Bron retires and joins an NCAA team to compete against Bronny. The NCAA allows him eligibility just because it’d be money on top of money to have LBJ on TV.
They end up never meeting on the court because Bron Jr still isn’t good enough for big minutes.
Yes. You can’t play a sport in college if you have been paid to play that support. But if you haven’t been paid to play that sport (like JR with golf) then you have college eligibility.
Perfect for College with the time frame... because we won't bs an act like it's 48 plus minus of him just clowning people anymore.. let's be honest here. I don't want to go Gil and be stat man, stat man here.
Yea when he first said that was before the heart stuff, it was a weak draft and Bronny was in a great position to go top 20 (like a Reed Shepard, not starting but some might draft him over the starting guards due to intangibles and big games). Since then it's been seemingly more about Bronny development and I also don't think Bron likes being mocked to places just because thru sign his son, that would seemingly stunt his sons self esteem to know you were drafted because someone saw value in your almost 40 year old dad and not necessarily in your development.
He has said since the very beginning of this topic being mentioned that he would love to play with or against. Literally talks about how he would want to block Bronny if he had the chance. No idea why the narrative was he only wanted to play with him.
Technically, when he was still in Cleveland that’s what he initially said. He said he’d love to play with Bronny or against him and laughed about hard fouling him to personally welcome him into the league.
Then, he got to the Lakers and said, “*wherever my son is, that’s where I’m spending my final year*”.
He hasn’t really walked anything back. People chose to interpret it as Bron saying Bronny’s rookie year was going to be his final year, or that he’d sign with whatever team drafted Bronny and spend the final couple years of his career there.
He can literally play against and with Bronny in the last few years of his career. But I think Bronny ends up in LA just bc if there’s a guy that LeBron trusts to develop him, it’s Phil Handy.
I wonder if the heart scare made LeBron pull back on putting pressure on Bronny to play with him as quickly as possible.
Sometimes it takes almost losing a kid to snap some sense and patience into a parent
I've said this before but I think from Bronny's perspective he wants to feel like he earned a spot on a roster and not just given one because of his dad. All this talk about teams drafting him just to sign his dad as a FA wouldn't exactly instill confidence or value in his ability to play basketball. That's how I'd feel at least.
Ya. Also seems like a conflict of interest within a team if Bronny gets special treatment because of his dad. Also, LAL is like the worst place to begin your career unless you're a generational talent because the pressure to win now here is unreal. That's a lot to deal with for a young man who has already had a serious health issue, has to live up to his father's legacy, has to live up to Lakers legacy, and isn't even a top 10 talent in the draft.
He wasn’t even a top 10 talent in mediocre pac 12 basketball. His skill set now isn’t nba ready. He should transfer to a small school and actual development where he gets meaningful minutes.
💯 He needs to get his confidence back. He likely had PTSD from basically dying in n the court and being brought back to life! Had that cardiac arrest not happened, I say his Fresman year goes a lot different
Yep, bronny has always wanted to chart his own course.
It’s also an impossible job to ask of a coach to have lbj on the team with his son when his son is clearly currently not good enough to play. It might have been different pre heart scare because bronny legitimately looked like he would develop into a solid second round/late first pick.
On the flip side, based on all available data nothing about Bronny looks like he’d be a successful NBA player.
Playing with his dad and then exiting the league a year or two after Lebron retires in order to go into commentating is a much more realistic career path.
Has any super star's kid ever turned out to be a lock in the nba? There's Curry but I don't remember his dad really being more than an above average shooter for the time. Pippen and Peyton Jr are bouncing around teams and both spent time in the Gleague. I guess Sabonis counts.
I mean there's nothing to suggest Bron lacked sense or patience. The health scare set his son back and they're adjusting to that. Even the "playing with his son" part this is still Bron we're talking about. If he didn't think his son is good enough for the NBA, he wouldn't have wanted to do it. The kid is obviously talented, but got dealt a heavy blow and was in a hospital while other players his age were in training for the season. I don't know what people expect honestly...
Also after the heart attack Bron probably realized nothing matters more than Bronny’s health and happiness. Playing with his son was always Bron’s dream but not Bronny’s.
tbf bron said exactly that before the heart problems, he had already walked back the original statement of wanting to play with him no matter what but it didn’t get 1/100th of the coverage
I feel like if I was in his shoes I’d have constantly been thinking of Ken Griffey, Jr. in the dugout with his dad and wanting the basketball equivalent with that. It’s like every dad’s dream.
If I was in the kid’s position, I wouldn’t want to be on the same team as my dad. Not for a second. Imagine going to college as a freshman and being roommates with your parents in the dorms. Fuckkkkk that
Plus, no matter what you do, you know how people are going to perceive you. The same way the boss’ son is perceived in any office. Like a brat. “Oh, of COURSE you made the team….oh, I wonder WHY??” “Of COURSE you are getting playing time…I wonder WHY hmmmm”.
Absolute no win situation. Fuck that if I’m Bronny.
Honestly, man, it’s going to be that way regardless.
LeBron’s literally helped one of his best friends since he was in high school become the most popular agent in basketball. Bronny’s signed to that agent. That agent is going to work his ass off in getting Bronny into the best situation possible, if they decide being with dad isn’t the way to go.
People are going to say that shit about him regardless. The only thing you can do is prove you belong on the court.
The difference is his father is Lebron James. Only one son has an opportunity to make his father's dream come true.
The correlation missed the mark. Many kids support their parents' dreams. Many have walked across the stage with their parents at graduation or even taken their parent to prom.
Parents make their kids dreams come true but some kids also make their parents dreams come true.
That's the love some of you are missing. Worried about what other people will think of you over how you could make your parent feel.
It's ridiculous and immature honestly.
