I recently built the blacksmith and the injection points were so bad and noticeable. Wonderful set but such a pita trying to position the bricks the right so they're not seen.
Took a bit of the building experience away from me on that one.
I wonder which factories produce these. They surely must have lots of them and usually the companies don’t own the factories but outsource the production. So far I have been lucky in Germany and didn’t get anything like the pictures I see online.
In the past LEGO parts sat longer in the mould to cool before being taken off the sprue, now they are shooting them out faster and not letting them cool as long hence the white spots on the injection points getting larger.
Injection marks on the side of tiles is relatively new in the overall scheme of things. I don't remember exactly when I started noticing them (it coincides generally with the increase in visible marks and the heightened severity of already visible ones), but I checked a 2x1 tile from a 2013 set that was handy just to have evidence for the comment and they were on the underside at the time.
I'm currently building the Helicarrier (76042) which is from 2015 to 2017 and there are zero visible sprue marks on the tiles and on most pieces.
It's been a very long time since I've built a set that old but it's shocking now how poor Lego quality is compared to then.
Interesting. I wonder if that affects how long the mold lasts? I'd be curious because I have this funny feeling that the warm and soft sprue break actually causes more wear as counter intuitive as it sounds.
I was shook when I started building the Old Fishing Store set I bought on eBay and my habit of “rotate all the pieces to hide the injection point” from new sets was…irrelevant. The small pieces don’t have them! I can just place them however I want. Took me multiple bags in to truly believe my eyes
It’s bad, but price has nothing to do with it. Lego doesn’t have price-driven tiers of quality, like a $250 Barad Dur being lower quality than a $450 Barad Dur. These pieces are just what Lego is currently putting out, regardless of price. We don’t expect higher quality for a higher price because the higher price is just for more bricks, not for better molds.
Price absolutely has something to do with it. Price per brick may be what drives set costs, but Price per brick should also be related to brick *quality*.
Pricepoints have nothing to do with cost and are entirely driven by consumer demand.
You could buy 1000 pieces of ABS beads for that are similar weight to lego for like $15. But people would pay a lot more for it if it were lego.
This is called "Value-based" pricing.
Bought barad dur and a lot of Harry Potter and the same goes for the other themes new sets, chipped bricks, larger injection points. It’s annoying when u spend Lego money expecting legos “standards”
Lego hasn’t been run by the family since 2004 because Kjeld Kirk Kristiansen almost bankrupted the company. They did change CEOs in 2017, but it’s still external to the family
Legos standard on these things are bad since a few years. Constant scratches on any "glass" pieces, mismatching colours everywhere especially grey, bad molding. Lego is not the gold standard anymore.
I sent Lego a replacement request with an email attached. Also complaining on social media is a great way to bring this situation to light, especially since Lego has been listening to fans recently regarding big wants with sets that are usually discussed online much like this.
You do realize Lego standards are effectively worse than many other brick companies these days? From color mismatches to an overload of stickers (even in very expensive USC sets), injection points in the middle of prints, often bad print quality, all the colours under the rainbow inside a set and frequently visible from the outside... I could go on. Lego is not the quality leader anymore, not for a long time, and it's time we adapt to that. They only lead in brand recognition, holding licences and pricing.
Cobi and cada come to mind. They have excellent quality in my experience. Still look up reviews for individual sets though and don't just take my word for it.
Kind of unrelated, but has anyone EVER gotten a clear window/windshield/cockpit piece without any imperfections? I swear, they all have either scratches or stretch marks or rub marks on them on all new sets. I have yet to see an actually fully clear/pristine clear piece.
Several years ago they switched what plastic they used for transparent elements to something that has a closer shrink rate to ABS so they could use the same molds for both standard parts and transparent (there might’ve been a cost benefit as well) the noted downside of this change is this material scratches way easier than the plastic they were using before hand. So we got more elements in transparent colors than we ever did before and they’re all scratch to hell!
My cockpit windshield from 76193 doesn’t seem to have any issues that I can find. It’s see through but it’s purple, so not sure if it’s the type of clear you were speaking of.
Honestly I’ve seen a lot of denial on this sub about LEGO’s drop in quality- some have their head in the sand. Yes, there’s always been issues such as brittle brown, but that was due to pigment formulas etc. while today the issue is cost cutting.
Chipped bricks, injection mold marks, color difference in identical bricks, The current quality control would have been unacceptable standards for the LEGO Group 10 years ago.
I stopped due to life for about 10 years between 2010 - 2020.
When i started buying again in 2020 i was shocked by how badly the quality had deteriorated.
Now I’m just used to it, Ive become the sucker the lego group loves 😂
That's when I got back into Lego as an adult and I feel like it was the best time for it as an adult fan. You had so many different big sets under Creator Expert and other themes like Ghostbusters, Marvel, DC, Jurassic Park, The Simpsons, etc. But Lego hadn't started fully leaning into the adult market the way they have now. Prices and set sizes were still reasonable. You could get things like Big Ben or the Ferris Wheel for under £200. We still had appealing box art that was right for the set instead of dull low effort black boxes that are just an excuse to bump up the price because it's a "collectors item" now.
I love posts like these. You have a legitimate grief. They are probably using cheaper plastic that is softer and chipping.
Make your grief. It’s valid. But then you throw in the whole “God damn paper bags” and completely invalidate yourself, people ignore you and Lego gets away with using shittier products and nothing changes.
Stay on topic. You’ll be more successful that way.
Damn, not only are the sets getting more expensive, but they're bringing down the quality to cut costs as well. It's like they're giving us two middle fingers.
Nope. I switched to buying used older sets.
Also started using GoBricks. The Lego purity lost its meaning when the quality got worse than the cheaper alternative.
I wonder if they aren’t using cheaper plastic, but they are trying new “environmentally friendly” formulations for their LEGO pieces. This being said, I have several sets with plants from plants pieces and I haven’t noticed any softness or significant decrease in quality with those pieces.
Yeah. That was what I was saying. Changes to the type of plastic being used don’t have to lead to a decrease in quality as I pointed out with the plant plastics.
What about the formulations makes it more environmentally friendly? fewer nasty chemicals in the process?
or is it concern with the bricks breaking down and becoming litter?
In the bonsai set the booklet explained it. They were using the same chemicals, but sourcing them from plants instead of fossil fuels, something like that.
I think the best way to push back against it is simply by remembering Lego’s supposed motto:
‘Only the best is good enough.’
And openly asking both them and ourselves if that’s still true, or if they’re not only slowly screwing their customers but also actively betraying one of the core principles that built the company.
>Lego gets away with using shittier products and nothing changes.
