D'Antoni playing Earl Clarke over Pau was madness. Something I didn't really get... Mike Brown got fired a few games into that second season when the team was woefully underperforming. Darvin got SO much leeway. Shoulda been gone in the fall.
Made some sense at that time. Pau was really struggling getting up and down the court because plantar fascitis. And was not spacing the floor at all. Ironically, in a few years he was leading the league in 3 point percentage.
Triangle Pau was a horrible fit in D'Antoni's system. Problem was that his back up was Earl fucking Clarke.
All I remember Clarke for is an alley oop slam off of a Kobe lob right before halftime. Then they did the exact same play exactly one year later right before halftime.
Dantoni for letting it happen, and Dwight Howard for essentially quitting on that team. It was an entire mess, and Kobe showed for that season why he is one of the greatest to do it.
Ya, i was one of them. The dude did just deliver a title. Almost everybody said the Westbrook trade was a horrible idea so to blame Vogel was stupid and they should of known that. And who was available to replace him that was better? Ham obviously wasn't. The dude has no ability to do in game adjustments and his defense strategy actually calls for leaving people wide open. Vogel may not be the best offensive mind but dudes is excellent on defense and at least is able to make adjustments.
It was fine to fire Vogel because he was no longer able to effectively coach the team, but that is 80% on the front office for acquiring Westbrick while also letting KCP, Caruso, and hell even Kuz walk, and unfortunately the front office isn’t going to fire itself
Agreed I too didnt like Vogel being the scapegoat they gave a defensive coach zero defensive players besides AD like even worse defensive players than we have now.
Wasn't just Westbrook, there were reports that LeBron wasn't feeling it anymore and that he wasn't getting along with the Klutch guys on thet team. And that was half the team.
He won us a ring, thats all that matters and he deserves his respect. Not his fault the FO decided to dump all our defense and let caruso go in favor of old men and midgets that cant defend
I actually think this is a bit unfair to Mike Brown, D'Antoni, even Byron Scott. And Frank Vogel, obviously. Mike Brown got screwed by the bad chemistry post the CP3 veto, and then again with 2012/13 Dwight and Nash being fools gold, despite expectations...Also, we were a 3 seed that first year and lost to that NBA Finals KD, Russ, Harden, Ibaka Thunder team. Which is more than acceptable in my book.
D'Antoni got screwed by Kobe's Achilles tear. That team was kinda like our current teams, not going to blow you away in the regular season but watch out for us in the post season. I still think a healthy Kobe, Dwight, Pau, and Nash would have run the tables even as an 8. IIRC we were surging at the right time before the tear too. What could have been....
Byron was literally brought in to be a familiar face during Kobe's swan song. He was not supposed to win. He was supposed to placate Kobe while we tanked. Those teams were constructed to be bad.
Frank won a Chip and was unjustly fired because of injuries, panic over a perceived big 3 that I always felt was clearly never going to work, never won anything and fizzled out right on schedule, and as a scapegoat for maybe the worst trade in Lakers franchise history. Justice for Frank Vogel.
The biggest problem with D'Antoni was he ran an offense designed for a prime Steve Nash while having a ancient and broken Steve Nash. All while having two amazing big guys that had no ability to succeed in that offense anyway. It should have been Phil that year running the triangle and the season would have probably gone very differently.
And remember Luke Walton was the golden boy.
Former laker favorite that was an interim coach with GSW when curry, klay, dray were in their prime and they had Barnes, bogut,
Barbosa, iggy… and won 73.
Turns out it’s wasn’t that hard to do.
My unpopular opinion is that Luke is actually a fine coach but I'm not prepared to die on that hill. He had 2 seasons of bringing up the kids and had to deal with the whole D'lo-Nick Young situation so the energy was clearly fucked there. And I will forever maintain that the sky was the limit on the 18/19 season if Bron, Rondo, BI, and Lonzo stay healthy.
He gets a bad wrap for those Kings teams too. Lotta exciting fools gold on those rosters.
Yeah, Kobe ran Kobe into the ground. He played 274 of 288 possible minutes in the six games before the tear. And he was already so injured going into that stretch most wouldn’t even consider playing.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29018331/from-archives-brutal-stretch-leading-kobe-bryant-achilles-tear-2013
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. That's what made Kobe, Kobe. But in retrospect, you prevent Kobe from tearing his Achilles even if it meant missing the playoffs.