I wouldn’t care if I was a software engineering major and my dad was Bill Gates. You pave your own way. The connections and talent should only take you so far. I wouldn’t want to miss the life experiences that everyone else gets to stay in a parent’s shadow. It’s already hard enough to live up to their standard of success, but to try to do so right next to them? It’s impossible. It’s a cool story that everyone will forget about 5 years from now, but the consequences to his career will suffer forever. It’s not immature to take that into consideration.
I think realizing it’s gonna be much more development than originally thought to get him. I think he was hoping maybe expecting it to be a quicker process…like this draft.
It’s not walking it back tbh.
LeBron has always said he wants to spend the last year of his career playing with his son(s). That never meant spending the final 3 years of his career in a uniform with the lil nigga.
Windhorst has mentioned multiple times Lebron may be looking for a no-trade clause. Has to opt out and sign a new deal to get one. Good news is, his max would be slightly lower than his PO. ~$2m difference
I think he should get it just so none of us and him or his family have to deal with BS articles or shows speculating on the Lakers trading him like we endured last trade deadline. That peace from the media alone is worth seeking such a clause. Even the Lakers might be for this for that reason.
If the Lakers fire Ham a year and a half after they fired Vogel in the way they fired him, they never sign another good head coach as long as Jeanie’s in charge.
No trade clause for Bron would be as useless as Brad beals for phoenix’s….. it wouldn’t be. Ain’t nobody trading either of them, although for very different reasons lmao
If he’s looking for a no trade clause then that rumor at the deadline of Pelinka entertaining offers for bron must’ve had some truth to it. There is really no reason for bron to seek a no trade clause otherwise. Maybe lakers were listening to offers and then went to him at the last minute to see if he was ok with a trade and lebron didn’t like that they were listening to them.
Edit: I mean we know the warriors tried to trade for him and maybe that reporter who said Pelinka was listening to offers was correct. We know from what was reported that they asked bron if he would want to be traded to the warriors and he said no. So I’m wondering if bron didn’t like that they were even entertaining offers that happened to get far enough along to ask bron if he wanted the trade and without bron being the one to ask for the trade in the first place.
I wouldn’t go that far as to say it must mean Lakers had discussions on trading him. I actually doubt they ever even considered it. From Lebron’s pov, if you can get a no-trade clause there’s no reason not to. It just provides him with complete control and security. He can trust the word of Jeanie all he wants but at the end of the day you never know what can happen. It also allows him to dictate what team he wants to go to if he were to ever want to be traded. I’m not saying Lakers would ever consider trading him or he would ever want to be traded just pointing out the benefits of having it.
Oh yeah I’m sure they wouldn’t trade him without him being ok with it since I don’t think that would be a good look to future players. They did have the warriors try to trade for him at the deadline last year and it got so far that they asked bron if he would want to be traded there. Didn’t seem from the rumors that bron initiated those talks or was even interested in the possibility. From brons perspective he might be thinking of the no trade clause because of them not immediately shutting the trade talks down until they got brons thought on them or even entertaining offers without bron asking to be traded.
For the warriors owner to go to Jeanie and ask her to ask bron about the trade, or something to that effect, I’m thinking they must’ve already had a framework for the deal worked out and just needed brons approval. Everyone thought it was weird when that reporter who didn’t have many followers and was usually a trustworthy source would stake his reputation on something as big as Pelinka entertaining offers for bron but that reporter was right with the warriors trying to get bron.
I wouldn't be shocked if that's what he ends up doing. He already had too much pressure on him and the cardiac arrest clearly stifled his first year. People can hate on him if they want, but he was a better player in his senior year of high school than he was this year even when factoring in better competition. Going to a mid-major where he gets more minutes could help him rebound faster and at least show some good growth on offense.
I’m all in on this next 2 years. Use all our draft picks for a trade to give AD and Lebron the best chance these next 2 seasons. We gotta swing for the fences while the GOAT is still playing like a top 10 player.
If ya'll thought Bron at 40 fuckin years old was leaving 151m on the table to go do something in Philly, ya'll crazy lol He was never leaving. Lakers are going to give him the legacy contract. He's going to retire here.
Re: Bronny this tells me Bronny might be staying in NCAA maybe try to raise the draft stock again. Could be a smokescreen, but Idk. I almost guarantee Jeanie will demand we draft Bronny if he stays in the draft as a 2nd rounder.
Bronny was never coming out. Players declare and remove themselves every year. It allows them to legally talk to GMs and see what they need to work on. I said at the time, he put in the transfer portal at the same time because his goal was to come out in the future having worked on the things GMs want from him. You only had to look to know what he was actually doing.
I understand all that, but it's a fairly unique circumstance with Bron still playing. That window might close sooner than either thinks. If it's not next summer, it could get shaky for Brons goal.
And with Bron and the Lakers, I think the Lakers would draft him even if he's not ready.
Bronny doesn’t want to play with his dad. That’s why Lebron mentioned the next day that he doesn’t have to play with his son. It was clear Bronny and his dad don’t want the same thing.
I haven't seen anything that tells me Bronny can't one day be an NBA player. But I see a lot that tells me it's too early for him now, particularly with being named LeBron James Jr. he's going to have a target on his back very similar to Lonzo Ball when he first got in the league that everyone is going to want to "target" and "cook" him.
Remember game 1 when Pat Bev did all he could to get into Lonzo's head....yeh that shit worked.
As someone who's extremely healthy, athletic and had a heart attack due to an underlying red wine allergy (never had a glass of red until I was 29 years old), there is absolutely nothing more terrifying then getting your heart over 150bpm again.
The fact he even suited up for college games is brave AF.
Damn I guess Bron is squashing the rumors early. Sounds like Bron also knows Bronny may not be ready to play in the NBA while Bron is in the league so I think Bronny goes to the G League somewhere without the circus and see if he can develop his game more. Not gonna lie giving a 40 year old the max deal scares me but I think we have to do it especially if we can't replace his production. They have to make Bron the 3rd star next year. They can't rely so heavily on Bron being superman year after year. I love Bron but this year was probably the most I've seen him physically decline (still inhuman and a top athlete in the league) but no longer can just outwill his opponent all game long, I don't know who that star is but they need someone. D'lo is not that guy. Reaves is amazing but he's not that guy either.
