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Jumpy_Location_9068

Their confidence plays a huge role….. the threat feels more real in A10s version and he looks helpless. But in Rajini’s version we are confident that our superstar is gonna take care of business


eljoker1407

True. But that's the case with most of the tamil movies, we usually enjoy the journey/how its done rather than how it'll end- epdiyum hero kaapathiruvaru. Malayam la they can end a movie on a positive or negative note, Namba oor la padam paduthrum negative note na. Similary tamil movies makes a lot of commercial compromises which takes it a bit further away from reality.


Ramkee

There are a lot of Tamil movies with negative endings but most heroes and their fans can't handle them. I remember when greedom ajith movie had to change their climax. The problem is we as an audience punish good movies with negative endings more than an average masala movie. Kamal Hassan's career is full of these. And then we blame Tamil cinema directors and actors for not stepping out of their comfort zones.


Adisaiya

>the threat feels more real in A10s version and he looks helpless. Yes. Also, the thrill was there till the end of the original film, whereas in Chandramukhi, we all knew that it's going to end well because Super Star Rajinikanth will always save the day anyway. OP made a mistake by comparing the complete actor Mohanlal with Rajinikanth. No matter what story you cook up for Rajini, it will be Rajinified to the max. Rajini is a separate genre, whereas Mohanlal can fit into any genre. This is a useless comparison, to say the least. Edit: If 'Lakalakalakalaka' is enough for certain people to hail Rajini's performance, then naturally they will favor Chandramukhi, potentially downplaying Mohanlal's brilliant performance among the Tamil audience, as most will lean towards Rajini....and that's unfair, which is why I called it useless.


Potential-Ant-8696

I can understand what are you trying to say now. The real reason why I posted this is because most comparisons regarding Manichithrathazhu and Chandramukhi are related to Ganga characters in both the movies. I felt the friendship angle between the Saravanan and Sendhil/Sunny and Nakulan are not discussed that much. So, I felt to have a discussion about that in this sub like which scene they prefer and why they felt like that. That's the only reason why I posted here.


finixanthony

What the hell did the Tamil version do. i can see the other guy concerned. less angry. Should have had the other way around. People usually reflect insecurity and sadness in anger while in an effort to look confident. But still at least showed some vulnerable sides. But rajnikand is showing no vulnerability here, so as an audience it's hard to feel for the rajnikant's character. There is no challenge for the character there and feels superficial and disconnected. All there is confidence which feels out of place


sgk2000

Because they've hyped him up as he's the best in the world and GOATs in psychology worship him. Typical kollywood MOSS protagonist rendition.


Hummingbirdmusings

I liked the original one mainly because A10 looked helpless and we are able to see that in his demeanour. Even when he promises nakulan he still isn't sure about the whole upcoming thing. The preceeding scene still sends me chills.


upscaspi

How beautifully acted by Suresh Gopi and Mohanlal, far superior in every way. The scene is in perfect continuity with the whole situation- a husband who finds out the depth of his wife’s love for him; whereas sunny is a friend who doesn’t get to witness this but is on the whole concerned for her well being and the depths he has to go for his friends.


arunnairks

Faazil (Fazad Faazil’s dad) is the director of Manichithrathaazhu. I loved the way he pushed the fear element to our hearts with in the first few scenes. I want you to watch [this scene](https://youtu.be/wVn5gPLOdkI?si=9RajAW6fLzdkcwDv) very carefully from 1:12 to 2:19, he turns the table completely. Such as great job. I went to Salem for my engineering in 2007 and there were many debates I had with my Tamil classmates on the storytelling. I was never convinced and couldn’t convince them since they haven’t watched Manichithrathaazhu as well.


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boisickle

Hands down MCT, and MCT is overall the better film IMO than any of the remakes. Writing to accommodate the stars in the remakes has really hurt the film in the remakes. Mohanlal not carrying the "star" baggage really helped MCT massively, the whole focus is on Ganga (Shobhana) and she just hit it out of the park. MCT has excellent drama, rest are just IMO mid star vehicles.


solteiro1234

manichithrathazhu is 10x better than chandramukhi, no doubt in that


Fishyraven

chandramukhi looks like telugu movie with those huge sets and those cast who try to mimic those characters .But manizhitrazhu is a whole mystery thing


brownvenusgirl

Mohanlal and Suresh Gopi, obviously. You can feel the depth of friendship b/w them. He can't lose Nakulan at any cost and Ganga too because he knows how much Nakulan loves her. He has to be careful to not harm both of them in his experiment, which is why he is extremely nervous. The tamil version looks like a convo b/w a doctor and a patient's husband.


