, not sure exactly what the neighborhood would be called but it's all. Fucking. Year. Always random fireworks (or gunshots) no matter what month it is. So ready to get out of here.
Was the other one on a crotch rocket? Had one just absolutely rev as hard as possible as they went by our three yr old. Scared the shit out of her. She cried for about 20mins afterwards.
I’m not sure what it was, but it was one of those that I think has to be illegally modified to sound like it is redlining all the time. Kind of a whiny, high pitched noise instead of a normal engine noise.
People drop hundreds, sometimes thousands on custom exhausts for just the appearance of performance lol
Lots of times the actual increase in HP is negligible. All for show. Bunch of losers imo
Depends on the bike.
My Z900RS can get another ~20 hp from headers and an ECU flash which would be about a 20% increase in power and a reduction in weight from losing the CAT. Pretty solid increase considering it's not a high strung track bike or anything.
Honestly, the reason I haven't done it is because I don't like riding a loud ass bike. I'm not trying to annoy the neighbors or make my tinnitus worse!
Yeah that's a good point. I was thinking a lot about cars but even my Infiniti G37x gets a slight boost in HP off a custom exhaust (bit hypocritical lol but I bought it like that)
Bikes I imagine are a different story. I imagine they can get a lot better performance because they are much lighter
That gang of dirt bikes and four wheelers crack me up. Nothing better to do than pop wheelies all around crossroads hahahaha. I bet they all go back to their clubhouse and jerk each other off by how cool they looked.
What’s funny too is if you watch them they are constantly looking around at the people around them with this, “HEY LOOK AT ME, LOOK WHAT IM DOING” expression, they very much are children seeking attention
IDK if they are smart enough to build a tree house. I'm guessing they occupied an abandoned building on troost somewhere and smoke meth before and after they go out to showboat their "skillz"
This is where we ignore the Democratic Progressives who pushed the “defund the police” movement and we start blaming each party for creating the problem and fight over it instead of holding our elected officials accountable to solve the problem.
State controlled police are a bad idea regardless… and politicians are protected anywhere they go.
They are here to generate revenue with citations and fines, and more importantly, to protect wealth and property. Don't believe it? Watch the coverage of the Super Bowl parade debacle. When the shooting started, the number of of LEOs that sprinted inside Union Station was staggering. Local reporters assumed they thought a shooter was inside. False. All the multi-millionaires (Chiefs players and executives) were inside. The shooters were all outside up the street.
would assume part of the chiefs parade is having officers assigned to the Chiefs and where they are and with everyone scattering its understandable that however many you expect to seek and destroy the criminals vs everyone else running from the scene
Unfortunately, everybody else replying are 100% correct. KCPD is completely ineffective and will not make any attempts to stop this kind of behavior/activity. They’re barely effective at maintaining a proper staff for their emergency dispatch department. Their only oversight is at the state level and they absolutely do not serve the city. The conservative Missouri government does this so they can use their own cities- which are primarily liberal leaning- as talking points on how they claim liberal leadership is unable to control crime in their own cities. Never ending cycle unfortunately and I totally agree that it makes the city look very unappealing.
This is exactly what KCPD wants. I know several people who have been told by officers that there is basically no police presence in most of the city for the majority of the week. That’s like Batman announcing to Gotham that he’s on vacation for the next month- it’s only explicable if it’s an intentional effort on their part. They want the city to be out of control. I assume so we’ll blame Q and beg to approve their ridiculous budgets and let them return to being even less accountable than they are now.
I'll never forget the time I saw a car make an left turn on red in front of a cop who was first in the opposing right turn lane, and never flinched. Like the cop was the one who couldn't go on green because of the car, they had to end up driving behind the people who did it, and nothing.
Kansas city is the only city PD to be run by the state and it's because they can't seem to keep the corruption out of it and haven't done it since the state took over. The city has way more control then you think they just don't want to do it
The state has essentially controlled the KCPD since the Civil War (excluding about 7 years), so it's difficult to state that the city has been unable to keep corruption out of the department. The state is primarily to blame for this fiasco, though the city is not without fault.
I got a survey from Crystal Quade's gubernatorial campaign and said a top issue of mine was local control of the KCPD. I don't know why when we've had so many different governments over the decade we still haven't been able to get that back.
Because we live in a deep red state and the state government is never going to give up that leverage . They rat fuck our city police and then campaign on crime and violence in the same cities blaming liberal KC officials
It's been centuries, and we haven't always had republican majorities. Hell, not even in my lifetime and I'm only 35. Why didn't Jay Nixon, or Bob Holden repeal it? And it was 2013 that StL got back local control. Idk why this isn't a top priority over here on the Missouri side.
Are you new here? Cops don't exist in Kansas City...