Unless Lebron takes an unprecedented vet minimum, we’re so over the cap, we can’t do anything besides the MLE and resigning those with bird rights. So it would be an extreme disservice to Lebron if we don’t offer anything but a max to him.
Please make a post about this so people, especially Bron haters, here would understand. The only way Lebron will help the salary situation is if he takes the veteran minimum which is an EXCEPTION or the mid-level EXCEPTION. If Lebron signs even a million dollars above the vet min, it would not free up space. It will only help Jeanie Buss.
Exactly bro and if he signed for that little the entire players association would want to kill lebron. You would have a top 15 player signing for the league minimum and you know other owners around the league would go to their stars and ask them to do the same while many of the owners would pocket the difference in pay.
Like the players would be happy with that HELL to the NOOOOO!
Exactly. Thank go we have people like you who are actually intelligent. I keep telling idiots on here that unless Bron resigns for the league minimum it will not help the team cap wise.
And once again none of these recent all time greats even when they were washed (Dirk, Duncan, Kobe and etc) were playing for the league minimum.
What's wrong with letting Bronny develop in college for a few more years? He clearly isn't NBA ready and that's OK. Transfer him to a smaller school that will focus on his development as a combo guard. Tons of nba players needed 2 or 3 years in college.
I think even the G League would probably be too much for him at this point. Those are still grown ass men in that league, most of them were stars at the college level. It's not the best league for a 20 year old to play in, look at the LA developmental team and how hard it was for them. And those kids were 5 star recruits.
Optics. I bet we still draft him with our 2nd round.
He's just saying that so other random teams from other cities won't steal Bronny from us. Smart play by Bron.
Okay Woj, what about DLo now
He's saying if other teams believe it isn't important for Bron to play with Bronny then they won't be inclined to pick him, giving the chance for the Lakers to get him with a second instead of their first. Since the whole narrative was that Bron would go to the team that drafts Bronny.
My point is that would be a selfish move on Lebron’s part, which isn’t the way he is as a father. If someone wants to take Bronny earlier in the draft than the Lakers, he would be pushing for that
Bron will play where he can win and then sign a 1 day contract after he retires to share the court as a teammate with Bronny with whatever team he happens to be on. Sticky this post because it's 100% how it's going to go down.
Hopefully lakers don't give him a legacy contract. I don't think that's the right decision and no offense but I don't think he deserves it for the Lakers.
You might as well start the rebuild. You're gonna get seats in the stands regardless if Lakers have a superstar or not.
Bronny isn’t progressing as much as some would’ve expected. If he’s a 2nd rounder that’s fine, but he doesn’t seem league ready at all. If LeBron is smart, he won’t force his son into the league. Would look worse for them both. Maybe let him forge his own path and ask for a special all-star “pick” so father and son can play together for one night
How good of a shooter can Bronny become this offseason? If he can come off the bench as a 2nd round 3 & D point guard, I'd go for it. But only if he doesn't love college which I'd have a hard time believing.
Lebron wanting to play with his son may have been his dream but is it good for bronny, bronny wants to have a career for him self too and not have everything be attached to his dad. I have a son and I may want to do certain things with him or want him to do certain things doesn’t mean he wants to. Ppl always look at it from lebrons side and it always felt like a forced idea for lebron. No one asked bronny what he wants
I like this from Lebron more. It would be like going to work with your Father. You’d be viewed as lesser than and a nepo baby. Imagine the team huddles. It’s just a nightmare situation. I’m glad Bron is giving him space to pursue his career his way.
kinda a bit of damage control. Bronny didn't have a great freshman season, so Bron has walked back the comments. However as we saw with Shams' article there are other ways to get the opinion that lebron has out there without taking heat. Overall bronny has options, Transfer to another university or stay at USC... if he chooses to go to the draft he will be picked up by LA somehow. I think it was the right move to let bronny make his choice.
Damn this is pretty crazy - Woj outing his source (usually they would say “my sources”
They r putting the ball in Jeanie hands - Lebron is looking to sign for 3 years! Wild!
That’s too much pressure on Bronny, especially as a LAL and being the son of a generational talent in the NBA. Bronny needs to start his career off in a small/mid market team. A destination like Orlando or Portland sounds right for Bronny.
If not in the NBA, stick him to the G-League with the Ignite. LeBron likes Las Vegas and it’s close to LA.
Never believe Woj. So now he spoke with Rich Paul....I don't trust that lying fucker when it comes to Lebron. The hoe Wojo been a hater of Lebron for damn near 2 decades now....Fuck Wojo and his bloodline.
Bronny going to play for Dru at Duquesne wld be a great move.
LBJ needs to decide if he needs more than 50 million a year more than another title.
Opt in or even better restructure and free up some money.
I've been wanting Bronny to come and play in Australia for a while now. He should be good enough obviously if he's a hope of making the NBA one day, but what you can learn from playing pro ball as opposed to college ball is huge. The knowledge and experience of those on the floor next to you and opposite you is invaluable. He won't skate through just on talent or his name, he'll have to earn his minutes or sit on the bench. He'll have to learn the findamentals, he'll have to defend. He'll also have the benefit of the preparation and recovery of a professional team without having to worry about his grades if he's also juggling study at a college.
And from a personal perspective, getting out of his dad's shadow would be huge. He'll play most of the year with his dad not even in the country. No pressure from a big name because the NBL won't really care about LeBron. Unlike the NBA he can't really influence much here. And he also will be able to live as a pretty unrecognisable person. He could walk down the street anonymously.
No thanks. Bronny doesn’t deserve to be drafted based on his talent. He will be taking one of the few available roster spots in the NBA from someone who wouldn’t be nepotism hire.