1000% but devils advocate, he also kind of had to. We were constructed with the idea of Steve running the floor and elevating everyone, as he did, and then he played like what, 5 games for us? And back injury or not, Dwight just didn't show up and wanted to coast.
Phil Jackson was an established winner when he was brought in after the Lakers had some coaching duds during the first few years of Shaq and Kobe. This front office should’ve taken the same approach vs a rookie head coach
He wasn't. He got fired trying to fix the team's biggest problem. Kobe even signed off on running the Princeton offense. It wasn't his fault Mitch and Jim saddled him with a bunch of geriatrics that couldn't defend for shit.
Recent COTY mike brown is terrible?
Mitch/jim gave dantoni an old slow big-heavy group. He showed he was still a good coach in Houston after us.
Clearly Vogel was a-okay
We’ve hired fine, we’re just impatient and need a scapegoat when we don’t get instant gratification.
Giving the wrong roster to the wrong coach
If dantoni and Byron flipped rosters, it would’ve looked much better.
Luke had us 4th in the west before lebron went down. His “trash” years were with a tanking roster
We gave Vogel 2 ideal rosters for him and he made it work.
Tbf Vogel was a good coach, like not great but above average, I really believe we would’ve ended up the 5th seed or better if he was coaching this year.
Also I believe it would’ve been a relatively easy repeat without Solomon Hill dive on Bron, that would be 2 consecutive years for Vogel as a champion coach
Frank Vogel was a good coach. He lost the locker room trying to get Westbrook under control but he's exactly what we need to be honest. He is a defensive mastermind who is capable of adjustments.
Those teams were ass though until AD and LeBron, hence all the high draft picks like Lonzo, DLo, Julius Randle, Brandon Ingram, Jordan Clarkson, all of them turned out to be good picks though gotta give credit
Vogel and Dantoni were fine. They are at least NBA level head coaches. Brown has improved, but he was azz and not ready when he was a Laker.
The rest of that list... ... ... ..
Coaching is just not easy. Mike Brown has gotten better after GS, while Vogel has probably gotten worse due to his offensive coaching. Sometimes, it just doesn't work like LeBron' first year under Spo.
The difference is the Front Office/organization the Lakers have. The organization doesn't seem to have the right talent off the court that translates to wins and consistency for the team
I know the Lakers have had success in recent years, but I worry that they could become the Manchester United of the NBA. Is it the coaches or is there something that stinks in the organization?
I think the Lakers are light years behind other teams when it comes to analytics. Their business plan seems to be "We have Lebron and we are the Lakers, so people will show up and we will be decent enough"
There's no killer instinct in the organization, and Lebron seems to have too much control over personnel decisions, including the coach.
Honestly I thought MDA didn’t do as bad as the win% shows.
I mean he maximized one of those rosters where we had Kendall Marshall near the top of the league in assists? I might be remembering wrong. But I kinda liked his teams post-Kobe/Pau/D12/Nash.
All the coaches were that bad. You can’t compare one of the greatest ever to do it to these guys. It makes it look a lot worse than it is. It is like comparing an wagyu to sirloin. Have to compare to other sirloin.
Huh? All these coaches have their pros and cons, but only two of them were "bad":
1. Walton
2. Ham
The rest were good, but just eventually didn't fit. After all, the average tenure for an NBA coach is about 2.4 years.
The only one I felt bad for was Mike Brown. It was reported that he was up late watching game videos preparing for the next game when he was notified or found out he had been fired. He was known to be a hard working coach. Glad he found a home in Sacramento and hope he stays there for a long while.
Terrible coaches? Or terrible luck/teams? I think we let the name carry too much weight at the times.
Yes, “Lakers”, but most of those teams would not been contenders no matter who was coaching.
Since leaving, Mike Brown has done a good job with the Kings. Byron Scott is a former coach of the year. Frank Vogel won a championship with the Lakers in 2020 and was a finalist for coach of the year in 2014 as well. D’Antoni is a two time coach of the year.
Brown and D’Antoni took over a team of star players past their prime and who didn’t fit well.
Byron Scott took over during Kobe’s last couple of years with a roster full of outcasts and 20 year olds.
Frank Vogel should never have been fired, but the front office let Russell Westbrook, out of all people, dictate a coaching change.
Not a single coach would have been able to carry any of the 2013-2018 teams to a championship.
Time to pay up. How long we gonna max HOF players to come play for an amateur coach on a measly contract.
Coaching doesn’t affect salary cap, so it’s time to pay up, or even Overpay for an actual good coach with proven record. I’m beginning to think we need to look overseas because there are just no great coaches available here right now.