(We have quite literally zero police presence unless there's a major event happening, and First Fridays isn't one of those events)
I saw a ton of cops this Friday, and even ones that hit their lights at some dirt bikes but they didnt chase, not sure what the point was, but I would guess policy is not to chase in crowded areas/what this entire reddit seems to be wanting them to do
The purpose of the KCMO police department is not to protect the residents of KC. The state of Missouri directly runs the KC police department more like an occupying paramilitary force than an actual police department.
They aren't. The City has around 2.5 officers per 1k people. That is higher than a host of cities who have lower crime rates. It is also significantly higher than the national average of 1.44 officers per 1k people.
Young people are realizing more and more that being a cop is a shitty job. You work nights, weekends, and holidays. You get paid a low wage while dealing with the worst society has to offer day in and day out. Drug addicts. Drunks. Gangs. Brutal car crash fatalities. The real possibility of something pulling a gun or knife on you. Then you’re expected to act normal.
You might go from a fatal car crash with limbs scattered, to pulling someone over for speeding, and them giving you attitude. And you’re expected to act kind and polite like you werent just picking up body parts from the highway because a person was speeding.
Some people can handle that. But many can’t. Add in people videoing cops and trying to play “gotcha” with them. It’s just not a job most people want anymore. Police aren’t respected. They’re disrespected and laughed at. Made fun of with a camera pointed at them. Told how to do their job by YouTube lawyers. Who would want to do that job?
Every cop I know lives in a nice neighborhood and drives nice vehicles. They get paid plenty and have unlimited overtime or juicy security side jobs to pick from. Compensation is not the problem.
Respect is earned, not automatically given. Why would anyone in KC respect police when they openly admit they don’t even attempt to do their job?
Couple weeks ago, we saw a group of about 5 dudes trying to be cool doing wheelies on dirtbikes on Southwest Blvd. Got to see one of them eat shit even. Good times. I lol'd.
That's a brand new 2024 Honda Shadow, I can tell based on the paint job and the fact there are very few cruiser bikes with shaft drive and spoked wheels. Shadows are beginner bikes. This guy isn't going to make it through the season with his skull intact.
> Shadows are beginner bikes
Not defending the guy in the photo but lol at that statement. I have 17 years and 75k miles on my Shadow. The thing is bulletproof and barely requires any maintenance
Why is KCPD continually short staffed and seemingly uncaring about day to day policing. At some point, the excuses need to stop and drastic changes are warranted.
They just got significant raises, including 30% for new officers. Unfortunately, drastic changes are very hard when the department is run by a five person committee, four members of which are appointed by the governor and the fifth is the mayor.
This isn't even day to day tho, it's first fucking friday . . . a monthly 'event' that is always fkn crowded as hell.
I mean if there's no police here, on the most crowded day of the month in a popu . . .
oh wait. I'll bet you couldn't swing dead cat without hitting a cop on the plaza.
There's your answer.
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I know this probably won’t do much, but here’s where you can report. I work in the Crossroads and see these people most days. It’s annoying as hell and it’s dangerous.
Most annoying thing is, my owners talked to the mayor, and he is aware and frustrated. The state controls the KC police department - something I remember voting against a few years ago, but it passed probably because the wording of it was intentionally sketchy, and if people didn’t already know beforehand to vote no, they would have read it and thought it sounded great. The state wants him to fail in a “liberal” city. For example, they make it so on any given weekend let’s say there are an extra 50 cop cars. They will station 25 in P&L and 25 around the Plaza and Midtown, but they can’t patrol past their assigned small areas, leaving other areas (Crossroads) under-patrolled. KCPD has a lot of money, but it is not being directed to what is needed.
I’m not saying Quinton is perfect, but I know he’s trying, and I know he’s as frustrated as we are!
yeah i saw people on /r/missouri apologizing for having been hoodwinked into accidentally voting for that. the tricksy and false verbiage made them vote against their interests from across the state.
The good news is that question was deemed so misleading that it’s been [ordered for a redo this November](https://www.kcur.org/politics-elections-and-government/2024-04-30/missouri-supreme-court-rules-kcpd-ballot-question-misled-voters-orders-a-redo-election)
Yeah I’m genuinely shocked this redo went through considering the state of things. It’s the result of a lawsuit filed by the city, and it went to the MO supreme court who sided with the city.
I was on Southwest boulevard not too long ago and one of the bike people was doing a wheely and dropped. I think he broke is leg and was crawling to the side of the road. lol
This urban hillbilly stuff makes Kansas City (and other American cities, probably?) look so bad. It always makes me think: “I just don’t need none of that Mad Max bullshit!” But, seriously, these are total trash people.
In this pic, you can also see the tire marks left from all the donuts made by the sideshow fools.
This is my neighborhood and it's all so tiresome. Beyond being just annoying, yes, it's dangerous. I can't help but imagine some asshole losing control and rolling into Farina or Up Down.