It's what happens when a company has held a dominant position in a market for decades. How do you make more money when your product has already achieved maximum saturation?
You cut costs. Or you do that thing that Meta is doing where you keep throwing the same idea against the wall and act surprised every time it doesn't stick. But cutting costs is usually the safer bet.
And because there aren't many compelling alternatives in the building toy space, people will buy more lego regardless of the quality.
Honestly the alternative brands bricks seem about equal in quality now. They are still behind in minifig quality but it's getting closer and Lego hasn't improved much in years. It's getting harder and harder to justify paying four times as much.
Actually many large corporations justify exploitive cost cutting via these “green” maneuvers. Eg: Many canned water companies market themselves as the greener option compared to plastic water bottles, but most people don’t know that all aluminum cans have an inner plastic liner. Also moving to recycled/plant plastics for lego may be actually be more harmful in the long run because less-durable legos will just incentivize more trash/chemicals and thus more purchases. The simple fact is most “environmentally friendly/recycled” materials are almost always going to be less durable in the long run (but still useful for disposable things like straws). Lots of data backs this up.
When you understand this framing, you discover its more complex than “lego switching to paper bags=good” because we could later discover the ink used to dye the paper on the new bags is a forever chemical that poisons water supplies at a higher rate than the current undyed thin plastic bags. Thats just one hypothetical of many. There are still many questions when it comes to environmental science because the systems are so complex, and while we should actively continue pushing towards a more sustainable future, we also need to acknowledge most of the current actions being done by big corps are with a goal of marketing, profits, and signaling rather than ethics.
> Eg: Many canned water companies market themselves as the greener option compared to plastic water bottles, but most people don’t know that all aluminum cans have an inner plastic liner.
I love this intellectually dishonest move of stopping *just* short of stating an argument, but then merely *implying* a conclusion that wouldn’t actually follow if you had brought the thought to its logical end.
Yes, of course aluminium cans have a thin plastic liner. It is burned off when the cans are melted down during recycling. It’s not perfect, but given that aluminium is almost infinitely recyclable, and recycled aluminium is orders of magnitude less environmentally harmful than extracting oil to make plastic or mining bauxite to produce virgin aluminium, it’s infinitely better than the alternatives.
Additionally, most plastic is not recyclable, and even plastic types that are recycleable often aren’t recycled in practice, because it is not economically feasible to do so (it’s usually cheaper to produce virgin plastic than to recycle it) — in stark contrast to aluminum, which has an extremely high recycling rate). Making things even worse is that even in cases where plastic *is* recycled, it’s often downcycled into a lower-grade material, i.e. those cheap, thin plastic bottles don’t get recycled back into plastic bottles, they get turned into stuff like rope, which can’t be subsequently recycled and ends up in the landfill.
So yeah, using aluminium cans instead of plastic bottles *is* significantly greener. Given how misinformed you are on this point, it’s kind of difficult to take any of your other points seriously.
Speaking of, one of my favorite small town Cafes uses the inexpensive food truck brand styrofoam cups for the working guys who want a to-go drink with lunch. The cups have a little blurb on them about how the styrofoam cup puts something like 40% less trash in landfills compared to a similar size paper cup*.
*By weight
Again. I’m not saying you are wrong. But you are clearly on a soapbox here and getting off topic.
The plastic and paper conversations are two separate conversations/issues.
By throwing them both out together, nothing gets done. It’s too complex. Stay on topic. One thing and one thing only.
Also before anyone replies with “no no no I know these specific plastic bags are worse because xyz” trust me this stuff is not settled science. Yes plastic is worse than paper but it is way more nuanced than you think. Also here is a clip from Lego’s webpage about sustainability, note how the inner plastic “bag” remains on the paper packaging: “ Since 2022 we are using paper-based packaging for our LEGO® baseplates, which used to be wrapped in single-use plastic. The packaging is made from paper with a thin plastic coating on the inside, which enables sealing of the packaging and helps protect the product.”
Not sure what the quality assurance department of Lego is doing, but they lack quality with many bricks and colours nowadays. It really becomes an issue when other European and even Chinese alternative building block manufacturers have more consistent quality than the original inventor company. And we are at this point at the moment with more and more sets. Which is absurd with Legos prices. If they ever decrease so much in quality that they lose big licenses like star wars or harry potter to competitors, shit will really hit the fan for them. Although they are probably safe with the licenses as long as they hold the mini figure design copyright.
In two bags I found 8 damaged pieces.
Little theory here:
40 bags lets say 4 damaged pieces per bag=is 160 damaged bricks.
**option 1** - build it bag by bag and IF there is damaged pieces, order new ones. Then I have to wait few days to get them and build. Not a good option right? The build would be like 3+months project
**option 2 -** build it all, document all pieces and order them after. Well, I dont know about you, but I wouldn't go back and replace damaged bricks with new ones. Too tedious
Document it all, as building, and get the replacement pieces for your own collection for other projects- and lego has on file replacing 160 pieces. Leave a review on the actual lego website for the set complaining about the quality, too.
We either lose the free replacements the more people do this, or they fix the quality issues (negative reviews impacting sales and bulk of replacement pieces costing way more than the returns on the cut corners in production)
It doesn’t take too long for replacement pieces.
Honestly I would say to put in for all the replacements, and even offer to send the damaged bricks back as substantial proof.
Then when you get the replacements use that order and contact info to reach out to them personally about it as well.
But this would only work in getting them to stop the crap if EVERYONE with bad pieces did it.
This never happened just a couple decades ago... I've noticed weird oil slick type effects on black parts, blurry/faint prints on minifigs, glaring and ugly mold marks, and parts that arrive damaged or become damaged with very little use. LEGO has really taken a nosedive on their quality lately.
This makes me wonder — why did I decide to go back to Lego just now. When I'm adult. When I see all the things Lego does nowadays, worse quality, overpriced sets for adults with stable income, desirable gifts with purchase. With the fanbase being in a state it is. When retired sets usually double in price on the aftermarket. Why now? Why do I still care?
We just want the sweet, brief taste of serotonin that Lego provides us for one fleeting moment until the harsh reality of adulthood kicks in again. :^)
Honestly, there's so much more to LEGO than official "adult" sets.
Build that town you never could as a kid. Bricklink a really cool plane/train/car model. Grab a random Creator 3-in-1 set and see if you can make something you like better than the box art assembly.
Or hell, go third-party if you really want to just build an adult set. It's disappointing that some things have slipped in quality, but there are other options out there that are still great.