It’s incredible how the best team (franchise) in the league can’t get a decent coach in 10 years, i get that we didn’t have the best roaster some of those years but damn
I think it has more to do with how bad the roster has been, personally. Byron Scott was notably behind the curve as an NBA head coach, but a lot of these guys were helming rebuilds, so it's difficult to draw too many conclusions from it. I think that if you have a team you can grade on a scale of 1-10, the coach is worth 2 of those points at their absolute best. As with Gregg Popovich's Spurs over the last decade, when the roster is a 4/10, even the very best head coach just makes you a 6/10 on the high end, and that still isn't gonna win too many games. Darvin Ham was probably a 0 or close to it, though, and Mike D'Antoni was the worst possible coach for what was built as a half-court offensive team.
So to me this is more on the FO than the coach.
Shout out to Bernie with that .800 win percentage.
The real cap who left when he was up
Weekend at Bernie’s
I think there was a win vs the Suns at home in there that I still have on a hard drive somewhere…
D'Antoni playing Earl Clarke over Pau was madness. Something I didn't really get... Mike Brown got fired a few games into that second season when the team was woefully underperforming. Darvin got SO much leeway. Shoulda been gone in the fall.
Bro. He coached everyday to chants of We Want Phil! We Want Phil!
We DID want Phil.
we did
Yea, and ownership gave us the guy on the cover of Pringles….
Made some sense at that time. Pau was really struggling getting up and down the court because plantar fascitis. And was not spacing the floor at all. Ironically, in a few years he was leading the league in 3 point percentage. Triangle Pau was a horrible fit in D'Antoni's system. Problem was that his back up was Earl fucking Clarke.
All I remember Clarke for is an alley oop slam off of a Kobe lob right before halftime. Then they did the exact same play exactly one year later right before halftime.
D’antoni was just a bad fit for the roster we had at that time imo
I will never forgive dantoni
For taking Kobe’s achilles from us?
YUP
Never forgive. Never forget.
Without that dumb bastard we would have got that amazing version of Kobe for at least a few more years, he’d be the one with 40k points right now.
Dantoni for letting it happen, and Dwight Howard for essentially quitting on that team. It was an entire mess, and Kobe showed for that season why he is one of the greatest to do it.
The Clark Knight was goated for like a straight month lol
The Lakers have had some pretty bad teams since Phil Jackson left
Vogel was fine...
His firing was a major overreaction
The franchise (FO, maybe Bron and AD) really chose Brick over him 😒
The fanbase was all but rioting for his firing… don’t act like it’s on Rob or the players 😂
Lol the fanbase has zero say or effect on front office decisions or Caruso would still be a Laker. How stupid.
For real, nobody in the fanbase was calling for us to pay THT and pass on Caruso. If they really listened to us, he'd still be on this team.
Not every Lakers fan wanted Vogel fired, it was a pretty 50/50 split from what I remember from that time
Ya, i was one of them. The dude did just deliver a title. Almost everybody said the Westbrook trade was a horrible idea so to blame Vogel was stupid and they should of known that. And who was available to replace him that was better? Ham obviously wasn't. The dude has no ability to do in game adjustments and his defense strategy actually calls for leaving people wide open. Vogel may not be the best offensive mind but dudes is excellent on defense and at least is able to make adjustments.
It was fine to fire Vogel because he was no longer able to effectively coach the team, but that is 80% on the front office for acquiring Westbrick while also letting KCP, Caruso, and hell even Kuz walk, and unfortunately the front office isn’t going to fire itself
Agreed I too didnt like Vogel being the scapegoat they gave a defensive coach zero defensive players besides AD like even worse defensive players than we have now.
I wasn't on twitter or anything but it was closer to 95/5 on here lol.
Yes parts of the fanbase also suck
I totally agree, most of the post here were Fired Vogel. Either we have short memory or another fans were writing here.
He lost the locker room. Turned into a good coach, bad fit situation even though it wasn't at first. D'Antoni wasn't bad either. Was also a bad fit.
He lost Westbrook, not the locker room.
Wasn't just Westbrook, there were reports that LeBron wasn't feeling it anymore and that he wasn't getting along with the Klutch guys on thet team. And that was half the team.
I agree he’s a decent coach, but he had to be fired after he lost the locker room. Sucks that he was the scapegoat
He won us a ring, thats all that matters and he deserves his respect. Not his fault the FO decided to dump all our defense and let caruso go in favor of old men and midgets that cant defend
You mean Vogel WITH Jason Kidd on the bench was fine.