I've lived downtown for years. I was standing approximately 50 feet away from a young mother and her toddler when the ATV/dirt bike gang rolled up. They were revving their bikes right next to this baby, and he was absolutely beside himself terrified and screaming. A few of the riders were entertained by this and laughed at the mother. I was walking on 9th street in May and watched 2 dirt bike riders attack an elderly woman in her car. She was obviously confused and alarmed being surrounded by dirt bikes and offroad vehicles and simply stopped in the middle of the street. The riders were pulling up to her open windows and yelling at her and revving their motors. I didn't do anything because I know many of these people are armed.
This is how it is down here now. Takeovers at all hours of the night. You see people driving through red lights all hours of the day. Dirt bikes and ATVs on the sidewalks. And KCPD is absent. Gone.
I remember talking to an officer that came to our neighborhood association meeting (midtown) and he told me one of the challenges is if they pursue the off-road vehicle groups they scatter and run and inevitably cause more damage and problems, or one wrecks and gets seriously injured or dies and the family sues the City. I don’t believe it’s a problem we can police our way out of, just like guns there is basically and endless supply of cheap used Dirt Bikes and ATVs so as long as there is culture that glamorizes this behavior it will persist. It would help if the social media platforms that used for these groups to communicate and organize with would pull down the groups and sites. If they can’t coordinate easily most are too lazy to put any extra effort in.
Weird how none of the areas on the Kansas side or any of the suburbs seem to have this problem. These guys do this because the cops for years have not shown any willingness to do anything about it. I promise if they started running these guys off regularly it would stop.
I guarantee you that’s exactly what would happen if they tried this shit in Overland Park or somewhere like that.
There are so many 4 wheelers and illegal bikes in WyCoKCK. I've seen kids speeding down central every weekend doing wheelies for years. Saw one evade police (they stopped pursuit in a high pedestrian block). They speed, run stop signs, split lanes dangerously, have no signals or lights and are hard to see. I see people riding LAWNMOWERS and mobility scooters on the road during rush hour. (Not to mention that noone uses the sidewalk, what's up with that WyCo?) It's annoying but honestly I'm just concerned for all parties' safety. I've been in a motorbike accident, and a serious highway car crash, it's not great. I have never seen people riding those things in OP that's for sure.
Almost crashed into one of these douchebags on Friday night. He was driving a bike that had no headlight, so he was really hard to see. This is so dangerous. These bikes are not street legal, therefore ILLEGAL
Kansas City cops don’t have to live in the city and they are controlled by the state government. They have no incentive to actually do anything to better this community.
Yep, KCPD ain’t doing shit about this sort of stuff and it bugs me too.
I’m trying to get creative with ways to mess with them that won’t hurt their precious bikes or cause injury.
The banana up the tailpipe is probably not feasible but that’s the area of shenanigans I’m thinking of. Dissuade rather than damage
Catch and release, no charges. Back by 10pm. Doing the same thing. No charges stick. Ask the prosecutors about that.
"Why aren't they solving REAL CRIME" "they aren't hurting anyone" "let them have fun" (the other half of kc Redditors)
On the night the Chiefs won, we saw one of them crash into a car and do a hit-and-run. Whole group of young men on those bikes, just ran off from that exact intersection.
I usually find it fun to watch them do tricks from the second floor of UpDown, but they do need to mind other people.
Here’s an idea…
- Build curb extensions along Southwest Boulevard and 19th Street.
- Raise the crosswalks so that all vehicles are required to slow down to the speed limit.
Right now, ALL of our streets (except P&L) are terribly designed. They’re designed to maximize space for cars, which in turn, encourages faster and more reckless driving.
If every crosswalk was raised, then automobiles and motorcycles will be unable to race down the boulevard. If we had curb extensions, then pedestrians who want to cross would be more visible to cars in the road, and cars will naturally want to slow down when the road is narrowed.
Dirt Bikes (and ATVs) are designed with large diameter wheels and long suspension travel specifically to roll over things like rocks, logs, holes, etc.
A raised crosswalk will affect every driver except the dirt bike & ATV gangs that'll be enjoying their new little urban jumps.
this is nothing. Two bikes? Have you seen the ATV crew? Those guys are a real "nuisance". Have to admit I enjoy it.... even though I admit they are a-holes. I'm not sure this month was the biggest FF turnout. A Few months ago seemed more massive, not just people but more outdoor stuff going on, and had the ATV guys, too.
These atv guys have my 15 year old son hooked he lives inHarrisonville so when he comes to my house and sees that he can’t contain himself always on me about let’s go see if we can find those guys. Or when the street racers go live here he comes running. Dad we have to go were are going to miss it AGAIN!!!!!! I really don’t mind them ya they are loud but it’s entertainment and I haven’t see. Anyone get hurt
Worrying about the cops enforcing a noise ordinance when we have people illegally evicted bc the housing sept doesn’t enforce health code is peak Kcmo vibes. Don’t affect my fun but die over there quietly
Cops at a massive gathering like First Friday are there to keep everyone save and make sure any major incidents get dealt with quickly.
someone speeding and revving their motorcycle just isn’t that big a deal.