Bronny should really enter the draft and Lebron should make a real TV show out of this. I’d watch the shit out of it just to follow bronny career. It’s just a trippy experience to have watched most of Lebron James life play out on TV and now we have the opportunity to do it with his son too.
Brons the goat, I love him. He’s worth $50 million but if he wants to win and help the lakers.
Take a pay cut and take a 17-25 million dollar 1 year contract see what Rob can build and trade and assess Bronny and your future after the 2025 season.
A few famous wealthy people in LA that have business connections with bron have said that he is making good money outside the nba by just by living in LA him staying with the lakers is a business move
Bron was annoying. First he sent out tweet about Bronny being better than many NBA players. Then when Bronny started playing at USC and there were comments -- Lebron said not to judge Bronny -- let him play without criticism.
I think the best thing for Bronny would be to go to a good college with good coaching and play 2-3 years. Hopefully the hype would die down over time.
Let’s draft Bronny and put all in for a third star. As long as we have Bron and AD, we always have a chance for title. We would have to wait for another 10 years if Bron leaves.
Leads me to believe that LeBron doesn’t trust the Lakers to develop him. Which is a fair belief.
This team hasn’t been about developing talent since LeBron got here.
Reaves was thrown into the fire and Bronny isn’t someone to do that with, imo. Bronny needs a system that’s gonna be patient and let him make mistakes. It’s ultimately why he should go back to college.
Look at Max Christie. Just bench sitting. His development has been hindered because he doesn’t get minutes and real time reps.
Man, I'm done with the thought of spending more money on a player who will be 40 next season. Yeah, he's the Goat, but there are obvious signs he is slowing down and next season will be more of the same unless he is cut back to 20-30 min/gm.
Father Time makes ruin of every athlete in the end.
It just sucks that as long as he's a Laker, he will be getting max deals. I understand it from the team perspective with merchandise and ticket sales, but I can't see the team getting any better as long as LBJ is is Purp and Gold.
if Bron was actually serious about winning, he would take at most, $20 mill per year. AT MOST. Dude is gonna be 40. No team should have 75% of their cap space tied down to a 40 year old.
Dudes 40 but still better than 99% of the roster lmao, also him taking a paycut will NOT help their cap space situation. So might as well pay what he wanted or someone else will.
2-3 years??? What happens when he decides to hang up his sneaks - what do we get in return? We need assets. I know what Lebron means to the game but let’s blow this shit up and develop some young guns with a New Jack style coach. Build around AD! I think LeBron would be great on the Sixers team with Embiid. I like Reeves, I like Rui, I like Vando- there are some pieces
Bronny needs development. Stick him in the G League for a couple of years. He isn't ready for the NBA and it would be bad for his development to play him minutes now, or to have him sit on the end of a bench gathering dust.
We should have an agreement that we get Bronny and Lebron restructures his deal. That way we can get better help, and he can be with the team when Bronny makes it up here a couple of years from now.
Bron started walking back the play with his son thing last year..I think it’s always been more important for him on what Brony wants to do/needs.
That’s what I noticed. He made sure to say something like playing with OR against him in the nba was his goal, right?
‘Or whateva da case may be’ 🤣
Bron retires and joins an NCAA team to compete against Bronny. The NCAA allows him eligibility just because it’d be money on top of money to have LBJ on TV. They end up never meeting on the court because Bron Jr still isn’t good enough for big minutes.
I mean he has never been to college and he could win one more ring 😂. Oldest freshman to win an NCAA title. He can even recruit jr smith 😀
Isn't there an NCAA rule that disallows former pro athletes? It's why JR couldn't play for the basketball team and went to golf.
Oh. I have no idea. I just thought it’d be funny as hell if Lebron won an NCAA title as a 40 year old
40yr old NCAA virgin
Yes. You can’t play a sport in college if you have been paid to play that support. But if you haven’t been paid to play that sport (like JR with golf) then you have college eligibility.
So Bron finally gets to play TE, and he's still younger than Brandon Weeden was when he played /s
correct - bron could play football if he wanted to tho
Even old man LeBron would dominate college basketball. Just too big and too skilled.
He still dominates in the NBA, he would absolutely destroy college basketball.
Perfect for College with the time frame... because we won't bs an act like it's 48 plus minus of him just clowning people anymore.. let's be honest here. I don't want to go Gil and be stat man, stat man here.
Then he re enters the draft and goes number 1 again.
Bro would be playing against literal accountants
Imagine you are college player who flunked his physics exam then you will have to match up Lebron in a do or die game.
Shoulda played Bron before the exam then you would definitely remember F = MA
LeNticular Stress
Or “things of that nature”
Yea when he first said that was before the heart stuff, it was a weak draft and Bronny was in a great position to go top 20 (like a Reed Shepard, not starting but some might draft him over the starting guards due to intangibles and big games). Since then it's been seemingly more about Bronny development and I also don't think Bron likes being mocked to places just because thru sign his son, that would seemingly stunt his sons self esteem to know you were drafted because someone saw value in your almost 40 year old dad and not necessarily in your development.
it's just basketball
He has said since the very beginning of this topic being mentioned that he would love to play with or against. Literally talks about how he would want to block Bronny if he had the chance. No idea why the narrative was he only wanted to play with him.
Play with on the same team is what he said
He never once mentioned being on the same team
Stop gaslighting. LeBron clearly wanted to play with his son. Nothing wrong with that, it just doesn't seem like the chips will fall that way.
No, he’s said both.
Technically, when he was still in Cleveland that’s what he initially said. He said he’d love to play with Bronny or against him and laughed about hard fouling him to personally welcome him into the league. Then, he got to the Lakers and said, “*wherever my son is, that’s where I’m spending my final year*”. He hasn’t really walked anything back. People chose to interpret it as Bron saying Bronny’s rookie year was going to be his final year, or that he’d sign with whatever team drafted Bronny and spend the final couple years of his career there. He can literally play against and with Bronny in the last few years of his career. But I think Bronny ends up in LA just bc if there’s a guy that LeBron trusts to develop him, it’s Phil Handy.