I still own all the sets I've had as a kid, but I'm considering selling some of them (SpongeBob and Minecraft). My favorite thing about Lego is MOC building, but I've never bought any pieces from Bricklink. I mostly just use the ones I already have. I may consider finding some cool models on rebrickable.
I mostly enjoy LEGO for nostalgic reasons. My collection is almost entirely made of parts from the 90s, 2000s, and very early 2010s. I do a lot of mocs as well. Most of my purchases involve Bricklink orders for a specific creation rather than a set.
I'd really like a 90s space collection, but the prices are quite high, especially for an unopened box. I might try just piecing some of the sets.
Despite growing out in the 2000s and early to middle 2010s, I don't feel particularly nostalgic towars sets or themes of that era. Like, I wouldn't collect an entire City wave, perhaps a few sets from Atlantis or Power Miners, maybe Indiana Jones. And even though I love Star Wars, absolutely not those sets
I feel lucky to have got back into Lego 2010-ish. There were some really cool sets like 5984, super affordable, and more adult sets like 10193 and 10197. All of those were cheap enough that I'm happy to have the parts all sorted into my collection. Nowadays, every adult set is getting bigger and more expensive, and I feel like I can't afford to take them apart for MOCs - so I'm lucky to still have my existing piece library.
I'd go so far as to say the golden era for Lego was 2009 to 2017, as that has all my sets plus The Emerald Night. It ends after The Lego Movie brought in all the adult fans, as the flagship set designs are beautiful but the sizes are getting absurd. Ain't no-one breaking down Rivendell for bricks in their collection.
My dark ages were somewhere between 2016 to 2023, so I missed out on a few really great sets, mostly Star Wars ones. Though when it comes to original Lego themes, they weren't plentiful those times and didn't interest me much.
I don't like how nowadays Lego sets fall into one of two categories – either made for kids, I'm generally not interested in them, although I find some of them really neat toys and some even worth buying (I'm mostly talking about City, Friends and Dreamzzz here as I'm not interested in Ninjago these days). The second category is very expensive, huge sets for adults made mostly for display. There are only a few sets that fall into the middle, unfortunately almost exclusively in licensed themes like Star Wars or Speed Champions. Something that is a good display piece, has challenging builds but is also as cheap as a City set.
[MOA003: Maui](http://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=moa003) [[Photo]](http://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/MN/0/moa003.png)
What can I say except "you're welcome"?
Multibillion dollar company, not million.
Their last financial results showed $9.59 billion in revenue and $2.49 billion in operating profit. (Those numbers might be a bit off because they release their figures in Danish krone. I just converted it at the current exchange even though their financials were released in March).
https://www.lego.com/cdn/cs/aboutus/assets/blt7e9167f47da173a6/FINAL_Annual_Report_2023.pdf
Nah if they're gonna continue to tout themselves as a 'Premium' brand they need to be maintaining a premium product. At some point it became cheaper for them to just start throwing free replacement pieces at consumers to keep keep at bay and maintain their image, and for a long time it also basically worked free advertising for their excellent customer service, but IMO it's gotten out of hand.
LMAO
It truly is so weird when people do this. Lego, target, Elon musk. like what are you defending? it's like trying to stop a tank from getting shot by blocking with your unarmored body.
There are a lot of people complaining about the quality, so it gets tiresome to some. Then there's the constant "it's getting worse" without much tangible evidence, since pieces used to do all those things in the past too and nobody is really keeping track bar some anecdotical evidence. And then pictures of 4 corners out of... millions of pieces? We just don't know the context. So there's in the end very little point in complaining to the community: they should address those complaints to LEGO themselves. With time there'll be more evidence, like how some shades of red and brown from certain years are now known to be brittle with age, so maybe the current generation of plastic is softer too (and it could be some colors specifically too).
You are most welcomed!
You can see that the discussion has evolved as well. Now a lot of participants are claiming that it's obvious that they're cutting costs with cheaper plastics... To me it's a weird jump to assume that softer = cheaper, as they might have changed the formula for a number of reasons and softness of plastics can mean less cracking with age/time, which is a huge plus.
The quality of the LEGO bricks themselves have undoubtedly got worse over the past 10-15 years. From the infamous brittle bricks a few years back, to white bricks discolouring within just months, colours of bricks not matching, and scratches, dents and bends in what seems to be softer plastic than in the past. Older bricks from sets in the 90s and such, seem to be a much higher quality and are holding up a lot better.
Over the past week or so, we've opened the Lotus Evija 76907 and some boxes of CMF series 25.
The Lotus has several pieces with dented corners, and one of the CMF figures had dents at the bottom of the torso on both the front and the back.
The quality simply isn't as good as it used to be.
I obviously cant speak for each and every brand, cuz im sure there will be differences. You can check out bluebrixx.com , they have a plethora of brands, themes and sets. Even if yoi dont buy there, its good inspiration
I was thinking the same thing, when I got Jazz Club.
https://preview.redd.it/nz78ggqdo34d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29ebdafc573b1247e73244b102bf5c5af3c9ccec
Wow that's bad. "Only the best is good enough" just flew out the window over the past few years.
Now it's "we're Lego. We own this market. Take what we give you"
First time buying Lego post covid, eh?
I saw posts regarding lowered quality before then, but post covid it's been like minimum once a day. It happens so often now
They're relying on creativity and fun now, not reliability. Between a solid customer service with free replacements and a growing adult fan base, they can literally afford to not give a shit.
AFAIK the plant-based plastic is only used with the plant parts. A couple years back they started looking into recycled plastic and other greener alternatives but a few months ago they announced that ~~the project~~ [**one of the projects invoving making bricks from recycled bottles**](https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/09/25/legos-quest-to-make-recycled-plastic-bricks-has-failed-now-the-toymaker-is-turning-to-e-me) is abandoned due to quality issues.
**EDIT**: clarification and source
I am all for greener stuff and so on, but, lego bricks aren't single-use product like plastic bottle or some silly knick-knack toy that you throw away after few weeks when your kid gets bored of it and that will polute the environment forever.
I have some bricks from 90's and they are still fine. Lego has basically infinite lifespan, as long as you won't damage it physically by chewing or something. There is no need make it out of recycled plastic, if it will shorten the already infinite lifespan. This will only result in more trash overall.
I hadn't heard they abandoned the recycling plastics. That's interesting considering ABS is supposed to be the most recyclable plastic available, if I'm not mistaken?
Just located [a report](https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/09/25/legos-quest-to-make-recycled-plastic-bricks-has-failed-now-the-toymaker-is-turning-to-e-me). It seems that it was the PET bricks (from recycled bottles) project which failed, not the recycling of Lego elements (which are mostly made of ABS). Should have been more clear; will edit the comment above to include this.