Until someone gets hit by a motorcycle or car. The city doesn’t belong to cars, it belongs to pedestrians. People need to feel safe crossing the street.
OP- do you actually live in the city, or did you drive in from the suburbs to feel like you had culture?
Because you just got culture, but it wasn’t what you expected.
Stop judging others for despoiling your special event.
If you only come into town once a month, your sales taxes would probably be better spent in your own neighborhood, instead of whining about the bullshit that goes on around my house every night.
Read the room. Have your own sweet safe lil first Friday in Paola or Lenexa or oak grove.
We’ve got real problems here, and your whinging about shit you see once a month is the greasy crumbs in the bag of chips is my daily.
Get bent.
The other guy that was with the guy in the picture was the absolute worst. Revving his engine loud as fuck constantly. I was eating dinner outside and these dorks came by at least five times in less than 20 minutes. I also saw two 4-wheelers blowing through red lights at like 60mph completely wreck and flip through the air at 19th and main.
There are a couple guys who do that down in city market. But they have cars. And they always do it RIGHT next to patios full of people. One time, I swear I thought my eardrums were gonna blow. Windows shaking, plates rattling, babies and kids crying. Like, shit should be illegal it's so loud. How are so many grown ass men so excited about loud noises? Don't most people grow out of that phase by like... 11?
It actually is illegal. It falls under peace disturbance or noise pollution. There are allowable decibel levels (60dba) during day time hours (7am-10pm). Take a photo of their license plate, call the non-emergency police line and report them.
Do you have a decibel meter? What exactly would you report to the police? That, in your opinion it's to noisy in public area?
Yes, I do own a decibel meter, it’s called an iPhone. The police absolutely have decibel meters. Yes, I would report that people are breaking the sound ordinance. It’s a law. It’s pretty simple.
Unfortunately, I can tell you from experience that KCPD isn't showing up to a noise complaint in a timely manner. Especially for a noise complaint while the sun is up. The best thing that might happen in a situation like this is that they show up when they show up and get your details and document that they were there. If the parties making noise happen to still be in the area they may flag them down and issue them a warning but that's honestly the extent of it.
I understand that completely. But surely if you do nothing, you will get nothing.
I see you know the KCPD motto by heart. :)
You can download decibel meters
Ok. What's the next step? Take a screenshot of the reading? And video the biker? Go file a police report? I'm sure KCPD would stop the drug and murder investigations and chase down a biker. I, too, am against loud bikes, trucks, and cars. Well, hello KC, it's the fookn city. If you want quiet, move to the country. I find those protestors ruin my daily coffee on the sidewalk. You know, the people without jobs that run around the city jaw jacking all that nonsense. Maybe I need a decimal meter to measure them.
A dishwasher is louder than 60db lol
You should get a Bosch; so quiet!
Proximity matters. The standard dishwasher today are around 50dba. That’s 50dba at 3 ft distance. Every doubling of distance reduces sound level by 6 dba.
It is illegal. But not enforced.
Much like the laws against fireworks.
Especially since lots of people (myself included) already have tinnitus or other hearing/sensory issues. Like, try to have even the slightest bit of respect for others. I understand emergency vehicles needing to be loud, but there’s no legitimate reason for anyone else to be that way and there should be strict limits on it.
We seem to have a large segment of the population who are only technically adults. And they seem to really enjoy disrupting people who are doing actual adult activities like eating on a patio, listening to a band play outside, sitting on the grass at a park, riding a bicycle, and the list goes on. It seems anytime I’m peacefully doing one of these things I can expect an interruption from a loud motorcycle, dirt bike, ATV, pickup truck, Trump parade, Dodge Charger, or some other obnoxious entity. Museums and libraries are almost the only places not subject to interruptions from these childish dirtbags.
It's the same jackasses that shoot off massive fireworks days after the 4th at midnight Technically it's illegal but never enforced. God forbid people enjoy any moments of quiet
I think you mean, 1 week plus/minus the 4th. Source: live in Waldo and my pups hate it around the 4th.
Dude you're so right. I was being mighty generous lol I live in the Turner district and it is a fucking warzone!
Same in Shawnee. 🤬
Isn't it straight up illegal on the KS, side? Or at least better enforcement?
Nope. Not in Shawnee. Shawnee made it legal and they were going off all over our neighborhood. Absolutely effin' nuts. And the people don't follow the rules. [https://www.cityofshawnee.org/departments/fire/prevention/fireworks](https://www.cityofshawnee.org/departments/fire/prevention/fireworks) Not allowed - M80s - guess what they were heard a lot. I am nearly deaf but they are loud enough to wake me just from the shock wave. Not allowed - within 1,000 feet of a school, etc. Guess what there is an elementary school in our neighborhood (Riverview Elementary School). I could point to 5 houses that were shooting them off and all are less than 1,000 ft from the school. No regard for hours, people (or ex-military) with PTSD, animals, etc.