I wonder if the heart scare made LeBron pull back on putting pressure on Bronny to play with him as quickly as possible. Sometimes it takes almost losing a kid to snap some sense and patience into a parent
I've said this before but I think from Bronny's perspective he wants to feel like he earned a spot on a roster and not just given one because of his dad. All this talk about teams drafting him just to sign his dad as a FA wouldn't exactly instill confidence or value in his ability to play basketball. That's how I'd feel at least.
Ya. Also seems like a conflict of interest within a team if Bronny gets special treatment because of his dad. Also, LAL is like the worst place to begin your career unless you're a generational talent because the pressure to win now here is unreal. That's a lot to deal with for a young man who has already had a serious health issue, has to live up to his father's legacy, has to live up to Lakers legacy, and isn't even a top 10 talent in the draft.
He wasn’t even a top 10 talent in mediocre pac 12 basketball. His skill set now isn’t nba ready. He should transfer to a small school and actual development where he gets meaningful minutes.
💯 He needs to get his confidence back. He likely had PTSD from basically dying in n the court and being brought back to life! Had that cardiac arrest not happened, I say his Fresman year goes a lot different
Oh yea and USC would have been better with Bronny at 100%.
💯
Yep, bronny has always wanted to chart his own course. It’s also an impossible job to ask of a coach to have lbj on the team with his son when his son is clearly currently not good enough to play. It might have been different pre heart scare because bronny legitimately looked like he would develop into a solid second round/late first pick.
This. Earned not given, Bronny might have heard about that phrase.
On the flip side, based on all available data nothing about Bronny looks like he’d be a successful NBA player. Playing with his dad and then exiting the league a year or two after Lebron retires in order to go into commentating is a much more realistic career path.
Has any super star's kid ever turned out to be a lock in the nba? There's Curry but I don't remember his dad really being more than an above average shooter for the time. Pippen and Peyton Jr are bouncing around teams and both spent time in the Gleague. I guess Sabonis counts.
Hardaway
Klay's dad, 1st overall pick
Exactly! If I were Bronny, I wouldn’t want that.
I mean there's nothing to suggest Bron lacked sense or patience. The health scare set his son back and they're adjusting to that. Even the "playing with his son" part this is still Bron we're talking about. If he didn't think his son is good enough for the NBA, he wouldn't have wanted to do it. The kid is obviously talented, but got dealt a heavy blow and was in a hospital while other players his age were in training for the season. I don't know what people expect honestly...
Also after the heart attack Bron probably realized nothing matters more than Bronny’s health and happiness. Playing with his son was always Bron’s dream but not Bronny’s.
tbf bron said exactly that before the heart problems, he had already walked back the original statement of wanting to play with him no matter what but it didn’t get 1/100th of the coverage
I feel like if I was in his shoes I’d have constantly been thinking of Ken Griffey, Jr. in the dugout with his dad and wanting the basketball equivalent with that. It’s like every dad’s dream.
You can tell some ppl either didn't have a father around or had a shitty father. This is about LBJ & Bronny. Theyre close as hell.
If I was in the kid’s position, I wouldn’t want to be on the same team as my dad. Not for a second. Imagine going to college as a freshman and being roommates with your parents in the dorms. Fuckkkkk that
Plus, no matter what you do, you know how people are going to perceive you. The same way the boss’ son is perceived in any office. Like a brat. “Oh, of COURSE you made the team….oh, I wonder WHY??” “Of COURSE you are getting playing time…I wonder WHY hmmmm”. Absolute no win situation. Fuck that if I’m Bronny.
Honestly, man, it’s going to be that way regardless. LeBron’s literally helped one of his best friends since he was in high school become the most popular agent in basketball. Bronny’s signed to that agent. That agent is going to work his ass off in getting Bronny into the best situation possible, if they decide being with dad isn’t the way to go. People are going to say that shit about him regardless. The only thing you can do is prove you belong on the court.
These are fair points.
The difference is his father is Lebron James. Only one son has an opportunity to make his father's dream come true. The correlation missed the mark. Many kids support their parents' dreams. Many have walked across the stage with their parents at graduation or even taken their parent to prom. Parents make their kids dreams come true but some kids also make their parents dreams come true. That's the love some of you are missing. Worried about what other people will think of you over how you could make your parent feel. It's ridiculous and immature honestly.
I wouldn’t care if I was a software engineering major and my dad was Bill Gates. You pave your own way. The connections and talent should only take you so far. I wouldn’t want to miss the life experiences that everyone else gets to stay in a parent’s shadow. It’s already hard enough to live up to their standard of success, but to try to do so right next to them? It’s impossible. It’s a cool story that everyone will forget about 5 years from now, but the consequences to his career will suffer forever. It’s not immature to take that into consideration.
Cause the boy just ain't ready anything else is bs.
Well yeah, his kid almost fucking died
I think realizing it’s gonna be much more development than originally thought to get him. I think he was hoping maybe expecting it to be a quicker process…like this draft.
Yup. He also wants to win, and prioritizing this kind of thing can hinder his chances.
It’s not walking it back tbh. LeBron has always said he wants to spend the last year of his career playing with his son(s). That never meant spending the final 3 years of his career in a uniform with the lil nigga.
Dru Joyce made it seem like Bronny is gonna transfer to Duquesne. .which would be great for his development
I agree.
Windhorst has mentioned multiple times Lebron may be looking for a no-trade clause. Has to opt out and sign a new deal to get one. Good news is, his max would be slightly lower than his PO. ~$2m difference
Would he even need a no-trade? If there's any owner in this league I would believe on a handshake deal, it's Jeanie
I don’t disagree, but it’s just added security. If he can get it might as well.