Yeah I hate the quality of modern parts. I understand why some people find knock offs to be very close in quality. These are nothing like the 90s pieces I love
Lego doing Lego-things. Cobi etc have a lot better quality with a lot lower prices. Cant await when Lego finally loses its monopoly and have to do good and fair stuff again...
Set 21340 that I just got done building also had a lot of corners like this. It was really disappointing. Quality getting lower and prices going up. Really disheartening way to slowly ruin a hobby
Thank you for this! I posted a while back that I felt that Lego quality had dropped off. I noticed it building the Dune Ornithopter (first lego set I had bought/built in over 40 years). I got downvoted to near oblivion.
Which is frustrating when you feel you are raising a valid concern. I understand downvotes if a post/comment seems hostile but it also makes you reconsider posting anything. Keep on building!
These corner dings are not new. I own various elements that were never released and even those exhibit minor corner damage. Unfortunately, this is something that’s unlikely to be fixed.
This is something I seriously can't wrap my head around. In the past LEGO used to have such a premium quality compared to third party manufacturers. Now better third party manufacturers catch up and LEGO is reducing the quality more and more. With all the hefty price increases, I really do not understand how it is possible that LEGO isn't able to keep its quality standards.
I opens a ucs at at right out of the cardboard shipping box and half of the bags were ripped open by pieces, quality control is definitely lacking at Lego. Also you need to pay 15 cents for a paper bag now at stores and that’s stupid
Dont remember where but i heard or read that quality control gone downhill due to Lego's ramped up production and their obsession with over design.
Which I agree. Their instructions quality gone downhill too due to color issues.
And they couldn't be more expensive. I've had to refuse buying the NASA launch pad set because it costs waaay too much.
My wife has the original Disney castle set. Got when it first came out. Before they switched it to the new set, that same set had more than doubled in price in their store. It's ridiculous.
Yeah I agree and that’s why I’ve stopped collecting LEGO sets since 2018 when they introduced plant based plastic on the Vesta Wind Turbine set. Nowadays I just watch people building on YouTube and save my money.
Ordinarily I would say a ding or two on a few bricks is just bad luck especially on a set with thousands of pieces but these defects are more indicative of some deficiency in the manufacturing process, not random anomalies but indication of injection issues
Yup, they’re letting more and more slide. I had to get two minifig torsos replaced over the past year. No companies perfect, but their QC is sliding from what they claim or people expect it seems. Least they’re great at replacing.
I say we fight back by filing missing piece reports for every scratched glass panel, large injection points, discoloration, or and actually missing pieces to show LEGO that we don't accept the price of inflation
Damn, lego quality is getting even worse. It started with the color inconsistencies, then the mold marks being very visible, and then more and more pieces were warped because they take them out the mold too quickly. I get that they want to produce more bricks in less time, but when it affects the quality of the product, it should not be done. And this is a new problem. How does this even happen? Do they throw the bricks in the bags now? Quality control is just gone I guess.
When I get my Barad-dûr set and see this, I might inform lego customer support and ask if they can replace it with the bricks they show on the package, because we pay a premium price for a premium product, not this third party looking stuff
I guess you could say they're *cutting corners*
Thats a good one :)
Only studs make good Lego puns.
George: *Holes! I need holes!*
*Stanley Yelnats enters the chat*
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ... *YEEEEAAAHHH*
Yeah, it's got everyone *bent out of shape*
Why do I see Shrek saying this in Mike Myers voice?
The injection mold points have also become very annoying. That’s what I originally expected you to be complaining about.
It has been getting pretty bad, have to position pieces to not show the injection points. These are especially bad.
I recently built the blacksmith and the injection points were so bad and noticeable. Wonderful set but such a pita trying to position the bricks the right so they're not seen. Took a bit of the building experience away from me on that one.
injection points looks like off brand made not even real lego anymore LEGO should be ashamed to get this tru QC
I wonder which factories produce these. They surely must have lots of them and usually the companies don’t own the factories but outsource the production. So far I have been lucky in Germany and didn’t get anything like the pictures I see online.
Lego has several new factories across different regions. I wonder if certain regions, with newer factories are affected more than others?
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I bought the dremmzzz horse set and every single smooth peices and slope was scratched
How did they avoid the injection marks in the past?
In the past LEGO parts sat longer in the mould to cool before being taken off the sprue, now they are shooting them out faster and not letting them cool as long hence the white spots on the injection points getting larger.
And the used to be underneath all the tiles instead of top or on the sides
Tiles have had sprue marks on the sides for as long as I can remember
Injection marks on the side of tiles is relatively new in the overall scheme of things. I don't remember exactly when I started noticing them (it coincides generally with the increase in visible marks and the heightened severity of already visible ones), but I checked a 2x1 tile from a 2013 set that was handy just to have evidence for the comment and they were on the underside at the time.
I'm currently building the Helicarrier (76042) which is from 2015 to 2017 and there are zero visible sprue marks on the tiles and on most pieces. It's been a very long time since I've built a set that old but it's shocking now how poor Lego quality is compared to then.
Also some tiles had them inside rather than on one side.
Interesting. I wonder if that affects how long the mold lasts? I'd be curious because I have this funny feeling that the warm and soft sprue break actually causes more wear as counter intuitive as it sounds.
Don't worry. They don't know what they are talking about.
I’ve suspected something similar as I found large plates were bulging outwards when I was building the ucs star destroyer
The 1x1 clips are the most egregious.
Wanting to point them one way, only to realise it needs to be a specific way in order for it to connect, gets on my nerves
I was shook when I started building the Old Fishing Store set I bought on eBay and my habit of “rotate all the pieces to hide the injection point” from new sets was…irrelevant. The small pieces don’t have them! I can just place them however I want. Took me multiple bags in to truly believe my eyes
They're called gates
Injection point is a far better layman term
That’s really bad for a $460 brand new set
It’s bad, but price has nothing to do with it. Lego doesn’t have price-driven tiers of quality, like a $250 Barad Dur being lower quality than a $450 Barad Dur. These pieces are just what Lego is currently putting out, regardless of price. We don’t expect higher quality for a higher price because the higher price is just for more bricks, not for better molds.
Price absolutely has something to do with it. Price per brick may be what drives set costs, but Price per brick should also be related to brick *quality*.
I think you are confusing “should be” and “is” which aren’t interchangeable.
Don't smaller sets have a higher price per piece? According to this philosophy, smaller sets should be of higher quality.
Pricepoints have nothing to do with cost and are entirely driven by consumer demand. You could buy 1000 pieces of ABS beads for that are similar weight to lego for like $15. But people would pay a lot more for it if it were lego. This is called "Value-based" pricing.