Healthy_Ad_7033

Suresh Gopi and Mohanlal poured down emotions. Helpless, Angry, Hope, Sadness. In the context of the movie you can understand why they are being so emotional. Prabhu and Rajnikanth felt like a typical Hero coming to save helpless people, it's like "Don't worry, I'm here... The hero will save us ':Hero Music:'", that kind of feel


Significant-Earth488

I think the way Saravanan and Sunny are portrayed by Rajini and A10 respectively plays a huge role in this conversation. prabhu’s performance looks like he based it a lot on Suresh Gopi’s Nakulan (which is not a bad thing, Prabhu did great) But I kinda notice a self confidence in Rajini that A10 doesn’t have. Because the Tamil convo switches from ‘Saving Ganga’ to ‘what about saving yourself’ quickly while the original stresses more on the “I need to save Ganga” emotion of Nakulan. You can see Sunny has to fight to convince Nakulan to stick with the plan while Saravanan doesn’t have that much trouble convincing Sendhil. Here’s why, In Manichittrathazhu, A10 doesn’t show up till halfway so Nakulan has been dealing with the things going on by himself, while in Chandramukhi, Rajini enters the house with them hence he might have more knowledge on the ghost and Ganga’s condition. I think Nakulan was more desperate than Sendhil but both are good performances. Hope this made sense


Potential-Ant-8696

Great Analysis 👍 Another point I would like to add is Sendhil tries to be more respectful towards Saravanan like he uses "ponga", "vanga" etc. while Nakulan speaks with Sunny casually and calls him "da" and even don't mind to wrestle or fight with him.


Significant-Earth488

Very true. Maybe you can say that Sunny and Nakulan are closer friends than Saravanan and Prabhu are. Like Prabhu is very respectful towards Rajini unlike the more brotherly bond between Sunny and Nakulan.


Potential-Ant-8696

Yeah True


boisickle

My biggest gripe with this "rewrite" is that MCT had realistic stakes of Ganga's mental health - i.e. the issue was never about Nakulan surviving, the issue is that without Nakulan dying Ganga won't recover from her mental illness, she'll be just a vegetable at best. Here it's like Rajini is facing a "threat" to his life, this rewrite is to accommodate his stardom, but this doesn't have any place in this script. And the vulnerability and helplessness of Sunny makes MCT better, i.e. the stakes are higher again, and they're just taking a shot in the dark with the solution. Hands down cinematically MCT is superior. Not just the performances, I'm mostly talking about the writing here.


Significant-Earth488

I completely agree. Chandramukhi was changed a lot to accommodate Rajini’s stardom and MCT is definitely has the superior script. Hell, after watching Chandramukhi 2, it looks like the director never understood that it was never a horror film.


FlyEnvironmental1807

This is exactly what I've been trying to tell Tamil folks. The storyline took a turn for the worst. There is no question of Rajinis life. As per MCT he shouldn't have a role. Ganga doesn't imagine him as a character at all


Significant-Earth488

That was my biggest surprise when watching MCT. That Sunny shows up halfway. Made you connect with Nakulan more that he’s willing to do whatever to save his wife


pkrG99999

A10??


mohantharani

Mohanlal is called A10


pkrG99999

Why so?


mohantharani

Ettan =A10.


pkrG99999

Ohh Ettan ? Malayali word?


mohantharani

It means elder brother.


pkrG99999

Okay..thanks for gnan


icedlemo

Also A10 is a 10/10


LegitimateElk9394

Mohanlal is called as Lalettan (LalA10)...


Sea-Interest4193

The whole movie was mediocre when compared to the original


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pierrepollieve

Mohanlal obviously


handsome-helicopter

A10 is much superior not a contest


anonymous_Giraffe98

My god what's with the bell? And to think that both are decades apart and still the first one remains technically and artistically superior


mrs_robpatt

What kinda question is this? Mohanlal any day and every day


Hairy_Nectarine7484

There's no question here. OG without doubt.


