What blows me away (heh heh) is that they made sawed off shotguns illegal because shotguns are really brutal and they didn't like the idea of them being so easily concealed. Reactive to lots of specific gang violence incidents. But like... there's several revolvers you can still put shotguns shells in. So this law ain't doin shit.
The NFA was to originally restrict handguns too. We just managed to claw back that little piece last minute which left us with the illogical travesty we have today.
I wish I'd saved the study I read forever ago. But they basically tested no speed limits and found that, if anything, people drove slower on average and the only people speeding were the same people that would normally ignore the speed limit anyway.
But their real purpose is serving as a ghost tax via state sanctioned highwaymen. So they're not going anywhere.
Where I live I am pretty sure that's all the cops do most of the time. Easy to do. Takes no critical thinking. If your car gets stolen though, might take them a few days to come and see you.
My car was broken into in Dallas, so I called the non-emergency line. They just told me to call 911, so I did, and was put on hold for 45 minutes. My faith in city police was never high, but I *am* a gun owner now.
I am in Canada. There was a guy in Toronto who had his f150 stolen. He tracked it with an airtag. The cops didn't care. He went and took it back himself. They told him not to do that. Useless bastards.
Emperor Palpoutine already said outright that if you are being robbed, can't escape, and the robber intends to kill you, rather than defend yourself with a weapon, "it is your duty as a good citizen *to die*" Canada has surrendered to crime.
What's interesting is over the last several years self defense cases have been coming back as not guilty. Once case law gets established it might really change things. Especially when the largest police force said to leave your car keys by the door to avoid violent criminals. Acknowledging they are violent makes self defense a whole lot easier to prove.
Also, firearm ownership is growing. People I never thought would want guns have been asking me over the past few years how to go through the licensing process. They said it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
I have a wife and daughter. I am not letting someone ransack my house.
That's interesting, going to bet that some places would install more stop signs if you got rid of speed limits though. But it would be nice on the highway. But yeah, most us are very interested in avoiding the smashed up car 'tax' either way.
I'm not aware of other studies on the matter. All I am aware of is what I read, that there is a blind and largely unchallenged consensus belief the speed limits are a good thing, and that the areas of Nevada and other states that don't have speed limits haven't resulted in carnage or anarchy.
I always thought most traffic laws could be summarized into reckless endangerment. If the cops fine someone thye'd have to argue the case in court anyways so the cops might as well have to give a justification every time.
The irony is a huge percentage of these no cruising laws go up due to high school teens cruising in their cars. That's actually the first one I've heard put in for any other reason besides teens. Going to take a wild guess that locals just don't like their roads clogged up at night with loud people who just drive around in circles for fun and that your gayness is not the main issue there.
I wonder if it would work if cities just put in an official cruising area in some underused part of town and any businesses would be informed this is a cruising area so if you wanna set up shop here, you gotta deal with it. I bet drive throughs and Starbucks would be interested. However with younger kids now not so interested in even driving, maybe that culture is dying out anyway and that might be the real reason why the change the rules in OP's post too and they were just trying to milk some virtue signaling out of it.
Forcing the selector switch on my AR to conform to the regulatory binary is anti-trans, they identify as select fire and my gunsmith should be able to give them affirmative treatment.
There were people fucking on every corner, out in public, behind bushes, in stairwells, etc. Leaving fluids and dirty condoms everywhere too.
So, NOT any kind of LGBT issue at all. Simply against anyone being massively disrespectful, exposing everyone in the neighborhood to their sex acts, and being a public health threat.
Unless the people removing these signs claim that should be allowed for members of the LGBT community, which would be a very bad message.
If we can use gay people to remove rules we donāt like, Iād like to remind everyone that income taxes were originally used to profile gay guys and prevent them from having enough money to be *fabulous*
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought the "No Cruising" and "No U-turn" signs were an attempt to target / prevent low-riders from taking over streets back when they were more popular.
It's less about it being "cops hate gays" and more residents getting tired of people fucking in front of their houses.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-aug-27-ls-26163-story.html
Well that explains everything. The neighborhood is just sick of people having sex behind every bush, on every corner. Also leaving their disgusting condoms and fluids for residents to deal with.
This is about degenerate scum not respecting anyone that lives there, not anything about gay people. People, gay or straight, can get a damn hotel room.
There was also a problem with kids cruising in loud cars. Also not any kind of gay issue.