Bought barad dur and a lot of Harry Potter and the same goes for the other themes new sets, chipped bricks, larger injection points. It’s annoying when u spend Lego money expecting legos “standards”
The more pieces the more mistakes you're paying for basically. it absolutely sucks
Trust me ever since the other brother took over everything's gotten cheaper
Do you know when that was?
Lego hasn’t been run by the family since 2004 because Kjeld Kirk Kristiansen almost bankrupted the company. They did change CEOs in 2017, but it’s still external to the family
Legos standard on these things are bad since a few years. Constant scratches on any "glass" pieces, mismatching colours everywhere especially grey, bad molding. Lego is not the gold standard anymore.
So will you just be complaining on reddit or are you sending it back? Because if it doesn't hit them in the money, they will never improve it.
I sent Lego a replacement request with an email attached. Also complaining on social media is a great way to bring this situation to light, especially since Lego has been listening to fans recently regarding big wants with sets that are usually discussed online much like this.
Noo they'll improve it because they are very kind and ethical people that care so much for their customer's satisfaction
You do realize Lego standards are effectively worse than many other brick companies these days? From color mismatches to an overload of stickers (even in very expensive USC sets), injection points in the middle of prints, often bad print quality, all the colours under the rainbow inside a set and frequently visible from the outside... I could go on. Lego is not the quality leader anymore, not for a long time, and it's time we adapt to that. They only lead in brand recognition, holding licences and pricing.
Very helpful of you to not mention the name of even a single other alternative.
Cobi and cada come to mind. They have excellent quality in my experience. Still look up reviews for individual sets though and don't just take my word for it.
Kind of unrelated, but has anyone EVER gotten a clear window/windshield/cockpit piece without any imperfections? I swear, they all have either scratches or stretch marks or rub marks on them on all new sets. I have yet to see an actually fully clear/pristine clear piece.
All cockpit pieces have had scratches for me
yup. kind of a bummer when they're always crucial pieces.
Several years ago they switched what plastic they used for transparent elements to something that has a closer shrink rate to ABS so they could use the same molds for both standard parts and transparent (there might’ve been a cost benefit as well) the noted downside of this change is this material scratches way easier than the plastic they were using before hand. So we got more elements in transparent colors than we ever did before and they’re all scratch to hell!
My cockpit windshield from 76193 doesn’t seem to have any issues that I can find. It’s see through but it’s purple, so not sure if it’s the type of clear you were speaking of.
[76193-1: The Guardians' Ship](https://brickset.com/sets/76193-1) [[Photo]](https://images.brickset.com/sets/images/76193-1.jpg)
My Razorcrest one came unscratched. As did the ornithopter's 4, and most of the windows for the T2 camper.
Damn, you're lucky. My ornithopter all have noticeable nicks and marks on it
Honestly I’ve seen a lot of denial on this sub about LEGO’s drop in quality- some have their head in the sand. Yes, there’s always been issues such as brittle brown, but that was due to pigment formulas etc. while today the issue is cost cutting. Chipped bricks, injection mold marks, color difference in identical bricks, The current quality control would have been unacceptable standards for the LEGO Group 10 years ago.
I stopped due to life for about 10 years between 2010 - 2020. When i started buying again in 2020 i was shocked by how badly the quality had deteriorated. Now I’m just used to it, Ive become the sucker the lego group loves 😂
That's when I got back into Lego as an adult and I feel like it was the best time for it as an adult fan. You had so many different big sets under Creator Expert and other themes like Ghostbusters, Marvel, DC, Jurassic Park, The Simpsons, etc. But Lego hadn't started fully leaning into the adult market the way they have now. Prices and set sizes were still reasonable. You could get things like Big Ben or the Ferris Wheel for under £200. We still had appealing box art that was right for the set instead of dull low effort black boxes that are just an excuse to bump up the price because it's a "collectors item" now.
I recently put together some quite expensive sets and the overall quality felt cheaper than it should have for a real Lego set.
Their designs aren't getting any better either
I’ve had more missing pieces in the last 4 years than ever before too
I love posts like these. You have a legitimate grief. They are probably using cheaper plastic that is softer and chipping. Make your grief. It’s valid. But then you throw in the whole “God damn paper bags” and completely invalidate yourself, people ignore you and Lego gets away with using shittier products and nothing changes. Stay on topic. You’ll be more successful that way.
Damn, not only are the sets getting more expensive, but they're bringing down the quality to cut costs as well. It's like they're giving us two middle fingers.
Wild how none of the paid YouTube shills have not mentioned this
True. That's why I love Jang. He pays for the stuff and always mentions quality issues.
The german YouTube reviewers are ripping Lego a new one in their reviews because of quality issues like this for years already.
*Welt seid mir gegrüßt!*
Well cuz they don't know the price lol they get sets for free and at $0 anything can look like an amazing deal.
The double negative makes this sentence read like they are all mentioning it
Brickzar talked about it two days ago he was snapping new bricks
And we keep buying.
Nope. I switched to buying used older sets. Also started using GoBricks. The Lego purity lost its meaning when the quality got worse than the cheaper alternative.
I wonder if they aren’t using cheaper plastic, but they are trying new “environmentally friendly” formulations for their LEGO pieces. This being said, I have several sets with plants from plants pieces and I haven’t noticed any softness or significant decrease in quality with those pieces.
Those are a different material than the standard ABS used for regular solid bricks
Yeah. That was what I was saying. Changes to the type of plastic being used don’t have to lead to a decrease in quality as I pointed out with the plant plastics.
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Yup, that’s what my post was about. Maybe they are trying out some new formulations of their abs to be more eco friendly as well.
What about the formulations makes it more environmentally friendly? fewer nasty chemicals in the process? or is it concern with the bricks breaking down and becoming litter?
No, it’s an injection issue to make things cheaper. Nothing to do with sustainability.
What about the injection process changes?
In the bonsai set the booklet explained it. They were using the same chemicals, but sourcing them from plants instead of fossil fuels, something like that.
All smooth peices come scratched these days
I think the best way to push back against it is simply by remembering Lego’s supposed motto: ‘Only the best is good enough.’ And openly asking both them and ourselves if that’s still true, or if they’re not only slowly screwing their customers but also actively betraying one of the core principles that built the company.
>Lego gets away with using shittier products and nothing changes. It's what happens when a company has held a dominant position in a market for decades. How do you make more money when your product has already achieved maximum saturation? You cut costs. Or you do that thing that Meta is doing where you keep throwing the same idea against the wall and act surprised every time it doesn't stick. But cutting costs is usually the safer bet. And because there aren't many compelling alternatives in the building toy space, people will buy more lego regardless of the quality.