I think he should get it just so none of us and him or his family have to deal with BS articles or shows speculating on the Lakers trading him like we endured last trade deadline. That peace from the media alone is worth seeking such a clause. Even the Lakers might be for this for that reason.
Always get it in writing.
Blake Griffin.
Or brad beal lol
Lol sif Jeanie gonna trade her golden rooster ...
She kept Ham employed far longer than she needed to.
If the Lakers fire Ham a year and a half after they fired Vogel in the way they fired him, they never sign another good head coach as long as Jeanie’s in charge.
Solution? We fire him during season - no coach would want to work for Lakers, where you can’t get anything wrong
No trade clause for Bron would be as useless as Brad beals for phoenix’s….. it wouldn’t be. Ain’t nobody trading either of them, although for very different reasons lmao
If he’s looking for a no trade clause then that rumor at the deadline of Pelinka entertaining offers for bron must’ve had some truth to it. There is really no reason for bron to seek a no trade clause otherwise. Maybe lakers were listening to offers and then went to him at the last minute to see if he was ok with a trade and lebron didn’t like that they were listening to them. Edit: I mean we know the warriors tried to trade for him and maybe that reporter who said Pelinka was listening to offers was correct. We know from what was reported that they asked bron if he would want to be traded to the warriors and he said no. So I’m wondering if bron didn’t like that they were even entertaining offers that happened to get far enough along to ask bron if he wanted the trade and without bron being the one to ask for the trade in the first place.
I wouldn’t go that far as to say it must mean Lakers had discussions on trading him. I actually doubt they ever even considered it. From Lebron’s pov, if you can get a no-trade clause there’s no reason not to. It just provides him with complete control and security. He can trust the word of Jeanie all he wants but at the end of the day you never know what can happen. It also allows him to dictate what team he wants to go to if he were to ever want to be traded. I’m not saying Lakers would ever consider trading him or he would ever want to be traded just pointing out the benefits of having it.
Oh yeah I’m sure they wouldn’t trade him without him being ok with it since I don’t think that would be a good look to future players. They did have the warriors try to trade for him at the deadline last year and it got so far that they asked bron if he would want to be traded there. Didn’t seem from the rumors that bron initiated those talks or was even interested in the possibility. From brons perspective he might be thinking of the no trade clause because of them not immediately shutting the trade talks down until they got brons thought on them or even entertaining offers without bron asking to be traded. For the warriors owner to go to Jeanie and ask her to ask bron about the trade, or something to that effect, I’m thinking they must’ve already had a framework for the deal worked out and just needed brons approval. Everyone thought it was weird when that reporter who didn’t have many followers and was usually a trustworthy source would stake his reputation on something as big as Pelinka entertaining offers for bron but that reporter was right with the warriors trying to get bron.
Bronny should go play at Duquesne for a year where he can put up 10 shots a night and develop more
Absolutely agree
I wouldn't be shocked if that's what he ends up doing. He already had too much pressure on him and the cardiac arrest clearly stifled his first year. People can hate on him if they want, but he was a better player in his senior year of high school than he was this year even when factoring in better competition. Going to a mid-major where he gets more minutes could help him rebound faster and at least show some good growth on offense.
Agreed!
Maybe Lebron should go play with Bronny at Duquesne too & just demolish some NCAA teams
LeBron’s 21 years of pro level basketball has voided his college eligibility.
I’m all in on this next 2 years. Use all our draft picks for a trade to give AD and Lebron the best chance these next 2 seasons. We gotta swing for the fences while the GOAT is still playing like a top 10 player.
We should go for 3&D guys and maybe some depth at the big man position
If ya'll thought Bron at 40 fuckin years old was leaving 151m on the table to go do something in Philly, ya'll crazy lol He was never leaving. Lakers are going to give him the legacy contract. He's going to retire here. Re: Bronny this tells me Bronny might be staying in NCAA maybe try to raise the draft stock again. Could be a smokescreen, but Idk. I almost guarantee Jeanie will demand we draft Bronny if he stays in the draft as a 2nd rounder.
Bronny was never coming out. Players declare and remove themselves every year. It allows them to legally talk to GMs and see what they need to work on. I said at the time, he put in the transfer portal at the same time because his goal was to come out in the future having worked on the things GMs want from him. You only had to look to know what he was actually doing.
I understand all that, but it's a fairly unique circumstance with Bron still playing. That window might close sooner than either thinks. If it's not next summer, it could get shaky for Brons goal. And with Bron and the Lakers, I think the Lakers would draft him even if he's not ready.
Bronny doesn’t want to play with his dad. That’s why Lebron mentioned the next day that he doesn’t have to play with his son. It was clear Bronny and his dad don’t want the same thing.
I haven't seen anything that tells me Bronny can't one day be an NBA player. But I see a lot that tells me it's too early for him now, particularly with being named LeBron James Jr. he's going to have a target on his back very similar to Lonzo Ball when he first got in the league that everyone is going to want to "target" and "cook" him. Remember game 1 when Pat Bev did all he could to get into Lonzo's head....yeh that shit worked.
Him and his fam are living the best life in LA. People are dumb for thinking he’s leaving as a 40 year old.
If Bronny gets drafted by any team, it’s by name only. He’s just not good enough for the NBA, let alone the NCAA
But warrior fans said that if he wants to win he should join steph in GS /s
If this is true, glad to hear that Bron is prioritizing Bronny's development over his own wishes. Bronny needs another year and more potentially.
As someone who's extremely healthy, athletic and had a heart attack due to an underlying red wine allergy (never had a glass of red until I was 29 years old), there is absolutely nothing more terrifying then getting your heart over 150bpm again. The fact he even suited up for college games is brave AF.
Exactly.