Do they not understand how hard they make it for people to not criticize them. Nobody has a problem with you living whatever life you want but when you go do stupid shit like this how do you think people are going to react?
100% correct. They donāt understand that by doing the crazier shit and nothing ever being good enough that at best, theyāre taking people who would otherwise support their causes and making them apathetic. At worst, theyāre making those same people adversaries. Victimhood has become their entire personality, and a lot of people just canāt be on that insanity train. Itās somewhere between counterproductive and murderous to their own causes.
Why is it that the minority of the population (Apx 7%) get to dictate the world around us all?
As a true libertarian I want all these people to live whatever way they want. But why do they insist on controlling us so much? You donāt get the control the language, the titles, the pronouns, the bathrooms, the signs and the feelings.
It like the Uber religious telling us to live life under their god and their rules
Okay, so Iām trying really hard to give this a good faith analysis but Iām struggling. Anyone able to explain what not being able to make a U turn has to do with queer people?
Basically the residents complained because they were finding people randomly having sex in public places. The cops then started to stop people in that area and put u-turn signs which were originally meant to prevent car meetups and things like that in order to curb the sex meetups in this area. This original article from 1997 is more nuanced than the recent ones which make it out to sound like the cops just wanted to harass gay people for the hell of it.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-aug-27-ls-26163-story.html
THATāS what I was looking for. Thank you! Such a good case study on why getting the cops involved often just makes things so much worse, though. Like yeah, sex in public is bad. So is accosting random people and entrapment. What a shit show.
What can I make about MYSELF today? hmm.... how about some random traffic sign!
(the reason looks quite far fetched to me, but I am happy to change my mind if someone can provide a valid source)
Quick someone make a movement that taxes are anti lgbtqp. Whoever they propped up to represent the libertarian party should do it seeing as itās his kink anyways, do some good
I'm trying to figure out if this is a joke. How just don't see a correlation between a traffic safety sign and the lgbtq community.
So, if a person in the lgbtq community makes a uturn but gets into a car accident, was it the uturn signs fault or the lgbtq community?
Duh, the gays, they're gonna spread jizz and leaky ass juice over the cracks.
Wait, if the crack is black, is that then racist jizz?
I need clarification on the clown rules.
For context theses streets where used as gay hook up spots where where they would just drive around in a loop until they found someone.
So these signs where put up to spasticity stop that.
So ya there right on this.
If you are a true Libertarian you would recognize that the LGBTQIA+ community just found a life hack to get the government to eliminate a pointless law. I say we join forces and start being offended by all unjust laws.
I honestly believe Iām on a reboot of Punkād. But instead of Ashton Kutcher fooling a celebrity, the government and media are Punking all of us by making this distraction so they can fund a never ending string of illegal, unconstitutional wars. All the while getting themselves overcommitted so we will eventually have to send our sons and daughters overseas to die in those illegal wars. Like Vietnam, Korea, or the first and second Iraq war and Afghanistan wars. Charlie Wilsonās war is a great movie by the way!
I donāt even know why we still have California as a state. I can see why, but itās dumb as hell and as the article noted, āperformative.ā
https://nbcmontana.com/amp/news/nation-world/la-takes-down-no-u-turn-signs-over-homophobia-los-angeles-city-councilmember-hugo-soto-martnez-silver-lake-neighborhood-councilwoman-maebe-a-girl-black-cat-protests-los-angeles
I get it I do, but I live here, I was born here and I feel like I am obligated to remain and try to fix this mess than take the easy way and just move away despite how much I want to. Californiaās gov is already involved in way more of my life than it needs to be and that with federal regulations, please doing give them free reign š
That is not what that means. It is a reference to young adults and adolescents just starting to realize they are guy and figure out what that means. Itās as related to babies as calling your girlfriend Baby is.
The idea that I can't cut down the barrel on my gun is anti-trans
The idea I can't pair a stock together with a 10.5 inch AR upper is anti-LGBTQIA+
Lets Get Back The Quality in Arms +
This is the way
My rifle identifies as a pistol!
*This is my rifle, this is my gun,* *This is non-binary, so it can be anything or nothing depending on how it's feeling at any given time.*
The only thing binary on my firearms is the trigger.
I mean if the atf is just going to call everything a mg then you might as well just get the thing
What blows me away (heh heh) is that they made sawed off shotguns illegal because shotguns are really brutal and they didn't like the idea of them being so easily concealed. Reactive to lots of specific gang violence incidents. But like... there's several revolvers you can still put shotguns shells in. So this law ain't doin shit.