Honestly the alternative brands bricks seem about equal in quality now. They are still behind in minifig quality but it's getting closer and Lego hasn't improved much in years. It's getting harder and harder to justify paying four times as much.
Maybe I'm confused, but OP didn't say anything about paper bags?
The OP edited his comment and took out the bags complaint.
Aahh gotcha
Actually many large corporations justify exploitive cost cutting via these “green” maneuvers. Eg: Many canned water companies market themselves as the greener option compared to plastic water bottles, but most people don’t know that all aluminum cans have an inner plastic liner. Also moving to recycled/plant plastics for lego may be actually be more harmful in the long run because less-durable legos will just incentivize more trash/chemicals and thus more purchases. The simple fact is most “environmentally friendly/recycled” materials are almost always going to be less durable in the long run (but still useful for disposable things like straws). Lots of data backs this up. When you understand this framing, you discover its more complex than “lego switching to paper bags=good” because we could later discover the ink used to dye the paper on the new bags is a forever chemical that poisons water supplies at a higher rate than the current undyed thin plastic bags. Thats just one hypothetical of many. There are still many questions when it comes to environmental science because the systems are so complex, and while we should actively continue pushing towards a more sustainable future, we also need to acknowledge most of the current actions being done by big corps are with a goal of marketing, profits, and signaling rather than ethics.
> Eg: Many canned water companies market themselves as the greener option compared to plastic water bottles, but most people don’t know that all aluminum cans have an inner plastic liner. I love this intellectually dishonest move of stopping *just* short of stating an argument, but then merely *implying* a conclusion that wouldn’t actually follow if you had brought the thought to its logical end. Yes, of course aluminium cans have a thin plastic liner. It is burned off when the cans are melted down during recycling. It’s not perfect, but given that aluminium is almost infinitely recyclable, and recycled aluminium is orders of magnitude less environmentally harmful than extracting oil to make plastic or mining bauxite to produce virgin aluminium, it’s infinitely better than the alternatives. Additionally, most plastic is not recyclable, and even plastic types that are recycleable often aren’t recycled in practice, because it is not economically feasible to do so (it’s usually cheaper to produce virgin plastic than to recycle it) — in stark contrast to aluminum, which has an extremely high recycling rate). Making things even worse is that even in cases where plastic *is* recycled, it’s often downcycled into a lower-grade material, i.e. those cheap, thin plastic bottles don’t get recycled back into plastic bottles, they get turned into stuff like rope, which can’t be subsequently recycled and ends up in the landfill. So yeah, using aluminium cans instead of plastic bottles *is* significantly greener. Given how misinformed you are on this point, it’s kind of difficult to take any of your other points seriously.
Speaking of, one of my favorite small town Cafes uses the inexpensive food truck brand styrofoam cups for the working guys who want a to-go drink with lunch. The cups have a little blurb on them about how the styrofoam cup puts something like 40% less trash in landfills compared to a similar size paper cup*. *By weight
Again. I’m not saying you are wrong. But you are clearly on a soapbox here and getting off topic. The plastic and paper conversations are two separate conversations/issues. By throwing them both out together, nothing gets done. It’s too complex. Stay on topic. One thing and one thing only.
Also before anyone replies with “no no no I know these specific plastic bags are worse because xyz” trust me this stuff is not settled science. Yes plastic is worse than paper but it is way more nuanced than you think. Also here is a clip from Lego’s webpage about sustainability, note how the inner plastic “bag” remains on the paper packaging: “ Since 2022 we are using paper-based packaging for our LEGO® baseplates, which used to be wrapped in single-use plastic. The packaging is made from paper with a thin plastic coating on the inside, which enables sealing of the packaging and helps protect the product.”
Gripe?
Initially I thought it was the sprues. Took a second look. Dings. Corner dings everywhere I guess.
Gates, not sprues. Sprues are discarded/reground along with runners, they're not part of the injection molded parts.
First I heard someone tell me about gates. Gates then.
Not sure what the quality assurance department of Lego is doing, but they lack quality with many bricks and colours nowadays. It really becomes an issue when other European and even Chinese alternative building block manufacturers have more consistent quality than the original inventor company. And we are at this point at the moment with more and more sets. Which is absurd with Legos prices. If they ever decrease so much in quality that they lose big licenses like star wars or harry potter to competitors, shit will really hit the fan for them. Although they are probably safe with the licenses as long as they hold the mini figure design copyright.
what would LEGO say if you wrote to them and asked for replacements for these pieces? If you could provide this sort of documentation, of course.
In two bags I found 8 damaged pieces. Little theory here: 40 bags lets say 4 damaged pieces per bag=is 160 damaged bricks. **option 1** - build it bag by bag and IF there is damaged pieces, order new ones. Then I have to wait few days to get them and build. Not a good option right? The build would be like 3+months project **option 2 -** build it all, document all pieces and order them after. Well, I dont know about you, but I wouldn't go back and replace damaged bricks with new ones. Too tedious
Document it all, as building, and get the replacement pieces for your own collection for other projects- and lego has on file replacing 160 pieces. Leave a review on the actual lego website for the set complaining about the quality, too. We either lose the free replacements the more people do this, or they fix the quality issues (negative reviews impacting sales and bulk of replacement pieces costing way more than the returns on the cut corners in production)
It doesn’t take too long for replacement pieces. Honestly I would say to put in for all the replacements, and even offer to send the damaged bricks back as substantial proof. Then when you get the replacements use that order and contact info to reach out to them personally about it as well. But this would only work in getting them to stop the crap if EVERYONE with bad pieces did it.
This never happened just a couple decades ago... I've noticed weird oil slick type effects on black parts, blurry/faint prints on minifigs, glaring and ugly mold marks, and parts that arrive damaged or become damaged with very little use. LEGO has really taken a nosedive on their quality lately.
This makes me wonder — why did I decide to go back to Lego just now. When I'm adult. When I see all the things Lego does nowadays, worse quality, overpriced sets for adults with stable income, desirable gifts with purchase. With the fanbase being in a state it is. When retired sets usually double in price on the aftermarket. Why now? Why do I still care?
We just want the sweet, brief taste of serotonin that Lego provides us for one fleeting moment until the harsh reality of adulthood kicks in again. :^)
Honestly, there's so much more to LEGO than official "adult" sets. Build that town you never could as a kid. Bricklink a really cool plane/train/car model. Grab a random Creator 3-in-1 set and see if you can make something you like better than the box art assembly. Or hell, go third-party if you really want to just build an adult set. It's disappointing that some things have slipped in quality, but there are other options out there that are still great.