They didn't give the man the type of players that fit him and got mad when he lost games
Had a championship with Vogel.
They made a horrible trade for Westbrook and Frank Vogel had to be their scapegoat when it predictably didn't work out.
I actually think this is a bit unfair to Mike Brown, D'Antoni, even Byron Scott. And Frank Vogel, obviously. Mike Brown got screwed by the bad chemistry post the CP3 veto, and then again with 2012/13 Dwight and Nash being fools gold, despite expectations...Also, we were a 3 seed that first year and lost to that NBA Finals KD, Russ, Harden, Ibaka Thunder team. Which is more than acceptable in my book. D'Antoni got screwed by Kobe's Achilles tear. That team was kinda like our current teams, not going to blow you away in the regular season but watch out for us in the post season. I still think a healthy Kobe, Dwight, Pau, and Nash would have run the tables even as an 8. IIRC we were surging at the right time before the tear too. What could have been.... Byron was literally brought in to be a familiar face during Kobe's swan song. He was not supposed to win. He was supposed to placate Kobe while we tanked. Those teams were constructed to be bad. Frank won a Chip and was unjustly fired because of injuries, panic over a perceived big 3 that I always felt was clearly never going to work, never won anything and fizzled out right on schedule, and as a scapegoat for maybe the worst trade in Lakers franchise history. Justice for Frank Vogel.
The biggest problem with D'Antoni was he ran an offense designed for a prime Steve Nash while having a ancient and broken Steve Nash. All while having two amazing big guys that had no ability to succeed in that offense anyway. It should have been Phil that year running the triangle and the season would have probably gone very differently.
And remember Luke Walton was the golden boy. Former laker favorite that was an interim coach with GSW when curry, klay, dray were in their prime and they had Barnes, bogut, Barbosa, iggy… and won 73. Turns out it’s wasn’t that hard to do.
My unpopular opinion is that Luke is actually a fine coach but I'm not prepared to die on that hill. He had 2 seasons of bringing up the kids and had to deal with the whole D'lo-Nick Young situation so the energy was clearly fucked there. And I will forever maintain that the sky was the limit on the 18/19 season if Bron, Rondo, BI, and Lonzo stay healthy. He gets a bad wrap for those Kings teams too. Lotta exciting fools gold on those rosters.
I agree but d antoni ran kobe into the ground
He absolutely did not. Kobe literally refused to leave the floor while D’Antoni begged him to get some rest.
Yeah, Kobe ran Kobe into the ground. He played 274 of 288 possible minutes in the six games before the tear. And he was already so injured going into that stretch most wouldn’t even consider playing. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29018331/from-archives-brutal-stretch-leading-kobe-bryant-achilles-tear-2013
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. That's what made Kobe, Kobe. But in retrospect, you prevent Kobe from tearing his Achilles even if it meant missing the playoffs.
I watched every minute of that stretch. The Blazers game in Portland especially was magnificent. It’s such a shame how nonexistent the depth was.
1000% but devils advocate, he also kind of had to. We were constructed with the idea of Steve running the floor and elevating everyone, as he did, and then he played like what, 5 games for us? And back injury or not, Dwight just didn't show up and wanted to coast.
Phil Jackson was an established winner when he was brought in after the Lakers had some coaching duds during the first few years of Shaq and Kobe. This front office should’ve taken the same approach vs a rookie head coach
Mike brown .592 wasnt terrible either
That was Kobe going zero dark thirty mode
Do you remember him as coach ??
Didn't he have an injury plagued team lol
He’s the only one in that group that you would want rn. The team he coached for the Lakers were going downhill
He wasn't the best coach back then. If I remember correctly he was a defense orientated coach, after leaving GS he has become a better coach.
He wasn't. He got fired trying to fix the team's biggest problem. Kobe even signed off on running the Princeton offense. It wasn't his fault Mitch and Jim saddled him with a bunch of geriatrics that couldn't defend for shit.
Somebody really tried to argue that we let go of good coaches and used Walton as an example lol
Jeanie loves nepotism hires
Literally every billionaire ever loves nepotism. Wake up sheep.
It's a **BIG** club and you **AIN'T** in it!
I can't fucking stand Mike D'Antoni.