Damn I guess Bron is squashing the rumors early. Sounds like Bron also knows Bronny may not be ready to play in the NBA while Bron is in the league so I think Bronny goes to the G League somewhere without the circus and see if he can develop his game more. Not gonna lie giving a 40 year old the max deal scares me but I think we have to do it especially if we can't replace his production. They have to make Bron the 3rd star next year. They can't rely so heavily on Bron being superman year after year. I love Bron but this year was probably the most I've seen him physically decline (still inhuman and a top athlete in the league) but no longer can just outwill his opponent all game long, I don't know who that star is but they need someone. D'lo is not that guy. Reaves is amazing but he's not that guy either.
40 year old Lebron is still better than 95% of the league so I would
Paying $50m to third star means supporting casts are DLo, Hachimura, Reaves level.
LeBron salary= 1st option production, LeBron needs to give us some discount to be able to sign good players.
Unless Lebron takes an unprecedented vet minimum, we’re so over the cap, we can’t do anything besides the MLE and resigning those with bird rights. So it would be an extreme disservice to Lebron if we don’t offer anything but a max to him.
Please make a post about this so people, especially Bron haters, here would understand. The only way Lebron will help the salary situation is if he takes the veteran minimum which is an EXCEPTION or the mid-level EXCEPTION. If Lebron signs even a million dollars above the vet min, it would not free up space. It will only help Jeanie Buss.
Exactly bro and if he signed for that little the entire players association would want to kill lebron. You would have a top 15 player signing for the league minimum and you know other owners around the league would go to their stars and ask them to do the same while many of the owners would pocket the difference in pay. Like the players would be happy with that HELL to the NOOOOO!
Exactly. Thank go we have people like you who are actually intelligent. I keep telling idiots on here that unless Bron resigns for the league minimum it will not help the team cap wise. And once again none of these recent all time greats even when they were washed (Dirk, Duncan, Kobe and etc) were playing for the league minimum.
Can LeBron defer a portion of his salary to open up more cap space?
Only if he takes a Vet Minimum. But the NBAPA would absolutely hate a player of Lebron’s caliber taking a minimum. It would set a terrible precedent.
He could go 23 per year for 5 years
LeReasonable man
What's wrong with letting Bronny develop in college for a few more years? He clearly isn't NBA ready and that's OK. Transfer him to a smaller school that will focus on his development as a combo guard. Tons of nba players needed 2 or 3 years in college. I think even the G League would probably be too much for him at this point. Those are still grown ass men in that league, most of them were stars at the college level. It's not the best league for a 20 year old to play in, look at the LA developmental team and how hard it was for them. And those kids were 5 star recruits.
Optics. I bet we still draft him with our 2nd round. He's just saying that so other random teams from other cities won't steal Bronny from us. Smart play by Bron. Okay Woj, what about DLo now
Wait, how does that make any sense at all?
He's saying if other teams believe it isn't important for Bron to play with Bronny then they won't be inclined to pick him, giving the chance for the Lakers to get him with a second instead of their first. Since the whole narrative was that Bron would go to the team that drafts Bronny.
I guess, but that seems like the wrong move for Lebron. He wants his son drafted, priority #1. Why try to dissuade teams from doing so?
Cause he wants to play with him in LA?
My point is that would be a selfish move on Lebron’s part, which isn’t the way he is as a father. If someone wants to take Bronny earlier in the draft than the Lakers, he would be pushing for that
Nah. He knows his son aint a lottery talent. Bronny on Lakers will give him a longer lifeline.
Woj and Rich Paul made up?
He may well wait for Bryce then
Full clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=002-ubTKMBw
Bron will play where he can win and then sign a 1 day contract after he retires to share the court as a teammate with Bronny with whatever team he happens to be on. Sticky this post because it's 100% how it's going to go down.
Trade bron. Start the rebuild.
Might as well. This franchise has become a circus so let’s just enjoy the clown show. 🤡
Hopefully lakers don't give him a legacy contract. I don't think that's the right decision and no offense but I don't think he deserves it for the Lakers. You might as well start the rebuild. You're gonna get seats in the stands regardless if Lakers have a superstar or not.
Bronny isn’t progressing as much as some would’ve expected. If he’s a 2nd rounder that’s fine, but he doesn’t seem league ready at all. If LeBron is smart, he won’t force his son into the league. Would look worse for them both. Maybe let him forge his own path and ask for a special all-star “pick” so father and son can play together for one night
How good of a shooter can Bronny become this offseason? If he can come off the bench as a 2nd round 3 & D point guard, I'd go for it. But only if he doesn't love college which I'd have a hard time believing.
He’s not gonna develop much on the lakers getting no in game reps.
Bron realized the unnecessary pressure this whole "playing together" put on Bronny. This is good to see.
Lebron wanting to play with his son may have been his dream but is it good for bronny, bronny wants to have a career for him self too and not have everything be attached to his dad. I have a son and I may want to do certain things with him or want him to do certain things doesn’t mean he wants to. Ppl always look at it from lebrons side and it always felt like a forced idea for lebron. No one asked bronny what he wants
This is good news
I like this from Lebron more. It would be like going to work with your Father. You’d be viewed as lesser than and a nepo baby. Imagine the team huddles. It’s just a nightmare situation. I’m glad Bron is giving him space to pursue his career his way.
kinda a bit of damage control. Bronny didn't have a great freshman season, so Bron has walked back the comments. However as we saw with Shams' article there are other ways to get the opinion that lebron has out there without taking heat. Overall bronny has options, Transfer to another university or stay at USC... if he chooses to go to the draft he will be picked up by LA somehow. I think it was the right move to let bronny make his choice.
Damn this is pretty crazy - Woj outing his source (usually they would say “my sources” They r putting the ball in Jeanie hands - Lebron is looking to sign for 3 years! Wild!
It’s good for this to come out now, so the front office can start looking at planning around him being here.
He's like, we will pay the Spurs to pick him.
Wow another 2-3yr contract
Good, because his kid sucks.
That’s too much pressure on Bronny, especially as a LAL and being the son of a generational talent in the NBA. Bronny needs to start his career off in a small/mid market team. A destination like Orlando or Portland sounds right for Bronny. If not in the NBA, stick him to the G-League with the Ignite. LeBron likes Las Vegas and it’s close to LA.