I still own all the sets I've had as a kid, but I'm considering selling some of them (SpongeBob and Minecraft). My favorite thing about Lego is MOC building, but I've never bought any pieces from Bricklink. I mostly just use the ones I already have. I may consider finding some cool models on rebrickable.
I mostly enjoy LEGO for nostalgic reasons. My collection is almost entirely made of parts from the 90s, 2000s, and very early 2010s. I do a lot of mocs as well. Most of my purchases involve Bricklink orders for a specific creation rather than a set.
I'd really like a 90s space collection, but the prices are quite high, especially for an unopened box. I might try just piecing some of the sets. Despite growing out in the 2000s and early to middle 2010s, I don't feel particularly nostalgic towars sets or themes of that era. Like, I wouldn't collect an entire City wave, perhaps a few sets from Atlantis or Power Miners, maybe Indiana Jones. And even though I love Star Wars, absolutely not those sets
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I feel lucky to have got back into Lego 2010-ish. There were some really cool sets like 5984, super affordable, and more adult sets like 10193 and 10197. All of those were cheap enough that I'm happy to have the parts all sorted into my collection. Nowadays, every adult set is getting bigger and more expensive, and I feel like I can't afford to take them apart for MOCs - so I'm lucky to still have my existing piece library. I'd go so far as to say the golden era for Lego was 2009 to 2017, as that has all my sets plus The Emerald Night. It ends after The Lego Movie brought in all the adult fans, as the flagship set designs are beautiful but the sizes are getting absurd. Ain't no-one breaking down Rivendell for bricks in their collection.
My dark ages were somewhere between 2016 to 2023, so I missed out on a few really great sets, mostly Star Wars ones. Though when it comes to original Lego themes, they weren't plentiful those times and didn't interest me much. I don't like how nowadays Lego sets fall into one of two categories – either made for kids, I'm generally not interested in them, although I find some of them really neat toys and some even worth buying (I'm mostly talking about City, Friends and Dreamzzz here as I'm not interested in Ninjago these days). The second category is very expensive, huge sets for adults made mostly for display. There are only a few sets that fall into the middle, unfortunately almost exclusively in licensed themes like Star Wars or Speed Champions. Something that is a good display piece, has challenging builds but is also as cheap as a City set.
[10333-1: The Lord of the Rings: Barad-dûr](https://brickset.com/sets/10333-1) [[Photo]](https://images.brickset.com/sets/images/10333-1.jpg)
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[MOA003: Maui](http://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=moa003) [[Photo]](http://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/MN/0/moa003.png) What can I say except "you're welcome"?
This is completely unacceptable
The audacity to charge $500 and ship this
I don't want broken pieces from a 4 dollar polybag either.
Why is OP getting giga downvoted? Genuine question.
https://preview.redd.it/pgd9twa1h04d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58bc849c97f73dc407100cd5792097c4020cd539
Multibillion dollar company, not million. Their last financial results showed $9.59 billion in revenue and $2.49 billion in operating profit. (Those numbers might be a bit off because they release their figures in Danish krone. I just converted it at the current exchange even though their financials were released in March). https://www.lego.com/cdn/cs/aboutus/assets/blt7e9167f47da173a6/FINAL_Annual_Report_2023.pdf
Nah if they're gonna continue to tout themselves as a 'Premium' brand they need to be maintaining a premium product. At some point it became cheaper for them to just start throwing free replacement pieces at consumers to keep keep at bay and maintain their image, and for a long time it also basically worked free advertising for their excellent customer service, but IMO it's gotten out of hand.
LMAO It truly is so weird when people do this. Lego, target, Elon musk. like what are you defending? it's like trying to stop a tank from getting shot by blocking with your unarmored body.
Nah, it's the "paper bags are dumb" comment they had to add for some reason.
There are a lot of people complaining about the quality, so it gets tiresome to some. Then there's the constant "it's getting worse" without much tangible evidence, since pieces used to do all those things in the past too and nobody is really keeping track bar some anecdotical evidence. And then pictures of 4 corners out of... millions of pieces? We just don't know the context. So there's in the end very little point in complaining to the community: they should address those complaints to LEGO themselves. With time there'll be more evidence, like how some shades of red and brown from certain years are now known to be brittle with age, so maybe the current generation of plastic is softer too (and it could be some colors specifically too).
I really appreciate the explanation, thank you very much kind stranger!
You are most welcomed! You can see that the discussion has evolved as well. Now a lot of participants are claiming that it's obvious that they're cutting costs with cheaper plastics... To me it's a weird jump to assume that softer = cheaper, as they might have changed the formula for a number of reasons and softness of plastics can mean less cracking with age/time, which is a huge plus.
Lego out here reselling Temu products these days
I get a couple scratches here and there but this is really bad. Make Lego customer service do their job here, you deserve the product you paid for.
Considering the outrageous cost of legos I’d return these in a heartbeat
I just noticed this as well for the Artemis set. Bad corners.
lava melted them I guess
Funny how these things are more common after the price increases
It’s been getting worse past few years, I see the worst on light bluish grey
The quality of the LEGO bricks themselves have undoubtedly got worse over the past 10-15 years. From the infamous brittle bricks a few years back, to white bricks discolouring within just months, colours of bricks not matching, and scratches, dents and bends in what seems to be softer plastic than in the past. Older bricks from sets in the 90s and such, seem to be a much higher quality and are holding up a lot better.
"We could raise the prices with inflation" "Or we could cut down on the build quality and materials" "GUYS GUYS, YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT!"
I also observed chipped corners and other defects on bricks in new sets lately.
Over the past week or so, we've opened the Lotus Evija 76907 and some boxes of CMF series 25. The Lotus has several pieces with dented corners, and one of the CMF figures had dents at the bottom of the torso on both the front and the back. The quality simply isn't as good as it used to be.
It's one of the reasons why I'm slowly switching over to bandai/kotobukiya plastic models kits over lego.
Just buy other manufacturers of bricks. Tried two and the experience was great
Can you write or pm me examples?
I obviously cant speak for each and every brand, cuz im sure there will be differences. You can check out bluebrixx.com , they have a plethora of brands, themes and sets. Even if yoi dont buy there, its good inspiration
More expensive, less quality—what is this, an American toy company?
"We'll continue to jack up the price and you'll buy them day 1!"
Wow c'mon LEGO, you are better than this. Embarrassing quality.
Definitely recommend contacting customer service about these
I was thinking the same thing, when I got Jazz Club. https://preview.redd.it/nz78ggqdo34d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29ebdafc573b1247e73244b102bf5c5af3c9ccec
What the heck?! Why such missalignment is tolerated? I'd refunc that immediatelly.