Live a bit east of the jazz district, very Hispanic area, not sure exactly what the neighborhood would be called but it's all. Fucking. Year. Always random fireworks (or gunshots) no matter what month it is. So ready to get out of here.
Who gets excited by this behavior? What woman is like “Damn that’s loud, I need to be around that all the time”?
If they make the women deaf, they won't be able to hear how dumb they actually are and will thus win a mate.
Since I have issues with loud noises, it just hurts me. I wish these dicks gave a fuck.
Do you see this douche canoe? This is his idea of a great time.
Was the other one on a crotch rocket? Had one just absolutely rev as hard as possible as they went by our three yr old. Scared the shit out of her. She cried for about 20mins afterwards.
I’m not sure what it was, but it was one of those that I think has to be illegally modified to sound like it is redlining all the time. Kind of a whiny, high pitched noise instead of a normal engine noise.
These two specifically ride together downtown. A timely tensioned strap would do the trick.
>why are people so inconsiderate? why don't these strangers have any concern for my feelings? >we should *kill* them!
I understand what you're saying, but after careful consideration I've decided I'll allow it.
The Kc pitchfork Mafia.
People drop hundreds, sometimes thousands on custom exhausts for just the appearance of performance lol Lots of times the actual increase in HP is negligible. All for show. Bunch of losers imo
Depends on the bike. My Z900RS can get another ~20 hp from headers and an ECU flash which would be about a 20% increase in power and a reduction in weight from losing the CAT. Pretty solid increase considering it's not a high strung track bike or anything. Honestly, the reason I haven't done it is because I don't like riding a loud ass bike. I'm not trying to annoy the neighbors or make my tinnitus worse!
Yeah that's a good point. I was thinking a lot about cars but even my Infiniti G37x gets a slight boost in HP off a custom exhaust (bit hypocritical lol but I bought it like that) Bikes I imagine are a different story. I imagine they can get a lot better performance because they are much lighter
That gang of dirt bikes and four wheelers crack me up. Nothing better to do than pop wheelies all around crossroads hahahaha. I bet they all go back to their clubhouse and jerk each other off by how cool they looked.
What’s funny too is if you watch them they are constantly looking around at the people around them with this, “HEY LOOK AT ME, LOOK WHAT IM DOING” expression, they very much are children seeking attention
You are completely correct.
Clubhouse?? Majority of those are stolen lmao
I like to envision they have a clubhouse with arcade games and meth
They aren't the Hell's Angels or Galloping Goose man... They don't have no fuckin clubhouse.
Are they the wheelie wizards? Ok, ok, we'll call it a crack den
> I like to envision they have a clubhouse with arcade games and meth What about a tree house with bunk beds and a homemade tattoo gun?
IDK if they are smart enough to build a tree house. I'm guessing they occupied an abandoned building on troost somewhere and smoke meth before and after they go out to showboat their "skillz"
The irony, the guys you don't want to fuck with don't do the whole "oh look at me, look how cool I am" shit.
Maybe they’re a Doo-Wop gang?
Look at me! Look at me! Anyone, please acknowledge my existence!!
/r/ImTheMainCharacter/
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And can't be fired by the city, according to the state legislature.
Wait really?
Yep. Gotta love the fucking Republicans
No I fucking well DON'T!! /s
This is where we ignore the Democratic Progressives who pushed the “defund the police” movement and we start blaming each party for creating the problem and fight over it instead of holding our elected officials accountable to solve the problem. State controlled police are a bad idea regardless… and politicians are protected anywhere they go.
Oh my goodness! How much money did the purple-hair kids cut from the police budget? Was it none? I'm pretty sure it was none.
Are you suggesting that the state control of KCPD is related to the protests calling to “defund the police”?
They are here to generate revenue with citations and fines, and more importantly, to protect wealth and property. Don't believe it? Watch the coverage of the Super Bowl parade debacle. When the shooting started, the number of of LEOs that sprinted inside Union Station was staggering. Local reporters assumed they thought a shooter was inside. False. All the multi-millionaires (Chiefs players and executives) were inside. The shooters were all outside up the street.
Yeah I saw that live lmao
would assume part of the chiefs parade is having officers assigned to the Chiefs and where they are and with everyone scattering its understandable that however many you expect to seek and destroy the criminals vs everyone else running from the scene
Unfortunately, everybody else replying are 100% correct. KCPD is completely ineffective and will not make any attempts to stop this kind of behavior/activity. They’re barely effective at maintaining a proper staff for their emergency dispatch department. Their only oversight is at the state level and they absolutely do not serve the city. The conservative Missouri government does this so they can use their own cities- which are primarily liberal leaning- as talking points on how they claim liberal leadership is unable to control crime in their own cities. Never ending cycle unfortunately and I totally agree that it makes the city look very unappealing.
This is exactly what KCPD wants. I know several people who have been told by officers that there is basically no police presence in most of the city for the majority of the week. That’s like Batman announcing to Gotham that he’s on vacation for the next month- it’s only explicable if it’s an intentional effort on their part. They want the city to be out of control. I assume so we’ll blame Q and beg to approve their ridiculous budgets and let them return to being even less accountable than they are now.