Yes but they only hold little adorable shotshells not big scary ones
Taurus Judge struts in like, "Hold my be- actually, keep both hands on the gun, you're gonna need it"
How is that gun to shoot? I want to give it a try someday.
The NFA was to originally restrict handguns too. We just managed to claw back that little piece last minute which left us with the illogical travesty we have today.
That actually makes more sense than the u turn sign
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Hey, you know what else is transphobic? Gun laws.
Income Tax and property tax are pretty transphobic too
Imagine. STEALING from trans people! š±
I can
I didn't know. They seem pretty gay to me.
I mean, I'm all for less traffic rules. Speed limits are racist, can we get rid of those next?
I could see this working out. I'm also very concerned about the vulnerable groups disproportionately impacted by speeding tickets... let's scrap them!
You know who follows speeding laws? People who canāt afford a ticket. Itās time we get rid of discriminatory speed limits.
I wish I'd saved the study I read forever ago. But they basically tested no speed limits and found that, if anything, people drove slower on average and the only people speeding were the same people that would normally ignore the speed limit anyway. But their real purpose is serving as a ghost tax via state sanctioned highwaymen. So they're not going anywhere.
Where I live I am pretty sure that's all the cops do most of the time. Easy to do. Takes no critical thinking. If your car gets stolen though, might take them a few days to come and see you.
My car was broken into in Dallas, so I called the non-emergency line. They just told me to call 911, so I did, and was put on hold for 45 minutes. My faith in city police was never high, but I *am* a gun owner now.
I am in Canada. There was a guy in Toronto who had his f150 stolen. He tracked it with an airtag. The cops didn't care. He went and took it back himself. They told him not to do that. Useless bastards.
Emperor Palpoutine already said outright that if you are being robbed, can't escape, and the robber intends to kill you, rather than defend yourself with a weapon, "it is your duty as a good citizen *to die*" Canada has surrendered to crime.
What's interesting is over the last several years self defense cases have been coming back as not guilty. Once case law gets established it might really change things. Especially when the largest police force said to leave your car keys by the door to avoid violent criminals. Acknowledging they are violent makes self defense a whole lot easier to prove. Also, firearm ownership is growing. People I never thought would want guns have been asking me over the past few years how to go through the licensing process. They said it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I have a wife and daughter. I am not letting someone ransack my house.
That's interesting, going to bet that some places would install more stop signs if you got rid of speed limits though. But it would be nice on the highway. But yeah, most us are very interested in avoiding the smashed up car 'tax' either way.
Revenuers, plain and simple.
Saying āHey guys I found one study that supports my opinionā while ignoring all the ones that donāt is wild lmao
I'm not aware of other studies on the matter. All I am aware of is what I read, that there is a blind and largely unchallenged consensus belief the speed limits are a good thing, and that the areas of Nevada and other states that don't have speed limits haven't resulted in carnage or anarchy.
I always thought most traffic laws could be summarized into reckless endangerment. If the cops fine someone thye'd have to argue the case in court anyways so the cops might as well have to give a justification every time.
Exactly. Speeding safely hurts no one. Speeding recklessly does.
You really gonna trust these bozos on the road to *speed* safely?
would never happen. They make too much money off writing tickets
Seatbelts are sexist
Why have traffic rules at all? They're definitely anti-lgbt, I regularly see lgbt members breaking them.
Taxes are anti trans they must be repealed
https://preview.redd.it/84kew4gkjl6d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90f8be83c84b680fe8a7492aa35027f38da1946f
They want to be the victims so badly.
The irony is a huge percentage of these no cruising laws go up due to high school teens cruising in their cars. That's actually the first one I've heard put in for any other reason besides teens. Going to take a wild guess that locals just don't like their roads clogged up at night with loud people who just drive around in circles for fun and that your gayness is not the main issue there. I wonder if it would work if cities just put in an official cruising area in some underused part of town and any businesses would be informed this is a cruising area so if you wanna set up shop here, you gotta deal with it. I bet drive throughs and Starbucks would be interested. However with younger kids now not so interested in even driving, maybe that culture is dying out anyway and that might be the real reason why the change the rules in OP's post too and they were just trying to milk some virtue signaling out of it.
"Maebe A. Girl"
Enya Dreem
Gotsee A Cox
I've heard taxes are anti lgbt too!
And here I thought maga was a cult
It is. But. So is this.