Recent COTY mike brown is terrible? Mitch/jim gave dantoni an old slow big-heavy group. He showed he was still a good coach in Houston after us. Clearly Vogel was a-okay We’ve hired fine, we’re just impatient and need a scapegoat when we don’t get instant gratification.
Mike Brown was here more than a decade ago though. I think he's improved a lot since then. The Princeton offense he ran with us did not look great.
Exactly.. he's not the same coach he was back then. He was legit not good then, and still basically a film room coach. He's much improved.
Yep, we've had good coaching talent...just nobody seems to have been a good fit.
Giving the wrong roster to the wrong coach If dantoni and Byron flipped rosters, it would’ve looked much better. Luke had us 4th in the west before lebron went down. His “trash” years were with a tanking roster We gave Vogel 2 ideal rosters for him and he made it work.
I liked vogel
Should have kept Vogel
Pelinka needs to go next if the next coach doesn't work out
Vogel was a great coach for the Lakers. People forget how fucking good the bubble Lakers were
Tbf Vogel was a good coach, like not great but above average, I really believe we would’ve ended up the 5th seed or better if he was coaching this year. Also I believe it would’ve been a relatively easy repeat without Solomon Hill dive on Bron, that would be 2 consecutive years for Vogel as a champion coach
Vogel was cool.
Bad ownership
Yep, it all stems from the people at the top. As long as they are here this team will never improve
I'm sorry to say this, but we as Lakers fans are spoiled. We may have to go through a real rebuild to be contenders again.
Frank Vogel was a good coach. He lost the locker room trying to get Westbrook under control but he's exactly what we need to be honest. He is a defensive mastermind who is capable of adjustments.
Indictment on ownership than anything else.
Please put some respekt on our tank commander Byron Scott
Let Reddit coach the Lakers
Coach Pockets is gone.
If we never traded championship core for Westbrick, Vogel would have been the coach still, with most probably one more championship on his resume.
Vogel was a good coach. Seeing your championship team get blown up to acquire the vampire didn't help
Those teams were ass though until AD and LeBron, hence all the high draft picks like Lonzo, DLo, Julius Randle, Brandon Ingram, Jordan Clarkson, all of them turned out to be good picks though gotta give credit
Vogel getting fired was always a surprise to me. I think we would have been fine keeping him.
D'Antoni, Brown, & Vogel are actually pretty good. Vogel got particularly screwed after Lebron pushed for Westbrook.
Funny thing is we won one before the Celtics despite all of this
Frank Vogel won a championship, explain to me how he’s a terrible coach again? FOH!
I want walton, scott, and dantoni coaching erased from my head… gosh what a time it was…
Brown has been getting his revenge ever since
Brown has been getting his revenge ever since
Was literally opening up reddit to ask this sub when the last time they were happy with a coach was.
Puke Walton....
Bickerstaff shouldn’t count. Kobe was coaching the team.
Byron and Luke weren’t here for winning. Byron was the tank commander with one goal and he achieved it
Tank commander era. Wow.
Vogel and Dantoni were fine. They are at least NBA level head coaches. Brown has improved, but he was azz and not ready when he was a Laker. The rest of that list... ... ... ..
Wonder what Phil is up to…🤔Bring back Phil Jackson
Byron Scott would've been the goat if the team wouldve just manned up 😤😤😤
Tbf most of our teams were absolute garbage water during that time
Jeannie the common denominator.
Someone remind me why we didn’t just stick with Mike Brown? 71 games?
Mike Freakin Brown had a higher winning percentage than Ham Sammich. lmao
By those stats, Bickerstaff was the best coach, so bring him back!
Coaching is just not easy. Mike Brown has gotten better after GS, while Vogel has probably gotten worse due to his offensive coaching. Sometimes, it just doesn't work like LeBron' first year under Spo. The difference is the Front Office/organization the Lakers have. The organization doesn't seem to have the right talent off the court that translates to wins and consistency for the team
I know the Lakers have had success in recent years, but I worry that they could become the Manchester United of the NBA. Is it the coaches or is there something that stinks in the organization?
I think the Lakers are light years behind other teams when it comes to analytics. Their business plan seems to be "We have Lebron and we are the Lakers, so people will show up and we will be decent enough" There's no killer instinct in the organization, and Lebron seems to have too much control over personnel decisions, including the coach.
Fucking trash
Vogel shouldn't have been fired, Bernie should've been given a chance.
Ty Lue on the way.
Byron caught a bad rap, that was Kobe's retiring years and rebuilding years all at the same time.