I'll never forget the time I saw a car make an left turn on red in front of a cop who was first in the opposing right turn lane, and never flinched. Like the cop was the one who couldn't go on green because of the car, they had to end up driving behind the people who did it, and nothing.
Kansas city is the only city PD to be run by the state and it's because they can't seem to keep the corruption out of it and haven't done it since the state took over. The city has way more control then you think they just don't want to do it
The state has essentially controlled the KCPD since the Civil War (excluding about 7 years), so it's difficult to state that the city has been unable to keep corruption out of the department. The state is primarily to blame for this fiasco, though the city is not without fault.
I got a survey from Crystal Quade's gubernatorial campaign and said a top issue of mine was local control of the KCPD. I don't know why when we've had so many different governments over the decade we still haven't been able to get that back.
Because we live in a deep red state and the state government is never going to give up that leverage . They rat fuck our city police and then campaign on crime and violence in the same cities blaming liberal KC officials
It's been centuries, and we haven't always had republican majorities. Hell, not even in my lifetime and I'm only 35. Why didn't Jay Nixon, or Bob Holden repeal it? And it was 2013 that StL got back local control. Idk why this isn't a top priority over here on the Missouri side.
Are you new here? Cops don't exist in Kansas City... (We have quite literally zero police presence unless there's a major event happening, and First Fridays isn't one of those events)
Or if there’s a speed trap campaign or if Governor Heehaw’s coming to town
Is Cletus why they’re all out driving instead of chilling in QT parking lots today?
I saw a ton of cops this Friday, and even ones that hit their lights at some dirt bikes but they didnt chase, not sure what the point was, but I would guess policy is not to chase in crowded areas/what this entire reddit seems to be wanting them to do
The purpose of the KCMO police department is not to protect the residents of KC. The state of Missouri directly runs the KC police department more like an occupying paramilitary force than an actual police department.
How are they short staffed with their massive budget?
They'll be out in force when we're protesting or fighting for our human rights.
Because the staff and budget are prioritized towards things like the SWAT team at the expense of patrol officers and actual public safety efforts.
They aren't. The City has around 2.5 officers per 1k people. That is higher than a host of cities who have lower crime rates. It is also significantly higher than the national average of 1.44 officers per 1k people.
Because they’ve had more officers retire than they’ve been able to replace in recent years.
Young people are realizing more and more that being a cop is a shitty job. You work nights, weekends, and holidays. You get paid a low wage while dealing with the worst society has to offer day in and day out. Drug addicts. Drunks. Gangs. Brutal car crash fatalities. The real possibility of something pulling a gun or knife on you. Then you’re expected to act normal. You might go from a fatal car crash with limbs scattered, to pulling someone over for speeding, and them giving you attitude. And you’re expected to act kind and polite like you werent just picking up body parts from the highway because a person was speeding. Some people can handle that. But many can’t. Add in people videoing cops and trying to play “gotcha” with them. It’s just not a job most people want anymore. Police aren’t respected. They’re disrespected and laughed at. Made fun of with a camera pointed at them. Told how to do their job by YouTube lawyers. Who would want to do that job?
Every cop I know lives in a nice neighborhood and drives nice vehicles. They get paid plenty and have unlimited overtime or juicy security side jobs to pick from. Compensation is not the problem. Respect is earned, not automatically given. Why would anyone in KC respect police when they openly admit they don’t even attempt to do their job?
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Then give the city a refund if they can’t hire.
Where would you choose to work as a cop? Kc or Lees Summit?
The skin-to-asphalt ratio is high, while IQ....not so much
Couple weeks ago, we saw a group of about 5 dudes trying to be cool doing wheelies on dirtbikes on Southwest Blvd. Got to see one of them eat shit even. Good times. I lol'd.
These jackasses’ skin-to-asphalt ratio isn't high enough until their skin is actually on the pavement, frankly.
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That's a brand new 2024 Honda Shadow, I can tell based on the paint job and the fact there are very few cruiser bikes with shaft drive and spoked wheels. Shadows are beginner bikes. This guy isn't going to make it through the season with his skull intact.
> Shadows are beginner bikes Not defending the guy in the photo but lol at that statement. I have 17 years and 75k miles on my Shadow. The thing is bulletproof and barely requires any maintenance
Why is KCPD continually short staffed and seemingly uncaring about day to day policing. At some point, the excuses need to stop and drastic changes are warranted.
They just got significant raises, including 30% for new officers. Unfortunately, drastic changes are very hard when the department is run by a five person committee, four members of which are appointed by the governor and the fifth is the mayor.
This isn't even day to day tho, it's first fucking friday . . . a monthly 'event' that is always fkn crowded as hell. I mean if there's no police here, on the most crowded day of the month in a popu . . . oh wait. I'll bet you couldn't swing dead cat without hitting a cop on the plaza. There's your answer.