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Forcing the selector switch on my AR to conform to the regulatory binary is anti-trans, they identify as select fire and my gunsmith should be able to give them affirmative treatment.
Make sure to set it as safe, 3-burst, or full. No single shot binary nonsense. Gott be inclusive
Maebe A. Girl is someone's name.
Call me Douche Canoe for short.
How the fuck is a street sign anti trans.
How is applying your scooterās brakes in a crosswalk a hate crime?
There were people fucking on every corner, out in public, behind bushes, in stairwells, etc. Leaving fluids and dirty condoms everywhere too. So, NOT any kind of LGBT issue at all. Simply against anyone being massively disrespectful, exposing everyone in the neighborhood to their sex acts, and being a public health threat. Unless the people removing these signs claim that should be allowed for members of the LGBT community, which would be a very bad message.
It's obvious these signs aren't transphobic but how do they justify this?
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
If we can use gay people to remove rules we donāt like, Iād like to remind everyone that income taxes were originally used to profile gay guys and prevent them from having enough money to be *fabulous*
r/nottheonion
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought the "No Cruising" and "No U-turn" signs were an attempt to target / prevent low-riders from taking over streets back when they were more popular.
They're rewriting history because they feel left out.
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It's less about it being "cops hate gays" and more residents getting tired of people fucking in front of their houses. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-aug-27-ls-26163-story.html
Well that explains everything. The neighborhood is just sick of people having sex behind every bush, on every corner. Also leaving their disgusting condoms and fluids for residents to deal with. This is about degenerate scum not respecting anyone that lives there, not anything about gay people. People, gay or straight, can get a damn hotel room. There was also a problem with kids cruising in loud cars. Also not any kind of gay issue.
people mentally ill
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This is a mockery of lgbtq people who actually have problems in their lives
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I guess weāre out of real problems so now weāre doing this?
California is doomed. It's a complete clown show.
Dumb fucks like this are why I canāt be honest with people
Next, they will start removing "Open Trench" signs because they offend your mom.
Do they not understand how hard they make it for people to not criticize them. Nobody has a problem with you living whatever life you want but when you go do stupid shit like this how do you think people are going to react?
100% correct. They donāt understand that by doing the crazier shit and nothing ever being good enough that at best, theyāre taking people who would otherwise support their causes and making them apathetic. At worst, theyāre making those same people adversaries. Victimhood has become their entire personality, and a lot of people just canāt be on that insanity train. Itās somewhere between counterproductive and murderous to their own causes.
Why is it that the minority of the population (Apx 7%) get to dictate the world around us all? As a true libertarian I want all these people to live whatever way they want. But why do they insist on controlling us so much? You donāt get the control the language, the titles, the pronouns, the bathrooms, the signs and the feelings. It like the Uber religious telling us to live life under their god and their rules
Are you complaining about relaxed government control simply because people you don't like are behind it?
Educate yourself on what anarco tyranny is and get back to us for a discussion on why selective enforcement and governance is bad.
*Pssst: half the people here are just rightists in disguise and donāt care about government being in charge of things as long as itās run by them*
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The idea I can't u-turn is anti something
Common Californian L
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I donāt want to share the country with these guys people
This is why I don't live in California and will never even consider it.
Next up: "We are removing all STOP signs because those signs are telling us to stop being the way we are."
My new safe word is "Deeper Daddy". These STOP Signs are infringing upon my kinks. Take down kink shaming stop signs.
I'm approaching this from waaaaay down in the comments
The epidemic of my feelings are hurt over dumb shit mental health crisis is exploding, Iām in the twilight zone
It really is a circus.
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Lol now thereās going to be people pulling out into oncoming traffic and getting t-bonedā¦.for equality
Jesus, please come flood the Earth Again, take the Rainbow back...... Thanks.
Okay, so Iām trying really hard to give this a good faith analysis but Iām struggling. Anyone able to explain what not being able to make a U turn has to do with queer people?
Basically the residents complained because they were finding people randomly having sex in public places. The cops then started to stop people in that area and put u-turn signs which were originally meant to prevent car meetups and things like that in order to curb the sex meetups in this area. This original article from 1997 is more nuanced than the recent ones which make it out to sound like the cops just wanted to harass gay people for the hell of it. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-aug-27-ls-26163-story.html
THATāS what I was looking for. Thank you! Such a good case study on why getting the cops involved often just makes things so much worse, though. Like yeah, sex in public is bad. So is accosting random people and entrapment. What a shit show.