Wow that's bad. "Only the best is good enough" just flew out the window over the past few years. Now it's "we're Lego. We own this market. Take what we give you"
First time buying Lego post covid, eh? I saw posts regarding lowered quality before then, but post covid it's been like minimum once a day. It happens so often now They're relying on creativity and fun now, not reliability. Between a solid customer service with free replacements and a growing adult fan base, they can literally afford to not give a shit.
Are these with the new cellulose bricks or what?
AFAIK the plant-based plastic is only used with the plant parts. A couple years back they started looking into recycled plastic and other greener alternatives but a few months ago they announced that ~~the project~~ [**one of the projects invoving making bricks from recycled bottles**](https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/09/25/legos-quest-to-make-recycled-plastic-bricks-has-failed-now-the-toymaker-is-turning-to-e-me) is abandoned due to quality issues. **EDIT**: clarification and source
I am all for greener stuff and so on, but, lego bricks aren't single-use product like plastic bottle or some silly knick-knack toy that you throw away after few weeks when your kid gets bored of it and that will polute the environment forever. I have some bricks from 90's and they are still fine. Lego has basically infinite lifespan, as long as you won't damage it physically by chewing or something. There is no need make it out of recycled plastic, if it will shorten the already infinite lifespan. This will only result in more trash overall.
I hadn't heard they abandoned the recycling plastics. That's interesting considering ABS is supposed to be the most recyclable plastic available, if I'm not mistaken?
Just located [a report](https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/09/25/legos-quest-to-make-recycled-plastic-bricks-has-failed-now-the-toymaker-is-turning-to-e-me). It seems that it was the PET bricks (from recycled bottles) project which failed, not the recycling of Lego elements (which are mostly made of ABS). Should have been more clear; will edit the comment above to include this.
Yeah I hate the quality of modern parts. I understand why some people find knock offs to be very close in quality. These are nothing like the 90s pieces I love
Lego doing Lego-things. Cobi etc have a lot better quality with a lot lower prices. Cant await when Lego finally loses its monopoly and have to do good and fair stuff again...
Only the best is good enough
https://preview.redd.it/y4bfb7fab14d1.jpeg?width=1932&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb32d480df65e36109ae0c175bd136a85a1914d5 One more from bag 2
https://preview.redd.it/q0xi3j0db14d1.jpeg?width=1932&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74218c92eb99b97a9e0ac798ccf5f1214e10861b Another one
"Good enough"
Funny that prices keep inflating but quality goes down the drain. Biggest reason I rarely if ever buy new sets
I have plenty of alt bricks that look a lot better than that.
Quality has definitely dipped. Never seemed to get damaged pieces out of the box in the 2000s when I was a kid.
Set 21340 that I just got done building also had a lot of corners like this. It was really disappointing. Quality getting lower and prices going up. Really disheartening way to slowly ruin a hobby
For Lego that is fucking atrocious. Sad to see yet another company enshittify.
Absolute crap considering the price of the sets.
The awful color matching on the A-Wing was enough to slow my spending dramatically and it has not improved
Thank you for this! I posted a while back that I felt that Lego quality had dropped off. I noticed it building the Dune Ornithopter (first lego set I had bought/built in over 40 years). I got downvoted to near oblivion.
Which is frustrating when you feel you are raising a valid concern. I understand downvotes if a post/comment seems hostile but it also makes you reconsider posting anything. Keep on building!
Lool I have counterfeit sets better than this!
Lego is getting really bad these days, and the worst thing is that their fans are letting that happen
That's why they're called LEGO-fanboys
Who you calling midly?
Omg I just ordered mine, I hope it's not like this 😭 what have I done
Horrible. At this point other brands have better quality for half the price
Maybe the knockoffs are worth a second look after all...
These corner dings are not new. I own various elements that were never released and even those exhibit minor corner damage. Unfortunately, this is something that’s unlikely to be fixed.
Over 50 and building since age 4.. I have never ever ever seen a corner like that on any new Lego set. That's just my experience.
I have an entire cupboard full of Lego, not a corner ding in sight.
Did you find out those on the side of the road?
This is something I seriously can't wrap my head around. In the past LEGO used to have such a premium quality compared to third party manufacturers. Now better third party manufacturers catch up and LEGO is reducing the quality more and more. With all the hefty price increases, I really do not understand how it is possible that LEGO isn't able to keep its quality standards.
It's the way the cookie crumbles lower quality and up the prices...
I opens a ucs at at right out of the cardboard shipping box and half of the bags were ripped open by pieces, quality control is definitely lacking at Lego. Also you need to pay 15 cents for a paper bag now at stores and that’s stupid
Dont remember where but i heard or read that quality control gone downhill due to Lego's ramped up production and their obsession with over design. Which I agree. Their instructions quality gone downhill too due to color issues.
Man, these look way worse than the bricks from a Panlos set I got. What happened to Lego?
And they couldn't be more expensive. I've had to refuse buying the NASA launch pad set because it costs waaay too much. My wife has the original Disney castle set. Got when it first came out. Before they switched it to the new set, that same set had more than doubled in price in their store. It's ridiculous.
Yeah I agree and that’s why I’ve stopped collecting LEGO sets since 2018 when they introduced plant based plastic on the Vesta Wind Turbine set. Nowadays I just watch people building on YouTube and save my money.
Wow, those look like crap! What happened? I would contact Lego asap
Ordinarily I would say a ding or two on a few bricks is just bad luck especially on a set with thousands of pieces but these defects are more indicative of some deficiency in the manufacturing process, not random anomalies but indication of injection issues
That's pack that shit up and ask for a full refund territory.
Yup, they’re letting more and more slide. I had to get two minifig torsos replaced over the past year. No companies perfect, but their QC is sliding from what they claim or people expect it seems. Least they’re great at replacing.
I say we fight back by filing missing piece reports for every scratched glass panel, large injection points, discoloration, or and actually missing pieces to show LEGO that we don't accept the price of inflation
Damn, lego quality is getting even worse. It started with the color inconsistencies, then the mold marks being very visible, and then more and more pieces were warped because they take them out the mold too quickly. I get that they want to produce more bricks in less time, but when it affects the quality of the product, it should not be done. And this is a new problem. How does this even happen? Do they throw the bricks in the bags now? Quality control is just gone I guess. When I get my Barad-dûr set and see this, I might inform lego customer support and ask if they can replace it with the bricks they show on the package, because we pay a premium price for a premium product, not this third party looking stuff
That is infuriating, Lego QC, get a grip!