I get it. My point is, if they can't perform day to day policing, special events are certainly going to be ignored.
https://preview.redd.it/f911p97lrbbd1.jpeg?width=589&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=072c3414840f79b3a35c51d81604046ec3053e89 I know this probably won’t do much, but here’s where you can report. I work in the Crossroads and see these people most days. It’s annoying as hell and it’s dangerous. Most annoying thing is, my owners talked to the mayor, and he is aware and frustrated. The state controls the KC police department - something I remember voting against a few years ago, but it passed probably because the wording of it was intentionally sketchy, and if people didn’t already know beforehand to vote no, they would have read it and thought it sounded great. The state wants him to fail in a “liberal” city. For example, they make it so on any given weekend let’s say there are an extra 50 cop cars. They will station 25 in P&L and 25 around the Plaza and Midtown, but they can’t patrol past their assigned small areas, leaving other areas (Crossroads) under-patrolled. KCPD has a lot of money, but it is not being directed to what is needed. I’m not saying Quinton is perfect, but I know he’s trying, and I know he’s as frustrated as we are!
yeah i saw people on /r/missouri apologizing for having been hoodwinked into accidentally voting for that. the tricksy and false verbiage made them vote against their interests from across the state.
The good news is that question was deemed so misleading that it’s been [ordered for a redo this November](https://www.kcur.org/politics-elections-and-government/2024-04-30/missouri-supreme-court-rules-kcpd-ballot-question-misled-voters-orders-a-redo-election)
whaaaaat lol ok cool I didn't know there were ANY rules against abusing ballots as propaganda in this country.
Yeah I’m genuinely shocked this redo went through considering the state of things. It’s the result of a lawsuit filed by the city, and it went to the MO supreme court who sided with the city.
I was on Southwest boulevard not too long ago and one of the bike people was doing a wheely and dropped. I think he broke is leg and was crawling to the side of the road. lol
Damn not even the ATV gang. Kinda surprised it's not even a sport bike.
This urban hillbilly stuff makes Kansas City (and other American cities, probably?) look so bad. It always makes me think: “I just don’t need none of that Mad Max bullshit!” But, seriously, these are total trash people.
In this pic, you can also see the tire marks left from all the donuts made by the sideshow fools. This is my neighborhood and it's all so tiresome. Beyond being just annoying, yes, it's dangerous. I can't help but imagine some asshole losing control and rolling into Farina or Up Down.
This guy is the fucking worst.
I've lived downtown for years. I was standing approximately 50 feet away from a young mother and her toddler when the ATV/dirt bike gang rolled up. They were revving their bikes right next to this baby, and he was absolutely beside himself terrified and screaming. A few of the riders were entertained by this and laughed at the mother. I was walking on 9th street in May and watched 2 dirt bike riders attack an elderly woman in her car. She was obviously confused and alarmed being surrounded by dirt bikes and offroad vehicles and simply stopped in the middle of the street. The riders were pulling up to her open windows and yelling at her and revving their motors. I didn't do anything because I know many of these people are armed. This is how it is down here now. Takeovers at all hours of the night. You see people driving through red lights all hours of the day. Dirt bikes and ATVs on the sidewalks. And KCPD is absent. Gone.
The only way to fix this is to sleuth their identities and call their moms, dads, siblings, and places of employment. Just shame them.
Yeah, they were the worst. They really ruined the vibe. I couldn't hear the live bands over these assholes.
I remember talking to an officer that came to our neighborhood association meeting (midtown) and he told me one of the challenges is if they pursue the off-road vehicle groups they scatter and run and inevitably cause more damage and problems, or one wrecks and gets seriously injured or dies and the family sues the City. I don’t believe it’s a problem we can police our way out of, just like guns there is basically and endless supply of cheap used Dirt Bikes and ATVs so as long as there is culture that glamorizes this behavior it will persist. It would help if the social media platforms that used for these groups to communicate and organize with would pull down the groups and sites. If they can’t coordinate easily most are too lazy to put any extra effort in.
Weird how none of the areas on the Kansas side or any of the suburbs seem to have this problem. These guys do this because the cops for years have not shown any willingness to do anything about it. I promise if they started running these guys off regularly it would stop. I guarantee you that’s exactly what would happen if they tried this shit in Overland Park or somewhere like that.
There are so many 4 wheelers and illegal bikes in WyCoKCK. I've seen kids speeding down central every weekend doing wheelies for years. Saw one evade police (they stopped pursuit in a high pedestrian block). They speed, run stop signs, split lanes dangerously, have no signals or lights and are hard to see. I see people riding LAWNMOWERS and mobility scooters on the road during rush hour. (Not to mention that noone uses the sidewalk, what's up with that WyCo?) It's annoying but honestly I'm just concerned for all parties' safety. I've been in a motorbike accident, and a serious highway car crash, it's not great. I have never seen people riding those things in OP that's for sure.
bless your heart
Almost crashed into one of these douchebags on Friday night. He was driving a bike that had no headlight, so he was really hard to see. This is so dangerous. These bikes are not street legal, therefore ILLEGAL
Only illegal if you can get the police to enforce it.