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What can I make about MYSELF today? hmm.... how about some random traffic sign! (the reason looks quite far fetched to me, but I am happy to change my mind if someone can provide a valid source)
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Quick someone make a movement that taxes are anti lgbtqp. Whoever they propped up to represent the libertarian party should do it seeing as itās his kink anyways, do some good
Hey, I think I can feel the founding fathers rolling in their graves!
I'm trying to figure out if this is a joke. How just don't see a correlation between a traffic safety sign and the lgbtq community. So, if a person in the lgbtq community makes a uturn but gets into a car accident, was it the uturn signs fault or the lgbtq community?
But who will maintain the roads
Duh, the gays, they're gonna spread jizz and leaky ass juice over the cracks. Wait, if the crack is black, is that then racist jizz? I need clarification on the clown rules.
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New shirt incoming.
Yaaaa, fuck traffic safety letās cater to the alphabet mafia once again.
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California is falling to new lows.
Well I learned traffic signs can be offensive today.
For context theses streets where used as gay hook up spots where where they would just drive around in a loop until they found someone. So these signs where put up to spasticity stop that. So ya there right on this.
Does that mean we can bang u-eys all over LA now?
If you are a true Libertarian you would recognize that the LGBTQIA+ community just found a life hack to get the government to eliminate a pointless law. I say we join forces and start being offended by all unjust laws.
This has to be a comedy skit. I mean dudes name is Maebe A. Girl that sounds like the name of a character in a parody skit this can't be real life
Damn this really went over a lot of peoples heads didnāt it?
Clownworld.
What in the f***. Can you be offended by anything f****** else? š
Iām anti-whatever this bullshit is.
The LGBQ community just wants us to drive straight? Yes? No? Iām confused.
Reality has felt like one huge South Park episode for the past few years.
This is regarded, but on the plus side; less traffic signs also means less traffic rules, ergo less government. So I consider that a win.
Homophobia and Transphobia solved! We can all rest at ease now.
I honestly believe Iām on a reboot of Punkād. But instead of Ashton Kutcher fooling a celebrity, the government and media are Punking all of us by making this distraction so they can fund a never ending string of illegal, unconstitutional wars. All the while getting themselves overcommitted so we will eventually have to send our sons and daughters overseas to die in those illegal wars. Like Vietnam, Korea, or the first and second Iraq war and Afghanistan wars. Charlie Wilsonās war is a great movie by the way!
I really hope they try another CHAZ commune thing, that would be so funny.
They are obviously idiots, but now I can make U-Turns, so....
What's so wrong with being anti-LGBTQ?
Maebe A. Girl? Whatās the middle name?
Actuallya. Maebe Actuallya Girl.
It's just A, like how Harry S. Truman's Middle name was just S
This is a joke right?ā¦.right ?
I donāt even know why we still have California as a state. I can see why, but itās dumb as hell and as the article noted, āperformative.ā https://nbcmontana.com/amp/news/nation-world/la-takes-down-no-u-turn-signs-over-homophobia-los-angeles-city-councilmember-hugo-soto-martnez-silver-lake-neighborhood-councilwoman-maebe-a-girl-black-cat-protests-los-angeles
5th largest gdp among other nations
I feel like if they are that powerful, we should just give them their own government. It's fine really, I want them to eat themselves alive.
I get it I do, but I live here, I was born here and I feel like I am obligated to remain and try to fix this mess than take the easy way and just move away despite how much I want to. Californiaās gov is already involved in way more of my life than it needs to be and that with federal regulations, please doing give them free reign š
Got me there
I'm more concerned about the "baby.gay" sign behind him towards the end. Yes I looked it up and yes it's a real website selling "baby gay" merchandise
That is not what that means. It is a reference to young adults and adolescents just starting to realize they are guy and figure out what that means. Itās as related to babies as calling your girlfriend Baby is.
Those signs were definitely put up to prevent a action that the government deemed inappropriate. Whether it be gay or straight, fuck those signs
What the fuck
Lmao thereās no way, also I legit canāt follow the logic there. What does no Uturn have anything to do with lgbtq?
Please tell me this is satire. If not, wake me from this nightmare
LA continues its march towards dystopia.
Oh for God sakes! BS!
I just can't get how someone can be gae and so butt ugly
Pls do taxes next
Wtf
This aināt the Babylon Bee š
Clown world
that dude in the purple pants is sexy
Without government who wouldā¦ checks notesā¦ remove crucial U Turn signs that prevent accidents.