Honestly I thought MDA didn’t do as bad as the win% shows. I mean he maximized one of those rosters where we had Kendall Marshall near the top of the league in assists? I might be remembering wrong. But I kinda liked his teams post-Kobe/Pau/D12/Nash.
vogel and brown don't deserve the slander. fuck all them other guys (bernie doesn't count)
Are we really calling Frank vogel terrible now
Watch ppl act like it's all lebrons fault 🤣🤣
All the coaches were that bad. You can’t compare one of the greatest ever to do it to these guys. It makes it look a lot worse than it is. It is like comparing an wagyu to sirloin. Have to compare to other sirloin.
For the majority of my life as a lakers fan we’ve had coaching problems, and ive been a laker fan since birth.
We’re like United without Ferguson or Arsenal after Wenger left
Wow Vogel having 200+ games doesn't feel like that at all
Don’t worry, JJ Redick will save the day!
Let's petition Shaq for Coach, lol.
The people hiring have done a pretty shit job
Dantoni ended Kobe’s career
You spelled General Manager wrong
Pringles is actually a good coach but a bad fit for our roster at the time
Memories. This sub was such a chill place during Tank Commanders tenure. Never got tired of that dumb meme.
Mike Brown with the best winning percentage.
True but there are good ones in that list tho lol
Let’s see Phil Jackson’s win percentage.
If they sign JJ that is on Bron’s payroll, I’ll give up. Jeannie please has some pride.
We won with vogle tho
What about Rudy Tomjanovich?
Mike D'Antoni was decent
Vogel was not a bad coach.
Huh? All these coaches have their pros and cons, but only two of them were "bad": 1. Walton 2. Ham The rest were good, but just eventually didn't fit. After all, the average tenure for an NBA coach is about 2.4 years.
this fanbase (or at least, subreddit) is so cringe, constantly blaming coaching. smh
The only one I felt bad for was Mike Brown. It was reported that he was up late watching game videos preparing for the next game when he was notified or found out he had been fired. He was known to be a hard working coach. Glad he found a home in Sacramento and hope he stays there for a long while.
Terrible coaches? Or terrible luck/teams? I think we let the name carry too much weight at the times. Yes, “Lakers”, but most of those teams would not been contenders no matter who was coaching. Since leaving, Mike Brown has done a good job with the Kings. Byron Scott is a former coach of the year. Frank Vogel won a championship with the Lakers in 2020 and was a finalist for coach of the year in 2014 as well. D’Antoni is a two time coach of the year. Brown and D’Antoni took over a team of star players past their prime and who didn’t fit well. Byron Scott took over during Kobe’s last couple of years with a roster full of outcasts and 20 year olds. Frank Vogel should never have been fired, but the front office let Russell Westbrook, out of all people, dictate a coaching change. Not a single coach would have been able to carry any of the 2013-2018 teams to a championship.
At least Frank won a ring
Bryon Scott 🫣
Bryon Scott 🫣
Bryon Scott 🫣
We literally won a chip with vogel
Vogel was good, we did him dirty
The Buss family needs to go. It will never happen, but they’re the problem.
Bernie 2024
Bring back Bernie
Where the hell is Luke Walton now? What a terrible coach we had.
The question is why? Why do we keep picking bad coach? The decision makers internally have problems.
Time to pay up. How long we gonna max HOF players to come play for an amateur coach on a measly contract. Coaching doesn’t affect salary cap, so it’s time to pay up, or even Overpay for an actual good coach with proven record. I’m beginning to think we need to look overseas because there are just no great coaches available here right now.
It’s incredible how the best team (franchise) in the league can’t get a decent coach in 10 years, i get that we didn’t have the best roaster some of those years but damn
All hail the great tank commander Byron Scott that got us the pick for BI which ultimately got us AD 🙇♂️
Most of the teams were 🗑
I think it has more to do with how bad the roster has been, personally. Byron Scott was notably behind the curve as an NBA head coach, but a lot of these guys were helming rebuilds, so it's difficult to draw too many conclusions from it. I think that if you have a team you can grade on a scale of 1-10, the coach is worth 2 of those points at their absolute best. As with Gregg Popovich's Spurs over the last decade, when the roster is a 4/10, even the very best head coach just makes you a 6/10 on the high end, and that still isn't gonna win too many games. Darvin Ham was probably a 0 or close to it, though, and Mike D'Antoni was the worst possible coach for what was built as a half-court offensive team. So to me this is more on the FO than the coach.