No offense but Kansas City cops are for decoration only. Occasional brutality to peaceful protestors, and strategically losing rape kits.
Kansas City cops don’t have to live in the city and they are controlled by the state government. They have no incentive to actually do anything to better this community.
West Bottoms resident here. Yeah screw these people
They know the cops. And the cops know them. That’s why.
https://youtu.be/ipDmsxQVxIM?si=Aj10u847qzHAHY0y
These guys, and the ones like them, are truly obnoxious. Unfortunately, that’s probably their goal. Have to listen to it every fkn night in midtown.
Welcome to the city pal. Loud noises and inconsiderate people on AND off motorcycles abound
Yep, KCPD ain’t doing shit about this sort of stuff and it bugs me too. I’m trying to get creative with ways to mess with them that won’t hurt their precious bikes or cause injury. The banana up the tailpipe is probably not feasible but that’s the area of shenanigans I’m thinking of. Dissuade rather than damage
Go ahead and injure them. It's not like KCPD will do anything about it.
Throw sand down in front of them.
Don't forget to watch out for motorcycles.
Catch and release, no charges. Back by 10pm. Doing the same thing. No charges stick. Ask the prosecutors about that. "Why aren't they solving REAL CRIME" "they aren't hurting anyone" "let them have fun" (the other half of kc Redditors)
Wow just got home from seeing them at the scout haha
Wth is wrong with people 🙄
A lot.
On the night the Chiefs won, we saw one of them crash into a car and do a hit-and-run. Whole group of young men on those bikes, just ran off from that exact intersection. I usually find it fun to watch them do tricks from the second floor of UpDown, but they do need to mind other people.
Womp Womp
Here’s an idea… - Build curb extensions along Southwest Boulevard and 19th Street. - Raise the crosswalks so that all vehicles are required to slow down to the speed limit. Right now, ALL of our streets (except P&L) are terribly designed. They’re designed to maximize space for cars, which in turn, encourages faster and more reckless driving. If every crosswalk was raised, then automobiles and motorcycles will be unable to race down the boulevard. If we had curb extensions, then pedestrians who want to cross would be more visible to cars in the road, and cars will naturally want to slow down when the road is narrowed.
Dirt Bikes (and ATVs) are designed with large diameter wheels and long suspension travel specifically to roll over things like rocks, logs, holes, etc. A raised crosswalk will affect every driver except the dirt bike & ATV gangs that'll be enjoying their new little urban jumps.
lol first time downtown in a while I’m guessing? Imagine living down here…. It’s like this every day.
Was the road blocked off? I'm confused
this is nothing. Two bikes? Have you seen the ATV crew? Those guys are a real "nuisance". Have to admit I enjoy it.... even though I admit they are a-holes. I'm not sure this month was the biggest FF turnout. A Few months ago seemed more massive, not just people but more outdoor stuff going on, and had the ATV guys, too.
These guys were just sitting there revving their engines at stoplights. There is a South Park episode about bikers like this.
These atv guys have my 15 year old son hooked he lives inHarrisonville so when he comes to my house and sees that he can’t contain himself always on me about let’s go see if we can find those guys. Or when the street racers go live here he comes running. Dad we have to go were are going to miss it AGAIN!!!!!! I really don’t mind them ya they are loud but it’s entertainment and I haven’t see. Anyone get hurt
Worrying about the cops enforcing a noise ordinance when we have people illegally evicted bc the housing sept doesn’t enforce health code is peak Kcmo vibes. Don’t affect my fun but die over there quietly
Welcome to KCMO 2023-2024
I.e. city doesn’t give a fuck and the cops do but can’t do anything.
Cops at a massive gathering like First Friday are there to keep everyone save and make sure any major incidents get dealt with quickly. someone speeding and revving their motorcycle just isn’t that big a deal.
Until someone gets hit by a motorcycle or car. The city doesn’t belong to cars, it belongs to pedestrians. People need to feel safe crossing the street.
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That is not what pedestrian means..
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Don’t get sensitive, it’s just that pedestrians are driving is a very silly mental image.
I know. You get a bunch of them walking together, and all you hear is hundreds of flip flops clapping against their feet. Such an annoying sound.
OP- do you actually live in the city, or did you drive in from the suburbs to feel like you had culture? Because you just got culture, but it wasn’t what you expected. Stop judging others for despoiling your special event. If you only come into town once a month, your sales taxes would probably be better spent in your own neighborhood, instead of whining about the bullshit that goes on around my house every night. Read the room. Have your own sweet safe lil first Friday in Paola or Lenexa or oak grove. We’ve got real problems here, and your whinging about shit you see once a month is the greasy crumbs in the bag of chips is my daily. Get bent.