Careless-Lynx-7608

Malayalam version is more real. Tamil version is more superstar make believe. Loved the mal...version.


Ananthu07

the malayalam one


vattolikumbh

The problem with Chandramukhi is very evident.. PRABHU 's character requests and argues with RAJNI 's character like they are complete strangers and that they had nothing beyond Professional relations.. 👍🏻🤌🏻


Cautious-Wallaby-263

Since everyone has already talked about the performances, I needed to point out the way the scenes are shot. In the rajni-prabhu combo, you can see Rajni walking away from Prabhu and talking to the wall, the usual cinematic stuff, which takes away the realistic element. Whereas in Mohanlal-sureshgopi scene, Suresh Gopi walks away and mohanlal runs behind him saying the things he wants to say, just like in real life, which makes you more connected to the scene and feels really effing natural!


ForeverLoud4424

It's all cinema I feel in Rajni and Prabhu version Prabhu is concerned about his wife and friend equally, Rajini on the other hand to be calm and composed about the situation (Heroic mentality) believes his treatment will be 100% effective On the other hand In Malayalam version I feel Suresh character tend to feel more about his wife,A10 on other hand doesn't give confidence that he is the only one who cure friend's wife Chandramuki -Family entertainer Malayalam version - Proper thriller movie


Ok_Syllabub_7853

Ofcourse manichithrathazhu


fanofms

Polaiyaaadi monee


Happy_Savings719

Kadayadi mone is fine by the way👍


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fanofms

Ok


thisisvenky

Was not aware of this, care to explain further about this?


maathi_yosi

we can clearly see the adulation Prabu had for Rajini in this movie. he calls Rajini his friend but still addresses hims"neenga, vanga, ponga." entha oorla pa friend ah ivlo mariyadhaya kupdranga? Whereas in Malayalam we can see the raw emotions flowing through the conversation of two friends. so that was more relatable and it makes the Malayalam version far far superior :) \~ Coming from a Rajini kanni


Mindhunter7

If you take out the part about the mental illness/possession, it sounds like something else. 💀💀💀 Innu oru rathri koode enik tharanam.


master-creb

suresh gopi paathala insta memes dhan nyabagam varudhu


ironicfall

does the malayalam version also have the “doctor can read minds because he’s a doctor” trope?


Insecure_Broccoli

No it didn't... Mohanlal was very grounded in the movie and mostly stuck to doctor business


ironicfall

as it should’ve been. i’m partial to it because the vadivelu comedy track, but that part especially was ridiculous in chandramuki now that i think about it


Potential-Ant-8696

From what I remember, it didn't have something like that.


Usurper96

Rajini one obviously. Saravanan Irukka Bayamen🙏


TheThinker12

/s maranthutenga


sunshinejoefixit

I gave you an upvote


sunshinejoefixit

mALaYaLam veRsIon iS mOrE rEaL bRo.. padame pei padam da bunda. Rajini version 🙌


Potential-Ant-8696

I won't say it's a pei padam tho. It's something that balanced the horror and psychological elements and leave it ambiguous to our own interpretation. That's what makes it fascinating imo. It reminded me of Sujatha's Kolayuthir Kaalam which balanced the elements of horror and science and left whether the incidents are happened by ghost (or) using science ambiguous to the readers.


sunshinejoefixit

Yeah as scientific as 2pointO is.


Potential-Ant-8696

Regarding 2.0, people expected it as a science fiction like Enthiran but caught disappointed when it seems like a horror movie instead of a science fiction to them. Manichithrathazhu/Chandramukhi started like a horror movie but slowly fascinated the audience by exploring a deep psychological aspect beneath it. That's what made it interesting.