King realized bronny is ass
Never believe Woj. So now he spoke with Rich Paul....I don't trust that lying fucker when it comes to Lebron. The hoe Wojo been a hater of Lebron for damn near 2 decades now....Fuck Wojo and his bloodline.
What does RDAmbition have to say about this
Lmaoo or the other kid arie or something
That would be soo cool. Like In other industries, fathers hire their son to help work and learn the process and the game. Beautiful.
Bronny going to play for Dru at Duquesne wld be a great move. LBJ needs to decide if he needs more than 50 million a year more than another title. Opt in or even better restructure and free up some money.
I've been wanting Bronny to come and play in Australia for a while now. He should be good enough obviously if he's a hope of making the NBA one day, but what you can learn from playing pro ball as opposed to college ball is huge. The knowledge and experience of those on the floor next to you and opposite you is invaluable. He won't skate through just on talent or his name, he'll have to earn his minutes or sit on the bench. He'll have to learn the findamentals, he'll have to defend. He'll also have the benefit of the preparation and recovery of a professional team without having to worry about his grades if he's also juggling study at a college. And from a personal perspective, getting out of his dad's shadow would be huge. He'll play most of the year with his dad not even in the country. No pressure from a big name because the NBL won't really care about LeBron. Unlike the NBA he can't really influence much here. And he also will be able to live as a pretty unrecognisable person. He could walk down the street anonymously.
No thanks. Bronny doesn’t deserve to be drafted based on his talent. He will be taking one of the few available roster spots in the NBA from someone who wouldn’t be nepotism hire.
I wonder why lol
Bronny needs to develop more in college or in the G league.
Bronny should really enter the draft and Lebron should make a real TV show out of this. I’d watch the shit out of it just to follow bronny career. It’s just a trippy experience to have watched most of Lebron James life play out on TV and now we have the opportunity to do it with his son too.
LeBron can retire with the Lakers, go run his team in Vegas, and sign his sons as undrafted free agents.
Bronny working with Phil Handy everyday would be good for him
Lebron said that he wished to play with his son and everyone blew it our of the waters saying that he would go to the team that drafted bronny.
Hope it’s not a max. Does he wanna win or nah?
I don't want Bronny, if we waste a pick on him are we then forced to give him actual minutes so Lebron is happy?
Talk about wasting picks when you already have JHS lol
Brons the goat, I love him. He’s worth $50 million but if he wants to win and help the lakers. Take a pay cut and take a 17-25 million dollar 1 year contract see what Rob can build and trade and assess Bronny and your future after the 2025 season.
Maybe 3 years $100m instead of $50m/yr
A few famous wealthy people in LA that have business connections with bron have said that he is making good money outside the nba by just by living in LA him staying with the lakers is a business move
Bron was annoying. First he sent out tweet about Bronny being better than many NBA players. Then when Bronny started playing at USC and there were comments -- Lebron said not to judge Bronny -- let him play without criticism. I think the best thing for Bronny would be to go to a good college with good coaching and play 2-3 years. Hopefully the hype would die down over time.
Lebron and Jeanie are set to ruin this franchise for lots of years
The Lakers were ruined post Kobe anyway. LBJ came and brought AD and got a title.
Both are bums. F lebron
Damn bro 😂
Let’s draft Bronny and put all in for a third star. As long as we have Bron and AD, we always have a chance for title. We would have to wait for another 10 years if Bron leaves.
Leads me to believe that LeBron doesn’t trust the Lakers to develop him. Which is a fair belief. This team hasn’t been about developing talent since LeBron got here. Reaves was thrown into the fire and Bronny isn’t someone to do that with, imo. Bronny needs a system that’s gonna be patient and let him make mistakes. It’s ultimately why he should go back to college. Look at Max Christie. Just bench sitting. His development has been hindered because he doesn’t get minutes and real time reps.
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Who can the Lakers get that is better than LeBron?
Man, I'm done with the thought of spending more money on a player who will be 40 next season. Yeah, he's the Goat, but there are obvious signs he is slowing down and next season will be more of the same unless he is cut back to 20-30 min/gm. Father Time makes ruin of every athlete in the end.
Im picturing bronny shooting a game winner, bricking it and LeBron just leaving the stadium without acknowledging anyone like he always does lmao
That’s boring
It just sucks that as long as he's a Laker, he will be getting max deals. I understand it from the team perspective with merchandise and ticket sales, but I can't see the team getting any better as long as LBJ is is Purp and Gold.
if Bron was actually serious about winning, he would take at most, $20 mill per year. AT MOST. Dude is gonna be 40. No team should have 75% of their cap space tied down to a 40 year old.
Dudes 40 but still better than 99% of the roster lmao, also him taking a paycut will NOT help their cap space situation. So might as well pay what he wanted or someone else will.
No other team is gonna offer 40 year old Lebron $60 mill per year lmao
2-3 years??? What happens when he decides to hang up his sneaks - what do we get in return? We need assets. I know what Lebron means to the game but let’s blow this shit up and develop some young guns with a New Jack style coach. Build around AD! I think LeBron would be great on the Sixers team with Embiid. I like Reeves, I like Rui, I like Vando- there are some pieces
LBJ will honor his contract. And AD is 30, you trade Bron and AD will walk out. He's not staying in a rebuilding team.
It would be nice if he gave us a pay cut. I much more money does he actually need at this point
Bronny needs development. Stick him in the G League for a couple of years. He isn't ready for the NBA and it would be bad for his development to play him minutes now, or to have him sit on the end of a bench gathering dust. We should have an agreement that we get Bronny and Lebron restructures his deal. That way we can get better help, and he can be with the team when Bronny makes it up here a couple of years from now.
He’s realizing bronny isn’t nba talent and if he wants to play with his son he’s gotta wait for Bryce lmao