That-Cap-4357

People celebrate mohanlal at Drishyam because that character behave like an intelligent clever and clear character and people spread hate on Kamal acting because he made that character more guilty and innocent and uncertainty wether what he did is good or not and now Rajini acted clever(not better than mohanlal) clear character but mohanlal is an studied psychologist but he was nervous and uncertain but people celebrate him and mock tamil actor I'm not trying to tell that Rajini acted better than mohanlal but in this same community they said Kamal acting in papanasam is not better than mohanlal but why we all know Kamal is better but people will always mock on Kamal and this Malayalam Chandramukhi was an inspiration(mostly copied) from Vertigo 1958 but that movie was better than these two and see our most hit collection film is an official remake of history of violence(Leo) what a shame


Potential-Ant-8696

Only difference here is Drishyam Mohan Lal tried to hide a murder that his family committed which he felt as justified as it was happened for the sake of his daughter, while Manichithrathazhu Mohan Lal is trying to save his friend's wife in an experiment where there's a chance that it can be failed. It's not that Mohan Lal is uncertain like that when he's treating every patient, but he is uncertain when he's treating his friend's wife which can fail and lead to both his friend and his wife's death. Drishyam Mohan Lal didn't have any stakes like that and the only thing he have to do is hide the crime and act like nothing has happened without showing any remorse. He was still guilty of what he did considering he revealed it to that boy's parents and even teared up after he ended up his conversation with them. So, overall, Kerala audience feels Mohan Lal's portrayal was a bit nuanced when compared to Kamal's potrayal. That still doesn't mean Kamal's potrayal is bad tho. It's just his own version of George Kutty. I still think it's good in it's own way and felt it's over hated imo.


That-Cap-4357

Okay but I'm not saying that mohanlal acting is bad in drishyam I'm just yapping about the state of kollywood many won't accept my opinion because they are anils and most of the Kamal works are ignored and forgot and mohanlal was celebrated these days and Malayalam movies were Trend now in tamilnadu I'm not stating that mohanlal was an bad actor and Malayalam movies are bad what happened to tamil movies it's all because of our mistake not celebrating good movies and celebrating good movies from abroad and complain why we don't have movies like them but we does have movies that are better than most of the industries of India but those were never celebrated


Potential-Ant-8696

I don't think so. There are audience who still appreciates tamil movies as much as other language movies. Sure, malayalam movies are getting more appreciation than before, but I don't think tamil movies are really getting ignored here imo.


That-Cap-4357

And see I got downvoted because I mentioned Leo what a shame


That-Cap-4357

Bro tamil movies never stopped celebrating but see Malayalam audience celebrating the right Malayalam movies but tamil audience(us) celebrating wrong movies see Aranmanai 4 have 100cr box office and Leo have big box office but good movies have been ignored by us why can't we do this understand this


Potential-Ant-8696

Well it's not like every good malayalam movies are getting 100 cr box office or something. It's all based how the movie is getting marketed and promoted. If we did that properly, I am sure that good movies will be successful like how Maharaja and Garudan had.


That-Cap-4357

They were hit because of the hero I'm not saying they were bad in case they were masterpiece but garudan won't be celebrated if Soori wasn't acted and maharaja will be ignored if it wasn't Vijay sethupathi because many believe that this was his comeback


Potential-Ant-8696

That's what I am saying is. If the good movies were marketed and promoted properly, it will definitely make records. Both Premalu and Majummel Boys did that properly and tasted it's success. That's how box office works imo.


That-Cap-4357

Hey ram did the same but it flopped and because movies like Leo were hit most producers ignoring directors that were never given chance most producers expect family movies or action movies and actor were also the reason Vijay and Rajini had the power to change the tamil industry but they went on comfort sone for their greed of money and fame that's why I hate them


Potential-Ant-8696

You are using "Hey Ram" as an example which was released 24 years ago lol. Audience sensibilities have changed a lot through these years imo. I don't think using that as an example is the correct way to judge the current audience. There are good movies which tasted a pretty good success in tamil movie industry. We just struggles a lot to promote it to other states properly, which is one of the main reasons why many good movies without a big star cast is not getting a 100cr collection. If we actually did that properly like how other industries did that, I am pretty sure that we can make those records possible.


polarityswitch_27

Both are very different movies with the same trope. Comparison is Apples to Oranges IMO. A10 couldn't have pulled off Chandramuki.. and RK could have pulled off MCT had he been cast in that role.


Inner_Nebula_3405

A10 could easily pull of chandramuki and no , rk can’t do what a10 did. Rk even holding a candle to a10 in terms of acting.